Re: Value proposition of Rails
Ok, I am stupid! I was reading an article and mistyped! http://jooto.com/blog/index.php/2005/10/29/rails-value-proposition/ On Mar 19, 12:23 am, shabda wrote: > [Trying not be trollish, but the subject might be so. My apologies in > advance.] > > I run a small Django development firm (www.uswaretech.com), and a > lot of clients we go after need to be convinced on why they should > choose Django. What is your experience in this? Specifically am I > looking for is, > > 1. Why choose Django over J2EE > 2. Why choose Django over RoR > 3. Why choose Django over PHP > 4. What are the five biggest Django sites, (In number of absolute > pageviews.) > 5. Objective Benchmarks, Industry Reports, Anectodal evidence, and > testimonials --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Value proposition of Rails
>Nobody ever releases accurate information on site information, so >anything you get here will be a guess. "Five biggest" is kind of a bad >number anyway, since your customer won't be any of them and it's >unlikely you're targeting them as your customers (if you're only looking >at the five biggest, you're missing out on the other few thousand). >Better to look at established companies or busy sites using Django, >rather than saying you had to go as far as the top five to find anything >decent. I want to use that to answer does Django work efficiently and does it scale? When you get asked "My Database has N-Gazillion rows and app needs x concurrent users", showing some sites which use Django and push 500,000 pageviews per day would be good. I tried to glean this information from Djangosites and corelate to Alexa, but maybe I am missing some other big ones. On Mar 19, 6:37 am, Malcolm Tredinnick wrote: > On Wed, 2009-03-18 at 12:23 -0700,shabdawrote: > > [Trying not be trollish, but the subject might be so. My apologies in > > advance.] > > > I run a small Django development firm (www.uswaretech.com), and a > > lot of clients we go after need to be convinced on why they should > > choose Django. What is your experience in this? Specifically am I > > looking for is, > > > 1. Why choose Django over J2EE > > 2. Why choose Django over RoR > > 3. Why choose Django over PHP > > The answer to all of these isn't necessarily to do it, for a customer. > It depends on what resources they have available. There are plenty of > cases where Ruby on Rails is a better choice for an organisation than > Django simply because they have Ruby developers available. > > Also, remember that none of these are an either/or proposition. All can > work together (indeed Django on Jython inside Tomcat, or similar, is > going to be a huge thing, I suspect). As a consultant both as an > individual and as part of a corporate consulting group, I've found it > better to pitch the value of using Python/Django/whatever and why it > solves the problem for an effective cost or timetable or whatever the > client's particular pressing issue is, rather than saying the others are > worse choices. For things like Java and Ruby, it's going to be a bit > insane to diss the languages, as they simply aren't that bad in the > corporate world. > > Even PHP: I mean, Flickr, Wikipedia, Yahoo -- these are some pretty > large sites running on PHP. Another poster's comment about the ability > to hire good talent is valid, but that also counts against Python (and > Ruby). Corporate clients, particularly, become concerned over the > scarcity of available developers. > > > 4. What are the five biggest Django sites, (In number of absolute > > pageviews.) > > Nobody ever releases accurate information on site information, so > anything you get here will be a guess. "Five biggest" is kind of a bad > number anyway, since your customer won't be any of them and it's > unlikely you're targeting them as your customers (if you're only looking > at the five biggest, you're missing out on the other few thousand). > > Better to look at established companies or busy sites using Django, > rather than saying you had to go as far as the top five to find anything > decent. > > Regards, > Malcolm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Getting started with Django: New Udemy Class, free for a limited time
Here is the link: http://www.udemy.com/getting-started-with-django2/ More info: I am starting a Udemy class called "Getting started with Django". This is supposed to be a fast paced introduction to Django, and is going to be useful to people from beginner to intermediate Django skills. Please join: http://www.udemy.com/getting-started-with-django2/ or forward to people who may be interested. I am keeping the course free for the first 100 people, and I am going to set the price to 149$ once we have the 100 people signed up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en.
Re: Getting started with Django: New Udemy Class, free for a limited time
I was hoping to get about 100 people in a month, but we already have 289 people signed up in a week. :). I wasn't expecting this. (You can verify this at Udemy.) Because I am still adding the content, I am keeping the price to $9 for the whole of February, and would raise once I am done with adding the tutorials. You can join here: http://www.udemy.com/getting-started-with-django2/ Whats added already. 1. 4 part screencast for the four part Django tutorial. 2. Screencasts on using pip, pep8.py, pyflakes, ipython. 3. PDF versions of Django design patterns and Djen of Django book. 4. Various other tutorials. 5. Code samples of all code written in the screencasts and the tutorials. On Jan 28, 11:13 pm, Shabda Raaj wrote: > Here is the link:http://www.udemy.com/getting-started-with-django2/ > > More info: > I am starting aUdemyclass called "Getting started with Django". > This is supposed to be a fast paced introduction to Django, and is > going to be useful to people from beginner to intermediate Django > skills. > > Please join:http://www.udemy.com/getting-started-with-django2/or > forward to people who may be interested. I am keeping the course free > for the first 100 people, and I am going to set the price to 149$ > once > we have the 100 people signed up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en.
Django Design Patterns and Djen of Django books on Kindle Store
We have published our Ebooks on Kindle Store and would love to get some reviews. (Just $1 each) http://www.amazon.com/The-Djen-of-Django-ebook/dp/B006P1K0YY/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2 http://www.amazon.com/Django-Design-Patterns-ebook/dp/B006OYO9SK/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_1 (They are also available for free should you prefer that.) http://agiliq.com/books/djenofdjango/ http://agiliq.com/books/djangodesignpatterns/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en.
[Announce]Django-parsley: Easy client side validations for Django
I would like to announce our new app: Django Parsley - https://github.com/agiliq/django-parsley Django forms give you nice server side validations for free. This library adds client side valiadtions with very little effort to you your forms, using parsley.js. Patches and feedback welcome. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Editing the RSS in the Django community feeds
Hello, The Django community RSS feeds has a form to add new RSS: https://www.djangoproject.com/community/add/blogs/ We have our RSS added in this from way back. However sometime we write about non-django stuff, which is not relevant in this feed. I would like to update this to our Django only feed: http://agiliq.com/blog/rss/latest/django/ Can someone with access do this? (or advise me who can I contact to edit this.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Editing the RSS in the Django community feeds
Hi Russel, Thanks for your help. Looks like I was using this via feedburner, so I just updated it at the feedburner level. On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 7:57:46 AM UTC+5:30, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > > Hi Shabda, > > I've got hold of the server logs - the feeds are tied into a bigger > framework for actually gathering the blog entries, and older feeds are > resisting change :-) > > There are two options here: > > * You should be able edit the feed yourself: visit > http://www.djangoproject.com/community/mine and update the details. > > * Try deleting the feed and re-adding it. > > If you're still having problems, try emailing > ja...@jacobian.org- he's got the keys to the servers, and should > be able to fix things at a > low level. > > Yours, > Russ Magee %-) > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Russell Keith-Magee < > rus...@keith-magee.com > wrote: > >> Hi Shabda, >> >> I took a look at this for you, but for some reason the new URL is >> throwing an error (on our end) when I try and update it. I'll keep digging >> and let you know when it's working. >> >> Yours, >> Russ Magee %-) >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Shabda Raaj >> > wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> The Django community RSS feeds has a form to add new RSS: >>> https://www.djangoproject.com/community/add/blogs/ >>> >>> We have our RSS added in this from way back. However sometime we write >>> about non-django stuff, which is not relevant in this feed. I would like to >>> update this to our Django only feed: >>> >>> http://agiliq.com/blog/rss/latest/django/ >>> >>> Can someone with access do this? (or advise me who can I contact to edit >>> this.) >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Django users" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to django-users...@googlegroups.com . >>> To post to this group, send email to django...@googlegroups.com >>> . >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Editing the RSS in the Django community feeds
Hi Guys, Updating feedburner actually pulled in a lot of old entries in the community feed. I am not sure why. My apologies for pushing this to the feed. Hopefully the feed will pick up only the new entries from now on. On Mar 12, 7:44 pm, Shabda Raaj wrote: > Hi Russel, > > Thanks for your help. > > Looks like I was using this via feedburner, so I just updated it at the > feedburner level. > > > > > > > > On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 7:57:46 AM UTC+5:30, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > > > Hi Shabda, > > > I've got hold of the server logs - the feeds are tied into a bigger > > framework for actually gathering the blog entries, and older feeds are > > resisting change :-) > > > There are two options here: > > > * You should be able edit the feed yourself: visit > >http://www.djangoproject.com/community/mineand update the details. > > > * Try deleting the feed and re-adding it. > > > If you're still having problems, try emailing > > ja...@jacobian.org- he's got the keys to the servers, and > > should be able to fix things at a > > low level. > > > Yours, > > Russ Magee %-) > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Russell Keith-Magee < > > rus...@keith-magee.com > wrote: > > >> Hi Shabda, > > >> I took a look at this for you, but for some reason the new URL is > >> throwing an error (on our end) when I try and update it. I'll keep digging > >> and let you know when it's working. > > >> Yours, > >> Russ Magee %-) > > >> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Shabda Raaj > >> > >> > wrote: > > >>> Hello, > > >>> The Django community RSS feeds has a form to add new RSS: > >>>https://www.djangoproject.com/community/add/blogs/ > > >>> We have our RSS added in this from way back. However sometime we write > >>> about non-django stuff, which is not relevant in this feed. I would like > >>> to > >>> update this to our Django only feed: > > >>>http://agiliq.com/blog/rss/latest/django/ > > >>> Can someone with access do this? (or advise me who can I contact to edit > >>> this.) > > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>> Groups "Django users" group. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > >>> an email to django-users...@googlegroups.com . > >>> To post to this group, send email to > >>> django...@googlegroups.com > >>> . > >>> Visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. > >>> For more options, visithttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Using .extra after using .annotate is not working
I am trying to get a field in a queryset which depends on the result of the annotations. I tried using extra on an annotated queryset, which doesn't seem to work. Lets say my models looks like this: class Foo(models.Model): name = models.CharField(...) class FooData(models.Model): foo = models.ForeignKey(Foo) sales = models.PositiveIntegerField() items_sold = models.PositiveIntegerField() I have a queryset of Foo objects some_foos = Foo.objects.filter() I have annotated it to get the sum on FooData. some_foos.object.annotate( total_sales=Sum("foodata__sales"), total_items_sold=Sum("foodata__items_sold") ) Now I want to get the average price for which I am trying to use .extra. They don't seem to work. (I have looked the generated sql queries). #Wont work, fields not defined yet. some_foos.object.annotate( total_sales=Sum("foodata__sales"), total_items_sold=Sum("foodata__items_sold") ).extra(select={'price_avg': "total_sales/total_items_sold"}) #Wont work, this adds an extra clause in group by price_avg = "SUM(appname_foodata.sales)/ SUM(appname_foodata.items_sold)" some_foos.object.annotate( total_sales=Sum("foodata__sales"), total_items_sold=Sum("foodata__items_sold") ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[Announce] Django Graphos - Django charting made *really* easy
Hello, I would like to announce Django Graphos - An app which makes it really easy to work with Django graphs. https://github.com/agiliq/django-graphos Graphos is a Django app to plot data into graph. ### Supported Backends: * Python Nested lists * CSV Files * MongoDB * Django ORM ### Charting API Supported * Google charts API * Flot * YUI https://github.com/agiliq/django-graphos Plotting a chart from a model is as simple as: queryset = Accounts.objects.filter(foo=bar) LineChart(ModelDataSource(queryset, fields=["year", "sales", "expenses"])) Looking for review of the code and architecture. Pull reviews very welcome: https://github.com/agiliq/django-graphos -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.