Re: [Orgmode] Debian Mono / Tomboy

2009-06-28 Thread Manish
  On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Russell Adams wrote:
  > Slightly offtopic, but I was reading /. where they are arguing over
  > the inclusion of Mono in Debian in order to support the Tomboy app.
  >
  > I won't get into the whole Mono debate, but I was curious why the
  > angst over one application? Whats it do?
  >
  > Its a note taking app for Gnome written in Mono! In fact, it sounds
  > like they are trying for some similar Org functionality, but with a
  > GUI frontend.
  >
  >
  > I think it ironic they are arguing over including this in Debian, when
  > they already have Emacs and Org out of the box. ;]

The feeling of angst is caused by making Tomboy _required_ for Gnome and
what it, in turn, requires to run - Mono.  It's certainly not a
_required_ application and even more so when alternatives exist.  But
you knew that already.

http://www.itwire.com/content/view/25215/1090/1/1/
http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2009/06/12/the-ubuntumono-debate-continues/

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Re: [Orgmode] name of face for dates in org agenda?

2009-06-28 Thread Manish
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Brian van den Broek wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've changed my overall emacs colour scheme and, as a result, the dates in
> the weekly agenda view are a bit hard to read (dark blue on black). I've
> looked through the interface that M-x org-customize brings up, but I don't
> seem able to find the governing face variable name. Little help?

This is what I have in my .emacs.

 '(org-agenda-date ((t (:inherit font-lock-type-face))) t)
 '(org-agenda-date-weekend ((t (:inherit org-agenda-date))) t)
 '(org-date ((t (:inherit font-lock-constant-face

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Re: [Orgmode] Debian Mono / Tomboy

2009-06-28 Thread Ian Barton

Russell Adams wrote:

Slightly offtopic, but I was reading /. where they are arguing over
the inclusion of Mono in Debian in order to support the Tomboy app.

I won't get into the whole Mono debate, but I was curious why the
angst over one application? Whats it do?

Its a note taking app for Gnome written in Mono! In fact, it sounds
like they are trying for some similar Org functionality, but with a
GUI frontend.

they already have Emacs and Org out of the box. ;]

Mono is a "clone" of Microsoft's Dot Net framework. It's good in that 
makes it possible for Windows C# programmers to develop Linux apps. 
However, the concern is that at some point, MS will decide to start a 
patent war over Mono. If Mono becomes "required" for the Gnome desktop, 
rather than just providing nice add on programs, Gnome would be sunk.


The anti Mono faction want it to be treated like restricted codecs, 
available for download if users choose, but not there by default.


Ian.


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Re: [Orgmode] Debian Mono / Tomboy

2009-06-28 Thread Ian Barton

I won't get into the whole Mono debate, but I was curious why the
angst over one application? Whats it do?


Forgot to mention that it's well worth listening to a few episodes of 
the Software Freedom Law Show podcast at 
http://www.softwarefreedom.org/podcast/


Karen and Bradley achieve the impossible by making software licensing 
and copyright issues sound interesting. In true geek spirit the shows 
are numbered in hex, starting with podcast number zero.


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Re: [Orgmode] Debian Mono / Tomboy

2009-06-28 Thread Russell Adams
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 09:05:27AM +0100, Ian Barton wrote:
>
> Mono is a "clone" of Microsoft's Dot Net framework. It's good in that  
> makes it possible for Windows C# programmers to develop Linux apps.  
> However, the concern is that at some point, MS will decide to start a  
> patent war over Mono. If Mono becomes "required" for the Gnome desktop,  
> rather than just providing nice add on programs, Gnome would be sunk.
>
> The anti Mono faction want it to be treated like restricted codecs,  
> available for download if users choose, but not there by default.

I can appreciate that, just look at the delayed enforcement that
happened with MP3. They waited until it became a "standard" and then
demanded payment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP3#Licensing_and_patent_issues
http://www.chillingeffects.org/patent/notice.cgi?NoticeID=464

Why would we want a Microsoft specific technology used in a core OSS
product? I know Mono devs try to avoid the "us vs them" mentality, but
it comes down to a trust issue.

I won't harp on it, I just thought it was interesting that an
organizer was at the center of the debate. They should just use Org
and be happy!

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[Orgmode] Latex & EPS Inline

2009-06-28 Thread Russell Adams
Just found out that in order to use EPS images produced via dot and
org-exp-blocks, "eps" must be added as a valid inline extension.

~/.emacs:
;; Allow inline eps, used with dot
(push '"eps" org-export-latex-inline-image-extensions)

Whether it is worth patching org-export-latex.el I leave to Carsten!

(FYI, I'm finally learning lisp!)

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Re: [Orgmode] Latex & EPS Inline

2009-06-28 Thread Carsten Dominik

OK, I have added both ps and eps.

- Carsten

On Jun 28, 2009, at 10:20 AM, Russell Adams wrote:


Just found out that in order to use EPS images produced via dot and
org-exp-blocks, "eps" must be added as a valid inline extension.

~/.emacs:
;; Allow inline eps, used with dot
(push '"eps" org-export-latex-inline-image-extensions)

Whether it is worth patching org-export-latex.el I leave to Carsten!

(FYI, I'm finally learning lisp!)

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Re: [Orgmode] org-agenda-todo-list-sublevels and tags-todo

2009-06-28 Thread Patrick Bahr
Hello Carsten,

Carsten Dominik schrieb:
> 
> Right, I made a mistake there, fixed now.

great, it works now. Thanks for your help!

> And you need to set a different variable, as I said in my earlier mail
> 
> org-tags-match-list-sublevels

I missed that. Thanks again.

Cheers,
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[Orgmode] Re: name of face for dates in org agenda?

2009-06-28 Thread Matthew Lundin
Brian van den Broek  writes:

> I've changed my overall emacs colour scheme and, as a result, the
> dates in the weekly agenda view are a bit hard to read (dark blue on
> black). I've looked through the interface that M-x org-customize
> brings up, but I don't seem able to find the governing face variable
> name. Little help?

On a general note (I'll add an FAQ about this), here are two tips for
finding the names of faces in org-mode (or any other emacs mode):

1) While on the relevant text, simply type M-x customize-face and you
   will be given the option of customizing all faces at the point.

2) Type M-x list-faces-display and browse through the org-mode faces.

Best,

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Re: [Orgmode] Problem with org-info.js?

2009-06-28 Thread Xin Shi
Hi Sebastian,

I can see the version now:  org-info.js, v. 0.1.1.8 :)

Thanks!

Xin


On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote:

> Xin Shi  writes:
> > Hi Sebastian,
> >
> > Thanks for the explanation! I guess one reason for me to spot that is I
> use
> > org to publish all my working notes into HTML and use it on our group
> > meetings all the time :)
> >
> > By the way, for the org-info-src.js and org-info.js, is the "white
> spaces"
> > only difference between them? We can probly keep the version number in
> the
> > org-info.js, so that people are easier to follow.
>
> No. The yuicompressor (http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/compressor/) has
> no option to keep comments intact - at least I couldn't fine one.
>
> But from now on (since the one I pushed 20 seconds ago), the version
> number is always visible below the table of shortcuts (`?' or click the
> `HELP' link).
>
>
>   Sebastian
>
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: name of face for dates in org agenda?

2009-06-28 Thread Nick Dokos
Matthew Lundin  wrote:

> Brian van den Broek  writes:
> 
> > I've changed my overall emacs colour scheme and, as a result, the
> > dates in the weekly agenda view are a bit hard to read (dark blue on
> > black). I've looked through the interface that M-x org-customize
> > brings up, but I don't seem able to find the governing face variable
> > name. Little help?
> 
> On a general note (I'll add an FAQ about this), here are two tips for
> finding the names of faces in org-mode (or any other emacs mode):
> 
> 1) While on the relevant text, simply type M-x customize-face and you
>will be given the option of customizing all faces at the point.
> 
> 2) Type M-x list-faces-display and browse through the org-mode faces.
> 

In addition to Matthew's points, the following might be useful:

3) While on the relevant text, `C-u C-x =' (what-cursor-position with a
   prefix argument) shows (extra) information about the text under the
   cursor, including the face:

,
| character: 0 (48, #o60, #x30)
| preferred charset: ascii (ASCII (ISO646 IRV))
|code point: 0x30
|syntax: w  which means: word
|  category: .:Base, a:ASCII, l:Latin, r:Roman
|   buffer code: #x30
| file code: #x30 (encoded by coding system utf-8-unix)
|   display: by this font (glyph code)
| x:-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-140-75-75-c-90-iso8859-1 (#x30)
| 
| Character code properties: customize what to show
|   name: DIGIT ZERO
|   general-category: Nd (Number, Decimal Digit)
| 
| There are text properties here:
|   face org-date
|   fontifiedt
|   keymap   [Show]
|   mouse-face   highlight
|   org-category [Show]
|   org-no-flyspell  t
`

4) While on the relevant text, M-x describe-face (also available from
   the menu Help/Describe/Describe face...) gives you information about
   the face and also allows you to customize it:

,
| Face: org-date (sample) (customize this face)
| Documentation: Face for links.
| Defined in `org-faces.el'.
| 
| Family: unspecified
|Foundry: unspecified
|  Width: unspecified
| Height: unspecified
| Weight: unspecified
|  Slant: unspecified
| Foreground: Cyan
| Background: unspecified
|  Underline: t
|   Overline: unspecified
| Strike-through: unspecified
|Box: unspecified
|Inverse: unspecified
|Stipple: unspecified
|   Font: unspecified
|Fontset: unspecified
|Inherit: unspecified
`


BTW, I noticed that the face documentation for org-date is wrong - probably
a cut-n-paste error.

Thanks,
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: name of face for dates in org agenda?

2009-06-28 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Jun 28, 2009, at 8:00 PM, Nick Dokos wrote:
BTW, I noticed that the face documentation for org-date is wrong -  
probably

a cut-n-paste error.


Thanks.

Fixed.

- Carsten



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[Orgmode] LaTeX export bugs?

2009-06-28 Thread Sébastien Vauban
Hello,

To make things clear, I love Org-mode (yes, I voted) and its LaTeX export.
More than you can imagine: I now look for avoiding writing any LaTeX document,
and have the export do all the work for me...

BTW, any solution for exporting to a Beamer presentation?  I'd be very very
very interested by anything in that direction. That's the last piece of the
whole puzzle, IMHO.

Though, working more and more in that direction (Org-mode -> LaTeX), I've seen
a couple of weird things that I've compiled into an ECM, for ease of use:

--8<---cut here---start->8---
* Org

  - If you have a level 3 item under a level 1 item, the level 3 doesn't get
exported to LaTeX. I know this is not a normal situation, but it happens
when restructuring some text, and you loose it in the exported view...

* THIS SECTION WILL DISAPPEAR!!

  This text is not exported. Though, I'm not always aware of it, when
  sections are long (spreading over more than one screen page)...

*** Level 2 -- is there a level 3 above?

- Table with formulas and environment /framed/ :

  The following table will be framed, but TBL formulas do not work
  anymore.

#+ATTR_LaTeX: align=lrrr
#+LaTeX: \begin{framed}
| Code  | \euro{} |  \% | \euro{} |
|---+-+-+-|
| GSM   | | |0.00 |
| Internet  |  168.45 | 100 |  168.45 |
| Matériel  |  295.99 | 100 |  295.99 |
| Publicité |  214.25 |  33 |   70.70 |
| Autres| | |0.00 |
|---+-+-+-|
| Total | | |  535.14 |
#+LaTeX: \end{framed}
#+TBLFM: $4=$2*$3/100;%.2f::@7$4=vsum(@-...@-ii)

  Swapping these two last lines gives LaTeX errors... What's the solution
  for having both: an environment around the table and formulas that work?

  Why do I have to escape the sign symbol as soon as I put LaTeX commands
  (and not BEGIN..END_LaTeX) near it?

- Hyperlink to other sections: see [[To be referenced]]. Looking in the
  produced LaTeX code, it always link to the current section instead!

- Quotes are sometimes exported in a weird /fashion/ : see "Industriels,
  et commerçants". And compare with the quotes in the next sample
  ("Industriels et commerçants").

  See as well that /fashion/ is not in italic above. Apparently because of
  the special non-breaking space following the second slash... BTW, a
  possibility would be to translate the "non-breaking space" to its LaTeX
  equivalent syntax (the "tilde" sign).

* To be referenced

  This should be the landing point for the hyperreference above.
--8<---cut here---end--->8---

Once again, thanks to all of you that provide us with those wonderful
features...

Best regards,
  Seb

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: name of face for dates in org agenda?

2009-06-28 Thread Brian van den Broek

Nick Dokos said unto the world at 28/06/09 02:00 PM:

Matthew Lundin  wrote:


Brian van den Broek  writes:


I've changed my overall emacs colour scheme and, as a result, the
dates in the weekly agenda view are a bit hard to read (dark blue on
black). I've looked through the interface that M-x org-customize
brings up, but I don't seem able to find the governing face variable
name. Little help?

On a general note (I'll add an FAQ about this), here are two tips for
finding the names of faces in org-mode (or any other emacs mode):

1) While on the relevant text, simply type M-x customize-face and you
   will be given the option of customizing all faces at the point.

2) Type M-x list-faces-display and browse through the org-mode faces.



In addition to Matthew's points, the following might be useful:

3) While on the relevant text, `C-u C-x =' (what-cursor-position with a
   prefix argument) shows (extra) information about the text under the
   cursor, including the face:





4) While on the relevant text, M-x describe-face (also available from
   the menu Help/Describe/Describe face...) gives you information about
   the face and also allows you to customize it:





Hi all,

Thanks to Manish, Matthew, and Nick for the pointers.

Matthew's (1) and Nick's (4), while good to know about, didn't help 
here: the line with point has the face hi-line which masks the 
underlying face from those commands. (2) and (3) both yield the 
desires information, though, so thanks bunches.


Best,

Brian vdB


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Re: [Orgmode] org plot scripts

2009-06-28 Thread Eric Schulte
joseph...@gmail.com writes:

> Hi:
>
> I've been trying to make candlestick plots with org-plot, and the only
> way I've found that I can do this is by specifying a custom script in
> the +PLOT options. However, I noticed that when I specify a script,
> all other +PLOT options I specify, such as with set: or line:, are
> completely ignored. I think it would be nice to allow the user to
> specify plot options in the latter manner along with custom scripts
> and just prepend the options to the script. This way, the user can use
> a single custom script to plot multiple data tables, while being able
> to set things like the title or range of the plot on a per-table
> basis.

That sounds like a great idea, the attached patch[1] *should* implement
the prepending of options to a script as you described above.  It works
for me on one simple test.  Please let me know if it works for you.

> Alternatively, I can also imagine giving the user the ability
> to hard code the exact plot commands right in the org file.
>

This second approach could work with "org-babel" --a library for
org-mode on which I am currently working--.  I hope to add gnuplot as a
supported language to org-babel.  Once this is done it will be possible
to write gnuplot source-code blocks which can then be fed table data
returning graphs for display or inclusion in org-mode files.  Through
the "library of babel" functionality, these gnuplot code blocks could be
named, saved, and called from other org-mode files.

Cheers -- Eric

>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> Joseph
>
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Footnotes: 
[1]  
diff --git a/lisp/org-plot.el b/lisp/org-plot.el
index 78775a0..ae01aa2 100644
--- a/lisp/org-plot.el
+++ b/lisp/org-plot.el
@@ -181,9 +181,11 @@ and dependant variables."
 	(setf back-edge "") (setf front-edge "")
 row-vals))
 
-(defun org-plot/gnuplot-script (data-file num-cols params)
+(defun org-plot/gnuplot-script (data-file num-cols params &optional preface)
   "Write a gnuplot script to DATA-FILE respecting the options set in PARAMS.
-NUM-COLS controls the number of columns plotted in a 2-d plot."
+NUM-COLS controls the number of columns plotted in a 2-d plot.
+Optional argument PREFACE returns only option parameters in a
+manner suitable for prepending to a user-specified script."
   (let* ((type (plist-get params :plot-type))
 	 (with (if (equal type 'grid)
 		   'pm3d
@@ -238,7 +240,8 @@ NUM-COLS controls the number of columns plotted in a 2-d plot."
 	(add-to-script (concat "set timefmt \""
 			   (or timefmt ;; timefmt passed to gnuplot
    "%Y-%m-%d-%H:%M:%S") "\"")))
-  (case type ;; plot command
+  (unless preface
+(case type ;; plot command
 	('2d (dotimes (col num-cols)
 	   (unless (and (equal type '2d)
 			(or (and ind (equal (+ 1 col) ind))
@@ -259,8 +262,8 @@ NUM-COLS controls the number of columns plotted in a 2-d plot."
 	('grid
 	 (setq plot-lines (list (format "'%s' with %s title ''"
 	data-file with)
-  (add-to-script
-   (concat plot-cmd " " (mapconcat 'identity (reverse plot-lines) ",\\\n")))
+(add-to-script
+ (concat plot-cmd " " (mapconcat 'identity (reverse plot-lines) ",\\\n"
   script)))
 
 ;;-
@@ -328,10 +331,13 @@ line directly before or after the table."
   ;; write script
   (with-temp-buffer
 	(if (plist-get params :script) ;; user script
-	(progn (insert-file-contents (plist-get params :script))
-		   (goto-char (point-min))
-		   (while (re-search-forward "$datafile" nil t)
-		 (replace-match data-file nil nil)))
+	(progn (insert
+(org-plot/gnuplot-script data-file num-cols params t))
+   (insert "\n")
+   (insert-file-contents (plist-get params :script))
+   (goto-char (point-min))
+   (while (re-search-forward "$datafile" nil t)
+ (replace-match data-file nil nil)))
 	  (insert
 	   (org-plot/gnuplot-script data-file num-cols params)))
 	;; graph table
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[Orgmode] org-mode tutorial screencasts not accessible

2009-06-28 Thread tan....@juno.com
Hi,

I hope this is the right place to send this query and get a
response.

The org tutorials page lists some screencasts.
2 screencasts do not seem to load at all. They are
  1) screencast for presenting a few features of plain lists 
 : http://lumiere.ens.fr/~guerry/org-playing-with-lists-screencast.php
  2) screencast for  Emacs Org's Column View 
 : http://www.cognition.ens.fr/~guerry/org-column-screencast.php

Are the links still valid?

Thanks,



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