Re: [DNG] DSA openssl openssl1.0

2018-04-04 Thread vmlinux


On April 3, 2018 10:30:02 AM CDT, leloft  wrote:
::On Tue, 03 Apr 2018 19:52:40 +0900
::Olaf Meeuwissen  wrote:
::
::@Florian, @Olaf,
::
::Thank you for your most helpful replies.  They have informed an
::improved
::strategy.

Thank you for providing the security advisories! It's good to know that any 
Devuan specific issues have an official notification stream so I don't miss 
anything. 

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Re: [DNG] procps

2018-04-04 Thread KatolaZ
On Tue, Apr 03, 2018 at 10:10:40AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> for version 2:3.3.12-3 of procps, Ivan J. did a fix in devuan to not
> depend to libsystemd. Now, we got the updated version 2:3.3.12-4 from
> debian and there is a new version 2:3.3.13-1 in queue. When updating the
> system with 2:3.3.12-4 coming from devuan, it pull in all systemd
> dependencies.
> 
> Could you please fix that again?
> 


I might have missed something, but if you are using only Devuan repos
you won't get updates of forked packages from debian. If a package is
forked by Devuan, you are guaranteed to always get the Devuan version
(if you use only devuan repos).

I must admit I have not read thre full thread though, so I might be
missing something.

HND

KatolaZ

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Re: [DNG] Does devuan install from USB really need a CDROM?

2018-04-04 Thread Jaromil
hi Mubarak,

On Mon, 26 Mar 2018, muba...@openmailbox.org wrote:

> Hello Erik & Alessandro
> 
> I faced similar problem but not in the system installation.
> 
> 4-6 months ago I installed Devuan 1.0 DVD i386 and amd64 .iso. And
> after the installation complete i find out that network-manager,
> modemmanager are not installed by default(they are included in the
> DVD but the debian-installer did not install them).

thanks for this post outlining a possible solution.

today a friend contacted me after installing ASCII on a HP Gen 9
server (UEFI) reporting the same issue: no CDROM found.

I wonder if we can nail the error to a reproducible state?
haven't incurred into it so far.

ciao




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Re: [DNG] Does devuan install from USB really need a CDROM?

2018-04-04 Thread Rowland Penny
On Wed, 4 Apr 2018 19:09:04 +0200
Jaromil  wrote:

> hi Mubarak,
> 
> On Mon, 26 Mar 2018, muba...@openmailbox.org wrote:
> 
> > Hello Erik & Alessandro
> > 
> > I faced similar problem but not in the system installation.
> > 
> > 4-6 months ago I installed Devuan 1.0 DVD i386 and amd64 .iso. And
> > after the installation complete i find out that network-manager,
> > modemmanager are not installed by default(they are included in the
> > DVD but the debian-installer did not install them).
> 
> thanks for this post outlining a possible solution.
> 
> today a friend contacted me after installing ASCII on a HP Gen 9
> server (UEFI) reporting the same issue: no CDROM found.
> 
> I wonder if we can nail the error to a reproducible state?
> haven't incurred into it so far.
> 
> ciao
> 

This recently happened to me when trying to install Ascii on a laptop,
the install went okay until it started asking for the CDROM. I was
installing from a USB device.

I started the install again, but it happened again. It was then, whilst
checking everything, that I found the laptop was not connected to the
network via eth0 and I had been using this for the install (network
install). I fixed this (the plug wasn't fully home) and started again,
this time the install didn't ask for the CDROM and the install
completed successfully.

So, could it be a lack of network connectivity, leading to needing the
CDROM (even though it isn't being installed from CDROM) to complete
the install ??

HTH

Rowland
 
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[DNG] I hope one *can* use a CDROM?

2018-04-04 Thread Hendrik Boom
I hope fixing this doesn't disable the CDROM and that ascii or jessie 
will still install from a CDROM when you *have* a CDROM.

My machine's USB has died.

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Re: [DNG] I hope one *can* use a CDROM?

2018-04-04 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Apr 04, 2018 at 08:06:10PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I hope fixing this doesn't disable the CDROM and that ascii or jessie 
> will still install from a CDROM when you *have* a CDROM.

Ascii and Jessie are Stretch and Jessie respectively, both of which have CD
as the _primary_ install method (USB storage being just dumb wasteful
emulation that doesn't allow any goodies a writeable medium would allow).
There are no plans to change this for Buster, either.

On the other hand, I for one haven't owned a machine equipped with a CD
drive in like a decade (and DVD or BD: never), although I do have a few
drives in the junk pile, briefly attached one last year to help a relative
to sort through old stuff.  CD/DVD/BD drives are hardware that's already
rare and will become unheard of very shortly.

> My machine's USB has died.

Then how do you attach peripherals?  New boxes don't tend to come with a
PS2 port anymore.

Unless your machine is a laptop, in which case you already have a keyboard
and a bad pointing device, but have no way to attach a CD drive even if you
wanted.


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Re: [DNG] I hope one *can* use a CDROM?

2018-04-04 Thread Bruce Perens
In the spirit of Devuan's going back to the old, good way of doing things,
you may only use phonograph records.

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 6:40 PM, Adam Borowski  wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 04, 2018 at 08:06:10PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > I hope fixing this doesn't disable the CDROM and that ascii or jessie
> > will still install from a CDROM when you *have* a CDROM.
>
> Ascii and Jessie are Stretch and Jessie respectively, both of which have CD
> as the _primary_ install method (USB storage being just dumb wasteful
> emulation that doesn't allow any goodies a writeable medium would allow).
> There are no plans to change this for Buster, either.
>
> On the other hand, I for one haven't owned a machine equipped with a CD
> drive in like a decade (and DVD or BD: never), although I do have a few
> drives in the junk pile, briefly attached one last year to help a relative
> to sort through old stuff.  CD/DVD/BD drives are hardware that's already
> rare and will become unheard of very shortly.
>
> > My machine's USB has died.
>
> Then how do you attach peripherals?  New boxes don't tend to come with a
> PS2 port anymore.
>
> Unless your machine is a laptop, in which case you already have a keyboard
> and a bad pointing device, but have no way to attach a CD drive even if you
> wanted.
>
>
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Re: [DNG] I hope one *can* use a CDROM?

2018-04-04 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Apr 05, 2018 at 03:40:55AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 04, 2018 at 08:06:10PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > I hope fixing this doesn't disable the CDROM and that ascii or jessie 
> > will still install from a CDROM when you *have* a CDROM.
> 
> Ascii and Jessie are Stretch and Jessie respectively, both of which have CD
> as the _primary_ install method (USB storage being just dumb wasteful
> emulation that doesn't allow any goodies a writeable medium would allow).
> There are no plans to change this for Buster, either.
> 
> On the other hand, I for one haven't owned a machine equipped with a CD
> drive in like a decade (and DVD or BD: never), although I do have a few
> drives in the junk pile, briefly attached one last year to help a relative
> to sort through old stuff.  CD/DVD/BD drives are hardware that's already
> rare and will become unheard of very shortly.
> 
> > My machine's USB has died.
> 
> Then how do you attach peripherals?  New boxes don't tend to come with a
> PS2 port anymore.

It's an old machine with a PS2 port.  I've been planning to replace it 
with a modern system, but I can't bring myself to buy a machine with 
malware known to be built into the hardware.

That leaves very slim pickings.

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Re: [DNG] I hope one *can* use a CDROM?

2018-04-04 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
 
> It's an old machine with a PS2 port.

At a guess, isn't the CD-ROM optical drive of which you speak an ATAPI
drive on a PATA ('IDE') chain?

If so, distro support requires installation kernel support for your
motherboard PATA chipset and ATAPI, which is a pretty minimal
requirement, IMO.  Suggestion:  Try and see.

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Re: [DNG] I hope one *can* use a CDROM?

2018-04-04 Thread Didier Kryn

Le 05/04/2018 à 04:20, Hendrik Boom a écrit :

On Thu, Apr 05, 2018 at 03:40:55AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:

On Wed, Apr 04, 2018 at 08:06:10PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:

I hope fixing this doesn't disable the CDROM and that ascii or jessie
will still install from a CDROM when you *have* a CDROM.

Ascii and Jessie are Stretch and Jessie respectively, both of which have CD
as the _primary_ install method (USB storage being just dumb wasteful
emulation that doesn't allow any goodies a writeable medium would allow).
There are no plans to change this for Buster, either.

On the other hand, I for one haven't owned a machine equipped with a CD
drive in like a decade (and DVD or BD: never), although I do have a few
drives in the junk pile, briefly attached one last year to help a relative
to sort through old stuff.  CD/DVD/BD drives are hardware that's already
rare and will become unheard of very shortly.


My machine's USB has died.

Then how do you attach peripherals?  New boxes don't tend to come with a
PS2 port anymore.

It's an old machine with a PS2 port.  I've been planning to replace it
with a modern system, but I can't bring myself to buy a machine with
malware known to be built into the hardware.

That leaves very slim pickings.


    I guess you can buy some PCI-USB interface and plug it in.

            Didier

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