[DNG] How to interrupt and select new mirror site during package download of Devuan insllation?
Hi, Few days ago I installed Devuan on a new PC I built. I started Devuan installation around 7:00 PM and finished it by 2:00 AM. I chose a domestic mirror server thinking it would provide fast package download. However, the package download took over seven hours which was extremely slow. The mirror server I used was kr.mirror.devuan.org. Apparently my internet connection speed becomes hopeless in the evening, which makes me getting other ISP. Regards, Hughe ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] How to interrupt and select new mirror site during package download of Devuan insllation?
On Sun, 04 Dec 2016 20:05:50 +0900 Hughe Chung wrote: > Few days ago I installed Devuan on a new PC I built. The easiest way would be to unplug the network cable. The resulting download error will enable you to return to the main menu where you can reconfigure the package manager... Libre Grüße, Florian ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan Beta Live
Great progress! Thank you everyone for all your efforts! On December 3, 2016 4:32:52 PM CST, fsmithred wrote: ::...and here is the entire link: :: ::https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/unofficial_devuan_live/ :: ::Sorry about that! :: ::-fsr :: ::___ ::Dng mailing list ::Dng@lists.dyne.org ::https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- Sent from a Mobile device.___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release
For those who haven't noticed yet: The Beta2 has hit slashdot (via theregister.co.uk), low level pillow fight included. https://linux.slashdot.org/story/16/12/04/0142242/devuans-systemd-free-linux-hits-beta-2 Libre Grüße, Florian ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Devuan Distrowatch - Development Release: Devuan GNU+Linux 1.0.0 Beta 2
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Re: [DNG] Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release
Yes, it's cute but sad to see all those defensive systemd-ers making their usual nonsense fuss. Ralph. Florian Zieboll wrote on 05/12/16 05:31: For those who haven't noticed yet: The Beta2 has hit slashdot (via theregister.co.uk), low level pillow fight included. https://linux.slashdot.org/story/16/12/04/0142242/devuans-systemd-free-linux-hits-beta-2 Libre Grüße, Florian ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] Systemd-Illness in procps.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Now we get that systemd illness in devuan too. Stealthy at the moment as procps is not broken until now but one after another. There is absolutely no reason to build procps against libsystemd and pull in all that shiny /usr/... namespace which makes systems unbootable in the end. ~> dpkg -L libprocps6 /. /lib /lib/i386-linux-gnu /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libprocps.so.6.0.0 /usr /usr/share /usr/share/doc /usr/share/doc/libprocps6 /usr/share/doc/libprocps6/NEWS.Debian.gz /usr/share/doc/libprocps6/changelog.Debian.gz /usr/share/doc/libprocps6/changelog.gz /usr/share/doc/libprocps6/copyright /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libprocps.so.6 ~> ldd /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libprocps.so.6.0.0 linux-gate.so.1 (0xb779b000) libsystemd.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libsystemd.so.0 (0xb76c) ^^ libdl.so.2 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0xb76bb000) libc.so.6 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0xb7504000) libselinux.so.1 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libselinux.so.1 (0xb74d7000) librt.so.1 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/librt.so.1 (0xb74ce000) liblzma.so.5 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/liblzma.so.5 (0xb74a2000) liblz4.so.1 => /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/liblz4.so.1 (0xb748f000) ^^ libgcrypt.so.20 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgcrypt.so.20 (0xb73c1000) libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xb73a1000) libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7384000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x8000d000) libpcre.so.3 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libpcre.so.3 (0xb730b000) libgpg-error.so.0 => /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgpg-error.so.0 (0xb72f5000) That is pulled in by intel-gpu-tools. By the way, other packages that are linked to libsystemd for no need or even worse: - - tor - - stunnel4 - - rpcbind - - rsyslog - - openvpn - - iodine Just to name some important out of "apt-cache rdepends libsystemd0". But not important as the procps as that is killing systems in the end. Regards Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16Klaus Ethgen Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Charset: ISO-8859-1 iQGzBAEBCgAdFiEEMWF28vh4/UMJJLQEpnwKsYAZ9qwFAlhEj7IACgkQpnwKsYAZ 9qxCBQwAg9732FxZiCbNPi4rX/Fj1Qf3rJzbwGwshb3lTVY32Vve/9l/Y+cFot5o XaHH4y48lxS4SDu5wIhOTA/QCVVwu3w9+WvK6vYEwpFxSoCqe4cr1IkHoYxnRvs8 K/qLshgYgNTVQwfeKL3v870+/McZEPr5xxE3DMcsX1OV8AI1di2Pxyz1LnLvOZiK i8Hmw85zM6ckYxELEeLF2NSh6Hvdp9ejw16cs4HjyFpM5HB/oWP3sEmDcZIb1dnK 7riX5o6aFKUOqeVlmdgAh65/MPg0QmltwkR8dXMCVX24GvUYSgyqtBwqPXQcpa/q IUYbVlRLGi4K+iQFzzbO5NndxaIk8qTk0EuaBQRdU4AIhse1IUtAaq8ihQzRy3DE EBTIg8jKNNNh5bwG8mefMN34FdOxV0g02hKjWbTW1VzSG1XVPgv9f0Z9y0jvNTVI OlfJJof1/As55DmJq2iiTSuN2QG1SopBiUA3OHh6IHLQ3O+eQCck8zLpak/Of1UX x8DJOIYD =DZ/n -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release
It pains me to say this, but the installation program for Devuan Beta2 is seriously broken. And I say this not as some kind of troll, but rather as a Devuan enthusiast who has already been running Devuan as my main system for six months. The whole problem is getting networking set up either during or after the install. Like the majority of computer users out there today, my main method for getting on the Internet is wifi. I have an Android phone which I never use as a phone (for talk), but rather as a wireless access point. Where I live it's faster than DSL and has the added advantage of being totally portable, ideal when I'm moving around with my laptop. Of course, local coffee shops all have free wifi as well. Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, the Devuan installer makes no provision for getting online via wifi. It seems that a hard wired Ethernet connection is required. That right there will eliminate about 75% of our potential users, but it gets worse. After finding a place where I could plug an Ethernet cable directly into a router, the Devuan installer could not do autoconfiguration using DHCP. That left me trying to set up networking manually by typing commands at the command line...eventually I thought I had that working and proceeded to install, only to find that I couldn't actually download anything and the installation failed. In my next attempt, I simply chose the option to install without having networking set up. This seemed to work - I completed installation, rebooted and had a nice shiny new Devuan desktop. Great...except that Wicd was not even installed, and thus I couldn't see any way to set up wifi. I then looked at the software package list for the Devuan CDs - Wicd deb packages are not included on the CD or Netinstall versions. I found that two Wicd packages are included on the DVD, so I downloaded that and used it to install again, also choosing to not set up networking during the install...result was that none of the Wicd packages installed. I even tried downloading (from another computer, of course) all the Wicd packages onto a USB stick and manually installing them on Devuan with dpkg, only to run into dependency hell. After about four hours of messing with all this, I finally gave up. Refracta saved the day! Thank goodness it exists, or else I would not be able to install Devuan on any of my machines. Please note that with Refracta, I did not need to set up networking at all during the installation, but Wicd was there on the first boot and getting wifi working was a piece of cake. If there's something I should have done during the Devuan install but I missed it, please let me know. However, I should point out that I am a very experienced Linux user, so if I couldn't set up networking on Devuan, I can only imagine what a fresh-faced newbie would think. Having said all that, I do want to emphasize that I am very grateful to everyone who has worked on this Devuan beta. It's actually a very good, stable system once you get it installed. It's the installer that is holding it back, and specifically it's the networking. Fix that, and then you've got all you need to make the 1.0 release. best regards to all, Robert ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Systemd-Illness in procps.
If there is no technical reason for it, is it spite? - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release
I wrote: > Refracta saved the day! Thank goodness it exists, or else I would > not be able to install Devuan on any of my machines. Please note > that with Refracta, I did not need to set up networking at all > during the installation, but Wicd was there on the first boot and > getting wifi working was a piece of cake. After I made this post, someone sent me a message to ask if I was using fsmithred's new "Unofficial Devuan Beta Live" iso or Refracta8 to install. I just thought I should clarify that I used the Refracta8 stable release. Specifically, this one: refracta8_xfce_amd64-20161013_1314.iso cheers, Robert ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Systemd-Illness in procps.
Nate Bargmann wrote: > If there is no technical reason for it, is it spite? The natural tendency to grasp for a piece of technical candy, trying to play nicely with others who are all using it, to name two other possible reasons. > - Nate > > -- > > "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all > possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." > > Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng -- Joel Roth ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
