Re: [DNG] The Internet Wifi Daemon

2017-01-20 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 11:22:31 +1300
Daniel Reurich  wrote:

> On 19/01/17 05:30, Harald Arnesen wrote:
> > Hendrik Boom [2017-01-18 16:20]:
> >   
> >> I this ssomethnig we should be aware of?  It seems someone is in
> >> the process of replacing wpa_supplicant and a lot of the tools
> >> above it with new software, IWD, the Internet Wifi Daemon.
> >>
> >> https://www.linux.com/news/event/elce/2017/new-linux-wifi-daemon-streamlines-networking-stack
> >>   
> > 
> > As I understand it, this is just for Linux, while wpa_supplicant
> > works on the BSDs as well. If a cross-platform solution exists, I
> > would rather have that.
> >   
> If it's well implemented I expect that bringing the BSD's on board
> will be useful too.  I think that the approach is promising for a
> start.

I get worried when I hear that some software will "replace" other
software, rather than "here's some better software." Sounds a little
too Poetteresque to me, and why do I get the feeling Redhat's and
FreeDesktop's tenticles will be all over it?

Remember the days when you used to cheer improvements, because
improvements were made to make life better rather than monopolize?

SteveT

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Re: [DNG] The Internet Wifi Daemon

2017-01-20 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Fri, Jan 20, 2017 at 02:59:51AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jan 2017 11:22:31 +1300
> Daniel Reurich  wrote:
> 
> > On 19/01/17 05:30, Harald Arnesen wrote:
> > > Hendrik Boom [2017-01-18 16:20]:
> > >   
> > >> I this ssomethnig we should be aware of?  It seems someone is in
> > >> the process of replacing wpa_supplicant and a lot of the tools
> > >> above it with new software, IWD, the Internet Wifi Daemon.
> > >>
> > >> https://www.linux.com/news/event/elce/2017/new-linux-wifi-daemon-streamlines-networking-stack
> > >>   
> > > 
> > > As I understand it, this is just for Linux, while wpa_supplicant
> > > works on the BSDs as well. If a cross-platform solution exists, I
> > > would rather have that.
> > >   
> > If it's well implemented I expect that bringing the BSD's on board
> > will be useful too.  I think that the approach is promising for a
> > start.
> 
> I get worried when I hear that some software will "replace" other
> software, rather than "here's some better software." Sounds a little
> too Poetteresque to me, and why do I get the feeling Redhat's and
> FreeDesktop's tenticles will be all over it?

  Maybe because iwd was initially introduced at systemd.conf 2016?
https://cfp.systemd.io/en/systemdconf_2016/public/events/22

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[DNG] maintainers don't scale

2017-01-20 Thread Jaromil

hi all,

here a very interesting blog post which was reposted today on LWN

http://blog.ffwll.ch/2017/01/maintainers-dont-scale.html

worth reading, I think we can well learn something from it before
laying down future Devuan policies on "maintainership".

I wonder what's your experience and best practices

ciao



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[DNG] osprober will now detect Devuan installations

2017-01-20 Thread David Hare
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=801631

Not tested it yet but it's now marked as fixed. Devuan should now
display correctly in our grub menus without need for "hacks".

D
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[DNG] os-prober will now detect Devuan installations

2017-01-20 Thread David Hare
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=801631

Not tested it yet but it's now marked as fixed. Devuan should now
display correctly in grub menus without need for "hacks".

Cheers, D
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