Re: [DNG] kernel-update: initramfs fails to find swap
Hi, Florian Zieboll via Dng writes: > On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 12:07:07 +0900 > Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Florian Zieboll via Dng writes: >> >> > On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 10:34:28 -0500 >> > tempforever wrote: >> > >> >> Something to check/verify: >> >> If swap is listed in /etc/fstab, then make sure it is listed by >> >> UUID rather than block-id. >> >> I mention this, since I have a (commented out) swap line in >> >> /etc/fstab >> > >> > Yes, in the fstab, the swap partition is active and defined by (the >> > correct) UUID. >> >> Just to make absolutely sure, you're saying that the output of >> >> blkid -t TYPE=swap -s UUID -o value >> >> matches what's in your /etc/fstab and >> /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume and you have run `update-initramfs >> -u` after confirming that? >> >> I've been seeing these boot delays as well (on a Debian machine where >> systemd "helpfully" waits for swap to become available and eventually >> continues without when that times out after 90 seconds!) after I >> recreated swap (moved the partition and ran mkswap on it). >> >> Updating /etc/fstab and /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume to match >> the changed UUID and running `update-initramfs -u` made it go away. >> >> Hope this helps, > > > No systemd here, but sysv init -_- and the system stalls for exactly > 30". And yes, I had checked the UUIDs thoroughly several times and now > once again: > > root@nulldevice:~# blkid -t TYPE=swap -s UUID -o value > a743df91-ac0a-419b-95e7-5c266447e543 > > root@nulldevice:~# cat /etc/fstab | grep swap > UUID=a743df91-ac0a-419b-95e7-5c266447e543 none swap sw 0 0 > > root@nulldevice:~# cat /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume > resume=UUID=a743df91-ac0a-419b-95e7-5c266447e543 ^^ As you've already discovered (based on other mail in this thread), this should be RESUME=UUID=a743df91-ac0a-419b-95e7-5c266447e543 > root@nulldevice:~# update-initramfs -u > update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-5.10.0-11-amd64 > I: The initramfs will attempt to resume from /dev/sda1 > I: (UUID=a743df91-ac0a-419b-95e7-5c266447e543) > I: Set the RESUME variable to override this. > > root@nulldevice:~# cat /proc/swaps # (some whitespace removed:) > FilenameTypeSize Used Priority > /dev/sda1 partition 25165820 0 -2 > > But my theory of not-persistent naming of the disks being the reason for > the issue has not proven true: Interestingly, the device names > (sda/sdb) do not (no longer?) interchange with every reboot, but the > swap partition is _always_ not found. In fact, over all five test > reboots today, the naming has been persistent - while on Friday, it > seemed to change reliably - at least when I checked. AFAIK, the whole point of using UUIDs is to find partitions no matter what disk they are on, be that /dev/sda, /dev/sdb, /dev/nvme0n1 or what have you. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation https://my.fsf.org/join ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] software question
How about PHPList? It works like constant contact or mailchimp. mailchimp has a "free" level of service. So far mailchimp has been enough for the small concert choir I do work for. --Curtis On 1/23/22 2:14 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 07:29:27PM +0100, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: On January 21, 2022 7:15:06 PM GMT+01:00, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: Greetings For a non-profit - - - this is not bulk email for sales - - - - bulk email for connection. Is there a linux program (foss hopefully) that will allow me to do this? (Sending regualr emails to a group of people (from 15 to 50 recipients).) TIA With LibreOffice you can send personalized bulk mail. IIRC it was quite annoying to set up, but once done, it worked. I just use /etc/aliases -- hendrik -- [message sent otg] ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] software question
On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:59 AM Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote: > > How about PHPList? It works like constant contact or mailchimp. > mailchimp has a "free" level of service. So far mailchimp has been > enough for the small concert choir I do work for. > Hm - - - did a took a look at phplist - - - - 3rd post (IIRC) was titled: Being marked as spam on all @hotmail, @outlook, @live, and @yahoo addresses it sounds like a somewhat common issue - - - that would mean that phplist is a little short - - - - many people have their email accounts with one of those providers. (Most of the people I know in fact.) Mailchimp seems quite widely used and even their website feels sorta like its into the data slurp. Will have to take a look at this 'constant contact'. thanks for the ideas! Regards ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Screen readability (was Re: The Daedalus desktop needs some love)
Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng said on Sun, 23 Jan 2022 11:32:56 +0900 >About not being able to change what you can't read, a screenreader >might be able to solve that but I don't think it's something seeing >folks would be comfortable using, let alone set up when cannot even >see what you're doing ;-) :-) If a software vendor prefers to make me install and learn a screen reader rather than start with readable text, probably going to move to alternative software. Like I did with Gobo. SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Early Days at Bell Labs
Bruce Perens via Dng said on Sun, 23 Jan 2022 12:02:24 -0800 >Busybox is GNU. The fact that FSF doesn't own it is immaterial. I >developed it for Debian GNU/Linux. Bruce, Thanks for developing Busybox! SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] kernel-update: initramfs fails to find swap
On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 17:28:39 -0800 Bruce Perens wrote: > Isn't this one of the things the "dracut" alternative to > initramfs-tools was intended to fix? Hallo Bruce, thank you for the hint: My system just accomplished the second power-on (of two, this time from hibernation) with its new dracut-generated initramfs, successfully. libre Grüße, Florian ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] software question
On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 10:51:09 -0600 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Will have to take a look at this 'constant contact'. As you are considering "cloud based" solutions, depending on your and the recipients' attitude towards "left-wing activism" [1], you might want to have a look at riseup.net: They provide mailing list services, too [2]. IIRC, you can keep lists "private". While they have become much too big for me to believe, that they are not deeply borked (they are a US based tech collective, [3]), I am quite sure that no user data ever gets transferred to the conventional ad industry. everlibre Grüße and best regards, Florian [1] Not sure about mine at the moment, at least regarding the latest spin towards authoritarian support for pharmaceutical corporations and their puppets. Although one might say that this is just the logical consequence of a long term progression: I am still very impressed and bow my head to the choreograph, lol. [2] https://lists.riseup.net/www/ [3] "As of 2013, Riseup features 6 million subscribers spread across 14,000 lists." Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riseup ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?
Hi, while trying to open the Settings>Repositories menu in Synaptic package manager i get: synaptic-pkexec ERROR:root:Cannot import UbuntuDrivers: No module named 'UbuntuDrivers' Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk", line 101, in app = SoftwarePropertiesGtk(datadir=options.data_dir, options=options, file=file) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/gtk/SoftwarePropertiesGtk.py", line 109, in __init__ SoftwareProperties.__init__(self, options=options, datadir=datadir) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", line 109, in __init__ self.reload_sourceslist() File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/softwareproperties/SoftwareProperties.py", line 599, in reload_sourceslist self.distro.get_sources(self.sourceslist) File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/aptsources/distro.py", line 91, in get_sources raise NoDistroTemplateException( aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a distribution template for Devuan/chimaera Could this be a bug ot did I just manage to break my setup once again? Ciao, Tito ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] software question
On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 21:44:35 +0100 Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > (...) Sorry, list, it was not my intension to talk politics here, damn: This had been meant to go offlist! I fell for the "$sendername" (via Dng) in the 'From' header. libre Grüße, Florian ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] kernel-update: initramfs fails to find swap
Florian, I'm glad that worked. What I found with initramfs-tools was that kernels I built on my workstation were not working on my laptop because they ended up having hardcoded device references built into the initramfs. Thus must be especially relevant to people who build kernels for inclusion in a distribution. Dracut is intended to do without these hardcoded things. IMO if they are anywhere, they belong in the GRUB command line. Thanks Bruce On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 12:12 PM Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 17:28:39 -0800 > Bruce Perens wrote: > > > Isn't this one of the things the "dracut" alternative to > > initramfs-tools was intended to fix? > > > Hallo Bruce, > > thank you for the hint: My system just accomplished the second power-on > (of two, this time from hibernation) with its new dracut-generated > initramfs, successfully. > > libre Grüße, > Florian > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > -- Bruce Perens K6BP ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
