Re: [DNG] devuan ?

2020-10-30 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 29 October 2020 at 20:31:22, Antony Stone wrote:

> On Thursday 29 October 2020 at 19:31:10, radisso...@gmx.de wrote:
> > Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
> > Err:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 linux-libc-dev
> > amd64 4.19.118-2 404  Not Found [IP: 130.225.254.116 80]
> > Unable to correct missing packages.
> > E: Failed to fetch
> > http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux/linux-libc-dev_4.19.11
> > 8 -2_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 130.225.254.116 80] E: Aborting
> > install.
> 
> I too experience this from time to time with mirrors.dotsrc.org

For what it's worth, I've just had another instance this morning:

E: Failed to fetch http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/debian-
security/pool/updates/main/l/linux/linux-image-4.9.0-14-
amd64_4.9.240-1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 2001:878:346::116 80]


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[DNG] Very strange file access problem

2020-10-30 Thread Stephane Ascoet via Dng
Hi, something strange and very annoying, to say the last, suddenly  
happened to my Devuan Ascii at work several hours ago: some files  
became inaccessible with X applications with my user. I can't find any  
relevant clue in logs, so I just can stick to what I'm facing too:


-I can open a X session with root user
-I can't open a X session with any other user, even one I just created  
for testing. I tried to move its home to another volume to see if it  
was a lock on /home: no change.

-In the X session under root, I can do a "xhost+ ; su myuser" and:
 - launch applications from there. But the same files remains  
inaccessible, and I don't know why and why theses ones and no others.

 - And theses files can be read from console whith "myuser"!!!
 - Another example: I can read mails in Thundebird, edit rules, have  
mails sorted in folders but can't write any mail because of an "access  
denied on a file"
-In the X session under root, these files can be read with X  
applications launched while staying root.


Do someone have any clue?

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[DNG] Very strange file access problem

2020-10-30 Thread Stephane Ascoet via Dng

Hi, something strange and very annoying, to say the last, suddenly happened to 
my Devuan Ascii at work several hours ago: some files became inaccessible with 
X applications with my user. I can't find any relevant clue in logs, so I just 
can stick to what I'm facing too:


I think I found :-)))

It seems the access rights were very bad on "/tmp"

Why? No idea, I can't find any bad command in Bash history. The fact is 
a launched a "rsync --daemon" before the problem appears, this one has 
the following setup:


uid = root
gid = root
use chroot = no

[tmp]
path = /tmp
read only = no

But never had this problem before!
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Re: [DNG] devuan ?

2020-10-30 Thread Radisson97
I have found a solution by switching to devuan.bio.lmu.de
obviously something is wrong the main mirror.
Did someone check the mirror ?
It would be helpful for people that start with devuan to have
a working repository.

CU


> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2020 um 21:27 Uhr
> Von: goli...@devuan.org
> An: dng@lists.dyne.org
> Betreff: Re: [DNG] devuan ?
>
> On 2020-10-29 15:24, radisso...@gmx.de wrote:
> >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2020 um 20:31 Uhr
> >> Von: "Antony Stone" 
> >> An: dng@lists.dyne.org
> >> Betreff: Re: [DNG] devuan ?
> >>
> >> On Thursday 29 October 2020 at 19:31:10, radisso...@gmx.de wrote:
> >>
> >> > Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
> >> > Err:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 linux-libc-dev 
> >> > amd64
> >> > 4.19.118-2 404  Not Found [IP: 130.225.254.116 80]
> >> > Unable to correct missing packages.
> >> > E: Failed to fetch
> >> > http://mirrors.dotsrc.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux/linux-libc-dev_4.19.118
> >> > -2_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 130.225.254.116 80] E: Aborting 
> >> > install.
> >>
> >> I too experience this from time to time with mirrors.dotsrc.org
> >>
> >> I jut repeat the command, and provided I get a different IP
> >> destination, the
> >> package installs.
> >>
> >> It seems to me that there's some problem with one of the servers
> >> mirrors.dotsrc.org points at - the IP address presumably reveals which
> >> one.
> >>
> >
> > So far i understand it is a RR. When i tried to find it (with browser)
> > i had no success.
> > Is there any way to really check it ?
> >
> >
>
> http://borta.devuan.dev/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html
>
>
> >
> >>
> >> Antony.
> >>
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> >> supermarkets are
> >> British, the mechanics are German, the lovers are French, the
> >> entertainment is
> >> American, and everything is organised by the Swiss.
> >>
> >> In Hell, the beer is American, the chefs are British, the supermarkets
> >> are
> >> German, the mechanics are French, the lovers are Swiss, the
> >> entertainment is
> >> Belgian, and everything is organised by the Italians.
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[DNG] Very strange file access problem (solved)

2020-10-30 Thread Stephane Ascoet via Dng

Hi, something strange and very annoying, to say the last, suddenly happened to 
my Devuan Ascii at work several hours ago: some files became inaccessible with 
X applications with my user. I can't find any relevant clue in logs, so I just 
can stick to what I'm facing too:


Now I understand what happened. It was a malformed rsync -a command.

I will spend a much better week-end but I'll need to think about:
-don't use "-a" when not neeeded
-Read more documentation to know if it would be possible not to give 
root access to it when not needed.


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Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-10-30 Thread Michael Neuffer



On 10/29/20 5:53 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote:

On 29/10/2020 13:44, Michael Neuffer wrote:

On 10/29/20 2:27 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote:

--snip--

To ease the maintenance of those servers i intend to migrate them to
docker containers. I wonder people on this list have experience on this
subject?



You might want to take a look at this project:

https://github.com/mailserver2/mailserver


Please correct me if I am mistaken, I thought 'unbound' was tied to 'systemd 
creep' nowadays and have been avoiding it for that reason alone.
I want to avoid creating a dependency on something I don't already have only to 
need to purge it next year ...


If you can provide them with a better option, PLEASE go ahead and help 
out.
My impression of the people working on this was that they are not 
exactly fans of systemd either.


Cheers
  Mike
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Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-10-30 Thread Curtis Maurand via Dng
my vote is for pdns-recursor. i’ve been using it for all sorts of different 
types of networks since version 1.n days. it can handle thousands of queries 
per second.  it’s the first thing i install on any new system.  coupled with 
dns-dist, it can handle recursive dns-over-https queries as well.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 30, 2020, at 1:23 PM, Michael Neuffer  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/29/20 5:53 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote:
>>> On 29/10/2020 13:44, Michael Neuffer wrote:
>>> On 10/29/20 2:27 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote:
>> --snip--
 To ease the maintenance of those servers i intend to migrate them to
 docker containers. I wonder people on this list have experience on this
 subject?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You might want to take a look at this project:
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/mailserver2/mailserver
>> Please correct me if I am mistaken, I thought 'unbound' was tied to 'systemd 
>> creep' nowadays and have been avoiding it for that reason alone.
>> I want to avoid creating a dependency on something I don't already have only 
>> to need to purge it next year ...
> 
> If you can provide them with a better option, PLEASE go ahead and help out.
> My impression of the people working on this was that they are not exactly 
> fans of systemd either.
> 
> Cheers
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Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-10-30 Thread Simon Walter

On 10/30/20 3:19 AM, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote:

That said, I've stopped using unbound and I'm using straight BIND as my
local resolver lately. It's pleasant.


 From what we discovered about unbound during one of the meetings, I 
clearly do not trust that technology.


What meetings? Is it possible to divulge some more info WRT what you 
discovered? I am curious.

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Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-10-30 Thread Simon Walter

On 10/30/20 7:29 AM, Rick Moen wrote:
...

FWIW, I am no longer comfortable with the idea of a combined
authoritative/recursive server on a publicly exposed static IP.
That has been deprecated for long decades as bad security, particularly
because it increases the risk of cache poisoning of the recursive
server.  IMO, a LAN connected to public networks, even a small one,
ought to have the authoritative service on a separate, public-facing
host, and the recursive service on a protected, internal-network machine
that is as shielded from public networks as possible.


Thanks for the bits of wisdom.

Do you know any papers/articles/sites that discuss and explain this more?

I have not updated my IT knowledge in years and am a bit thirsty.
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Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-10-30 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng


> On 31 Oct 2020, at 10:52, Simon Walter  wrote:
> 
> On 10/30/20 3:19 AM, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote:
>>> That said, I've stopped using unbound and I'm using straight BIND as my
>>> local resolver lately. It's pleasant.
>> From what we discovered about unbound during one of the meetings, I clearly 
>> do not trust that technology.
> 
> What meetings? Is it possible to divulge some more info WRT what you 
> discovered? I am curious.

Could it be related to this?

https://github.com/NLnetLabs/unbound/issues/303___
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Re: [DNG] [OT] YouTube archivism targeted

2020-10-30 Thread Marc Shapiro via Dng

Sorry, spiralofhope.  I didn't6 mean to send this to you, but to the list.

On 10/26/20 11:47 AM, spiralofhope wrote:

TL;DR:  YouTube-dl DMCA





The RIAA successfully applied a DMCA takedown to GitHub (Microsoft) for
an archivism program which downloads YouTube video/audio (although it
does target other services).

https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/
https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/10/2020-10-23-RIAA.md

I expect that YouTube will obfuscate the way it delivers content so
as to make the existing youtube-dl release (and other similar software)
nonfunctional (perhaps only for a time).


I think they have already obfuscated things.

I used to use the Video Download Helper plugin for Firefox, but that 
stopped working for me.  Then I installed youtube-dl and tried to use it 
about a week ago, but received the following:


[youtube] sgN7fUGPgMM: Downloading webpage
[youtube] sgN7fUGPgMM: Downloading video info webpage
ERROR: sgN7fUGPgMM: YouTube said: Invalid parameters.

I tried downloading it from the yt-dl.org page, but that version gave me 
the save results.  I use it to watch karate kata when I don't have 
internet connectivity, but it looks like that is no longer possible.


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[DNG] Downloading from ewetube; was Re: [OT] YouTube archivism targeted

2020-10-30 Thread terryc
On Fri, 30 Oct 2020 19:22:34 -0700
Marc Shapiro via Dng  wrote:

> Sorry, spiralofhope.  I didn't6 mean to send this to you, but to the
> list.
> 
> On 10/26/20 11:47 AM, spiralofhope wrote:
> > TL;DR:  YouTube-dl DMCA
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> > The RIAA successfully applied a DMCA takedown to GitHub (Microsoft)
> > for an archivism program which downloads YouTube video/audio
> > (although it does target other services).
> >
> > https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/
> > https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/10/2020-10-23-RIAA.md
> >
> > I expect that YouTube will obfuscate the way it delivers content so
> > as to make the existing youtube-dl release (and other similar
> > software) nonfunctional (perhaps only for a time).  
> 
> I think they have already obfuscated things.
> 
> I used to use the Video Download Helper plugin for Firefox, but that 
> stopped working for me.  Then I installed youtube-dl and tried to use
> it about a week ago, but received the following:
> 
> [youtube] sgN7fUGPgMM: Downloading webpage
> [youtube] sgN7fUGPgMM: Downloading video info webpage
> ERROR: sgN7fUGPgMM: YouTube said: Invalid parameters.
> 
> I tried downloading it from the yt-dl.org page, but that version gave
> me the save results.  I use it to watch karate kata when I don't have 
> internet connectivity, but it looks like that is no longer possible.
>
This just popped up on Torrentfreak about the matter.
https://torrentfreak.com/
https://torrentfreak.com/deciphering-youtubes-rolling-cypher-in-your-browser-is-a-piece-of-cake-201030/

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