Re: [DNG] APT upgrade (was Re: USB mount problem)
On Sun, 27 Jun 2021 09:44:00 +0900, Olaf wrote in message <87czs887cf.fsf@quark>: > Please keep in mind that apt and apt-get are two different commands. > That said, their sets of upgrade subcommands overlap a bit. Checking > the manual pages > > apt: upgrade full-upgrade > apt-get: upgrade dist-upgrade dselect-upgrade ..whenever (my goto) aptitude upgrade fails, one of the 2 above usually solves the dependency puzzle, IME at least apt-get and aptitude solves these dependency etc puzzles slightly differently, which is why and how one may work when the other fails. > Upon first glance manual pages make it look as if full-upgrade and > dist-upgrade are the same but I am not sure the details of package > dependency conflict resolution it identical for both. ..they are slightly different and I don't recall the differences right now. > On Beowulf, a `man apt` gives a manual page dated 2019-01-27. If you > didn't install man-db and/or are looking for on-line manual pages, try > > https://manpages.debian.org/apt -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] USB mount problem
On Sun, 27 Jun 2021 00:18:41 +1000, terryc wrote in message <20210627001841.1966c...@dragonfly.woa.com.au>: > On Sat, 26 Jun 2021 13:33:56 +0200 > "d...@d404.nl" wrote: > > > > The right command is apt full-upgrade. > > > > The main difference between full-upgrade and upgrade is > > full-upgrade also delete dependencies which are no longer used. ..doh! > > I guess that the older version apt-get dist-upgrade does do > > something similar. > > Weirdly, I've never heard of apt full-upgrade. ..possibly a case of not paying attention when reading manpages, or in my case today, not reading all of todays posts in this thread before posting on things I didn't recall. ;oD > It is always been; > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get upgrade > sudo apt-get dist-upgrade > and occasionally one of the upgrades will suggest > sudo apr autoremove ..playing around with all the "apt family members" helps you find solutions whenever any of the members fails to solve a dependency etc puzzle. ..pick a favorite goto member and use that as your "daily driver" to keep your apt depencency puzzle database manageable, and keep yourself proficient on the other members so you can use those to find solutions whenever your goto member fails to solve a puzzle. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] APT upgrade (was Re: USB mount problem)
On Sun 27/Jun/2021 11:07:33 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sun, 27 Jun 2021 09:44:00 +0900, Olaf wrote in message <87czs887cf.fsf@quark>: Upon first glance manual pages make it look as if full-upgrade and dist-upgrade are the same but I am not sure the details of package dependency conflict resolution it identical for both. ..they are slightly different and I don't recall the differences right now. Google is your friend: https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffnt&q=%22apt-get+dist-upgrade%22+vs+%22apt+full-upgrade%22&ia=web While apt upgrade seems to be slightly more rounded than apt-get upgrade —the former can install new packages introduced as dependencies— the respective full-upgrade and dist-upgrade do the same thing. For the record, I did apt-get upgrade, which is presumably why I missed USB mounting. Best Ale -- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] USB mount problem
On 6/27/21 11:28 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: It is always been; sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and occasionally one of the upgrades will suggest sudo apr autoremove ..playing around with all the "apt family members" helps you find solutions whenever any of the members fails to solve a dependency etc puzzle. ..pick a favorite goto member and use that as your "daily driver" to keep your apt depencency puzzle database manageable, and keep yourself proficient on the other members so you can use those to find solutions whenever your goto member fails to solve a puzzle. And don't forget the trusty old dselect To this day it is my main tool. One of the most important behavioral differences between the dselect and apt descendants is that the dselect dependency solver will remove packages by default, while apt solvers do not. Cheers Mike ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] USB mount problem
Hi Steve, En 20 de junio de 2021 23:09:42 Steve Litt escribió: How can I download, compile and install *hopman* on my existing Void Linux computer? I have trouble with my network connection at home; so, a short comment from my mobile: After several failed attempts trying to build hopman under Void Linux during last weekend, finally i decided to replace the use of CMake by the classic GNU Autotools. My configure.ac and Makefile.am files build the whole project -at least in Devuan-, including Didier's interface (in Gtk+) and mine (in Gtkmm) at the same time, and linking succesfully against the required libraries. I'll get around to build hopman in Void when I have time. Cheers, Aitor. Enviado con Aqua Mail para Android https://www.mobisystems.com/aqua-mail ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
