[DNG] Broken package version numbers in ascii

2017-12-26 Thread J. Fahrner
After upgrading from Devuan Jessie to Devuan Ascii, I found that some 
packages were not properly upgraded because of wrong version numbers. 
Example: desktop-base is version 1:0.99 in ascii, but had a higher 
version number in Jessie before, so the dist-upgrade kept the Jessie 
version.


I cleaned those packages with synaptic, downgraded such packages to the 
"testing" version, or removed and reinstalled these, where a downgrade 
was not possible because of dependencies.


I now have a clean ascii install without orphaned packages. But now I'm 
missing some Devuan theme files, like grub oder slim theme. Which 
package contains the Devuan theme files in ascii?


Jochen

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Re: [DNG] Broken package version numbers in ascii

2017-12-26 Thread J. Fahrner

Am 2017-12-26 17:37, schrieb J. Fahrner:


I now have a clean ascii install without orphaned packages. But now
I'm missing some Devuan theme files, like grub oder slim theme. Which
package contains the Devuan theme files in ascii?


I found my old netbook which yet has Jessie installed. The Jessie 
version of desktop-base is 1:1.2 and contains the slim theme. The Ascii 
version is 1:0.99 and does NOT contain the slim theme.


Jochen
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Re: [DNG] Broken package version numbers in ascii

2017-12-26 Thread fsmithred
On 12/26/2017 11:57 AM, J. Fahrner wrote:
> Am 2017-12-26 17:37, schrieb J. Fahrner:
> 
>> I now have a clean ascii install without orphaned packages. But now
>> I'm missing some Devuan theme files, like grub oder slim theme. Which
>> package contains the Devuan theme files in ascii?
> 
> I found my old netbook which yet has Jessie installed. The Jessie version
> of desktop-base is 1:1.2 and contains the slim theme. The Ascii version is
> 1:0.99 and does NOT contain the slim theme.
> 
> Jochen

The new version of desktop-base for ascii will probably be version 2.0,
and it should be in the repo soon. (within a couple of days, I think.) You
will be able to upgrade from either the jessie version or the old ascii
version.

You could use the jessie version (1.2) and the
clearlooks-phenix-purpy-theme, but some elements of the theme won't work
right because of gtk3.

fsmithred


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[DNG] eudev missing dependency

2017-12-26 Thread J. Fahrner

Hi,

udevd calls mtp-probe:

udevd[436]: failed to execute '/lib/udev/mtp-probe' 'mtp-probe 
/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:14.0/usb3/3-4 3 2': No such file or 
directory


mtp-probe is contained in libmtp-runtime, so eudev should have a 
dependency to libmtp-runtime.


Jochen


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[DNG] eudev naming of network interfaces

2017-12-26 Thread J. Fahrner

Hi,
is there some problem with the naming of network interfaces?

I have the following lines in my boot log:

Sat Dec 23 10:41:48 2017: [] Configuring network 
interfaces...ifquery: unknown interface eth0

Sat Dec 23 10:41:48 2017: ifup: unknown interface eth0
Sat Dec 23 10:41:48 2017: FAIL failed.

My /etc/network/interfaces contains no eth0:

# This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
# and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback



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Re: [DNG] eudev naming of network interfaces

2017-12-26 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 171226-19:17+0100, J. Fahrner wrote:
> Hi,
> is there some problem with the naming of network interfaces?
> 
> I have the following lines in my boot log:
> 
> Sat Dec 23 10:41:48 2017: [] Configuring network interfaces...ifquery:
> unknown interface eth0
> Sat Dec 23 10:41:48 2017: ifup: unknown interface eth0
> Sat Dec 23 10:41:48 2017: FAIL failed.
> 
> My /etc/network/interfaces contains no eth0:
> 
> # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
> # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
> 
> # The loopback network interface
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback

What ethers you have? Try:

# ip l show

and get back with the output. If no ethers recognized: drivers missing?

The ethN (where N can be 0,1... ) has been discussed a few times over on this 
ML. Try searching on 
https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng (included in all 
mails)

E.g. the important file is:

/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
(comments there to read)

I have eudev, and I always set that file up manually to my liking. 

I also have:

# cat /etc/default/grub | grep ifnames
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="net.ifnames=0"
#

to rid me of stupid --and non-persistent, falsely claiming to be persistent-- 
naming.

-- 
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Zagreb, Croatia
https://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr


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Re: [DNG] eudev naming of network interfaces

2017-12-26 Thread Svante Signell
On Tue, 2017-12-26 at 19:17 +0100, J. Fahrner wrote:
> Hi,
> is there some problem with the naming of network interfaces?
> 
> I have the following lines in my boot log:
> 
> Sat Dec 23 10:41:48 2017: [] Configuring network 
> interfaces...ifquery: unknown interface eth0
> Sat Dec 23 10:41:48 2017: ifup: unknown interface eth0
> Sat Dec 23 10:41:48 2017: FAIL failed.
> 
> My /etc/network/interfaces contains no eth0:
> 
> # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
> # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
> 
> # The loopback network interface
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback

Please state which version of eudev you have installed.
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Re: [DNG] eudev naming of network interfaces

2017-12-26 Thread J. Fahrner

Am 2017-12-26 19:47, schrieb Svante Signell:


Sat Dec 23 10:41:48 2017: [] Configuring network 
interfaces...ifquery: unknown interface eth0
Sat Dec 23 10:41:48 2017: ifup: unknown interface eth0
Sat Dec 23 10:41:48 2017: FAIL failed.




Please state which version of eudev you have installed.


eudev 3.2.2-9 from Ascii.
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Re: [DNG] eudev naming of network interfaces

2017-12-26 Thread J. Fahrner

Am 2017-12-26 19:41, schrieb Miroslav Rovis:

What ethers you have? Try:

# ip l show


$ ip l show
1: lo:  mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode 
DEFAULT group default qlen 1

link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: eth0:  mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast 
state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000

link/ether 3c:97:0e:cb:ce:d7 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: wwan0:  mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN mode 
DEFAULT group default qlen 1000

link/ether 26:77:58:61:50:ac brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
4: wlan0:  mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP 
mode DORMANT group default qlen 1000

link/ether 6c:88:14:9d:7d:70 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

eth0 works normal in network-manager. The error is only during boot. I'm 
wondering why ifup tries to activate eth0, since this is not in 
/etc/network/interfaces. Where does this info come from, that it should 
enable eth0? Does it come from udevd?

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Re: [DNG] eudev naming of network interfaces

2017-12-26 Thread Miroslav Rovis
On 171226-20:04+0100, J. Fahrner wrote:
> Am 2017-12-26 19:41, schrieb Miroslav Rovis:
> > What ethers you have? Try:
> > 
> > # ip l show
> 
> $ ip l show
> 1: lo:  mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode
> DEFAULT group default qlen 1
> link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
> 2: eth0:  mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state
> DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
> link/ether 3c:97:0e:cb:ce:d7 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> 3: wwan0:  mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT
> group default qlen 1000
> link/ether 26:77:58:61:50:ac brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> 4: wlan0:  mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode
> DORMANT group default qlen 1000
> link/ether 6c:88:14:9d:7d:70 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
So the drivers are compiled fine and working.
 
> eth0 works normal in network-manager.
I don't use network-manager.
> The error is only during boot. I'm
> wondering why ifup tries to activate eth0, since this is not in
> /etc/network/interfaces. Where does this info come from, that it should
> enable eth0? Does it come from udevd?
Dunno. Look up:

/etc/init.d/networking
/etc/default/networking
/run/network/*

for clues...

Ah, I remember on Gentoo (long months ago now that I'm not running it), if you 
didn't want an interface, or wanted no interface, we could set it up in the 
conf file of our package which was/is called netifrc IIRC.

Maybe you shouldn't just leave /etc/network/interfaces completely 
unconfigured... But don't know.

BTW I'm running Ceres, which is probably certainly less comfortable than Ascii, 
a suspected bugs here and there (never yet time enough to study them and report 
them --it's also insfufficient knowledge--), or simply incompletenesses... I 
hoped otherwise, but Ceres almost looks to big to me to digest :-( . Will still 
be trying to sort it for a little while longer...

Regards!
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Zagreb, Croatia
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Re: [DNG] eudev naming of network interfaces

2017-12-26 Thread Ralph Ronnquist

J. Fahrner wrote on 27/12/17 06:04:

[snio]
eth0 works normal in network-manager. The error is only during boot. I'm
wondering why ifup tries to activate eth0, since this is not in
/etc/network/interfaces. Where does this info come from, that it should
enable eth0? Does it come from udevd?


Yes, eudev has code to test the interfaces from 80-ifupdown.rules, which 
causes /lib/idev/ifupdown-hotplug to run, and that will use ifquery for 
checking whether the interface concerned has an allow-hotplug in 
/etc/network/interfaces.


I would guess that your machine offers a race between the kernel 
establishing the interfaces, and the running of ifquery, since the 
latter can't find the eventually existing eth0. That's the beauty of 
parallelism in the bootstrap.


Assuming the log shows that error systematically, you might test the 
situation by adding in a "sleep 1" at the top of 
/lib/udev/ifupdown-hotplug, which should make the error go away. If not, 
I'm wrong.


If you can "confirm" the problem, please lodge a bug report.

Ralph.
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[DNG] repository clashes

2017-12-26 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky
Hello,

can someone provide me with proper and full repository list for ascii,
including proposed updates, security, updates and backports?
I am noticing some strange behavior with packages.devuan.org/devuan and
auto.mirror.devuan.org/merged - not all packages available in both repos so
I guess I need to have both enabled?
For example, some packages are available in the former while rsyslog with
its dependecies - only in the latter.

So what would be the proper and the complete repository list for ascii,
including contrib and non-free packages?

-- 
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[DNG] Request file system reviews and recomendations.

2017-12-26 Thread Hendrik Boom
As I understand it, there are a few new file systems somewhat 
available on Linux -- ZFS, XFS, and Btrfs.

But soe are still under development, ZFS is pparently under a 
prolematic license, and I don't know about XFS.

I've onece heard about one of the new systems that one shouldn't 
bother using it unless one has at least 8 gigabytes of RAM.

Now, just how mature are these, how easily managed, how reliable.

I'll be populating a new device with a (I hope) high-reliablity file 
system soon.  It doesn't have a lot of RAM, but the RAM does have 
parity checking.

Long-term data preservation is more important than speed.

Currently on another system I'm using ext4 over LLVM over software 
RAID-1.  I know RAID isn't a reliable backup system; I make separate 
off-line backups.

What should I be considering for the new system?  The same?  Are the 
new systems stale and well enough established in the Linux ecosystem 
to be candidates?

-- hendrik


On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 04:13:34PM +0100, Jaromil wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Dec 2017, Chris Dos wrote:
> 
> > Know nothing about zfs?  Well, don't start learning it as you will probably
> > not want to use anything else.
> 
> I confirm this :^) real pity for the licensing... but yea, btrfs still
> can't cover all functionalities of ZFS, just some. I run a ZRAID since
> years and wow.
> 
> cheers
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Re: [DNG] Request file system reviews and recomendations.

2017-12-26 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):

> As I understand it, there are a few new file systems somewhat 
> available on Linux -- ZFS, XFS, and Btrfs.
> 
> But soe are still under development, ZFS is pparently under a 
> prolematic license, and I don't know about XFS.
> 
> I've onece heard about one of the new systems that one shouldn't 
> bother using it unless one has at least 8 gigabytes of RAM.
> 
> Now, just how mature are these, how easily managed, how reliable.
> 
> I'll be populating a new device with a (I hope) high-reliablity file 
> system soon.  It doesn't have a lot of RAM, but the RAM does have 
> parity checking.
> 
> Long-term data preservation is more important than speed.
> 
> Currently on another system I'm using ext4 over LLVM over software 
> RAID-1.  I know RAID isn't a reliable backup system; I make separate 
> off-line backups.

Specifically, RAID isn't backup at all.  It's redundancy (except for
varieties like RAID0 that aren't even that).  See:  'Backup Fallacies /
Pitfalls' on http://linuxmafia.com/kb/Admin/

> What should I be considering for the new system?  The same?  

You've just asked one of the more inherently debatable questions in all
of Linux system administration.

I can only recommend that you study what the strengths and weaknesses,
advantages and disadvantages, are of the various options at hand, and
then design a system that implements your choices.

For my own home server rebuild, I'm going with ext4, with all
filesystems RAID1-mirrored across a pair of SSDs, and a weekly cron job
applying TRIM.  No swap (because SSDs).

XFS is mainline kernel code under GPLv2.  It is particularly good for
filesystems with mny very large files, e.g., audio/video.  It isn't 
quite as fast and massively QAed as ext3/ext4 (though the performance
difference is smaller than it used to be) .  XFS is _not_ new.  SGI
ported it to Linux in 2000.  Like ext3/ext4 and unlike ZFS/btrfs, XFS
lacks checksum protection against silent data corruption.

ZFS is indeed under a GPLv2-incompatible licence[1] (CDDL).  It's the one
that requires larger RAM overhead, but has a number of very compelling
features[2] especially for extremely large (multi-terabyte) filesystems.
The driver code is (obviously) not part of the mainline kernel, but
rather runnable either as a large external patchset or as a FUSE
Filesystem in Userspace subsystem.  The latter has a performance
penalty.  The former... entails running an out-of-tree kernel.

btrfs is still scarily beta after rather a lot of years of development.
Its prospects have dimmed further now that Red Hat have dropped it from
their roadmap.


[1] Canonical, Ltd. have asserted their recent distribution of
binary-compiled ZFS module code for Ubuntu to be lawful.  My
interpretation is that they know this is false, that it is clearly 
copyright infringement, but have taken a calculated risk that kernel
stakeholders won't sue them, and that the Linux-using public won't
object overly to Canonical lying to them for PR advantage.

[2] Volume manager is integrated into the filesystmem.  Snapshots and
replication built in.  All storage kept vetted by checksumming and as
necessary corrected.  Automated self-healing.  Smarter data-striping
('ZRAID') than conventional RAID modes.  Native data compression /
deduping (which, however, is RAM-hungry).  And a lot more: It's pretty
impressive.
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Re: [DNG] Request file system reviews and recomendations.

2017-12-26 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 05:20:58PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
> 
> > As I understand it, there are a few new file systems somewhat 
> > available on Linux -- ZFS, XFS, and Btrfs.
> > 
> > But soe are still under development, ZFS is pparently under a 
> > prolematic license, and I don't know about XFS.
> > 
> > I've onece heard about one of the new systems that one shouldn't 
> > bother using it unless one has at least 8 gigabytes of RAM.
> > 
> > Now, just how mature are these, how easily managed, how reliable.
> > 
> > I'll be populating a new device with a (I hope) high-reliablity file 
> > system soon.  It doesn't have a lot of RAM, but the RAM does have 
> > parity checking.
> > 
> > Long-term data preservation is more important than speed.
> > 
> > Currently on another system I'm using ext4 over LLVM over software 
> > RAID-1.  I know RAID isn't a reliable backup system; I make separate 
> > off-line backups.
> 
> Specifically, RAID isn't backup at all.  It's redundancy (except for
> varieties like RAID0 that aren't even that).  See:  'Backup Fallacies /
> Pitfalls' on http://linuxmafia.com/kb/Admin/

It's not backup in any normally robust sense of the word.  It does 
provide a bit of backup against one potential threat -- minor 
localized hard drive failures.  That's why I also keep separate 
off-line backups.

> 
> > What should I be considering for the new system?  The same?  
> 
> You've just asked one of the more inherently debatable questions in all
> of Linux system administration.

I know.

> 
> I can only recommend that you study what the strengths and weaknesses,
> advantages and disadvantages, are of the various options at hand, and
> then design a system that implements your choices.
> 
> For my own home server rebuild, I'm going with ext4, with all
> filesystems RAID1-mirrored across a pair of SSDs, and a weekly cron job
> applying TRIM.  No swap (because SSDs).

TRIM because SSDs?

> 
> XFS is mainline kernel code under GPLv2.  It is particularly good for
> filesystems with mny very large files, e.g., audio/video.  It isn't 
> quite as fast and massively QAed as ext3/ext4 (though the performance
> difference is smaller than it used to be) .  XFS is _not_ new.  SGI
> ported it to Linux in 2000.  Like ext3/ext4 and unlike ZFS/btrfs, XFS
> lacks checksum protection against silent data corruption.

I like the checksum protection of ZFS and btrfs.  If I could get it 
with ext4 I'd be happy.

> ZFS is indeed under a GPLv2-incompatible licence[1] (CDDL).  It's the one
> that requires larger RAM overhead, but has a number of very compelling
> features[2] especially for extremely large (multi-terabyte) filesystems.
> The driver code is (obviously) not part of the mainline kernel, but
> rather runnable either as a large external patchset or as a FUSE
> Filesystem in Userspace subsystem.  The latter has a performance
> penalty.  The former... entails running an out-of-tree kernel.

I'll have about half a gig of RAM.  Does this rule out ZFS or just 
make it moderately slower?  I'm not going to be running millions of 
transactions a day on my home server.

> 
> btrfs is still scarily beta after rather a lot of years of development.
> Its prospects have dimmed further now that Red Hat have dropped it from
> their roadmap.

Scarily beta, yes.  I'd consider it if it ever stops being scarily 
beta.

> 
> 
> [1] Canonical, Ltd. have asserted their recent distribution of
> binary-compiled ZFS module code for Ubuntu to be lawful.  My
> interpretation is that they know this is false, that it is clearly 
> copyright infringement, but have taken a calculated risk that kernel
> stakeholders won't sue them, and that the Linux-using public won't
> object overly to Canonical lying to them for PR advantage.
> 
> [2] Volume manager is integrated into the filesystmem.  Snapshots and
> replication built in.  All storage kept vetted by checksumming and as
> necessary corrected.  Automated self-healing.  Smarter data-striping
> ('ZRAID') than conventional RAID modes.  Native data compression /
> deduping (which, however, is RAM-hungry).  And a lot more: It's pretty
> impressive.



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Re: [DNG] Request file system reviews and recomendations.

2017-12-26 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):

[RAID1:]

> It's not backup in any normally robust sense of the word.  It does 
> provide a bit of backup against one potential threat -- minor 
> localized hard drive failures.  

Which is properly called rendundancy, in contrast to backup.  (You might
continue to choose to differ, in which case we agree to disagree,
please.)

> That's why I also keep separate off-line backups.

Which is properly called backup.  ;->

> TRIM because SSDs?

That's what TRIM (capitalised not as an acronym but rather because it's
a style convention for the names of ATA commands) applies to.  Your
question lacks context and clarity as stated, so I don't know whether
you're saying you are fundamentally unfamiliar with the issue.  You
might be saying that.  If you are:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trim_(computing)
https://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/ata/libata-core.c#n4519

Also covers block alignment and other issues raised by SSD.

> I like the checksum protection of ZFS and btrfs.  If I could get it 
> with ext4 I'd be happy.

Don't hold you breath waiting.  ;->

> I'll have about half a gig of RAM.  Does this rule out ZFS or just 
> make it moderately slower?  I'm not going to be running millions of 
> transactions a day on my home server.

I'm pretty sure it totally rules out ZFS.  The usual RAM suggestions 
start at 8GB, and go upwards from there.  It's possible to have a
crawling^W running system with less (like, as low as 1GB), but you
wouldn't like it.

[btrfs:]

> Scarily beta, yes.  I'd consider it if it ever stops being scarily 
> beta.

Don't hold you breath waiting.

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Re: [DNG] Request file system reviews and recomendations.

2017-12-26 Thread Josef Grosch
On 12/26/17 6:22 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 05:20:58PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
>> Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com):
>>
[ DELETED ]
>
> I'll have about half a gig of RAM.  Does this rule out ZFS or just 
> make it moderately slower?  I'm not going to be running millions of 
> transactions a day on my home server.

I am a long time user of ZFS on FreeBSD, Ubuntu, and Debian. This is my 
opinion. My opinion and $5.00 will get you a Happy Meal. 

A good place to start is ZFS On Linux (http://zfsonlinux.org/) This project is 
being run by the bright boys and girls at Lawrence Livermore National Lab, our 
tax dollars at work. Yes, it is covered by a GPLv2-incompatible licence[1] 
(CDDL), but I consider the advantages of ZFS enough to ignore the license 
issue. I mostly run Debian and ZFS works like a charm.

The minimum amount of RAM you need to run ZFS is 8 gb BUT you will not be 
happy. Realistically you should have a minimum of 16 gb. My ZFS at home has 64 
gb and is quite happy. Also you must be running a 64 bit OS. Another point to 
keep in mind is that with RaidZ1 (RAID5) or RaidZ2 (RAID6) should never get 
above 80% usage. 

[ DELETED ]



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Re: [DNG] eudev naming of network interfaces

2017-12-26 Thread J. Fahrner

Am 2017-12-26 23:56, schrieb Ralph Ronnquist:

Yes, eudev has code to test the interfaces from 80-ifupdown.rules,
which causes /lib/idev/ifupdown-hotplug to run, and that will use
ifquery for checking whether the interface concerned has an
allow-hotplug in /etc/network/interfaces.


Thanks for that explanation. And sorry, the problem is away after 
removing eth0 from /etc/network/interfaces. It was my fault that I did 
not realize that. I only saw a red message appearing on boot screen, and 
I didn't realize that bootlogd appends to /var/log/boot instead of 
writing a new log on each boot. So I didn't realize that I was looking 
at old messages ;-)

The remaining red message comes from another problem. See my next post.

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[DNG] udev-finish: No such file or directory

2017-12-26 Thread J. Fahrner

Hi,
after upgrading to Ascii I have the following failure on boot. Any ideas 
what's causing this?


Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [info] Loading kernel module lp.
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [info] Loading kernel module ppdev.
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [info] Loading kernel module parport_pc.
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [ ok ] Cleaning up temporary files... /tmp.
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [ ok ] Mounting local filesystems...done.
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [ ok ] Activating swapfile swap...done.
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [ ok ] Cleaning up temporary files
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: udev-finish: No such file or directory
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [ ok ] Setting kernel variables...done.
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [ ok ] Configuring network interfaces...done.
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [ ok ] Cleaning up temporary files
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [ ok ] Setting up ALSA...done.
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [ ok ] Setting up X socket directories... 
/tmp/.X11-unix /tmp/.ICE-unix.
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [FAIL] startpar: service(s) returned failure: 
udev udev-finish ... failed!


Jochen
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Re: [DNG] udev-finish: No such file or directory

2017-12-26 Thread Ralph Ronnquist


J. Fahrner wrote on 27/12/17 17:41:

Hi,
after upgrading to Ascii I have the following failure on boot. Any ideas
what's causing this?

Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [info] Loading kernel module lp.
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [info] Loading kernel module ppdev.
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [info] Loading kernel module parport_pc.
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [ ok ] Cleaning up temporary files... /tmp.
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [ ok ] Mounting local filesystems...done.
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [ ok ] Activating swapfile swap...done.
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [ ok ] Cleaning up temporary files
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: udev-finish: No such file or directory
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [ ok ] Setting kernel variables...done.
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [ ok ] Configuring network interfaces...done.
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [ ok ] Cleaning up temporary files
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [ ok ] Setting up ALSA...done.
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [ ok ] Setting up X socket directories...
/tmp/.X11-unix /tmp/.ICE-unix.
Wed Dec 27 07:24:25 2017: [FAIL] startpar: service(s) returned failure:
udev udev-finish ... failed!


Probably you have the dangling link /etc/rcS.d/S11udev-finish (or 
similar), which would be a remnant from the udev package, and it should 
have been removed when udev was removed.


Possibly there is also a dangling /etc/rcS.d/S02udev.

It's unclear to me why it gets left, but I had them too.

Ralph.
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Re: [DNG] udev-finish: No such file or directory

2017-12-26 Thread J. Fahrner

Am 2017-12-27 07:57, schrieb Ralph Ronnquist:

Probably you have the dangling link /etc/rcS.d/S11udev-finish (or
similar), which would be a remnant from the udev package, and it
should have been removed when udev was removed.

Possibly there is also a dangling /etc/rcS.d/S02udev.

It's unclear to me why it gets left, but I had them too.


Thank you very much! That solved it! Now my bootlog is clean :-)
Strange: that only happend on 1 of my 3 upgraded systems.

Jochen
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