[Orgmode] Re: struggling with fixed date entries
Bernt Hansen schrieb: Rainer Stengele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I wonder what is the best way to work with fixed dates in org. I do not want to them entered as "SCHEDULED". Say I have a meeting on a certain date. I do not want to enter it as a todo, as for me it is not really a todo but a simple meeting which is done when it is over. If I enter it as a simple headline (todo or no todo) and schedule it it will show up after the meeting as due until I mark it as "DONE" or delete the schedule. Now I could use the diary. Agenda view will show the event and complain no more after it is past. Disadvantage: I cannot org-tag the diary entry. As I do not use the diary and diary functions are included in org I can use something like: * Fixed date event :@LOCATION: <%%(diary-date 29 08 2007)> which is ugly and cannot be entered with the help of the calendar (as by "C-c C-s" What do you think? Would it be a good idea to at least support the entering of a "diary-date" by a org function directly with the help of the calendar? Maybe create a third type of schedule type: "FIXED" besides of "SCHEDULED" and "DEADLINE"? How do you manage fixed events? What's wrong with just using a regular date? * Test <2007-08-27 Mon 10:00-11:00> It shows up on the agenda on the date and time specified similar to a diary entry. Huh, that was easy, thank you! Why didn't I find it? I was too deep into "SCHEDULED" and "DEADLINE" thinking and simply did not read the docs fully: Plain time stamp A simple time stamp just assigns a date/time to an item. This is just like writing down an appointment in a paper agenda, or like writing down an event in a diary, when you want to take note of when something happened. In the timeline and agenda displays, the headline of an entry associated with a plain time stamp will be shown exactly on that date. * Meet Peter at the movies <2006-11-01 Wed 19:15> * Discussion on climate change <2006-11-02 Thu 20:00-22:00> Sorry for stealing your time. And thanks again. Rainer ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] bug in version 5.06
I used to be able to open an org file, and with the cursor in the top left hand corner of the file, where it defaults to, press repeatedly to cycle through showing the different levels of my file. Now, I have to be on a top level heading to cycle through the values under it. Did I miss a new variable somewhere that controls this? Dave ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: bug in version 5.06
On 2007-08-27 15:01 +0100, J. David Boyd wrote: > I used to be able to open an org file, and with the cursor in the top left > hand corner of the file, where it defaults to, press repeatedly to cycle > through showing the different levels of my file. See the ChangeLog on org mode page. I remembered it says something about this. -- Leo (GPG Key: 9283AA3F) Gnus is one component of the Emacs operating system. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: bug in version 5.06
Leo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 2007-08-27 15:01 +0100, J. David Boyd wrote: >> I used to be able to open an org file, and with the cursor in the top left >> hand corner of the file, where it defaults to, press repeatedly to >> cycle >> through showing the different levels of my file. > > See the ChangeLog on org mode page. I remembered it says something about > this. > > -- > Leo (GPG Key: 9283AA3F) > > Gnus is one component of the Emacs operating system. Hmm, I do see this when I do a Ctl-h k on the key: runs the command org-cycle which is an interactive Lisp function in `/home/Dave/.emacs.d/org-5.06/org.el'. It is bound to , TAB, , . (org-cycle &optional arg) Visibility cycling for Org-mode. - When this function is called with a prefix argument, rotate the entire buffer through 3 states (global cycling) 1. OVERVIEW: Show only top-level headlines. 2. CONTENTS: Show all headlines of all levels, but no body text. 3. SHOW ALL: Show everything. - When point is at the beginning of a headline, rotate the subtree started by this line through 3 different states (local cycling) 1. FOLDED: Only the main headline is shown. 2. CHILDREN: The main headline and the direct children are shown. From this state, you can move to one of the children and zoom in further. 3. SUBTREE: Show the entire subtree, including body text. - When there is a numeric prefix, go up to a heading with level arg, do a `show-subtree' and return to the previous cursor position. If arg is negative, go up that many levels. - When point is not at the beginning of a headline, execute `indent-relative', like TAB normally does. See the option `org-cycle-emulate-tab' for details. - Special case: if point is at the beginning of the buffer and there is no headline in line 1, this function will act as if called with prefix arg. The last point, the 'Special case' seems to be the problem. I'm on the first line in the buffer, there is no headline, but it doesn't work. If I do a Ctl-U , it works okay. Dave ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Not using GTD
For those of you who don't feel comfortable with GTD as the mind set for your task management system, here is an interesting, detailed, and really well written document describing a more traditional day planner setup. http://johnwiegley.com/org.mode.day.planner.html It is written by John Wiegley who is not only one of the foremost Emacs package authors on this planet, but also someone who has thought about about task management for a long time. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Not using GTD
On 8/27/07, Carsten Dominik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For those of you who don't feel comfortable with GTD as the > mind set for your task management system, that sure sounds like me! > here is an interesting, > detailed, and really well written document describing a more > traditional day planner setup. > > http://johnwiegley.com/org.mode.day.planner.html > That is an excellent essay, with some very insightful comments. I especially appreciated the part about avoiding the build up of overdue scheduled tasks. In my case, this sometimes leads to "agenda anxiety", which causes me to invent all sorts of displacement activities rather than review my daily tasks. > It is written by John Wiegley who is not only one of the > foremost Emacs package authors on this planet, but also > someone who has thought about about task management for > a long time. Now that is a big name to defect to the org camp. The fact that planner's original developer has jumped ship certainly makes me feel vindicated in switching from planner to org. All kudos to Carsten for an excellent package that keeps getting better and better. Cheers Will -- Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica, Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: bug in version 5.06
On Aug 27, 2007, at 18:33, J. David Boyd wrote: Hmm, I do see this when I do a Ctl-h k on the key: runs the command org-cycle which is an interactive Lisp function in `/home/Dave/.emacs.d/org-5.06/org.el'. It is bound to , TAB, , . (org-cycle &optional arg) Visibility cycling for Org-mode. - When this function is called with a prefix argument, rotate the entire buffer through 3 states (global cycling) 1. OVERVIEW: Show only top-level headlines. 2. CONTENTS: Show all headlines of all levels, but no body text. 3. SHOW ALL: Show everything. - When point is at the beginning of a headline, rotate the subtree started by this line through 3 different states (local cycling) 1. FOLDED: Only the main headline is shown. 2. CHILDREN: The main headline and the direct children are shown. From this state, you can move to one of the children and zoom in further. 3. SUBTREE: Show the entire subtree, including body text. - When there is a numeric prefix, go up to a heading with level arg, do a `show-subtree' and return to the previous cursor position. If arg is negative, go up that many levels. - When point is not at the beginning of a headline, execute `indent-relative', like TAB normally does. See the option `org-cycle-emulate-tab' for details. - Special case: if point is at the beginning of the buffer and there is no headline in line 1, this function will act as if called with prefix arg. Yes, this need to be updated. The behavior you describe was seen as too confusing, therefore it has been turne off. However, this is Emacs, so you can of course: M-x org-customize RET open the Org Structure Group open the Org Cycle group there you see the variable org-cycle-global-at-bob The default is now nil, set it back to t if you want. However, S-TAB works always, I think it is the better option. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Not using GTD
On 2007-08-27 19:19 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: > For those of you who don't feel comfortable with GTD as the > mind set for your task management system, here is an interesting, > detailed, and really well written document describing a more > traditional day planner setup. > > http://johnwiegley.com/org.mode.day.planner.html > > It is written by John Wiegley who is not only one of the > foremost Emacs package authors on this planet, but also > someone who has thought about about task management for > a long time. > > - Carsten Very good read. However it will be interesting to see the latest features such as drawers etc factored into such a work flow. -- Leo (GPG Key: 9283AA3F) Emacs is awesome when it does not crash ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
