[Orgmode] Does org-agenda modify org file?

2008-04-02 Thread William Xu
Hi folks, 

I just started to learn Org.  I find that org-agenda will complain
"buffer is read only" if the org file buffer is read only, like in
view-mode or my personal less-minor-mode[1].  Does org-agenda try to modify
the org files? If not, maybe `let' around with (inhibit-read-only t) is
good.  


[1], http://williamxu.net9.org/ref/less.el

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[Orgmode] Re: Org-mode and taskpaper

2008-04-02 Thread Leo
On 2008-04-01 09:03 +0100, Russell Adams wrote:
> As to tables, I would miss them dearly. They aren't immediately
> related to folding outlines or schedules, but I frequently use short
> tables for summing information and the exported view is nice.

The `table' functionality can turn into a new spread sheet package for
Emacs.

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Re: [Orgmode] Org-mode and taskpaper

2008-04-02 Thread Bastien
Giovanni Ridolfi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Well, we can also tell you what are the features of
> Org-Mode that we use more frequently so that you can 
> feel how Org-Mode is used.

Not sure this would be really useful, but I guess many people would be
curious about the result.

I will set up such a survey next week.

I'm not sure about requiring people to estimate usage frequencies.  
A simple ordered list of features (most used coming first) would be
simpler and efficient enough, no?

Giovanni, would you help me by preparing the list of features that we
might ask the user about?

Thanks!

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: emacs 23.0.60.1

2008-04-02 Thread Bastien
lanas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> '(org-todo-keywords (quote ("TODO" "NOTE" "LATER" "VERIFY" "BUG" "DONE") 
> org-todo-interpretation (quote sequence)))
>
> Once this line is commented out, then org mode works nicely.  That's
> great.  It's nice to have that font choice in emacs.  Next I will try
> to see why the above line causes the problem.

The above line should be split into two variable settings:

'(org-todo-keywords (quote ("TODO" "NOTE" "LATER" "VERIFY" "BUG" "DONE")))
'(org-todo-interpretation (quote sequence))  

I also suggest you use a different file than your ~/.emacs.el to keep
customized-thru-custom variables -- I use this in my ~/.emacs.el:

(setq custom-file "~/.emacs-custom.el")
(load custom-file)

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[Orgmode] Re: tutorial:

2008-04-02 Thread Bastien
Giovanni Ridolfi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> So I believe this would be a *huge* benefit for Org
>> to have its own tutorial.  
>
> Is it an april fool?  <[°]=,=< 
> Let's assume it isn't.

Well, the april fool would have sounded like: "Hey guys!  The new Org
exporter is finally out!  Download it here => XXX"

> Moreover "The OrgMode tutorial by David O'Toole"
> on the  worg site is not enough? 

It is good, but something more incremental could be done.  

> + fill the page of the tutorials at the worg site

Yes, go ahead :)

> On the other hand if somebzg ;) will write a tutorial
> as clear, readable and enlightning, like you did with 
> column views [terrific!], I will suggest every 
> newbie to read it.

If fact, I might start something on Worg at some point.  If people and
Carsten find this useful, this could go official at some point.

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[Orgmode] Re: Keeping your history for org files

2008-04-02 Thread Rainer Stengele

Hi also,

I also once lost a lot of data in org files due to folding and deleting actions.
I only found out several weeks later!

I have all my org and emacs stuff in a subversion (SVN) repository and was glad 
therefore to be able to get the data back with the help of old revisions.
I also use SVN to work on my files on three different computers.
Whenever I start orging I update from the repository to get the latest files.
At some computers I also do an automatic save and check in of org buffers - in 
case I forget to do it manually.

I highly recommend to setup version control for Org files.

Rainer


Bernt Hansen schrieb:

Hi everyone,

Last week I decided I want to keep history of my org-mode file changes.
I've accidentally lost things in the past when editing folded regions
and this gives me a way to get back to the old version without requiring
any extra steps during my normal work.


* Background


I keep all of my org files in a single directory tree
(/home/bernt/git/org - or ~/git/org which is an alias to this in the
bash shell)


* Setting up the git repository


I set up a git repository for my org files as follows

$ cd ~/git/org
$ git init

I added a .gitignore file so editor backups and export files don't get
in my repository.

,[ .gitignore]
| *.html
| *~
| .#*
| \#*\#
`

$ git add .gitignore
$ git commit -m 'Ignore editor backup and export files'


* Creating commits automatically


Then I added a cron job on my workstation which commits changes to the
repository automagically.  I decided commits once per hour is enough for
me so I added the following crontab entry:

$ crontab -e

,[ My crontab entry ]
| 0 * * * * cd ~/git/org && git add . && git commit -m "$(date)" >/dev/null
`

and I'm done.  This picks up all my .org and .org_archive files and
tracks changes hourly.

If I change a file a new commit gets created on the next hour.  If
nothing changes no commit is created since there is nothing to add.

This seems to work great for what I want.  If I accidentally clobber
part of a file I can get it back from the git repository.

Here's an example of my current commits made by this setup.  Notice it
only creates commits when there are changes to save.

$ git log

,[ partial git log output ]
| commit a518dc89a51f1740e5c2dfdf11f42ec56b9b3e61
| Author: Bernt Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Date:   Tue Apr 1 11:00:01 2008 -0400
| 
| Tue Apr  1 11:00:01 EDT 2008
| 
| commit eb8f39383ab043b5be948c2ffe5d268bcbe5985f

| Author: Bernt Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Date:   Tue Apr 1 10:00:01 2008 -0400
| 
| Tue Apr  1 10:00:01 EDT 2008
| 
| commit 7a33955d889108746e0abb68dea1a3a310902427

| Author: Bernt Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Date:   Mon Mar 31 18:00:02 2008 -0400
| 
| Mon Mar 31 18:00:02 EDT 2008
| 
| commit eacfe6e2342c89371adb3de5485d6f22271f836c

| Author: Bernt Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| Date:   Mon Mar 31 16:00:01 2008 -0400
| 
| Mon Mar 31 16:00:01 EDT 2008

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Regards,
Bernt


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[Orgmode] Re: Gnus journal anyone?

2008-04-02 Thread Richard KLINDA
> Richard G Riley writes:


  > Has anyone out there set up a system to automatically create org
  > entries to journal outgoing emails to certain individuals? Ideally
  > based on a bbdb entry to journal that particular contact?

I would absolutely love this!

Richard


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Re: [Orgmode] Does org-agenda modify org file?

2008-04-02 Thread Carsten Dominik
It does not for me, se we need more info like version numbers of Emacs  
and Org,

a backtrace would be nice, etc.

- Carsten
On Apr 2, 2008, at 9:21 AM, William Xu wrote:


Hi folks,

I just started to learn Org.  I find that org-agenda will complain
"buffer is read only" if the org file buffer is read only, like in
view-mode or my personal less-minor-mode[1].  Does org-agenda try to  
modify
the org files? If not, maybe `let' around with (inhibit-read-only t)  
is

good.


[1], http://williamxu.net9.org/ref/less.el

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[Orgmode] Re: Does org-agenda modify org file?

2008-04-02 Thread William Xu
Carsten Dominik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> It does not for me, se we need more info like version numbers of Emacs
> and Org,
> a backtrace would be nice, etc.

I don't get a backtrace, only: 

,[ *Message* ]
| Debug on Error enabled globally
| Press key for agenda command, or [1] or [0] to restrict
| org-prepare-agenda-buffers: Buffer is read-only: #
`

,[ C-h v org-version RET ]
| org-version is a variable defined in `org.el'.
| Its value is "4.67c"
| 
| 
| Documentation:
| The version number of the file org.el.
| 
| [back]
`

,[ C-h v emacs-version RET ]
| emacs-version is a variable defined in `version.el'.
| Its value is "22.2.50.1"
| 
| 
| Documentation:
| Version numbers of this version of Emacs.
| 
| [back]
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