Re: [Orgmode] Re: Release 6.02

2008-04-25 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Apr 24, 2008, at 9:28 PM, Peter Jones wrote:

Carsten Dominik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

The special property Effort can be used for effort estimates


   If you want to plan your work in a very detailed way, or if
   you need to produce offers with quotations of the estimated
   work effort, you may want to assign effort estimates to
   entries.  If you are also clocking your work, you may later
   want to compare the planned effort with the actual working
   time.  Effort estimates can now be stored in a special
   property `Effort', displayed side-to-side with clock sums,
   and also be summed over a day, in order to show the planned
   work load of a day.  See the manual for more details.


Carsten, I'm already using a property called "Estimate" that works
great, especially in column view.  What extra functionally would I get
by switching to this Effort property, or changing the
org-effort-property to work with my Estimate property?


Hi Peter,

currently the only difference is that you can include the duration of  
appointments into the total effort estimate of a day, that is all.


I think this property will become more special in the future, maybe  
using special commands to set the estimate without having to enter  
column view.  But you are quite right that not much special stuff  
happens right now with this property.


HTH.

- Carsten




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[Orgmode] Bug in Orgmode 6.02 when archiving

2008-04-25 Thread Uwe Jochum
Hi all, hi Carsten,

thanks again for the new version of Orgmode!

But I think there is a little bug in the new Orgmode 6.02:

When I try to move tree or subtree with the "Archive" tag to the archive
area of an org-file Orgmode complains with a message in the minibuffer
that the directory "Org" (this is where all my org-files reside) is
read-only, and the tree/subtree doesn't move to the archive area of that
file. In the background Emacs opens another buffer named "Org <2>" (and
even more buffers with that name as often as I try to move a tree to the
archive area).

I verified this by switching back to Orgmode 6.01b: no problems with
archiving in this version.

Seen on Emacs 22.1.1, Windows XP.

Are there others who can verify this bug?

Schöne Grüße,

Uwe





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Re: [Orgmode] Problem with remember and org-mode 6.01d : Finally success

2008-04-25 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi Jurgen,

thanks for the report.
On Apr 24, 2008, at 8:43 PM, Jurgen Defurne wrote:

Dear all,

I noticed this noon that org-mode 6.02 was released, and I tried it  
out. I managed to get it working. Here are my notes for XEmacs 21 on  
Cygwin. I still have to test on emacs 21, but that will not be for  
tonight.


** TODO Error in org-6.02 makefile + patch
  The path ./lisp should be added to the load-path, otherwise all  
requires

  fail/


Yes, I missed that, thanks a lot!  Fixed now.



** TODO Error when requesting 'R' in agenda mode
  (3) (warning/warning) Error caught in `font-lock-pre-idle-hook':
  (error No such face :strike-through)


Hmmm, not really fixed, but worked around for now.



** TODO Error when requesting 'R'
  Clock tables appear unwanted and in wrong places in agenda files,
  where current cursor is located!



Another severe bug, fixed, thanks.



** TODO Error in clock summary
  Face for *Total time* is smaller, leading to bad spacing of table


That is in your setup, the default bold face should not be
wider than the normal face.

- Carsten



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Re: [Orgmode] Underlines and strike-through lines in column view

2008-04-25 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Apr 24, 2008, at 4:55 PM, Wanrong Lin wrote:

Hi,

In the column view, I often see some underlines and strike-through  
lines that show up kind of randomly. I have seen this for quite  
sometime, maybe since I began to use the column view 3 or 4 months  
ago. Are there any special meanings for those lines or they are just  
noise? I am now using Emacs 22.2 (on windows) and org-6.02. Thank you.


This happens because each column is an overlay over a one character in  
the line below, and it seems that the properties of the underlying  
faces are still coming through.  Column one
has the properties of character one in the line, column two that of  
character two, etc.


Fixed now, I think.

Why in the world would you be using a strike-through face?  There is  
nothing more ugly in the world of typography than strike-through  
faces, and web sites that use it immediately get onto the black list  
of my parental control program :-)


- Carsten



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Re: [Orgmode] Bug in Orgmode 6.02 when archiving

2008-04-25 Thread Carsten Dominik

Fixed, thanks.

- Carsten

On Apr 25, 2008, at 2:52 PM, Uwe Jochum wrote:


Hi all, hi Carsten,

thanks again for the new version of Orgmode!

But I think there is a little bug in the new Orgmode 6.02:

When I try to move tree or subtree with the "Archive" tag to the  
archive

area of an org-file Orgmode complains with a message in the minibuffer
that the directory "Org" (this is where all my org-files reside) is
read-only, and the tree/subtree doesn't move to the archive area of  
that
file. In the background Emacs opens another buffer named "Org  
<2>" (and
even more buffers with that name as often as I try to move a tree to  
the

archive area).

I verified this by switching back to Orgmode 6.01b: no problems with
archiving in this version.

Seen on Emacs 22.1.1, Windows XP.

Are there others who can verify this bug?

Schöne Grüße,

Uwe





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[Orgmode] Re: Release 6.02

2008-04-25 Thread Peter Jones
Carsten Dominik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I think this property will become more special in the future, maybe
> using special commands to set the estimate without having to enter
> column view.  But you are quite right that not much special stuff
> happens right now with this property.

Thanks for the info Carsten.

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[Orgmode] Timeclock workflow?

2008-04-25 Thread Avdi Grimm
Hi folks,

I keep wanting to use timeclock along with org-mode, both to help with
my time reporting for work, and because I think the resulting
statistics might be interesting.  However, whenever I start to use it,
two things tend to happen: 1) I'll clock-in, and then forget to clock
out, and wind up with hours on the clock for a ten minute task; and 2)
I'll simply forget to clock in.

Now, both of these can be remedied by manually editing
clock-in/clock-out times, and org-mode makes this fairly easy.  But
I'm wondering if anyone else has this problem, and if you've come up
with any solutions.  Lately I've been thinking it might be nice to
have a retroactive timeclock command which would let me say "I've been
working on task X for the last half-hour", and it would automatically
enter the clock-in/clock-out times.  Even better, it would truncate
the clock-out time of any other task that overlapped.

What do you all think?

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[Orgmode] Re: Timeclock workflow?

2008-04-25 Thread Bernt Hansen
"Avdi Grimm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi folks,

Hi :)
>
> I keep wanting to use timeclock along with org-mode, both to help with
> my time reporting for work, and because I think the resulting
> statistics might be interesting.  However, whenever I start to use it,
> two things tend to happen: 1) I'll clock-in, and then forget to clock
> out, and wind up with hours on the clock for a ten minute task; and 2)
> I'll simply forget to clock in.

I think that's just a habit you form.  If the clock is running it's
pretty obvious in the modeline.  With the default setting

(setq org-clock-out-when-done t)

the clock stops as soon as you change the status of the task to a DONE
state.  When you're done you should try to get in the habit of marking
the task as DONE or clocking out.

>
> Now, both of these can be remedied by manually editing
> clock-in/clock-out times, and org-mode makes this fairly easy.  But
> I'm wondering if anyone else has this problem, and if you've come up
> with any solutions.  Lately I've been thinking it might be nice to
> have a retroactive timeclock command which would let me say "I've been
> working on task X for the last half-hour", and it would automatically
> enter the clock-in/clock-out times.  Even better, it would truncate
> the clock-out time of any other task that overlapped.
>
> What do you all think?
>

Moving 'back in time' (ie you started something 5 minutes ago) I would
clock in the task, use org-clock-goto to get to the clock line and edit
the time back 5 minutes and let it continue normally.  It'll calculate
the total minutes when you clock out based on your new start time.  The
number of minutes in the modeline will be wrong but I can live with
that.

I don't think automatic editing and truncating of other task's timeclock
data is a good idea in general.  If you enter some wrong time it'll blow
away good clock times and restoring those is painful / impossible.



I normally run a simple script to look at my clock times for the day to
identify holes and broken clock lines (start times with no stop time
etc). Sometimes when you org-clock-in with a running clock it can't find
the clock line (because you reorganized your file and moved the task
somewhere else) so it leaves that line open.

ts helps me find those cases so they don't get completely lost in my
time reports.

,[ ts ]
| #!/bin/sh
| 
| # Default to today if no date is specified
| DATE="$1"
| if [ "$DATE" == "" ]
| then
| DATE=$(date +'%Y-%m-%d %a')
| fi
| 
| grep -h "CLOCK.*$DATE" ~/git/org/*.org|sed 's/^[ \t]*//'|sort
`

$ts gives me output for today by default


, [ ts output ]
| $ ts
| CLOCK: [2008-04-25 Fri 08:05]--[2008-04-25 Fri 08:20] =>  0:15
| CLOCK: [2008-04-25 Fri 10:10]--[2008-04-25 Fri 10:11] =>  0:01
| CLOCK: [2008-04-25 Fri 10:11]--[2008-04-25 Fri 10:12] =>  0:01
| CLOCK: [2008-04-25 Fri 10:17]--[2008-04-25 Fri 10:18] =>  0:01
| CLOCK: [2008-04-25 Fri 10:23]--[2008-04-25 Fri 10:27] =>  0:04
| CLOCK: [2008-04-25 Fri 10:27]--[2008-04-25 Fri 10:31] =>  0:04
| CLOCK: [2008-04-25 Fri 10:31]--[2008-04-25 Fri 10:36] =>  0:05
| CLOCK: [2008-04-25 Fri 10:41]--[2008-04-25 Fri 10:44] =>  0:03
| CLOCK: [2008-04-25 Fri 10:44]--[2008-04-25 Fri 10:45] =>  0:01
| CLOCK: [2008-04-25 Fri 10:48]--[2008-04-25 Fri 10:53] =>  0:05
| CLOCK: [2008-04-25 Fri 10:59]--[2008-04-25 Fri 12:27] =>  1:28
| CLOCK: [2008-04-25 Fri 12:28]--[2008-04-25 Fri 12:29] =>  0:01
| CLOCK: [2008-04-25 Fri 12:32]--[2008-04-25 Fri 12:48] =>  0:16
| $
`

$ ts 2008-04

will give me output for all of April 2008 which I find useful to check
the clock data before I do my monthly timeclock reports.

-Bernt


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[Orgmode] Problem with agenda file list

2008-04-25 Thread Dan Griswold
Hello all,

I've encountered a strange problem with the org-agenda-files
variable.

When I start up org-mode (which I do from my .emacs) the following
unsavory events happen:

  1. org-agenda-files is set to only the first file in the list;
  2. custom-set-variables is set to just org-agenda-files (blowing
 away all other customizations);
  3. custom-set-variables and custom-set-faces are written to .emacs,
 even if custom-file is set to a different file name (as in my
 setup).

Any thoughts on why this is happening?

I'm using org-6.02a under Emacs 22.2.1.

Thanks,

Dan

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