Re: [DNG] Experiencing with GtkBuilder
Hi Rainer, And thanks for your test... On 20/11/15 12:11, Rainer Weikusat wrote: "Works for me" (as usual, the dbus invasion could be successfully repelled by deinstalling everything which came in the way until dbus could be deinstalled itself without affecting any 'real' functionality). Almost certainly my lower version of gtk3 doesn't support spinning animation. See here: http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/GNOME/sources/gtk+/3.8/gtk+-3.8.0.news Are you in Ceres? I will try with the unstable branch. BTW, instead of creating a README file telling people what to do, have you considered using a Makefile which does it for them? Yes..., i will do so :) Thanks again, Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Is netman being adopted or was it a waste of time, and effort?
Hi Edward, As you know, i'm taking a look at GtkBuilder. My first example was a window with a button doing nothing. So, it works fine in old hardware. My second example was a spinner, and there will be more examples all of them focused to the netman gui. I've been using netman for weeks with no issues, except for the fact that it doesn't autoconnect (probably my fault). Cheers, Aitor. On 11/20/2015 12:11 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote: Hi All, At the moment, I am too busy to stay online. I am writing to ask whether there are users of netman to evaluate whether my efforts were worthwhile or not. Edward ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
[DNG] How to integrate devuan-installer in an existing devuan based system
Hi all,
This example is for amd64 architecture.
I genuinely apologize for the length of the post !!
*1.-**_MODIFYING THE FILESYSTEM.SQUASHFS_*
Download the iso distribution: ExeGnuLinux, Refracta, Star... or
whatever you want, and extract the content.
You will find a squashfs file in it (there are exceptions like knoppix,
which uses loop). This file is named filesystem.squashfs in the most of
the cases.
Mount the file into a chroot jail and enter move up to it:
$ mkdir /tmp/squashfs
$ sudo su
# mount -t squashfs -o loop filesystem.squashfs /tmp/squashfs
# rsync -v -rlt -a /tmp/squashfs/ chroot
# umount /tmp/squashfs/
# mount -t none -o bind /proc chroot/proc
# mount -t none -o bind /sys chroot/sys
# mount -t none -o bind /dev/pts chroot/dev/pts
# xhost +
If you don't type xhost+, you will can't be able to run graphical
applications into the jail.
Copy the following files:
# cp /etc/hostname chroot/etc/hostname
# cp /etc/hostname/hosts chroot/etc/hostname/hosts
# cp /etc/hostname/resolv.conf chroot/etc/resolv.conf
Now you will have network connection into the jail.
Move up to the jail:
# chroot chroot
Do all the changes you want in the system. The following three points
are very important:
i) The kernel in the system and the kernel in the installer must be the
same.
ii) Install all the grub dependencies, but not the grub.
iii) Remove /etc/fstab... Yes, kick it! If you don't remove this file,
doing a manual partition during the installation, your personal folder
will not be created (this is a bug in debian-installer).
Install the following packages:
root@devuan:~# apt-get install live-boot live-boot-initramfs-tools
live-tools live-config live-config-sysvinit
Create a file "/etc/live/config.conf" containing something like that:
LIVE_HOSTNAME=devuan
LIVE_USERNAME=devuan
LIVE_USER_FULLNAME="Devuan"
LIVE_USER_DEFAULT_GROUPS="cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev fuse
bluetooth netdev scanner"
Make a backup of your sources.list:
root@devuan:~# cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list-back
Don't rename this file.
Create an executable /usr/bin/preseed-hack:
#! /bin/bash
dpkg --purge live-boot live-boot-initramfs-tools live-tools live-config
live-config-sysvinit
rm -rf /etc/live
rm -f /etc/apt/sources.list
mv /etc/apt/sources.list-back /apt/sources.list
FILE=/etc/fstab
if grep "^/dev/sd" ${FILE} | grep "/media/" | grep "auto"
then
LINE1=`grep "^/dev/sd" ${FILE} | grep "/media/" | grep "auto"`
LINE2="## ${LINE1}"
rpl -q "${LINE1}" "${LINE2}" ${FILE}
fi
if grep "^/dev/sr" ${FILE} | grep "/media/cdrom"
then
LINE3=`grep "^/dev/" ${FILE} | grep "/media/cdrom"`
LINE4="## ${LINE3}"
rpl -q "${LINE3}" "${LINE4}" ${FILE}
fi
exit 0
The above script fixes another bug in debian-installer.
Clean the system and exit:
root@devuan:~# apt-get autoremove --purge
root@devuan:~# apt-get autoclean
You can use 'mksquashfs' for getting the new filesystem.squashfs, but i
prefer to use live-build.
Using live-build we will get a better compression (Ozi and Frits are
working on that).
*2.- *_*GETTING THE NEW FILESYSTEM.SQUASHFS WITH LIVE-BUILD*_
Install 'live-build' and 'squashfs-tools' packages, and type:
$ mkdir live-build
$ cd live-build
$ sudo su
# lb init
Here you are an example for lb-config (choose your nearest mirror):
# lb config -a amd64 \
--binary-images iso \
--distribution jessie \
--win32-loader false \
--checksums md5 \
--archive-areas "main" \
--apt-recommends false \
--apt aptitude \
--apt-options --yes \
--build-with-chroot false \
--parent-mirror-bootstrap "deb http://es.mirror.devuan.org/merged/"; \
--parent-mirror-binary "deb http://es.mirror.devuan.org/merged/"; \
--mirror-bootstrap "deb http://es.mirror.devuan.org/merged/"; \
--mirror-binary "deb http://es.mirror.devuan.org/merged/";
# lb bootstrap && lb chroot
Now you will have the following folders:
.build
cache
chroot
config
Make a backup of the chroot folder and replace it by the chroot
containing your distribution, or create a simbolic link pointing to it.
Build the system:
# lb binary
And you will get your new filesystem.squashfs !!
Now we are going to include it in the iso.
*3.-**_GENERATING THE ISO_*
Install 'genisoimage', 'syslinux' and 'syslinux-utils' packages.
Download the following live image of Devuan:
gnuinos.org/devuan
Extract it with file-roller or isomaster in a file named 'DEVUAN', and
replace the following files:
live/filesystem.squashfs
live/initrd.img
live/vmlinuz
You can also customize the splash, etc...
The following script will generate the new *.iso image and the *.iso.md5:
#!/bin/sh
WORKDIR="$HOME"
ISOTMP="DEVUAN"
CREATEISO="`which mkisofs`"
if [ "$CREATEISO" = "" ]; then
CREATEISO="`which genisoimage`"
fi
LIVECDLABEL="unofficial Devuan 1.0 Alpha2"
CUSTOMISO="unofficial-Devuan-1.0-Alpha2_amd64.iso"
find $WORKDIR/$ISOTMP -xdev -type f -print0 | xargs
Re: [DNG] How to integrate devuan-installer in an existing devuan based system
I forgot umounting the partitions:
umount chroot/proc
umount chroot/sys
umount chroot/dev/pts
after exiting from the chroot jail. Be sure that chroot/proc and
chroot/sys are empty, because sometimes they are busy. Otherwise,
restart the computer.
Aitor.
On 11/21/2015 01:27 PM, aitor_czr wrote:
Hi all,
This example is for amd64 architecture.
I genuinely apologize for the length of the post !!
*1.-**_MODIFYING THE FILESYSTEM.SQUASHFS_*
Download the iso distribution: ExeGnuLinux, Refracta, Star... or
whatever you want, and extract the content.
You will find a squashfs file in it (there are exceptions like
knoppix, which uses loop). This file is named filesystem.squashfs in
the most of the cases.
Mount the file into a chroot jail and enter move up to it:
$ mkdir /tmp/squashfs
$ sudo su
# mount -t squashfs -o loop filesystem.squashfs /tmp/squashfs
# rsync -v -rlt -a /tmp/squashfs/ chroot
# umount /tmp/squashfs/
# mount -t none -o bind /proc chroot/proc
# mount -t none -o bind /sys chroot/sys
# mount -t none -o bind /dev/pts chroot/dev/pts
# xhost +
If you don't type xhost+, you will can't be able to run graphical
applications into the jail.
Copy the following files:
# cp /etc/hostname chroot/etc/hostname
# cp /etc/hostname/hosts chroot/etc/hostname/hosts
# cp /etc/hostname/resolv.conf chroot/etc/resolv.conf
Now you will have network connection into the jail.
Move up to the jail:
# chroot chroot
Do all the changes you want in the system. The following three points
are very important:
i) The kernel in the system and the kernel in the installer must be
the same.
ii) Install all the grub dependencies, but not the grub.
iii) Remove /etc/fstab... Yes, kick it! If you don't remove this file,
doing a manual partition during the installation, your personal folder
will not be created (this is a bug in debian-installer).
Install the following packages:
root@devuan:~# apt-get install live-boot live-boot-initramfs-tools
live-tools live-config live-config-sysvinit
Create a file "/etc/live/config.conf" containing something like that:
LIVE_HOSTNAME=devuan
LIVE_USERNAME=devuan
LIVE_USER_FULLNAME="Devuan"
LIVE_USER_DEFAULT_GROUPS="cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev fuse
bluetooth netdev scanner"
Make a backup of your sources.list:
root@devuan:~# cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list-back
Don't rename this file.
Create an executable /usr/bin/preseed-hack:
#! /bin/bash
dpkg --purge live-boot live-boot-initramfs-tools live-tools
live-config live-config-sysvinit
rm -rf /etc/live
rm -f /etc/apt/sources.list
mv /etc/apt/sources.list-back /apt/sources.list
FILE=/etc/fstab
if grep "^/dev/sd" ${FILE} | grep "/media/" | grep "auto"
then
LINE1=`grep "^/dev/sd" ${FILE} | grep "/media/" | grep "auto"`
LINE2="## ${LINE1}"
rpl -q "${LINE1}" "${LINE2}" ${FILE}
fi
if grep "^/dev/sr" ${FILE} | grep "/media/cdrom"
then
LINE3=`grep "^/dev/" ${FILE} | grep "/media/cdrom"`
LINE4="## ${LINE3}"
rpl -q "${LINE3}" "${LINE4}" ${FILE}
fi
exit 0
The above script fixes another bug in debian-installer.
Clean the system and exit:
root@devuan:~# apt-get autoremove --purge
root@devuan:~# apt-get autoclean
You can use 'mksquashfs' for getting the new filesystem.squashfs, but
i prefer to use live-build.
Using live-build we will get a better compression (Ozi and Frits are
working on that).
*2.- *_*GETTING THE NEW FILESYSTEM.SQUASHFS WITH LIVE-BUILD*_
Install 'live-build' and 'squashfs-tools' packages, and type:
$ mkdir live-build
$ cd live-build
$ sudo su
# lb init
Here you are an example for lb-config (choose your nearest mirror):
# lb config -a amd64 \
--binary-images iso \
--distribution jessie \
--win32-loader false \
--checksums md5 \
--archive-areas "main" \
--apt-recommends false \
--apt aptitude \
--apt-options --yes \
--build-with-chroot false \
--parent-mirror-bootstrap "deb
http://es.mirror.devuan.org/merged/"; \
--parent-mirror-binary "deb http://es.mirror.devuan.org/merged/"; \
--mirror-bootstrap "deb http://es.mirror.devuan.org/merged/"; \
--mirror-binary "deb http://es.mirror.devuan.org/merged/";
# lb bootstrap && lb chroot
Now you will have the following folders:
.build
cache
chroot
config
Make a backup of the chroot folder and replace it by the chroot
containing your distribution, or create a simbolic link pointing to it.
Build the system:
# lb binary
And you will get your new filesystem.squashfs !!
Now we are going to include it in the iso.
*3.-**_GENERATING THE ISO_*
Install 'genisoimage', 'syslinux' and 'syslinux-utils' packages.
Download the following live image of Devuan:
gnuinos.org/devuan
Extract it with file-roller or isomaster in a file named 'DEVUAN', and
replace the following files:
live/filesystem.squashfs
live/initrd.img
live/vmlinuz
You can also customize the splash, etc...
The following script will generate the new *.iso ima
Re: [DNG] How to integrate devuan-installer in an existing devuan based system
Thanks for documenting that Aitor! It's all a lot of work. Let's shout a heartfelt "thank you" to Daniel Baumann and his live-build companions who automated this difficult set of tasks considerably :-) A small tip I learned only recently, for experimenting with chroot jails: You wouldn't want to rm /etc/fstab and forget whether you're in a chroot in a chroot or in the "top-level" terminal session by accident. I noticed that if the first thing you do out of habit after chroot is export debian_chroot=CHROOT it's a bit easier to keep track of where you are because of the default $PS1 prompt in Debian All I did for live-build tests was: - lb config - edit the files in config/ - edit config/package-lists/sinterklaasverlanglijst.list - lb build and it made a DVD. I suppose it should be that easy, as long as you don't do any advanced stuff. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] How to integrate devuan-installer in an existing devuan based system
On 11/21/2015 07:27 AM, aitor_czr wrote: > "How to integrate devuan-installer in an existing devuan based system" Nice howto. Not too long - just the right length. Is there a devuan-installer package, or are we just using the debian installer? > > Install the following packages: > > root@devuan:~# apt-get install live-boot live-boot-initramfs-tools > live-tools live-config live-config-sysvinit > These will already be installed in Refracta or Exegnulinux. (Possibly not live-tools, I think I left it out in the last Refracta builds. I'm pretty sure that all it does is change update-initramfs so it puts the updated initrd in /live instead of in /boot.) > > You can use 'mksquashfs' for getting the new filesystem.squashfs, but i > prefer to use live-build. > > Using live-build we will get a better compression (Ozi and Frits are > working on that). > Try it with 'mksquashfs -comp=xz' for a smaller file. If you can compress better than that, I would like to know more about it. Thanks. -fsr ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] How to integrate devuan-installer in an existing devuan based system
Excellent! If you put this up somewhere let me know and I'll link to you On Saturday, November 21, 2015 12:27 PM, aitor_czr wrote: Hi all, This example is for amd64 architecture. I genuinely apologize for the length of the post !! -- Take back your privacy. Switch to www.StartMail.com ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Is netman being adopted or was it a waste of time, and effort?
netman can autoconnect, you only need to use the --auto-conn parameter with the GUI frontend. Edward On 21/11/2015, aitor_czr wrote: > Hi Edward, > > As you know, i'm taking a look at GtkBuilder. > > My first example was a window with a button doing nothing. So, it works > fine in old hardware. > > My second example was a spinner, and there will be more examples all of > them focused to the netman gui. > > I've been using netman for weeks with no issues, except for the fact > that it doesn't autoconnect (probably my fault). > > Cheers, > > Aitor. > > On 11/20/2015 12:11 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> At the moment, I am too busy to stay online. I am writing to ask >> whether there are users of netman to evaluate whether my efforts were >> worthwhile or not. >> >> >> Edward > > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Is netman being adopted or was it a waste of time, and effort?
Sorry, overlooked! It is only now, as you say this, that i remember reading it: * DngDigest, Vol 12, Issue 39 (September 13) * Thanks, Aitor On 11/21/2015 06:10 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote: netman can autoconnect, you only need to use the --auto-conn parameter with the GUI frontend. Edward ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] How to integrate devuan-installer in an existing devuan based system
Hi Frits Yes that would be a good enough test. Appreciate all your work getting it devuanised! Which repo did you use to make the dvd? Cheers Ozi On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 12:59 AM, Godefridus Daalmans wrote: > Thanks for documenting that Aitor! > > It's all a lot of work. > > Let's shout a heartfelt "thank you" to Daniel Baumann and his live-build > companions who automated this difficult set of tasks considerably :-) > > A small tip I learned only recently, for experimenting with chroot jails: > You wouldn't want to rm /etc/fstab and forget whether you're in a chroot > in a chroot or in the "top-level" terminal session by accident. > I noticed that if the first thing you do out of habit after chroot is > export debian_chroot=CHROOT > it's a bit easier to keep track of where you are because of the default > $PS1 prompt in Debian > > > All I did for live-build tests was: > > - lb config > > - edit the files in config/ > > - edit config/package-lists/sinterklaasverlanglijst.list > > - lb build > > and it made a DVD. I suppose it should be that easy, as long as you don't > do any advanced stuff. > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] How to integrate devuan-installer in an existing devuan based system
Hello, the first "devuanized" live-build is going to be jessie-only, 4.0.3-somethingdevuansomething and I still have to see how easily it can be merged a year forward (hopefully that's easy to do) It's just that live-build is quite debian-specific and needed to be changed otherwise it just would force installation of systemd on any live DVD you make with it. Not hardcoded, I hasten to say, but as a consequence of debootstrap's dependencies handling. Frits Hi Frits Yes that would be a good enough test. Appreciate all your work getting it devuanised! Which repo did you use to make the dvd? Cheers Ozi On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 12:59 AM, Godefridus Daalmans wrote: Thanks for documenting that Aitor! It's all a lot of work. Let's shout a heartfelt "thank you" to Daniel Baumann and his live-build companions who automated this difficult set of tasks considerably :-) A small tip I learned only recently, for experimenting with chroot jails: You wouldn't want to rm /etc/fstab and forget whether you're in a chroot in a chroot or in the "top-level" terminal session by accident. I noticed that if the first thing you do out of habit after chroot is export debian_chroot=CHROOT it's a bit easier to keep track of where you are because of the default $PS1 prompt in Debian All I did for live-build tests was: - lb config - edit the files in config/ - edit config/package-lists/sinterklaasverlanglijst.list - lb build and it made a DVD. I suppose it should be that easy, as long as you don't do any advanced stuff. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] How to integrate devuan-installer in an existing devuan based system
Hi Frits I want to see how much changed between stable and sid versions. I've started to do a side by side compare of 4.0.4 and 5.0-a11-2 in sid, using diffuse. Functions: 1. all reference to ubuntu has gone 2. updated copyright hears 3. templates.sh, releases.sh deleted 4. chroot_bind_path.sh added 5. renaming variables LIVE_IMAGE_xxx to LB_xxx 6. charon to cairon 7. casper deleted Most of the differences where in defaults.sh, as you would expect. Many of the scripts have only a small change. Cheers Ozi On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Godefridus Daalmans wrote: > Hello, > > the first "devuanized" live-build is going to be jessie-only, > 4.0.3-somethingdevuansomething > and I still have to see how easily it can be merged a year forward > (hopefully that's easy to do) > > It's just that live-build is quite debian-specific and needed to be > changed otherwise it just > would force installation of systemd on any live DVD you make with it. Not > hardcoded, I hasten to say, > but as a consequence of debootstrap's dependencies handling. > > Frits > > Hi Frits >> >> Yes that would be a good enough test. Appreciate all your work getting it >> devuanised! >> >> Which repo did you use to make the dvd? >> >> Cheers >> Ozi >> >> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 12:59 AM, Godefridus Daalmans >> > >>> wrote: >>> >> >> Thanks for documenting that Aitor! >>> >>> It's all a lot of work. >>> >>> Let's shout a heartfelt "thank you" to Daniel Baumann and his live-build >>> companions who automated this difficult set of tasks considerably :-) >>> >>> A small tip I learned only recently, for experimenting with chroot >>> jails: >>> You wouldn't want to rm /etc/fstab and forget whether you're in a chroot >>> in a chroot or in the "top-level" terminal session by accident. >>> I noticed that if the first thing you do out of habit after chroot is >>> export debian_chroot=CHROOT >>> it's a bit easier to keep track of where you are because of the default >>> $PS1 prompt in Debian >>> >>> >>> All I did for live-build tests was: >>> >>> - lb config >>> >>> - edit the files in config/ >>> >>> - edit config/package-lists/sinterklaasverlanglijst.list >>> >>> - lb build >>> >>> and it made a DVD. I suppose it should be that easy, as long as you >>> don't >>> do any advanced stuff. >>> >>> >> ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] Experiencing with GtkBuilder
Hi Aitor, As I told you earlier in this thread, I am am joining you in your experimentation with gtk. I have just created a little calendar application using the calendar widget. After this, I can try to create the GUI for netman but obviously without the coding. Edward On 21/11/2015, aitor_czr wrote: > Hi Rainer, > > And thanks for your test... > > On 20/11/15 12:11, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> "Works for me" (as usual, the dbus invasion could be successfully >> repelled by deinstalling everything which came in the way until dbus >> could be deinstalled itself without affecting any 'real' functionality). > Almost certainly my lower version of gtk3 doesn't support spinning > animation. See here: > > http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/GNOME/sources/gtk+/3.8/gtk+-3.8.0.news > > Are you in Ceres? I will try with the unstable branch. > >> BTW, instead of creating a README file telling people what to do, have >> you considered using a Makefile which does it for them? > Yes..., i will do so :) > > Thanks again, > >Aitor. > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
