[Orgmode] Re: org-refile

[Jose A. Ortega Ruiz]

"Carsten Dominik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi Jose,
>
> The idea of using the org-goto interface (which is what org-remember-handler
>  uses for interactive filing), but IIRC Max has pointed out correctly
> that this interface is way too slow for this task.  It is OK for occasional
> use, and if you are comfortable with it, you can use it during remember
> to file your note.  However, if remember has collected some 10 tasks
> during a day and you need to go through this interface 10 times
> in succession, you will immediately get tired of it.  Opening another window
> and doing cut-and-paste from one window to the other would probably
> be better.

I see... yes, I agree with your point here.

> It might be worth looking into disambiguating (is that a word???)
> duplicate headlines, or indeed make the hierarchy look like
> a path or even complete like find-file.  Not a bad idea at all.
>
> C-c r o Implement way to distinguish identical headlines for org-refile C-c
> C-c
>

Excellent! If you find the time, my vote goes for the find-file-like
interface (one could even choose among different org files that way,
with the current one as default).

Thanks, and please keep up the awesome job.

Jose
-- 
They say when you play a Microsoft CD backwards you can hear satanic
messages...but that's nothing, if you play it forward it will install
windows!



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[Orgmode] Bug Org 5.16 Navigating to outlines via speedbar

[Rick Moynihan]

Hi,

First off many thanks to Carsten for implementing the new agenda 
restriction commands, I'm sure they'll prove handy.


There appears to be a small bug with the speedbar support.  If I select 
an item (outline) from the speedbar whilst the file's view is folded the 
file view is not expanded to show the item.  If the file is expanded to 
"SHOW ALL" then the navigation appears to work as you'd expect.


Thanks again.

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[Orgmode] my remember templates do not work anymore in 5.16

[Rainer Stengele]

Hi.
I just noticed that my remember templates do not work anymore in 5.16.
Error message is:


Symbol's value as variable is void: x-last-selected-text-primary


Can anybody confirm his old remember templates still work in 5.16?

rainer



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Re: [Orgmode] Bug Org 5.16 Navigating to outlines via speedbar

[Carsten Dominik]

On Dec 3, 2007 12:24 PM, Rick Moynihan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> First off many thanks to Carsten for implementing the new agenda
> restriction commands, I'm sure they'll prove handy.
>
> There appears to be a small bug with the speedbar support.  If I select
> an item (outline) from the speedbar whilst the file's view is folded the
> file view is not expanded to show the item.  If the file is expanded to
> "SHOW ALL" then the navigation appears to work as you'd expect.


Fixed in 5.16a, available now.

- Carsten


>
>
> Thanks again.
>
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> http://sourcesmouth.co.uk/
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Re: [Orgmode] my remember templates do not work anymore in 5.16

[Carsten Dominik]

On Dec 3, 2007 2:10 PM, Rainer Stengele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi.
> I just noticed that my remember templates do not work anymore in 5.16.
> Error message is:
>
>
> Symbol's value as variable is void: x-last-selected-text-primary


Hmpf, I appied a patch without checking

Fixed in 5.16a, available now.

- Carsten
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[Orgmode] Re: my remember templates do not work anymore in 5.16

[Rainer Stengele]

Carsten Dominik schrieb:
> 
> 
> On Dec 3, 2007 2:10 PM, Rainer Stengele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> I just noticed that my remember templates do not work anymore in 5.16.
> Error message is:
> 
> 
> Symbol's value as variable is void: x-last-selected-text-primary
> 
> 
> Hmpf, I appied a patch without checking
> 
> Fixed in 5.16a, available now.
> 
> - Carsten
>  
> 
> 
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Hi Carsten, thanks for the ultra fast answer but I still ghet this:

org-remember-apply-template: Wrong type argument: symbolp, (quote 
x-last-selected-text)

Rainer



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[Orgmode] [ feature request ] colourful timestamps

[Phil Jackson]

Hello,

Something I thought might be nice is highlighting of timestamps
according to there relativity to time().

For example, at time of writing, <2006-12-11> would be red, <2007-12-03
Mon 19:00> pink. Perhaps for customisation:

(setq org-timestamp-colour-map
 '(("<2h" . 'face)
   ("<10m" . 'face)))

Cheers,
Phil


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[Orgmode] Feature Request - Active and inactive links.

[Tim O'Callaghan]

This is something i have been pondering for a while, and after
seeing the recent discussion on links from org files, thought i
would put forward for discussion. It is an attempt to kill two
birds with one stone. The first is collaboration, the second is a
selective trigger mechanism for generating Agenda items.

Currently Org mode supports links like:
 http://www.astro.uva.nl/~dominik
 file:/home/dominik/images/jupiter.jpg
 news:comp.emacs
 etc

I would like to propose the concept of 'Active' links, based on
the above. The idea being that some links are marked such that
when Org is building an agenda, it includes these links as if they
were in the org-agenda-files list.

An active link could be prefixed by a + sign, possibly with
embedded metainformation for the agenda.

Some possible examples:
-  read/write remote org file for collaboration via efs/angeftp
 +file:/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/me/personal.org
- read only remote org file for collaboration in category work
 +work+http://www.astro.uva.nl/~dominik/remote.org
- read only remote ical file of local whats-on information.
 +whatson+ical:http://upcoming.yahoo.com/calendar/v2/place/upI5ACueA5szd_8-

Some thought would need to be put into how agenda handles read
only links. In a collaborating read only situation, a masking or
supplementing mechanism might be needed.

This mechanism could conceivably be used to auto-build
org-agenda-files by traversing the active links.

What do people think?

Tim.


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: my remember templates do not work anymore in 5.16

[James TD Smith]

On 2007-12-03 15:20:17(+0100), Rainer Stengele wrote:
> Carsten Dominik schrieb:
> > 
> > On Dec 3, 2007 2:10 PM, Rainer Stengele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > wrote:
> > 
> > Hi.
> > I just noticed that my remember templates do not work anymore in 5.16.
> > Error message is:
> > 
> > 
> > Symbol's value as variable is void: x-last-selected-text-primary
> > 
> > 
> > Hmpf, I appied a patch without checking
> > 
> > Fixed in 5.16a, available now.
> > 
> > - Carsten
> 
> Hi Carsten, thanks for the ultra fast answer but I still ghet this:
> 
> org-remember-apply-template: Wrong type argument: symbolp, (quote 
> x-last-selected-text)
> 
> Rainer

What version of emacs are you using? I forgot to test the patch I submitted on 
XEmacs.

Unless Carsten wants to try and get my X clipboard code working, I suggest the
relevant lines in org-remember be changed to 
(v-c (if (> (length kill-ring) 0) (current-kill 0) nil)) 
and I'll try to come up with something which doesn't break.

James 


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[Orgmode] Manage and display personal milestones

[Alex Rudyk]

Hi all,

I am tiring to use milestones in my orgmode system. This is the major events
in my personal activities workflow, similar to software projects milestones.

I added MILESTONE into org-todo-keywords variable and it works great.
Also I am using deadlines to schedule milestone date. The main problem is 
how
to display millstones in agenda buffer sorted by deadline and display 
deadline

date near milestone text.

Not sure how to write custom agenda command for this. Any suggestions?

Also its interesting is anybody using milestones or similar concept with 
orgmode,

if yes how you implement them, and what is your workflow to manage them?

Thx





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Re: [Orgmode] Re: my remember templates do not work anymore in 5.16

[Carsten Dominik]

On 12/3/07, James TD Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2007-12-03 15:20:17(+0100), Rainer Stengele wrote:
> > Hi Carsten, thanks for the ultra fast answer but I still ghet this:
> >
> > org-remember-apply-template: Wrong type argument: symbolp, (quote 
> > x-last-selected-text)
> >
> > Rainer
>
> What version of emacs are you using? I forgot to test the patch I submitted 
> on XEmacs.
>
> Unless Carsten wants to try and get my X clipboard code working, I suggest the
> relevant lines in org-remember be changed to
> (v-c (if (> (length kill-ring) 0) (current-kill 0) nil))
> and I'll try to come up with something which doesn't break.

I believe that 5.16b works again.  But I am not totally sure it will still
do what you meant it to do, and I am very sure that it will not do
that under XEmacs, because it does not seem to have those x-...
variables.

I don't know much about the clipboard stuff, so I'd appreciate very much
if you could take a look at the modified code and make sure that it
works, also under XEmacs.

Thanks!

- Carsten


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[Orgmode] Blank lines in literal html

[Wanrong Lin]

Hi,

Sometimes I use "htmlize" to  convert  a section of my buffer into html 
and then insert it into my org file with "#+BEGIN_HTML" and 
"#+END_HTML". One thing I noticed is the blank lines in the original 
text is "amplified". For example, I have a section like this in my org file:


#+BEGIN_HTML

Line 1

Line 2 with a blank line in between

#+END_HTML

When I export the above to a html file, there are actaully 3 blank lines 
between my "Line 1" and "Line 2".


Is the above a bug or I mis-configured something? Thank you very much.

Wanrong





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[Orgmode] Example of thesis in org-mode and LaTeX

[Daniel Clemente]

Hi,

* intro  ;(warning: orgstruct-powered e-mail...)

  I recently published my final thesis, written entirely with org-mode:

- description of the thesis: http://www.danielclemente.com/disk/disk.en.html
- direct link to PDF: http://www.danielclemente.com/disk/disk.de.pdf
- source file:  http://www.danielclemente.com/disk/disk.de.org

  I started writing it in LyX but after some months I changed to
org-mode. It was a risky change since org-export-as-latex was still in
development, but thanks to Bastien all bugs were quickly fixed.

  It's not a complex document (no images, no formulas) but has lists,
footnotes, bibliography (references) and other embedded LaTeX
(including the preamble in a local variable). I haven't tried yet
exporting it as HTML.


** experiences

  The change was really worth it:

*** integration
  I could do everything inside emacs. That means, even without mouse,
using my favourite key combinations. And with an integrated browser
where I could look up words in the dictionary.

*** outline
  The outlining function of org-mode was the most useful. It's
wonderful seeing 60 pages condensed in one and at the same time being
able to change each detail without much trouble.

  A problem was that each header doesn't give information about how
much text it contains: at the outline you can see „Point 1" and „Point
2", but you don't notice that for instance that „Point 1" contains
just half page and „Point 2" four pages; and that was important for me
since I had to control the number of pages per section.

*** tasks
  I could also track tasks. Each section started as some notes in
Spanish, then I would translate it to German, and finally ask some
German native speaker to revise the text. Each item went through
„write"->„translate"->„correct"->„done".

  To track translations and corrections I used an additional section
and normal lists. I didn't use properties at each trackable section
because that was slower than copying the overview to a piece of paper
and drawing possible distributions of the work there. This was because
the assignments were complex to describe: ex. a person was correcting
point 3 --except 3.2-- and point 4; another one was correcting 3.1,
3.3, 3.4 and 5 but just after point 3.3 is completely translated; etc.
And I wanted to distribute work evenly; therefore I needed to write at
each section how many pages it took. And this was easier with a „piece
of paper", especially it didn't require much time to optimize.

  If I had to do this again, I would invest more time on learning
„org-columns", since it provides a similar approach to what I did in
the paper: for each section there's a column „person assigned for
translation" and „person assigned for revision".


** Problems

  Problems I had with org-mode:

- bugs or missing features of org-export-latex: but all which I
reported where corrected by Bastien
- the syntax of org-mode hindered me from doing what I wanted:
 - I couldn't write *1* *2* *3* etc.
 - it took a lot of hacks to write a number in brackets: [1]
 - things „like *this*" didn't work out of the box (and reached
unnoticed the final version)
 - the processing of some characters wasn't very clear: ~ # \ $ etc.
gave export problems

  Many of these syntax problems were already corrected


** end

  I hope that this encourages others to write more long articles with
org-mode. It's possible and very comfortable; and the more work there
is, the more it helps!


  Thanks for org-mode,

Daniel


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Re: [Orgmode] Example of thesis in org-mode and LaTeX

[Daniel Clemente]

> Could you elaborate a little on how you use orgstruct to compose your mail?
> For example whats your major mode, and mail client? And how they
> interact with orgstruct?

   Not much, since I still haven't integrated my e-mail into emacs. I used 
simply the „scratch" buffer and copy+paste... „Copy" from the .org file where I 
wrote the original text, and „Paste" to Gmail's web browser interface.

   But it's much easier so:

1. Use emacs-w3m
2. Configure w3m-form-textarea-edit-mode to be „orgstruct-mode" instead of 
„text-mode"
3. Go edit a textarea, for instance the place for the text on Gmail's web 
interface
4. The buffer opens in orgstruct-mode and you can write „* Headings" in your 
mail and use TAB etc. to fold/unfold the sections
5. Press C-c C-c to finish the mail. Important: the cursor should not be on a 
heading; otherwise C-c C-c changes tags
6. Send mail

   Mmm... I will also use this configuration. Thanks for asking,

Daniel
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Re: [Orgmode] Example of thesis in org-mode and LaTeX

[Rustom Mody]

On Dec 4, 2007 7:44 AM, Daniel Clemente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> * intro  ;(warning: orgstruct-powered e-mail...)
>
>   I recently published my final thesis, written entirely with org-mode:

Bravo!

One of the things I learn from your mail is orgstruct.

Could you elaborate a little on how you use orgstruct to compose your mail?
For example whats your major mode, and mail client? And how they
interact with orgstruct?

Thanks

Rustom


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[Orgmode] make diagnostic

[Rustom Mody]

running make in org-5.16b gives

make: Circular org-install.el <- org-install.el dependency dropped.

Does not seem very critical, however just wondering...


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