Re: [DNG] Security implications of IPv4 vs IPv6 (was Re: Configuring ethernet port for IPv6)
> On 29 Jan 2022, at 18:22, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 01:22:57AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > [redirecting to list, I think that's what you intended] > >> Joel Roth said on Fri, 28 Jan 2022 15:19:35 -1000 > On my next router, (probably OpenBSD/pf), I'm going to block all IPV6. I enjoy that the badguys have to jump through one more hoop (NAT) to hit me where it hurts. >>> >>> IPv6 does have some security features lacking in IPv4. >> >> I didn't know that. What are some of those features and where can I >> find out more about them? > > A naive search turns up this article that seems credible: > > https://www.avast.com/c-ipv4-vs-ipv6-addresses > > The site appears to belong to a VPN provider. Avast? Last I heard they did antivirus software for Windows. Might have changed business focus since I last heard years ago but a quick look on their website shows they still offer the AV. I guess every AV vendor is jumping on the VPN wagon these days. I hear Norton now bundles crypto mining with their AV, taking a share of your profits. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] PHP 8.1 depends on systemd?
Hello, Trying to upgrade to PHP 8.1, I found out it now depends on systemd or systemd-tmpfiles (no package available). https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/php8.1-fpm Is it a choice made on Debian side or is PHP now really depending on systemd? Regards, ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] PHP 8.1 depends on systemd?
Anno domini 2022 Sat, 29 Jan 12:47:14 +0100 Mathieu ROY via Dng scripsit: > Hello, > > Trying to upgrade to PHP 8.1, I found out it now depends on systemd or > systemd-tmpfiles (no package available). > > https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/php8.1-fpm > > Is it a choice made on Debian side or is PHP now really depending on > systemd? When you build PHP from https://www.php.net/distributions/php-8.1.2.tar.gz it does not depend on systemd. Nik > > > Regards, > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ... ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] PHP 8.1 depends on systemd?
Anno domini 2022 Sat, 29 Jan 12:47:14 +0100 Mathieu ROY via Dng scripsit: > Hello, > > Trying to upgrade to PHP 8.1, I found out it now depends on systemd or > systemd-tmpfiles (no package available). > > https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/php8.1-fpm > > Is it a choice made on Debian side or is PHP now really depending on > systemd? When you build PHP from https://www.php.net/distributions/php-8.1.2.tar.gz it does not depend on systemd. Nik > > > Regards, > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ... ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] PHP 8.1 depends on systemd?
El sáb., 29 ene. 2022 13:55, Mathieu ROY via Dng escribió: Hello, Trying to upgrade to PHP 8.1, I found out it now depends on systemd or systemd-tmpfiles (no package available). https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/php8.1-fpm Is it a choice made on Debian side or is PHP now really depending on systemd? This would be a great problem to me (and I suspect many, maybe). ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] PHP 8.1 depends on systemd?
On 2022-01-29 11:14, Roberto Scattini via Dng wrote: El sáb., 29 ene. 2022 13:55, Mathieu ROY via Dng escribió: Hello, Trying to upgrade to PHP 8.1, I found out it now depends on systemd or systemd-tmpfiles (no package available). https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/php8.1-fpm Is it a choice made on Debian side or is PHP now really depending on systemd? This would be a great problem to me (and I suspect many, maybe). PHP is not relevant to my world but perhaps related to this thread? https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3331 golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Security implications of IPv4 vs IPv6 (was Re: Configuring ethernet port for IPv6)
On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 12:36:46AM +1100, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > > On 29 Jan 2022, at 18:22, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 01:22:57AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > > >> Joel Roth said on Fri, 28 Jan 2022 15:19:35 -1000 > >>> IPv6 does have some security features lacking in IPv4. > >> > >> I didn't know that. What are some of those features and where can I > >> find out more about them? > > > > A naive search turns up this article that seems credible: > > > > https://www.avast.com/c-ipv4-vs-ipv6-addresses > > > > The site appears to belong to a VPN provider. > Avast? Last I heard they did antivirus software for Windows. Might have > changed business focus since I last heard years ago but a quick look on their > website shows they still offer the AV. I guess every AV vendor is jumping on > the VPN wagon these days. I hear Norton now bundles crypto mining with their > AV, taking a share of your profits. Well I did say it was a *naive* search. I'm actually proud of my ignorance of everything Windows. Drifting off topic, I can't imaging what kind of team would have come up with hover-click to confuse users with unintended actions. -- Joel Roth ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] PHP 8.1 depends on systemd?
On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 12:47:14PM +0100, Mathieu ROY via Dng wrote: > Hello, > > Trying to upgrade to PHP 8.1, I found out it now depends on systemd or > systemd-tmpfiles (no package available). systemd-tmpfiles is a virtual package that is satisfied by systemd-standalone-tmpfiles which is available in Devuan[1] Have you got some local/custom apt configuration that is blocking APT from using that package? Mark [1] https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=systemd-standalone*&x=submit ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] PHP 8.1 depends on systemd?
Looking on my main web box (running deb sid w/ sysvinit), I see that I have a dummy systemd-tmpfiles there: :; apt show systemd-tmpfiles Package: systemd-tmpfiles Version: 1.0 Status: install ok installed Priority: optional Section: misc Maintainer: Your Name Installed-Size: 9,216 B Provides: systemd-tmpfiles Homepage: httpgo.away Download-Size: unknown APT-Manual-Installed: yes APT-Sources: /var/lib/dpkg/status Description: make php work so this is not new on deb's side; old enough in fact that i do not recall having to do that. (well maybe, now, but not until after i wrote the above.) -JimC -- James Cloos OpenPGP: 0x997A9F17ED7DAEA6 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] What is your take on finit?
Steve Litt: ... > I read the docs at https://troglobit.com/projects/finit/ , and have > some opinions technically... ... I don't see the point in letting init do serious process monitoring. Just use a minimal init and startup a separate process monitoring daemon (or what theese things are called). ... > Ability to run foreground daemons is a huge asset when you make your > own daemons. Any C, Python, Perl, Ruby, Lua, Java, PHP, C++, Pascal, > bash, /bin/sh, or pretty much any other program that loops forever > doing its job can be made into a daemon by an init that accepts > foreground daemons. This is revolutionary, because it means the daemon > author no longer needs to write the (non-trivial) self-backgrounding > code. I have several home-made no-backgrounding daemons running, and > those wouldn't be possible with finit. I don't see the point, learn to write good deamons. It seems the need to use theese process monitors has sprung up from the availability of shitty deamons. In my view, when a deamon dies by any other cause than from your will then it shall die so hard that it causes a major headacke and the shitty programmer should be publicly flogged as a reminder and example to other programmers -- well not really, but you get my point. Most deamons I have run, they just run, they don't need a process monitor except me. Regards, /Karl Hammar ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] PHP 8.1 depends on systemd?
Mathieu ROY via Dng said on Sat, 29 Jan 2022 12:47:14 +0100 >Hello, > >Trying to upgrade to PHP 8.1, I found out it now depends on systemd or >systemd-tmpfiles (no package available). > >https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/php8.1-fpm So inappropriate. As I said in 2014, systemd won't quit until the cat command requires systemd. SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] PHP 8.1 depends on systemd?
I has had that dependency for a while, you should try the php packages from tdrnetworks: deb https://pkgs.tdrnetworks.com/apt/devuan chimaera main On 1/29/22 05:47, Mathieu ROY via Dng wrote: Hello, Trying to upgrade to PHP 8.1, I found out it now depends on systemd or systemd-tmpfiles (no package available). https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/php8.1-fpm Is it a choice made on Debian side or is PHP now really depending on systemd? Regards, ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- Hector Gonzalez ca...@genac.org ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
