Re: [DNG] Solving simple problems in amazingly complicated ways
Anno domini 2020 Thu, 12 Mar 19:03:14 -0500 John Morris scripsit: > On Thu, 2020-03-12 at 21:45 +, Rainer Weikusat via Dng wrote: > > - the sole purpose of this text is for the amusement of people who > > ever > > had to find a (preferably simple) solution for a complicated problem > > - > > > > Problem I had to deal with since yesterday: Some Debian 10 system (use > > of systemd mandated) installation I've created was to be captured by a > > certain image capturing tool running on Windows. As it turned out to > > be, > > this capturing tool has no support for Linux swap partitions and thus, > > tries to capture them by doing a sector-by-sectory copy of random junk > > which won't ever be of any use again. > > > > Proposed solution: Turn that into an ext4 filesystem, record the UUID, > > run a script at boot to convert it back to a swap partition. This > > could > > have been solved by suitable manipulation of /etc/rcS-symlinks but the > > mere thought of something as unsophisticated at that would cause > > systemd > > developers to start spinning until the reach escape velocity, never to > > be seen again - and who could possibly want that. > > How about a simpler solution? > On shutdown: > 1. Capture the label and UUID of the swap partition. > 2. Do a swapoff. > 3. Zero out the swap partition. > 4. Remake it with the same label and UUID. > > It will still get a sector by sector copy but assuming it is compressed > it will be of trivial size. LOL ... to make things more interesting, I'd suggest this: - on shutdown: remove the swap-partition from the partition table - on boot: create an entry in the partition table for swap and use it Noe there might be interestring sideeffects :) -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ... ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] What can even possibly go wrong?
Le 12/03/2020 à 22:02, John Morris a écrit : On Thu, 2020-03-12 at 11:14 +, Rowland penny via Dng wrote: Here we go again, reinventing the wheel ;-) Windows has something similar, they call it roaming profiles and that has its problems. It isn't exactly reinventing the wheel, it is more like porting the wheel. The fact Windows has a similar feature is exactly the point, it has always been the point. RedHat/IBM is working with Microsoft to prepare the way for what anyone paying attention knows is coming. Maintaining the Windows kernel and device drivers is inefficient and is gaining them nothing at this point. So make Linux + userland feature complete enough to simply port the Windows UI to it and merge it into one new platform. If they could bolt Win32 onto NT they can bolt it onto Linux + Systemd + Wayland + *kit + yet more RH cruft to make it all work. The sooner we realize that RedHat is leading nothing less than a hard fork of Linux + GNU into Linux + Windows, exactly like Google created Linux + Android btw, the less damage to the Linux + GNU/UNIX side of the fork. It is long past the point where we need to move our tree away from RedHat and everything it has infected. If that means adopting large parts of modern BSD, so be it. Guess that depends on whether there is anyone left at GNU who can make strategic decisions and just how many "GNU" projects are effectively RedHat ones now. Stallman being #meetoo purged was probably an intentional thing. Once we finally complete the fork everyone will be happier, the world will be a better place, etc. Window atop Linux will even be a better product. Yep, Systemd is nothing but a compatibility layer between the Linux kernel and Windows. It's amazing how they got plenty of unpaid developpers and maintainers contribute this project. Didier ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux
On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 22:59:28 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > For me, it's all about POSIX. I immediately understood the UNIX philosophy when I first heard of it; tiny, single-purpose programs which can be stitched together. I agreed with it, but found all the tools incredibly complex mainly because of shit documentation and poor examples. I don't (technically) program, so I started writing all that as I went along. I've grown tired over the years though, preferring the lazy user side of things. I never really did proper programming, but it's very fulfilling to script my own stuff. For example, I don't need a GUI screenshot program when I can summon this with an Openbox hotkey: \sh -c "\ \urxvt -title 'screenshot' -geometry 120x50+0+0 -e \\ \dialog --no-shadow --msgbox 'screenshot' 0 0 ;\\ \scrot --select 'screenshot--%Y-%m-%d_%H:%M:%S--$wx$h.png' --exec '\mv $f /l/live/__ ; \gpicview /l/live/__/$f' \\ " Oh, and since I'm on that and we have some Openbox people.. guess what this does: \sh -c "\ \geany \\ $( \realpath ~/.themes/minimal-spiralofhope/openbox-3/themerc ) \\ $( \realpath ~/.config/openbox/rc.xml ) ;\ \waitpid $! ;\ \openbox --reconfigure ;\ \waitpid $! ;\ \xrefresh \\ " The problem for me is how to share things so they're discoverable. I've got a GitHub repository, but.. that's not exactly connected to search engines (maybe one day to Bing?), especially since I don't really describe every little script in a way that users could type in keywords to discover. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux
Steve Litt writes: [...] > FreeDesktop.Org doesn't like me doing 90 minutes of programming > (and actually Lego(R) block assembly). Their preferred method goes > something like this: > > * Use Gnome. > * Find Gnome software that solves your problem: > - Ask your LUG > - Ask on stackoverflow > - Read every page on FreeDesktop.Org > - Spend a day doing web searches > * Test the found softwares for suitability > - If it fails a requirement, ask around for a fix > - Experiment, experiment, experiment > * Install the necessary softwares > - Adjust your workflow to comply with the softwares > - Weave yourself through and around all the software > requirements An incorrigible optimist, I presume. With Freedoorstop, if Gnome doesn't handle it out of the box, it's not an issue 'legitmate' users ought to be dealing with :->. SCNR. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
