Re: [DNG] Installing & running eudev broke USB drives auto-listing in Thunar.
Dear Svante, On 09/12/17 00:55, Svante Signell wrote: Hi again, What about fixing your computer clock (again). This was sent Fri, 2017- 12-08 at 01:23 +0100 and now is Sat Dec 9 01:49:45 CET 2017., i.e. Sat, 09 Dec 2017 01:49:45 +0100 You are a day behind:( You are right... I sent quite annoying messages in the past, most of them during the 2021-2025 old years. I'm aware, and i beg your pardon (again). Earlier you were far ahead, from an old email with subject: Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan Jessie Beta Live Minimal Thu, 04 Mar 2021 01:11:19 +0100 2021 and i still didn't received any t-shirt? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Counting 'l's
On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 06:23:46PM +, aitor_czr wrote: > Dear Svante, > > On 02/12/17 20:49, Svante Signelll wrote: > > No need to be harsh..., it was just a typo. And you made up for the missing 'l' by adding an extra one into the 'On 02/12/17 20:49' line! -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] two dhcp configurations
Somehow I have two dhcp configuration files: /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf and /etc/dhcpd.conf on my Devuan Jessie system, which was upgraded from Debian preJessie (I forget what that one was called) They have similar, but not identical contents. Both have had items added locally to define permanent IP numbers, and not quite the same ones. Which one of these should I be updating? And which should I remove? Or is the story or complicated than that? -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] two dhcp configurations
Hendrik Boom wrote: > Somehow I have two dhcp configuration files: > > /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf > > and > > /etc/dhcpd.conf > > on my Devuan Jessie system, which was upgraded from Debian preJessie > (I forget what that one was called) Wheezy > They have similar, but not identical contents. Both have had items > added locally to define permanent IP numbers, and not quite the > same ones. > > Which one of these should I be updating? And which should I remove? > Or is the story or complicated than that? Dunno where one has come from, but the standard layout for the ISC server is to use /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf - /etc/dhcp/ also contains config files for the client is installed. IIRC, if you restart the server, it will include the config file path in syslog. In any case, you could always try renaming one and see if the service still works ! ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] two dhcp configurations
On 09-12-17 22:34, Hendrik Boom wrote: Somehow I have two dhcp configuration files: /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf and /etc/dhcpd.conf on my Devuan Jessie system, which was upgraded from Debian preJessie (I forget what that one was called) They have similar, but not identical contents. Both have had items added locally to define permanent IP numbers, and not quite the same ones. Which one of these should I be updating? And which should I remove? Or is the story or complicated than that? -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng On Jessie upgraded from Debian Jessie i do have neither files but /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf exists so i suppose you should use /etc/dhcp/dhcp.conf Grtz. Nick ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] two dhcp configurations
On Sat, Dec 09, 2017 at 10:53:01PM +0100, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: > On 09-12-17 22:34, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >Somehow I have two dhcp configuration files: > > > >/etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf > > > >and > > > >/etc/dhcpd.conf > > > >on my Devuan Jessie system, which was upgraded from Debian preJessie > >(I forget what that one was called) > > > >They have similar, but not identical contents. Both have had items > >added locally to define permanent IP numbers, and not quite the > >same ones. > > > >Which one of these should I be updating? And which should I remove? > >Or is the story or complicated than that? > > > >-- hendrik > > > >___ > >Dng mailing list > >Dng@lists.dyne.org > >https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > > On Jessie upgraded from Debian Jessie i do have neither files but > /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf exists so i suppose you should use > /etc/dhcp/dhcp.conf maybe because you don't have a dhcp *server* installed :) HND KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] two dhcp configurations
On Saturday 09 December 2017 at 22:34:34, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Somehow I have two dhcp configuration files: > > /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf > > and > > /etc/dhcpd.conf > > on my Devuan Jessie system, which was upgraded from Debian preJessie > (I forget what that one was called) > > They have similar, but not identical contents. Both have had items > added locally to define permanent IP numbers, and not quite the > same ones. So, choose one of those corresponding to a machine on your network, find out what IP address it has, and you'll know which configuration file was used to allocate it. > Which one of these should I be updating? And which should I remove? > Or is the story or complicated than that? No, you should only have one (and my bet is that /etc/dhcpd.conf is the bogus one). Antony. -- Schrödinger's rule of data integrity: the condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted. Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] two dhcp configurations
On Sat, Dec 09, 2017 at 04:34:34PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Somehow I have two dhcp configuration files: > > /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf > > and > > /etc/dhcpd.conf > $ apt-file search dhcpd.conf says that the former comes from isc-dhcp-server (as someone else suggested) while the latter does not belong to any package in particular, so it must have been put there by you (or by an older package that does not exist eny more, who knows?). My2Cents KatolaZ -- [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] two dhcp configurations
On Sat, Dec 09, 2017 at 10:51:04PM +, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sat, Dec 09, 2017 at 04:34:34PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Somehow I have two dhcp configuration files: > > > > /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf > > > > and > > > > /etc/dhcpd.conf > > > > > $ apt-file search dhcpd.conf > > says that the former comes from isc-dhcp-server (as someone else > suggested) while the latter does not belong to any package in > particular, so it must have been put there by you (or by an older > package that does not exist eny more, who knows?). Thanks. Discussion here seems pretty inequivocal. It seems I've been editing the wrong one. Easy to fix. > > My2Cents > > KatolaZ > > -- > [ ~.,_ Enzo Nicosia aka KatolaZ - Devuan -- Freaknet Medialab ] > [ "+. katolaz [at] freaknet.org --- katolaz [at] yahoo.it ] > [ @) http://kalos.mine.nu --- Devuan GNU + Linux User ] > [ @@) http://maths.qmul.ac.uk/~vnicosia -- GPG: 0B5F062F ] > [ (@@@) Twitter: @KatolaZ - skype: katolaz -- github: KatolaZ ] > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] two dhcp configurations
On Sat, 2017-12-09 at 22:51 +, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sat, Dec 09, 2017 at 04:34:34PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Somehow I have two dhcp configuration files: /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf and /etc/dhcpd.conf > > > $ apt-file search dhcpd.conf > > says that the former comes from isc-dhcp-server (as someone else > suggested) while the latter does not belong to any package in > particular, so it must have been put there by you (or by an older > package that does not exist eny more, who knows?). You can also check with dpkg -S /etc/dhcpd.conf and dpkg -S /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf to find out where these files belong:) If they are not found they are conffiles for some package. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Installing & running eudev broke USB drives auto-listing in Thunar.
On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 11:06:05 + aitor_czr wrote: > > What about fixing your computer clock (again). This was sent Fri, > > 2017- 12-08 at 01:23 +0100 and now is Sat Dec 9 01:49:45 CET > > 2017., i.e. Sat, 09 Dec 2017 01:49:45 +0100 You are a day behind:( > > You are right... I sent quite annoying messages in the past, most of > them during the 2021-2025 old years. > I'm aware, and i beg your pardon (again). LOL, Aitor. In the old days I used to write you about this constantly, onlist and off. Your posts were a PITA because they sorted to the bottom of my DNG folder weeks afterwards. And yet the content of your messages were vital: I couldn't send you to /dev/null like most email obfuscators. So instead I gave you YOUR OWN FOLDER, called "badformat", right below the DNG folder. There, I can read all your messages, and they sort where they may. I have the best of both worlds: I read your posts, but they don't gum up my folders. SteveT Steve Litt December 2017 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Installing & running eudev broke USB drives auto-listing in Thunar.
On Sat, 2017-12-09 at 19:24 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 11:06:05 + > aitor_czr wrote: > > > > > What about fixing your computer clock (again). This was sent Fri, > > > 2017- 12-08 at 01:23 +0100 and now is Sat Dec 9 01:49:45 CET > > > 2017., i.e. Sat, 09 Dec 2017 01:49:45 +0100 You are a day > > > behind:( > > > > You are right... I sent quite annoying messages in the past, most > > of them during the 2021-2025 old years. > > I'm aware, and i beg your pardon (again). Hi Steve, Nice of you to write this message. Just one nitpcick: This mail contains: On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 11:06:05 + > aitor_czr wrote: and the quote should have been: On Sat, 2017-12-09 at 11:06 +, aitor_czr wrote: > Dear Svante, > On 09/12/17 00:55, Svante Signell wrote: ... Is your MUA broken too?? Otherwise you should not have kept: What about fixing your computer clock (again). This was sent Fri, > > > 2017- 12-08 at 01:23 +0100 and now is Sat Dec 9 01:49:45 CET > > > 2017., i.e. Sat, 09 Dec 2017 01:49:45 +0100 You are a day > > > behind:( Well, quoting is not easy, but your mailer could have helped you (if it is sane) :D ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Installing & running eudev broke USB drives auto-listing in Thunar.
On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 01:39:47 +0100 Svante Signell wrote: > On Sat, 2017-12-09 at 19:24 -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 11:06:05 + > > aitor_czr wrote: > > > > > > > > What about fixing your computer clock (again). This was sent > > > > Fri, 2017- 12-08 at 01:23 +0100 and now is Sat Dec 9 01:49:45 > > > > CET 2017., i.e. Sat, 09 Dec 2017 01:49:45 +0100 You are a day > > > > behind:( > > > > > > You are right... I sent quite annoying messages in the past, most > > > of them during the 2021-2025 old years. > > > I'm aware, and i beg your pardon (again). > > Hi Steve, > > Nice of you to write this message. Just one nitpcick: > > This mail contains: > On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 11:06:05 + > > aitor_czr wrote: > > and the quote should have been: > On Sat, 2017-12-09 at 11:06 +, aitor_czr wrote: > > Dear Svante, > > On 09/12/17 00:55, Svante Signell wrote: > ... > Is your MUA broken too?? > > Otherwise you should not have kept: > What about fixing your computer clock (again). This was sent Fri, > > > > 2017- 12-08 at 01:23 +0100 and now is Sat Dec 9 01:49:45 CET > > > > 2017., i.e. Sat, 09 Dec 2017 01:49:45 +0100 You are a day > > > > behind:( > > Well, quoting is not easy, but your mailer could have helped you (if > it is sane) :D > Hi Svante, I chose not to leave in the attribution to your contribution, because all that contribution did was provide a backdrop for what Aitor said, which was the real story. I made the calculation that the slight shortening was more beneficial than the slight ambiguity was problematic. And now for my netiquette nit, addressed to all list inhabitants... Don't email me and copy the list. Don't email the list and copy me. I'm on the list. If you post to the list, it comes right to me. And a single post to the list makes it MUCH easier for me to reply: I don't have to change my To: line. SteveT Steve Litt December 2017 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times http://www.troubleshooters.com/thrive ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Installing & running eudev broke USB drives auto-listing in Thunar.
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > And now for my netiquette nit, addressed to all list inhabitants... > > Don't email me and copy the list. Don't email the list and copy me. In fairness, some MUAs (such as mutt) make it easy to comply with this request. Many do not. mutt makes it easy because of its special functions for handling list-reply, in which it recognises that a mailing list is among the recipients and strips the others. People with old-fashioned MUAs implementing reply-all without list-handling heuristics cannot comply except through the respondent manually removing offlist CCs. Unfortunately, this situation persists because SMTP, unlike NNTP, never was designed for smoothly handling one-to-many mechanisms such as mailing lists. NNTP newsgroups (and newsreader software packages) have different heuristics for handling 'followups' (replies to the newsgroup) vs 'replies' (off-forums responses in SMTP mail). Pure SMTP has nothing quite like that. Because I use mutt and benefit from its list-reply functionality, I am able to give you what you desire in my replies to your mailing list posts. Many other people cannot except by fussy editing of headers during composition, which, let's be honest, will seldom happen. _However_, please note that my use of list-reply, even though it's what _you_ like, annoys other folks who _prefer_ a separate direct copy. Your best method of reliably getting you want, IMO, is to suppress duplicates. A standard method of doing so in procmail that's about as old as the dinosaurs: :0 Wh: msgid.lock | formail -D 8192 msgid.cache > And a single post to the list makes it MUCH easier for me to reply: I > don't have to change my To: line. If you used an MUA that supported proper list-reply, you wouldn't need to 'change your To: line', either. (I haven't checked headers to see if your MUA is revealed, there. If you _do_ use mutt, switch to doing list-reply.) ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Now only one dhcp configuration
On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 01:06:24AM +0100, Svante Signell wrote: > On Sat, 2017-12-09 at 22:51 +, KatolaZ wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 09, 2017 at 04:34:34PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > Somehow I have two dhcp configuration files: > > /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf > > and > > /etc/dhcpd.conf > > > > > > $ apt-file search dhcpd.conf > > > > says that the former comes from isc-dhcp-server (as someone else > > suggested) while the latter does not belong to any package in > > particular, so it must have been put there by you (or by an older > > package that does not exist eny more, who knows?). > > You can also check with > dpkg -S /etc/dhcpd.conf > and > dpkg -S /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf > to find out where these files belong:) This looks like a useful trick for the next time I have questions like this. BUt for now, I just moved a number of stanzas from /etc/dhcpd.conf to /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf and my printer (at least) now has the IP number I inended it to have. Thank you. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
