[DNG] Installing devuan on newer hardware
Hi, I am stuck here with installation on new ThinkPad P43s. Ascii installer doesn't detect any network so I tried to install debian buster and then change to beowulf. However, buster has symlinked /bin and others to /usr so I need to reinstall from devuan iso. The weird thing is that iwlwifi firmware files stated to run under 4.14+ kernels so I can't run then in ascii installer. Beowulf installer is missing, I tried mini.iso from https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/beowulf/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ but it isn't booting, bailing out to grub prompt. Can someone suggest how would I proceed with devuan installation here? Thanks! -- Regards, Yevgeny ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Raspberrypi 4
Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 14:28:26 +0100 Bernard Rosset via Dng > wrote: > > > > I am trying to get my new pi to boot, I have replaced the bootcode.bin > > > with the one from raspbian buster, unfortunately the pi stalls. > > > > > > Any suggestions what else to try?? > > > > A quick search engine use lead to > > https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bootmodes/ > > stating: "Note: The Raspberry Pi 4B does not use the bootcode.bin file - > > instead the bootloader is located in an on-board EEPROM chip. The Pi 4B > > bootloader currently only supports booting from an SD card." > > I see that as a good thing: Less variables to screw up. I hope the EEPROM > bootloader is not UEFI. Anyway, one could use the SD card as / and then if > necessary use a big disk for all the expected big directories. With the > advent of bind mounting, you can do that with a 1 partition hard disk. > > I read the article and didn't see anything about the Rpi 2.4b. I wonder if > that boots the same way. > > SteveT Thanks for the clarifation gents, unfortunately the contents of this website is as clear as mud to me. I gues i will have to wait for someone far more capable to solve this issue. -- Roel Wagenaar, telegram: 0630865765 Linux-User #469851 with the Linux Counter; http://linuxcounter.net/ Antw.: Omdat het de volgorde verstoord waarin mensen tekst lezen. Vraag: Waarom is top-posting een slechte gewoonte? Antw.: Top-posting. Vraag: Wat is het meest ergerlijke in e-mail? Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 61, Issue 37
Somebody called "sakaki" has put together a working 64-bit gentoo distro for the Raspberry Pi 4B. You might be able to use that as a starting point, and put devuan on top of it. The gentoo distro works pretty well, except that it updates by recompiling and that takes a lo-o-o-ong time. And it uses "emerge" instead of "apt" so I have to learn something new. Oh, the horror... On 10/31/19 7:00 AM, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: I am trying to get my new pi to boot, I have replaced the bootcode.bin with the one from raspbian buster, unfortunately the pi stalls. Any suggestions what else to try?? -- Roel Wagenaar, -- -Robert Montante, Ph.D. Department of Mathematical and Digital Sciences Bloomsburg Universitybobmon AT bloomu DOT edu Bloomsburg, PA 17815prof.montante AT gmail DOT com phone: 570-389-4624 montcs.bloomu.edu/~bobmon/ -- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Installing devuan on newer hardware
Try https://borta.rrq.id.au/2019-10-28-devuan_beowulf_3.0_amd64_netinstall.iso or https://borta.rrq.id.au/2019-10-28-devuan_beowulf_3.0_amd64_dvd-1.iso and comment results. Best Regards -- Ismael Devuan User: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=devuan Web Site: http://www.sisconge.byethost15.com/ - Original Message - From: "Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky via Dng" To: "Dng" Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 6:44 AM Subject: [DNG] Installing devuan on newer hardware Hi, I am stuck here with installation on new ThinkPad P43s. Ascii installer doesn't detect any network so I tried to install debian buster and then change to beowulf. However, buster has symlinked /bin and others to /usr so I need to reinstall from devuan iso. The weird thing is that iwlwifi firmware files stated to run under 4.14+ kernels so I can't run then in ascii installer. Beowulf installer is missing, I tried mini.iso from https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/beowulf/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ but it isn't booting, bailing out to grub prompt. Can someone suggest how would I proceed with devuan installation here? Thanks! -- Regards, Yevgeny ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Raspberrypi 4
On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 12:31:18PM +0100, Roel Wagenaar via Dng wrote: > L.S. > > I am trying to get my new pi to boot, I have replaced the bootcode.bin with > the one from raspbian buster, unfortunately the pi stalls. > > Any suggestions what else to try?? Would a crossgrade frm buster to beowulf do the trick? -- hendrik > > -- > Roel Wagenaar, > > telegram: 0630865765 > Linux-User #469851 with the Linux Counter; http://linuxcounter.net/ > > Antw.: Omdat het de volgorde verstoord waarin mensen tekst lezen. > Vraag: Waarom is top-posting een slechte gewoonte? > Antw.: Top-posting. > Vraag: Wat is het meest ergerlijke in e-mail? > > For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and > wrong. << H. L. Mencken >> > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Installing devuan on newer hardware
On 10/31/19 6:44 AM, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky via Dng wrote: I tried mini.iso from https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/beowulf/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ but it isn't booting, bailing out to grub prompt. Can someone suggest how would I proceed with devuan installation here? Thanks! The first thing to try would be to boot the installer media into rescue mode and try reinstalling grub. Or chroot the installed system and run grub-install and update-grub. If this is a uefi system, you might just need to replace grub-efi-amd64-signed with grub-efi-amd64 while you're in chroot. Remember to 'apt update' first. fsmithred ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Raspberrypi 4
". via Dng" wrote: > Somebody called "sakaki" has put together a working 64-bit gentoo distro > for the Raspberry Pi 4B. You might be able to use that as a starting > point, and put devuan on top of it. > > The gentoo distro works pretty well, except that it updates by recompiling > and that takes a lo-o-o-ong time. And it uses "emerge" instead of "apt" > so I have to learn something new. Oh, the horror... > > On 10/31/19 7:00 AM, dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > I am trying to get my new pi to boot, I have replaced the bootcode.bin > > with the one from raspbian buster, unfortunately the pi stalls. > > > > Any suggestions what else to try?? > > > > -- Roel Wagenaar, > THANKS, great suggestion, this is working, ascii is already dist-upgrading to ascii-backports. Simply rsync --delete the content of the ascii install to the root on the running machine did the trick (sofar). After a reboot the upgrade proces is running, so far so good. -- Roel Wagenaar, telegram: 0630865765 Linux-User #469851 with the Linux Counter; http://linuxcounter.net/ Antw.: Omdat het de volgorde verstoord waarin mensen tekst lezen. Vraag: Waarom is top-posting een slechte gewoonte? Antw.: Top-posting. Vraag: Wat is het meest ergerlijke in e-mail? Hard work has a future payoff. Laziness pays off NOW! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Raspberrypi 4
Thanks for the clarifation gents, unfortunately the contents of this website is as clear as mud to me. I gues i will have to wait for someone far more capable to solve this issue. May I suggest you do not give up? Not knowing is great: it means all you can do is learn (o: It seems this website got a "Getting started" section (https://projects.raspberrypi.org/en/pathways/getting-started-with-raspberry-pi). More specifically one about how to set up the hardware by using a SD card (https://projects.raspberrypi.org/en/projects/raspberry-pi-setting-up). It seems there are picture and step-by-step procedures, which might help you feel better. My 42 cents, Bernard Rosset https://rosset.net/ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Raspberrypi 4
On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 02:28:26PM +0100, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: > > I am trying to get my new pi to boot, I have replaced the bootcode.bin with > > the one from raspbian buster, unfortunately the pi stalls. > > > > Any suggestions what else to try?? > > A quick search engine use lead to > https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bootmodes/ > stating: > "Note: The Raspberry Pi 4B does not use the bootcode.bin file - instead the > bootloader is located in an on-board EEPROM chip. The Pi 4B bootloader > currently only supports booting from an SD card." Does that mean you could boot grub from the SD card, which could then take over and load whatever OS from whatever accessible drive it wants? -- hendrik > > That's all I could find in 1 min 37 s. I own no Raspberry myself. > Bernard Rosset > https://rosset.net/ > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Installing devuan on newer hardware
Hi, > The first thing to try would be to boot the installer media into rescue > mode and try reinstalling grub. Or chroot the installed system and run > grub-install and update-grub. There is no installed grub in this case so there is nothing to re-install. There is no installed system to chroot to as well. > If this is a uefi system, you might just need to replace > grub-efi-amd64-signed with grub-efi-amd64 while you're in chroot. Remember > to 'apt update' first. Ok but I'd need to install something to chroot to. So this is not the case here. -- Regards, Yevgeny ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Fetchmail on Beowulf
I installed Beowulf over Ascii. For mail I rely solely on mutt and exim4. I was unable to get email running with Beowulf even though the confifuration remains the same. I now suspect my problem was the upgrade to fetchmail 6.4.0, which seems to have made a change that breaks e-mail. It seemss that the new fetchmail looks for an SSL certificate, and finding none breaks the connection. I may have worked around this intering the line sslproto " into .fetchmailrc. Is this correct? I worry that it is not because I found no discussion on line Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
