Re: [Orgmode] Table summation
Hi Russel, no, I don't see a good way to fix this. Just get used to use the proper commands to insert new lines. To make it easier to add new lines at the end, try (setq org-table-tab-jumps-over-hlines nil) The TAB will create new lines before horizontal separator lines. Judging from your own follow-up message, this might be all you need? - Carsten On Apr 1, 2008, at 6:05 PM, Russell Adams wrote: Speaking of tables today, I thought I'd post a question that I haven't found a simple answer for. How do you sum a table reliably? (ie: tolerant of editing) This table requires the use of org-table-insert-row (etc...) in order to keep the formula correct. | Header | || | 1 | | 2 | | 3 | | 4 | | 5 | || | 15 | #+TBLFM: @7$1=vsum(@[EMAIL PROTECTED]) How can I do something like this, where the last cell is automatically the sum of the column, and not an absolute reference that must be maintained? | 1 | | 2 | | 3 | | 4 | | 5 | || | 15 | #+TBLFM: LAST=vsum($0..$0) Thanks. -- Russell Adams[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key ID: 0x1160DCB3 http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/ Fingerprint:1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F 66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3 ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: orgmode.org down ?
I cannot reproduce it. Can you figure out which of your require statements causes this? By commenting all but (require 'org), and then decommenting them one by one? do you get an error when compiling the lot? Also, I do not have org-nnml, and I do not use blorg. - Carsten On Apr 8, 2008, at 7:14 AM, Cezar Halmagean wrote: Carsten Dominik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Cezar, since nobody else seems to have this problem, chances are that this is in your setup. What is your setup for Org/calendar/diary ??? - Carsten http://mixandgo.com/org-mode-init.el ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Using Alt as Meta
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 04:46:17PM -0400, Chris Leyon wrote: > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Dan Davison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why is is that I have to use for org-metaright, and > > brings up the message: ' is undefined'? What's an > > appropriate way to > > tell org-mode to use Alt as Meta in this situation? > > Thanks! > > Dan > > Try putting `(setq x-alt-keysym 'meta)' in your .emacs Thanks, but that hasn't made a difference that I can see. still functions as M-x but bring up a message saying they're undefined,. I should have said, this is under GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.0) of 2007-11-06 on terranova, modified by Ubuntu Org-mode version 5.23a Ubuntu Linux Tichodroma 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux Dan > > > ___ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Displaying a standalone timer window based on clock-in/out
On Apr 7, 2008, at 6:49 PM, Jose Robins wrote: Carsten Dominik wrote: On Apr 1, 2008, at 8:14 PM, Jose Robins wrote: Before I was aware of org-mode, I developed this small superkaramba timer application which would display which task I was working on, when I started it, how much time was left, and also the current time. I've attached a snapshot of that app to this email. Now I'm using org-mode extensively which has reignited my love for emacs. I know org-mode displays the current task and the elapsed time on the emacs modeline which is good. I was wondering if it would be possible to generate a separate automatic emacs frame (which is compact and for all intents and purposes looks like a simple xwindow) with the task name, the elapsed time etc. from org- mode as soon as you clock in ... This would allow for this timer window to be on all desktops for e.g without being intrusive. Right now, I basically manually enter this info into my custom timer when I clock in and out of a task in org-mode. Not sure whether others using org-mode feel a similar need or whether they use any other methods... Hmmm, I don't really see the need/use for this, so I am not going to implement it. Maybe I can provide you with a hook and you write a package to use this hook? - Carsten That would be good! I'll see if I can do something around that. Now that you've said that "you don't really see the need" for this, I suppose, everyone else would agree with you!! :-) After all, you managed to make an april fool's joke and everyone jumped on your bandwagon not realizing it was a joke! Such is your moral power, my friend!! :-) :-) Ahh, that was great fun. I guess from now on that power will be significantly reduced. :-) Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] different face for weekdays/weekends in agenda view?
I like to look at an agenda view for more than one week (yes, ok, I don't have the world's busiest diary). Is it possible to set a different face for weekdays/weekends so that I can immediately see where the weekends fall? Thanks, Dan ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Using Alt as Meta
Dan Davison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 04:46:17PM -0400, Chris Leyon wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Dan Davison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Why is is that I have to use for org-metaright, and >> > brings up the message: ' is undefined'? What's an >> > appropriate way to >> > tell org-mode to use Alt as Meta in this situation? >> > Thanks! >> > Dan >> >> Try putting `(setq x-alt-keysym 'meta)' in your .emacs > > Thanks, but that hasn't made a difference that I can see. still > functions as M-x but bring up a message saying > they're undefined,. > I should have said, this is under > > GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.0) of 2007-11-06 on > terranova, modified by Ubuntu > Org-mode version 5.23a > Ubuntu > Linux Tichodroma 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC 2008 i686 > GNU/Linux > > Dan > What does C-h k show for those keys? For example, under my emacs running under cygwin under windows vista (I know, yuck), C-h k follwed by shows runs the command forward-word Dave ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Using Alt as Meta
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 10:41:22AM -0500, J. David Boyd wrote: > Dan Davison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 04:46:17PM -0400, Chris Leyon wrote: > >> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Dan Davison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Why is is that I have to use for org-metaright, and > >> > brings up the message: ' is undefined'? What's an > >> > appropriate way to > >> > tell org-mode to use Alt as Meta in this situation? > >> > Thanks! > >> > Dan > >> > >> Try putting `(setq x-alt-keysym 'meta)' in your .emacs > > > > Thanks, but that hasn't made a difference that I can see. still > > functions as M-x but bring up a message saying > > they're undefined,. > > I should have said, this is under > > > > GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.0) of 2007-11-06 on > > terranova, modified by Ubuntu > > Org-mode version 5.23a > > Ubuntu > > Linux Tichodroma 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Tue Feb 12 07:42:25 UTC 2008 i686 > > GNU/Linux > > > > Dan > > > > What does C-h k show for those keys? > > For example, under my emacs running under cygwin under windows vista (I know, > yuck), > > C-h k follwed by shows > > runs the command forward-word For me it shows is undefined Dan > > > Dave > > > > ___ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Using Alt as Meta
Dan Davison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For me it shows > > is undefined > Looks like you have your alt key mapped to alt, not to meta. You can change that in a number of ways; if you're running Gnome the easiest way is through the keyboard control panel. The default is supposed to be that the alt key sends both alt and meta, but something may have gone wrong in your case. -- +---+ | Jason F. McBrayer[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | If someone conquers a thousand times a thousand others in | | battle, and someone else conquers himself, the latter one | | is the greatest of all conquerors. --- The Dhammapada| ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: orgmode.org down ?
Carsten Dominik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I cannot reproduce it. Can you figure out which of your require
> statements causes this?
> By commenting all but (require 'org), and then decommenting them one
> by one?
>
> do you get an error when compiling the lot?
Compiling what ?
>
> Also, I do not have org-nnml, and I do not use blorg.
>
This is what I get by starting emacs -q and evaluating (require
'org). Nothing else.
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Recursive `require' for feature
`calendar'")
require(calendar)
byte-code("ÁÂ!ÃBÄÅ!ÆBÇÈ!" [current-load-list require calendar
cal-menu-moon-menu (lambda (defconst-tmp-var) (defconst cal-menu-moon-menu
defconst-tmp-var)) ("Moon" ["Lunar Phases" calendar-phases-of-moon])
cal-menu-diary-menu (lambda (defconst-tmp-var) (defconst cal-menu-diary-menu
defconst-tmp-var)) ("Diary" ["Other File" diary-view-other-diary-entries]
["Cursor Date" diary-view-entries] ["Mark All" diary-mark-entries] ["Show All"
diary-show-all-entries] ["Insert Diary Entry" diary-insert-entry] ["Insert
Weekly" diary-insert-weekly-entry] ["Insert Monthly"
diary-insert-monthly-entry] ["Insert Yearly" diary-insert-yearly-entry]
["Insert Anniversary" diary-insert-anniversary-entry] ["Insert Block"
diary-insert-block-entry] ["Insert Cyclic" diary-insert-cyclic-entry] ("Insert
Baha'i" ["One time" diary-bahai-insert-entry] ["Monthly"
diary-bahai-insert-monthly-entry] ["Yearly" diary-bahai-insert-yearly-entry])
("Insert Islamic" ["One time" diary-islamic-insert-entry] ["Monthly"
diary-islamic-insert-monthly-entry] ["Yearly"
diary-islamic-insert-yearly-entry]) ("Insert Hebrew" ["One time"
diary-hebrew-insert-entry] ["Monthly" diary-hebrew--insert-monthly-entry]
["Yearly" diary-hebrew-insert-yearly-entry]))] 2)
require(cal-menu)
byte-code("ÀÁÂÃ#ÄÅ!ÆÇÂÈÉÊ%ÆËÂÌÍÎÉÇ&ÆÏÂÐÉÇ%ÆÑÂÒÉÇÍÎÉÓ& " [load
"cal-loaddefs" nil quiet require cal-menu custom-declare-group calendar
"Calendar and time management support." :group applications calendar-hooks
"Calendar hooks." :prefix "calendar-" diary "Emacs diary." holidays "Holidays
support in calendar." local] 10)
require(calendar)
byte-code("ÁÂ!ÃBÄÅ!ÆBÇÈ!" [current-load-list require calendar
cal-menu-moon-menu (lambda (defconst-tmp-var) (defconst cal-menu-moon-menu
defconst-tmp-var)) ("Moon" ["Lunar Phases" calendar-phases-of-moon])
cal-menu-diary-menu (lambda (defconst-tmp-var) (defconst cal-menu-diary-menu
defconst-tmp-var)) ("Diary" ["Other File" diary-view-other-diary-entries]
["Cursor Date" diary-view-entries] ["Mark All" diary-mark-entries] ["Show All"
diary-show-all-entries] ["Insert Diary Entry" diary-insert-entry] ["Insert
Weekly" diary-insert-weekly-entry] ["Insert Monthly"
diary-insert-monthly-entry] ["Insert Yearly" diary-insert-yearly-entry]
["Insert Anniversary" diary-insert-anniversary-entry] ["Insert Block"
diary-insert-block-entry] ["Insert Cyclic" diary-insert-cyclic-entry] ("Insert
Baha'i" ["One time" diary-bahai-insert-entry] ["Monthly"
diary-bahai-insert-monthly-entry] ["Yearly" diary-bahai-insert-yearly-entry])
("Insert Islamic" ["One time" diary-islamic-insert-entry] ["Monthly"
diary-islamic-insert-monthly-entry] ["Yearly"
diary-islamic-insert-yearly-entry]) ("Insert Hebrew" ["One time"
diary-hebrew-insert-entry] ["Monthly" diary-hebrew--insert-monthly-entry]
["Yearly" diary-hebrew-insert-yearly-entry]))] 2)
require(cal-menu)
byte-code("ÀÁÂÃ#ÄÅ!ÆÇÂÈÉÊ%ÆËÂÌÍÎÉÇ&ÆÏÂÐÉÇ%ÆÑÂÒÉÇÍÎÉÓ& " [load
"cal-loaddefs" nil quiet require cal-menu custom-declare-group calendar
"Calendar and time management support." :group applications calendar-hooks
"Calendar hooks." :prefix "calendar-" diary "Emacs diary." holidays "Holidays
support in calendar." local] 10)
require(calendar)
byte-code("ÁÂ!ÃBÄÅ!ÆBÇÈ!" [current-load-list require calendar
cal-menu-moon-menu (lambda (defconst-tmp-var) (defconst cal-menu-moon-menu
defconst-tmp-var)) ("Moon" ["Lunar Phases" calendar-phases-of-moon])
cal-menu-diary-menu (lambda (defconst-tmp-var) (defconst cal-menu-diary-menu
defconst-tmp-var)) ("Diary" ["Other File" diary-view-other-diary-entries]
["Cursor Date" diary-view-entries] ["Mark All" diary-mark-entries] ["Show All"
diary-show-all-entries] ["Insert Diary Entry" diary-insert-entry] ["Insert
Weekly" diary-insert-weekly-entry] ["Insert Monthly"
diary-insert-monthly-entry] ["Insert Yearly" diary-insert-yearly-entry]
["Insert Anniversary" diary-insert-anniversary-entry] ["Insert Block"
diary-insert-block-entry] ["Insert Cyclic" diary-insert-cyclic-entry] ("Insert
Baha'i" ["One time" diary-bahai-insert-entry] ["Monthly"
diary-bahai-insert-monthly-entry] ["Yearly" diary-bahai-insert-yearly-entry])
("Insert Islamic" ["One time" diary-islamic-insert-entry] ["Monthly"
diary-islamic-insert-monthly-entry] ["Yearly"
diary-islamic-insert-yearly-entry]) ("Insert Hebrew" ["One time"
diary-hebrew-insert-entry] ["Monthly" diary-hebrew--insert-monthly-entry]
["Yearly" di
Re: [Orgmode] Re: orgmode.org down ?
Hi Cezar,
from the backtrace it can be seen that this has nothing to do with Org.
Yes, Org requires calendar, but then the loop is running between
calendar and cal-menu
which seem to require each other. In fact, in my cal-menu.el (not the
latest version)
I find this:
;; The code in this file is only called from calendar.el, but can't
;; require it (to supress undefined function warnings from compiler)
;; without a recursive require.
so this is a bug in Emacs, please report it upstream. Or get a new
emacs,
chances are that this has been fixed already.
- Carsten
On Apr 8, 2008, at 6:58 PM, Cezar Halmagean wrote:
Carsten Dominik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
I cannot reproduce it. Can you figure out which of your require
statements causes this?
By commenting all but (require 'org), and then decommenting them one
by one?
do you get an error when compiling the lot?
Compiling what ?
Also, I do not have org-nnml, and I do not use blorg.
This is what I get by starting emacs -q and evaluating (require
'org). Nothing else.
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Recursive `require' for
feature `calendar'")
require(calendar)
byte-code("ÁÂ!ÃBÄÅ!ÆBÇÈ!" [current-load-list require
calendar cal-menu-moon-menu (lambda (defconst-tmp-var) (defconst cal-
menu-moon-menu defconst-tmp-var)) ("Moon" ["Lunar Phases" calendar-
phases-of-moon]) cal-menu-diary-menu (lambda (defconst-tmp-var)
(defconst cal-menu-diary-menu defconst-tmp-var)) ("Diary" ["Other
File" diary-view-other-diary-entries] ["Cursor Date" diary-view-
entries] ["Mark All" diary-mark-entries] ["Show All" diary-show-all-
entries] ["Insert Diary Entry" diary-insert-entry] ["Insert Weekly"
diary-insert-weekly-entry] ["Insert Monthly" diary-insert-monthly-
entry] ["Insert Yearly" diary-insert-yearly-entry] ["Insert
Anniversary" diary-insert-anniversary-entry] ["Insert Block" diary-
insert-block-entry] ["Insert Cyclic" diary-insert-cyclic-entry]
("Insert Baha'i" ["One time" diary-bahai-insert-entry] ["Monthly"
diary-bahai-insert-monthly-entry] ["Yearly" diary-bahai-insert-
yearly-entry]) ("Insert Islamic" ["One time" diary-islamic-insert-
entry] ["Monthly" diary-islamic-insert-monthly-entry] ["Yearly"
diary-islamic-insert-yearly-entry]) ("Insert Hebrew" ["One time"
diary-hebrew-insert-entry] ["Monthly" diary-hebrew--insert-monthly-
entry] ["Yearly" diary-hebrew-insert-yearly-entry]))] 2)
require(cal-menu)
byte-code("ÀÁÂÃ#ÄÅ!ÆÇÂÈÉÊ%ÆËÂÌÍÎÉÇ&ÆÏÂÐÉÇ
%ÆÑÂÒÉÇÍÎÉÓ& " [load "cal-loaddefs" nil quiet require cal-menu
custom-declare-group calendar "Calendar and time management
support." :group applications calendar-hooks "Calendar
hooks." :prefix "calendar-" diary "Emacs diary." holidays "Holidays
support in calendar." local] 10)
require(calendar)
byte-code("ÁÂ!ÃBÄÅ!ÆBÇÈ!" [current-load-list require
calendar cal-menu-moon-menu (lambda (defconst-tmp-var) (defconst cal-
menu-moon-menu defconst-tmp-var)) ("Moon" ["Lunar Phases" calendar-
phases-of-moon]) cal-menu-diary-menu (lambda (defconst-tmp-var)
(defconst cal-menu-diary-menu defconst-tmp-var)) ("Diary" ["Other
File" diary-view-other-diary-entries] ["Cursor Date" diary-view-
entries] ["Mark All" diary-mark-entries] ["Show All" diary-show-all-
entries] ["Insert Diary Entry" diary-insert-entry] ["Insert Weekly"
diary-insert-weekly-entry] ["Insert Monthly" diary-insert-monthly-
entry] ["Insert Yearly" diary-insert-yearly-entry] ["Insert
Anniversary" diary-insert-anniversary-entry] ["Insert Block" diary-
insert-block-entry] ["Insert Cyclic" diary-insert-cyclic-entry]
("Insert Baha'i" ["One time" diary-bahai-insert-entry] ["Monthly"
diary-bahai-insert-monthly-entry] ["Yearly" diary-bahai-insert-
yearly-entry]) ("Insert Islamic" ["One time" diary-islamic-insert-
entry] ["Monthly" diary-islamic-insert-monthly-entry] ["Yearly"
diary-islamic-insert-yearly-entry]) ("Insert Hebrew" ["One time"
diary-hebrew-insert-entry] ["Monthly" diary-hebrew--insert-monthly-
entry] ["Yearly" diary-hebrew-insert-yearly-entry]))] 2)
require(cal-menu)
byte-code("ÀÁÂÃ#ÄÅ!ÆÇÂÈÉÊ%ÆËÂÌÍÎÉÇ&ÆÏÂÐÉÇ
%ÆÑÂÒÉÇÍÎÉÓ& " [load "cal-loaddefs" nil quiet require cal-menu
custom-declare-group calendar "Calendar and time management
support." :group applications calendar-hooks "Calendar
hooks." :prefix "calendar-" diary "Emacs diary." holidays "Holidays
support in calendar." local] 10)
require(calendar)
byte-code("ÁÂ!ÃBÄÅ!ÆBÇÈ!" [current-load-list require
calendar cal-menu-moon-menu (lambda (defconst-tmp-var) (defconst cal-
menu-moon-menu defconst-tmp-var)) ("Moon" ["Lunar Phases" calendar-
phases-of-moon]) cal-menu-diary-menu (lambda (defconst-tmp-var)
(defconst cal-menu-diary-menu defconst-tmp-var)) ("Diary" ["Other
File" diary-view-other-diary-entries] ["Cursor Date" diary-view-
entries] ["Mark All" diary-mark-entries] ["Show All" diary-show-all-
entries] ["Insert Diary Entry" diary-insert-entry] ["Insert Weekly"
[Orgmode] Agenda view for logging?
I'm slowly getting familiar with the agenda view. I see that the agenda view shows the "time-of-day-specification" in the time column. Is there any way to show the time stamps based on the logbook entries? So e.g. If the clock properties for a headline1 is from 9:20 am to 9:55 am, and headline2 has 10:15 to 10:44 am, then the agenda view should show ... 9:20-9:55 headline1 10:15-10:44 headline2 (instead of the time-of-day). Is that possible? Also, the manual says in page 67 of the pdf : "a time range may appear as plain text (like '12:45' or a "8:30-1pm"). If I understood this correctly, I should be able to put... *task1 8:30-1:00pm in an org file and if I go to the agenda view, I should see this listed in today's agenda from 8:30 am to 1:00pm. However I don't seem to be able to see that happening. Did I get that wrong? I'm using verson 5.23a of or-mode in emacs 22.1 Thanks, Jose ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] "Untracked working tree file" error with git pull
Hello, While trying to get my latest org-mode fix from git this is what I got. , | lappy:~/elisp/org-mode $ time git pull | Updating 2537ddc..862f6cb | fatal: Untracked working tree file 'contrib/ChangeLog' would be overwritten by merge. | | real0m8.943s | user0m1.140s | sys 0m1.370s | lappy:~/elisp/org-mode $ git branch | * master | lappy:~/elisp/org-mode $ date | Wed Apr 9 11:57:14 IST 2008 ` I renamed `CONTRIB/ChangeLog' to `CONTRIB/ChangeLog.old' and tried again and this time it complained about `contrib/README'. Are the errors because of something I did? I do not create or otherwise edit any files apart from regular `make' and `texi2html org.texi'. I tried `git checkout -f' to no avail. Any suggestions? Or do I have to do a fresh clone? OS: WinXP+Cygwin git version 1.5.4.34.g053d9 Emacs 22.2.1 -- Manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
