RE: [Orgmode] org-mode as software for Team/Project Management: severalissues
Hi Ruslan > I need to plan my team work. I have tried a lot of software, and the > best way I found is wiki using. Joel Spolsky recommends Excel for > project planning, but Excel (and model of table processors at general) > is not usable for me - I prefer hierarchical lists. > org-mode is pretty good for me, but there are several issues which > blocks my attemts to migrate to org-mode. Your list of requirements is quite impressive. I don't know how easy it is to adapt org-mode to fulfill all your needs. You might want to look at taskjuggler (www.taskjuggler.org). It doesn't have the wiki feel to it but it features text based entry, all the project planing tools you could possibly need, export to html and ical, handles resources and tasks, etc. It also seems to come with a special emacs mode. HTH Christian ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Proposal: In-place formulas in tables
Hi, I recently got bitten (not badly, say nibbled then), when I had a formula in a field to sum a column of numbers and added another data row --- when I C-c C-c'd to update the sum, the last data row was overwritten (i.e, not the formula field). For example: |---+---| | a | 1 | | b | 2 | |---+---| | | 3 | #+TBLFM: @3$2=vsum(@[EMAIL PROTECTED]) add row X and recalculate (note b is overwritten by 1): |---+---| | a | 1 | | X | 7 | | b | 1 | |---+---| | | 3 | #+TBLFM: @3$2=vsum(@[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Obviously the code is doing the right thing according to the TBLFM rules, it just isn't what I (and, I assume, other people) would expect. So, a solution: rather than overwrite formulas in fields with their values, use overlays to make the formula invisible and set before-string (or after-string) to be the calculated value. Issues: * You probably want to enable toggling of invisibility, and somehow mark values as calc-values. Maybe have a command to edit field formulas in the minibuffer? * The code to align tables would need to take into consideration the values in the overlay, not the text. * Ditto for calculating values * Cut-and-paste of tables doesn't give you what you expect (i.e., you still have formulas, not values) Comments? I could probably hack this in, but someone who knows the code could do it in a few hours (if that) and better than I. Simon ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] possible bug in org.elc 4.73 ?
I cannot reproduce thsi problem. Anyone? - Carsten On May 4, 2007, at 11:12, Giovanni Ridolfi wrote: Hello Crasten, I have a problem with Org-mode 4.73 compiled by me. My emacs version is: GNU Emacs 22.0.95.1 (powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.8.20) of 2007-03-02 on malo, modified by Debian the org-version shipped with my emacs: org-4-67b I wanted the latest org version so I compiled org-4.73 following the instructions in the documentation. Org-mode didn't work. Enabling debugger I got this error: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable org-org-menu) org-mode() set-auto-mode-0(org-mode nil) byte-code("ŸÅ‰ƒ/[EMAIL PROTECTED] !„ ÇÈ \"ˆ‚( ÉÊ \f\"„( ËÌÅ \"ˆ\nA‰„ *Ň" [modes mode --cl-dolist-temp-- done keep-mode-if-same nil functionp message "Ignoring unknown mode `%s'" t set-auto-mode-0 throw nop] 4) set-auto-mode() normal-mode(t) after-find-file(nil t) find-file-noselect-1(# "~/foo.org" nil nil "~/foo.org" (588841 774)) find-file-noselect("~/foo.org" nil nil t) find-file("~/foo.org" t) call-interactively(find-file) whereas if I run $ emacs -l ~/emacs/org-4.73/org.el everything works. I'll stick with latter ;-) however it made sense to me to file a bug report Giovanni ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode -- Carsten Dominik Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek" Universiteit van Amsterdam Kruislaan 403 NL-1098SJ Amsterdam phone: +31 20 525 7477 ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] few bugs in HTML export and wrong links
On May 4, 2007, at 12:56, Giovanni Ridolfi wrote: Hello everybody, it seems to me that I found 3 bugs in the HTML exporter and 2 missing links in Crasten's site ;-) Please, find attached the file that shows such bugs & missing links Giovanni --- org-file with bug report -- #+TITLE: foo.org #+LANGUAGE: en #+OPTIONS: H:3 num:t toc:t \n:t @:t ::t |:t ^:t *:t TeX:t LaTeX:nil skip:t * Org [[http://staff.science.uva.nl/~dominik/Tools/org/org.html][mode]] ** TODO [0/3] :BUGS:HTML:export: + [ ] It does not preserve the links in the TOC for the HTML export (see * Org _mode_ ) + [ ] the :QUOTED text following a list is indented :-( /needs a blank line + a line with a character to be *not* indented/ : : is this indented? yes! + please, try it again! a :Now it is not indented anymore : wow! + [ ] option \n:t does not preserve linebreaks I typed after the full stops This is on purpose. The "a", unindented on a new line terminates the list environment. Now the verse: [with a "\\" linebreak ;-)] \\ Fixed, thanks. ** TODO [0/2] :wrong:links:org:site: + [ ] http://staff.science.uva.nl/~dominik/Tools/org/org.html#Formula- syntax-for-Calc This one does work for me. + [ ] http://staff.science.uva.nl/~dominik/Tools/org/calc.html#Calling-Calc- from-Your-Programs 404 ??! ;-) This indeed does not, thanks. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Proposal: In-place formulas in tables
On May 7, 2007, at 12:24, Simon Winwood wrote: Hi, I recently got bitten (not badly, say nibbled then), when I had a formula in a field to sum a column of numbers and added another data row --- when I C-c C-c'd to update the sum, the last data row was overwritten (i.e, not the formula field). For example: |---+---| | a | 1 | | b | 2 | |---+---| | | 3 | #+TBLFM: @3$2=vsum(@[EMAIL PROTECTED]) add row X and recalculate (note b is overwritten by 1): |---+---| | a | 1 | | X | 7 | | b | 1 | |---+---| | | 3 | #+TBLFM: @3$2=vsum(@[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Obviously the code is doing the right thing according to the TBLFM rules, it just isn't what I (and, I assume, other people) would expect. So, a solution: rather than overwrite formulas in fields with their values, use overlays to make the formula invisible and set before-string (or after-string) to be the calculated value. You are hitting a very fundamental difference between org-mode tables an the usual "spreadsheet" programs. In a spreadsheet, a table field contains a formula, and the result is displayed. In Org-mode tables, the table fieldd only contains the field value, never a formula. This is because Org-mode tables are plain text that can be read as is. A field never contains a formula - one of the nice aspectes of this is that you can write column formulas without copying a formula to each field in the table. Now the problem is, that you can edit plain text any way you like and in this way break the implicit relation between formuals and fields. This is a fundamental problem, ven if we would store formulas in fields. What you can to do avoid problems like the one you encountered is to use org-mode commands to create new rows or columns. For example to make a new row, place the cursor on a row and press S-M-down. Then the formulas will be modified to account for this change. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode