Re: Dump LineString GEOM to Point GEOM (One Model To Another)

[Jani Tiainen]

On Wed, 29 May 2013 07:13:04 -0700 (PDT)
kpurdon  wrote:

> Is it possible, outside of using a raw SQL query (PostGIS/PostgreSQL) to do 
> a GEOM dump.
> 
> I have a table (model) where 1 row is 1 LineString and I need to dump that 
> table into another table (model) where 1 row is 1 point from the LineString.
> 
> Raw SQL would be something like:
> 
> SELECT geom AS points FROM ST_DumpPoints((SELECT fl_line FROM 
> greenland.line_paths WHERE ...));
> 
> In this case line_paths is the LineString table and fl_line the LineString 
> GEOM.
> 
> How can I do this within GeoDjango w/o using rawSQL and bypassing the 
> models?

Linestrings do have coord_seq property that you can iterate over and generate 
point geometries form that and save to another table.

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CBVs and using existing forms for user authentication etc

[tony gair]

I'm trying to write my first django app using cbv's and good practice ala 2 
scoops!

(thanks for all the help so far in this forum btw!)

I have constructed the app using django braces and CBV's and have noticed 
that I can only authenticate into my app through the admin panel.

I suspect that django already has the logging mechanism for my abstractuser 
and its just a matter of declaring it in my urls, 

is this so?

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django , python and ides

[tony gair]

Python and Django are not my first languages and currently I am using it 
like I would a compiled language inside gedit on debian wheezy. I was 
actually quite surprised to find a lot of people using it on windows and 
macs when I went to my local python user group but enough digression!.
 I was wondering if anyone using debian wheezy can recommend a nice ide 
(hopefully opensource but if not then relatively inexpenisive) for django 
and python?

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linux or windows

[Kakar Arunachal Service]

Hi!
I know this question is one absurd question, but just out of curiosity, is
it important to use linux other than the windows, related to django. Cause
i'm in windows, and if it is, then i was thinking to use Ubuntu. Please
advise.

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Re: IDE django with perforce

[Rafael E. Ferrero]

I use Aptana on ubuntu, no problem on 3 years for now.


2013/5/30 Ezequiel 

> On Thursday, May 30, 2013 2:23:11 AM UTC-3, Aswani Kumar wrote:
>>
>> hi guys,
>>
>> we are having problem with eclipse 3.8 with pydev perforce plugins on
>> ubuntu 13.04
>>
>> *problem :* after using for few days or unexpected shutdown, eclipse
>> stops working i mean opening.
>>
>> we need perforce with django, can any one tell me whats the best ide for
>> django with integrated perforce plugin.
>>
>>
> I tried Eclipse+Pydev and Pycharm. Definitely Pycharm worth the money, I
> found far way better than Eclipse and seems to have perforce:
>
> http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/webhelp/enabling-and-configuring-perforce-integration.html
>
> Regards.
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> http://flickrock.com/mikelpierre
> http://flickrock.com
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Re: linux or windows

[Jonas Geiregat]

On 31 May 2013, at 13:11, Kakar Arunachal Service wrote:

> Hi!
> I know this question is one absurd question, but just out of curiosity, is it 
> important to use linux other than the windows, related to django. Cause i'm 
> in windows, and if it is, then i was thinking to use Ubuntu. Please advise.

The platform is unimportant, if you feel at home in windows then use windows 
else use whatever you like as long as it is supported by django.

On a UNIX based system, you could perfectly run/debug django, without touching 
anything like a shell, inside your IDE of choice . 

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Re: CBVs and using existing forms for user authentication etc

[Jonas Geiregat]

On 31 May 2013, at 12:36, tony gair wrote:

> 
> I'm trying to write my first django app using cbv's and good practice ala 2 
> scoops!
> 
> (thanks for all the help so far in this forum btw!)
> 
> I have constructed the app using django braces and CBV's and have noticed 
> that I can only authenticate into my app through the admin panel.
> 
> I suspect that django already has the logging mechanism for my abstractuser 
> and its just a matter of declaring it in my urls, 
> 
> is this so?
> 

Yes, take a look in django.contrib.auth.views, it has many function based views 
I just reuse and add to my urls.py to quickly get a login system up and running.

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Re: linux or windows

[Avraham Serour]

for development purposes it shouldn't make a difference, on your server I
believe ubuntu would be a better choice than windows
on the other hand if your server is ubuntu some might choose to use it for
development also, to be as close as possible to the production environment


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Jonas Geiregat  wrote:

>
> On 31 May 2013, at 13:11, Kakar Arunachal Service wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> > I know this question is one absurd question, but just out of curiosity,
> is it important to use linux other than the windows, related to django.
> Cause i'm in windows, and if it is, then i was thinking to use Ubuntu.
> Please advise.
>
> The platform is unimportant, if you feel at home in windows then use
> windows else use whatever you like as long as it is supported by django.
>
> On a UNIX based system, you could perfectly run/debug django, without
> touching anything like a shell, inside your IDE of choice .
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Re: linux or windows

[Kakar Arunachal Service]

thanks!! So, for the production purpose, one must use linux?


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Avraham Serour  wrote:

> for development purposes it shouldn't make a difference, on your server I
> believe ubuntu would be a better choice than windows
> on the other hand if your server is ubuntu some might choose to use it for
> development also, to be as close as possible to the production environment
>
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Jonas Geiregat wrote:
>
>>
>> On 31 May 2013, at 13:11, Kakar Arunachal Service wrote:
>>
>> > Hi!
>> > I know this question is one absurd question, but just out of curiosity,
>> is it important to use linux other than the windows, related to django.
>> Cause i'm in windows, and if it is, then i was thinking to use Ubuntu.
>> Please advise.
>>
>> The platform is unimportant, if you feel at home in windows then use
>> windows else use whatever you like as long as it is supported by django.
>>
>> On a UNIX based system, you could perfectly run/debug django, without
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Re: linux or windows

[Jonas Geiregat]

On 31 May 2013, at 13:26, Kakar Arunachal Service wrote:

> thanks!! So, for the production purpose, one must use linux?
> 

No you can also run django and python applications in general on a window 
system, even in production.

But in is most cases it's easier to deploy a django/python application on a 
*nix based system.

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Re: linux or windows

[Huy T]

Without regarding any other topics, you will find more information dealing
with *nix and django/python versus a Windows environment. So from an
information perspective, you'd be doing yourself a disservice if you
weren't familiar with a unix/linux flavor (not saying you aren't).

Also, security is better historically (may have to check on that one.)


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Kakar Arunachal Service <
kakararunachalserv...@gmail.com> wrote:

> thanks!! So, for the production purpose, one must use linux?
>
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Avraham Serour  wrote:
>
>> for development purposes it shouldn't make a difference, on your server I
>> believe ubuntu would be a better choice than windows
>> on the other hand if your server is ubuntu some might choose to use it
>> for development also, to be as close as possible to the production
>> environment
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Jonas Geiregat wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 31 May 2013, at 13:11, Kakar Arunachal Service wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi!
>>> > I know this question is one absurd question, but just out of
>>> curiosity, is it important to use linux other than the windows, related to
>>> django. Cause i'm in windows, and if it is, then i was thinking to use
>>> Ubuntu. Please advise.
>>>
>>> The platform is unimportant, if you feel at home in windows then use
>>> windows else use whatever you like as long as it is supported by django.
>>>
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Re: linux or windows

[Kakar Arunachal Service]

ok thanks!


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Huy T  wrote:

> Without regarding any other topics, you will find more information dealing
> with *nix and django/python versus a Windows environment. So from an
> information perspective, you'd be doing yourself a disservice if you
> weren't familiar with a unix/linux flavor (not saying you aren't).
>
> Also, security is better historically (may have to check on that one.)
>
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Kakar Arunachal Service <
> kakararunachalserv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> thanks!! So, for the production purpose, one must use linux?
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Avraham Serour wrote:
>>
>>> for development purposes it shouldn't make a difference, on your server
>>> I believe ubuntu would be a better choice than windows
>>> on the other hand if your server is ubuntu some might choose to use it
>>> for development also, to be as close as possible to the production
>>> environment
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Jonas Geiregat wrote:
>>>

 On 31 May 2013, at 13:11, Kakar Arunachal Service wrote:

 > Hi!
 > I know this question is one absurd question, but just out of
 curiosity, is it important to use linux other than the windows, related to
 django. Cause i'm in windows, and if it is, then i was thinking to use
 Ubuntu. Please advise.

 The platform is unimportant, if you feel at home in windows then use
 windows else use whatever you like as long as it is supported by django.

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Re: linux or windows

[Kakar Arunachal Service]

Ok! Thank u so much!

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Re: linux or windows

[shmengie]

I use Linux for *everything* including running a windows virtual machine to 
support those who do not.

Usually google has an answer for problems that arise.  It does make easy to 
mirror production and development environments.

Never tried django on Windows, so I have no opinion re: windows.

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Re: linux or windows

[Mike Dewhirst]

On 31/05/2013 9:11pm, Kakar Arunachal Service wrote:

Hi!
I know this question is one absurd question, but just out of curiosity,
is it important to use linux other than the windows, related to django.
Cause i'm in windows, and if it is, then i was thinking to use Ubuntu.
Please advise.


I develop in Windows and have Ubuntu 12.04 staging and production 
servers. I use Windows because all my clients historically and currently 
use Windows - so I have no choice. When I was deciding on a production 
stack I read in the Apache docs at the time that it wasn't considered 
stable enough on Windows in production so I went with Linux servers. 
Don't know whether that is still the case but I don't much care having 
made my choices.


I am voluntarily using Windows as a development platform and I thank 
Python and Django developers for keeping this great open source software 
truly cross-platform.


On the other hand I don't know of anyone voluntarily using Windows as a 
Django production server platform.


Mike



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Re: linux or windows

[Javier Guerra Giraldez]

On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Mike Dewhirst  wrote:
> I don't know of anyone voluntarily using Windows as a Django production
> server platform.


not sure if it counts as "voluntarily", but if you _have_ to use MS
SQL Server, the DB client options on Linux aren't getting any better,
so soon the best option will be to put the appserver on windows too.

so it seems a very good reason to avoid MS SQL Server.  it's sad,
since that was by far the best server product from MS.  Fortunately,
the other big DBs (PostgeSQL, DB2, Oracle) count Linux frienship as a
core strategy


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Multiple Users Logged into a page at the same time

[Alan]

Hi,

For a site that I am building, I want multiple users to be able to log in 
to a page at the same time. Something with the experience being very 
similar to what we have in Google Docs where I can see the users who are 
currently logged into and are active on the page. 

I'd want to be able to display all the active users on a page.

How do I go about building this in my Django-based website?

Help and suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. :)

Thanks,
Alan

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Re: django , python and ides

[BikerJim]

I have been using Geany (http://www.geany.org/) * and I like it, but there 
are many others that are probably better or more suitable. It does have 
plugins and snippets for Python/django and you can easily create your own 
too. But over to the gurus for better advice.

* this is on Linux, but they also do the windows thing if that's your bag

Have fun,
Jim

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> Python and Django are not my first languages and currently I am using it 
> like I would a compiled language inside gedit on debian wheezy. I was 
> actually quite surprised to find a lot of people using it on windows and 
> macs when I went to my local python user group but enough digression!.
>  I was wondering if anyone using debian wheezy can recommend a nice ide 
> (hopefully opensource but if not then relatively inexpenisive) for django 
> and python?
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Re: django , python and ides

[Masklinn]

On 2013-05-31, at 12:54 , tony gair wrote:
> Python and Django are not my first languages and currently I am using it 
> like I would a compiled language inside gedit on debian wheezy. I was 
> actually quite surprised to find a lot of people using it on windows and 
> macs when I went to my local python user group but enough digression!.
> I was wondering if anyone using debian wheezy can recommend a nice ide 
> (hopefully opensource but if not then relatively inexpenisive) for django 
> and python?

PyCharm works very well, though it's not open-source. Inexpensive is
more of a relative judgement, I've found it worth the price and
jetbrains regularly does sales on their products. YMMV.

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Re: linux or windows

[Kakar Arunachal Service]

Thanks! Learned many things!


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Javier Guerra Giraldez
wrote:

> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Mike Dewhirst 
> wrote:
> > I don't know of anyone voluntarily using Windows as a Django production
> > server platform.
>
>
> not sure if it counts as "voluntarily", but if you _have_ to use MS
> SQL Server, the DB client options on Linux aren't getting any better,
> so soon the best option will be to put the appserver on windows too.
>
> so it seems a very good reason to avoid MS SQL Server.  it's sad,
> since that was by far the best server product from MS.  Fortunately,
> the other big DBs (PostgeSQL, DB2, Oracle) count Linux frienship as a
> core strategy
>
>
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Re: Multiple Users Logged into a page at the same time

[C. Kirby]

Just going of the top of my head here:
Create a model like:

class OnPage(Model):
 user = foreignkey(User)
 page = TextField()

In each of your  your views do something like:

 op, created OnPage.objects.get_or_create(user = request.user)
 op.page = thispage (The view name, the url, you can decide how to grab 
this)

You would also want an ajax call that triggers when the browser window is 
closed, running a view that does:
 try:
 OnPage.objects.get(user = request.user).delete()
 else:
 pass

On Friday, May 31, 2013 8:40:33 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> For a site that I am building, I want multiple users to be able to log in 
> to a page at the same time. Something with the experience being very 
> similar to what we have in Google Docs where I can see the users who are 
> currently logged into and are active on the page. 
>
> I'd want to be able to display all the active users on a page.
>
> How do I go about building this in my Django-based website?
>
> Help and suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. :)
>
> Thanks,
> Alan
>

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Re: Multiple Users Logged into a page at the same time

[C. Kirby]

You could also use middleware instead of the view code to do the same 
thing. That way you wouldn't have to put that code in every view

On Friday, May 31, 2013 10:06:00 AM UTC-5, C. Kirby wrote:
>
> Just going of the top of my head here:
> Create a model like:
>
> class OnPage(Model):
>  user = foreignkey(User)
>  page = TextField()
>
> In each of your  your views do something like:
>
>  op, created OnPage.objects.get_or_create(user = request.user)
>  op.page = thispage (The view name, the url, you can decide how to 
> grab this)
>
> You would also want an ajax call that triggers when the browser window is 
> closed, running a view that does:
>  try:
>  OnPage.objects.get(user = request.user).delete()
>  else:
>  pass
>
> On Friday, May 31, 2013 8:40:33 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> For a site that I am building, I want multiple users to be able to log in 
>> to a page at the same time. Something with the experience being very 
>> similar to what we have in Google Docs where I can see the users who are 
>> currently logged into and are active on the page. 
>>
>> I'd want to be able to display all the active users on a page.
>>
>> How do I go about building this in my Django-based website?
>>
>> Help and suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. :)
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alan
>>
>

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Re: request_finished signal not being called with Django 1.5.1 with uwsgi

[jaap]

I've created a ticket https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/20537

Not sure if this can be fixed in Django or a stern warning in the 
documentation can suffice.

Op donderdag 30 mei 2013 17:15:29 UTC+2 schreef ja...@eight.nl het volgende:
>
> I'm being hit by the same issue. I don't really understand why it worked 
> with older versions of Django though? That seems to be a bug.
>
> Op vrijdag 12 april 2013 01:28:42 UTC+2 schreef Lewis Sobotkiewicz het 
> volgende:
>>
>> So figured it out.
>>
>> Apparently Ubuntu 12.04 packages uwsgi 1.0.3 in their apt repository, 
>> which doesn't support calling close() on the WSGI application object 
>> returned by Django. I had installed that uWsgi version, then installed a 
>> more up-to-date version with pip. ie.
>>
>> pip install uwsgi==1.4.4
>>
>> Subsequently, running uwsgi from the command line gives the later version:
>>
>> $ uwsgi --version
>> 1.4.4
>>
>> However, when starting uwsgi with /etc/init.d/uwsgi, it was using 
>> Ubuntu's older, pre-packaged version. I assumed that pip would overwrite 
>> that version. Silly me. Fixed by editing /etc/init.d/uwsgi to point 
>> DAEMON=/usr/bin/uwsgi to the version installed by pip.
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 4:55:51 PM UTC-7, Lewis Sobotkiewicz wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> I'm noticing some strange behaviour with Django 1.5.1 and uwsgi - The 
>>> builtin signal django.core.signals.request_finished isn't being triggered. 
>>> I've tried various versions of uwsgi, and they all have the same behaviour.
>>>
>>> Also, when I downgrade to Django 1.4.5, the normal behaviour resumes.
>>>
>>> Any idea why this might be happening? It's causing my DB connections to 
>>> remain open after a request.
>>>
>>

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Re: request_finished signal not being called with Django 1.5.1 with uwsgi

[Roberto De Ioris]

> I've created a ticket https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/20537
>
> Not sure if this can be fixed in Django or a stern warning in the
> documentation can suffice.


Honestly (i am the main uWSGI author) whoever is using a uWSGI version <
1.2.6 should be worried by dozens more things (no more support, no more
security updates, known bugs, basically broken newrelic support, broken
threads and i do not even know what scary things you can find in it ...)

We are talking about a package of 2 years ago... and this specific problem
is caused by a (serious) bug in ancient uWSGI releases with WSGI specs, so
why django should bother ?


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Re: problem with extending django registration form

[Okorie Emmanuel]

On Thursday, May 30, 2013 2:08:46 PM UTC+1, Tundebabzy wrote:
>
> Hi, 
> Have you been able to sort out this issue? 
> Why don't you create your own backend and shoe horn it into 
> django-registration. You'll need to implement register, activate, 
> registration_allowed, get_form_class, post_registration_redirect and 
> post_activation_redirect methods (as needed) though. 
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone 
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Okorie Emmanuel 
> Sent: 5/21/2013 3:04 PM 
> To: django...@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: problem with extending django registration form 
>
> hi 
>
> I have tried extending django registration page with little progress. 
> I can now add new user from the admin but cannot do that on the 
> front end. the problem is that the url does not display the from, 
> but raises exception, "the page cannot be found". Do I need to create a 
> view.py 
> to be able to use  django registration app? 
>
> here is my code 
>
> http://pastebin.com/JBa8J1ry 
>
> is there anything i have not 
>



thanks tundebabzy for your reply

I have not solved the problem 
The issue is that i don't understand how to implement the backend like you 
suggest
can you give me a clue on this. thanks
  

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Developer for help on a project

[Eric Psalmond]

Hi Django-users,

I'm looking for an experienced django-dev to help me out on my first 
django-project.  It's a 1.5 w/ custom user model, facebook and google+ 
integration, and a REST API for passing messages between users on native 
phone apps.  Nothing too crazy.

Thus far it is mostly "working" and the models are laid out, with some 
workflows complete end-to-end, but I keep running into django-newbie 
problems and need to get this baby out the door.  So I'm looking for 
someone to help.

Code is on GitHub.  PM or email me your hourly rates and availability and 
we'll chat.

Thanks!
-Eric

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Re: linux or windows

[Chris Lawlor]

Django itself is completely platform agnostic. Years ago I used to develop 
on Windows, and typically where I would run into problems was trying to 
find binaries for third party libraries like PIL and psycopg2. They'd 
usually be available from somewhere or another, thanks to some kindhearted 
soul who managed to build them and shared the binaries online, just 
difficult to track down. Building from source is certainly possible, but 
setting up the correct toolchain for a successful build is a non-trivial 
endeavor. This may have improved in the last few years though, I couldn't 
say.

Also (and this isn't directly related), the awesome virtualenvwrapper, 
which is a core part of my workflow nowadays, is not available in Windows, 
Virtualenv itself does work on Windows though.

Personally, I think it is best to develop on a system as close to your 
production environment as possible. It's certainly possible to develop on 
Windows, and deploy to Linux (or vice-versa), but you increase your risk of 
encountering bugs that only occur on one platform, which can be difficult 
to troubleshoot.

On Friday, 31 May 2013 07:11:23 UTC-4, Kakar wrote:
>
> Hi!
> I know this question is one absurd question, but just out of curiosity, is 
> it important to use linux other than the windows, related to django. Cause 
> i'm in windows, and if it is, then i was thinking to use Ubuntu. Please 
> advise.
>  

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Re: linux or windows

[Jason Arnst-Goodrich]

I'd just like to chime in as another "develop on windows, deploy to linux" 
guys. It's worked fine for me for years. Like people have said, sometimes 
it's hard to get certain libraries for Windows installed but it's usually 
not to hard to find a packaged solution if you google (and in simple 
projects, pip install works for just about everything).


On Friday, May 31, 2013 4:11:23 AM UTC-7, Kakar wrote:
>
> Hi!
> I know this question is one absurd question, but just out of curiosity, is 
> it important to use linux other than the windows, related to django. Cause 
> i'm in windows, and if it is, then i was thinking to use Ubuntu. Please 
> advise.
>  

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RE: problem with extending django registration form

[Babatunde Akinyanmi]

I'm guessing you want to store more information than default registration
allows you to when signing up users.

First hijack the URL for displaying the registration form so go to your
urls.py file and add this:

from path.to.form import CustomForm

urlpatterns = patterns('',
#hijack this from registration
url(r'^accounts/register/$', 'registration.views.register',
{
 'backend':'path.to.custom.CustomBackend'},
name='registration_register'),
url(r'^accounts/', include('registration.backends.default.urls')),
...
)

In your CustomBackend, your `get_form_class` method should return the form
that you want for registering users. Your register and activate methods
should take care of saving additional information to your defined User
Profile. The work flow of Registration's DefaultBackend class
(registration.backends.default) is usually sufficient so backend can just
inherit from it.

Check registration's source for inspiration and holla if you still need
assistance.

Sent from my Windows Phone
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Subject: Re: problem with extending django registration form



On Thursday, May 30, 2013 2:08:46 PM UTC+1, Tundebabzy wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Have you been able to sort out this issue?
> Why don't you create your own backend and shoe horn it into
> django-registration. You'll need to implement register, activate,
> registration_allowed, get_form_class, post_registration_redirect and
> post_activation_redirect methods (as needed) though.
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Okorie Emmanuel
> Sent: 5/21/2013 3:04 PM
> To: django...@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: problem with extending django registration form
>
> hi
>
> I have tried extending django registration page with little progress.
> I can now add new user from the admin but cannot do that on the
> front end. the problem is that the url does not display the from,
> but raises exception, "the page cannot be found". Do I need to create a
> view.py
> to be able to use  django registration app?
>
> here is my code
>
> http://pastebin.com/JBa8J1ry
>
> is there anything i have not
>



thanks tundebabzy for your reply

I have not solved the problem
The issue is that i don't understand how to implement the backend like you
suggest
can you give me a clue on this. thanks


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Re: django , python and ides

[Nikolas Stevenson-Molnar]

+1 for PyCharm. I know many here like Sublime Text also (though it's a
super text editor, not an IDE). Neither are open source, but both work
hard to earn the $$ you spend on them.

_Nik

On 5/31/2013 7:19 AM, Masklinn wrote:
> On 2013-05-31, at 12:54 , tony gair wrote:
>> Python and Django are not my first languages and currently I am using it 
>> like I would a compiled language inside gedit on debian wheezy. I was 
>> actually quite surprised to find a lot of people using it on windows and 
>> macs when I went to my local python user group but enough digression!.
>> I was wondering if anyone using debian wheezy can recommend a nice ide 
>> (hopefully opensource but if not then relatively inexpenisive) for django 
>> and python?
> PyCharm works very well, though it's not open-source. Inexpensive is
> more of a relative judgement, I've found it worth the price and
> jetbrains regularly does sales on their products. YMMV.
>

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Developing Django Apps - best practices?

[Chris Lawlor]

All,

I'd like to get some feedback from the community on the current best 
practices for developing standalone Django apps. To clarify, by 
'standalone' I mean a codebase that is just the application itself, to be 
installed into a Django project via setup.py / pip, not working on the app 
directly within a Django project. It seems that people love to discuss 
ideas related to projects (layout, settings, etc.), but I haven't seen much 
discussion focusing on app development.

For example, do you have some boilerplate that you use when starting a new 
app? For projects, we have project templates, but as far as I'm aware there 
is no particular application boilerplate that is in wide use.

Here are some other questions you might consider:

* How do you organize tests? Do you include a test project?

* How do you link your standalone apps to your current projects? Install 
via pip, add the app src directory to your PYTHONPATH, something else?

* What tools / libraries / other resources do you find most useful?

There is some documentation on the topic here (
https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/intro/reusable-apps/), which is a 
great start, but it glosses over deployment and completely ignores testing.

My goal here is simply to start a discussion. Hopefully, if some general 
consensus emerges, we might identify some ideas that could possibly be 
documented elsewhere, whether we inspire a blog post or add to the Django 
documentation itself.

Thank you,

Chris

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Re: django , python and ides

[Chris Lawlor]

Joey,

Would you be interested in sharing your virtualenvwrapper setup? I assume 
you're using some custom postactivate hooks, looks nice.

Chris

On Friday, 31 May 2013 14:23:23 UTC-4, JoeLinux wrote:
>
> I've used both PyCharm and SublimeText extensively for months each at a 
> time,
> and I swap back and forth every now and then just to see how the other is 
> doing.
>
> PyCharm:
>
> Pros vs Sublime:
>
> - Everything in one package (almost)
>
> - Debugging capabilities are excellent and built-in
>
> - 
> Virtualenv support and library inspection
>
> Sublime:
>
> Pros vs PyCharm:
>
> - Fast. Fast, fast, fast! Almost every 
> shortcut/function/correction/refactoring/feature happens faster in Sublime 
> than PyCharm (sometimes by orders of magnitude)
>
> - Vintage (Sublime's Vim keymap) is WAY better than IdeaVIM (PyCharm's). 
> Vim support is crucial for me.
>
> - Fonts and colors and animations and basically anything your eyes can 
> look at is ten times more pleasing to the eyes than in PyCharm (Java font 
> rendering is laughably bad)
>
>
> PyCharm cons:
>
> - Slow
>
> - If you quit/close/upgrade/kill while it's indexing, you'll screw it up 
> and have to select "Invalidate Caches"
>
> - Environment variables are not always handled correctly (this will really 
> frustrate you sometimes), and you'll have to define them yourself, or toss 
> them in your virtualenv's postactivate script
>
> - Costs $99, with a $59 annual renewal fee
>
>
> Sublime cons:
>
> - You are responsible for your own environment (this means runserver, 
> debugging, etc)
>
> - Autocompletion does not always work the way you want it to (I've had 
> snippets, Emmet, and CodeIntel conflict with each other many times)
>
> - Costs $70 (though it's a one-time fee, compared to PyCharm... and you 
> don't HAVE to pay to use it, as long as you ignore the occasional prompt)
>
>
> One note about Sublime: the first "con" is a big one, because most people 
> don't want to set up their development environment in pieces (I felt the 
> same way at first). However, over time I've learned to love that very 
> aspect, and I appreciate how everything works together better now. I am 
> more content now to leave those programs that are good at something to do 
> what they're good at, rather than let an IDE like PyCharm do it not-as-good 
> (Mercurial support is virtually unusable, for instance). Instead, I've 
> grabbed a few tips from around the web, come up with a few of my own, and 
> now when I drop to the command line and type "workon ", I'll 
> be greeted with a custom prompt, and a GNU Screen session with several open 
> (and labeled) windows indicating to me what is available in each one 
> (including a runserver, and a Python shell with my virtualenv/Django 
> environment loaded and every installed app/model automatically imported). 
> Looks something like this:
>
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> (I blurred a few things out because I'm working on a project that isn't 
> public yet)
>
>
> The prompt shows me my user account and computer name, my current 
> directory, and my current branch (works on both Mercurial and Git, so I 
> don't have to do anything special depending on the scm tool I'm using). A 
> little lightning bolt will show up next to the branch name to indicate that 
> I have uncommitted changes, which is pretty cool. Also, it's multi-line, so 
> I have the entire width of the terminal to work on.
>
> The bottom bar is my "info bar". It has the name of the project on the 
> left (or initials or whatever), then a list of windows and their names, my 
> computer name, my system load, the date, and time.
>
>
> So day-to-day, I now use SublimeText pretty much exclusively. Sometimes 
> (rarely, but it does happen), I open up PyCharm, but usually only if I 
> desperately need to debug Python variables in the middle of rendering a 
> Django template. It's pretty good for that. Otherwise, Sublime is amazing.
>
>
> Especially amazing if you watch this video in its entirety and learn about 
> SublimeText thoroughly: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ-bgcJ6fQo
>
> HTH
>
> --
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> Python Developer
> http://about.me/joelinux
> On May 31, 2013 1:23 PM, "Nikolas Stevenson-Molnar" 
> > 
> wrote:
>
>> +1 for PyCharm. I know many here like Sublime Text also (though it's a
>> super text editor, not an IDE). Neither are open source, but both work
>> hard to earn the $$ you spend on them.
>>
>> _Nik
>>
>> On 5/31/2013 7:19 AM, Masklinn wrote:
>> > On 2013-05-31, at 12:54 , tony gair wrote:
>> >> Python and Django are not my first languages and currently I am using 
>> it
>> >> like I would a compiled language inside gedit on debian wheezy. I was
>> >> actually quite surprised to find a lot of people using it on windows 
>> and
>> >> macs when I went to my local python user group but enough digression!.
>> >> I was wondering if anyone using debian wheezy can recommend a nice ide
>> >> (hopefully opensource but if not then relatively 

Re: request_finished signal not being called with Django 1.5.1 with uwsgi

[jaap]

The problem is mainly that the current LTS of Ubuntu ships this ancient version 
of uwsgi via apt. So it's very easy to end up with a system that's not capable 
of running Django 1.5 properly (sysadmins seem to prefer apt over pip). Seems 
sensible to at least specify the minimum uWSGI version in the docs, kind of 
like the minimum python version.

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Re: django , python and ides

[Ezequiel Bertti]

+1 pycharm


On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Chris Lawlor wrote:

> Joey,
>
> Would you be interested in sharing your virtualenvwrapper setup? I assume
> you're using some custom postactivate hooks, looks nice.
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Friday, 31 May 2013 14:23:23 UTC-4, JoeLinux wrote:
>
>> I've used both PyCharm and SublimeText extensively for months each at a
>> time,
>> and I swap back and forth every now and then just to see how the other is
>> doing.
>>
>> PyCharm:
>>
>> Pros vs Sublime:
>>
>> - Everything in one package (almost)
>>
>> - Debugging capabilities are excellent and built-in
>>
>> -
>> Virtualenv support and library inspection
>>
>> Sublime:
>>
>> Pros vs PyCharm:
>>
>> - Fast. Fast, fast, fast! Almost every 
>> shortcut/function/correction/**refactoring/feature
>> happens faster in Sublime than PyCharm (sometimes by orders of magnitude)
>>
>> - Vintage (Sublime's Vim keymap) is WAY better than IdeaVIM (PyCharm's).
>> Vim support is crucial for me.
>>
>> - Fonts and colors and animations and basically anything your eyes can
>> look at is ten times more pleasing to the eyes than in PyCharm (Java font
>> rendering is laughably bad)
>>
>>
>> PyCharm cons:
>>
>> - Slow
>>
>> - If you quit/close/upgrade/kill while it's indexing, you'll screw it up
>> and have to select "Invalidate Caches"
>>
>> - Environment variables are not always handled correctly (this will
>> really frustrate you sometimes), and you'll have to define them yourself,
>> or toss them in your virtualenv's postactivate script
>>
>> - Costs $99, with a $59 annual renewal fee
>>
>>
>> Sublime cons:
>>
>> - You are responsible for your own environment (this means runserver,
>> debugging, etc)
>>
>> - Autocompletion does not always work the way you want it to (I've had
>> snippets, Emmet, and CodeIntel conflict with each other many times)
>>
>> - Costs $70 (though it's a one-time fee, compared to PyCharm... and you
>> don't HAVE to pay to use it, as long as you ignore the occasional prompt)
>>
>>
>> One note about Sublime: the first "con" is a big one, because most people
>> don't want to set up their development environment in pieces (I felt the
>> same way at first). However, over time I've learned to love that very
>> aspect, and I appreciate how everything works together better now. I am
>> more content now to leave those programs that are good at something to do
>> what they're good at, rather than let an IDE like PyCharm do it not-as-good
>> (Mercurial support is virtually unusable, for instance). Instead, I've
>> grabbed a few tips from around the web, come up with a few of my own, and
>> now when I drop to the command line and type "workon ", I'll
>> be greeted with a custom prompt, and a GNU Screen session with several open
>> (and labeled) windows indicating to me what is available in each one
>> (including a runserver, and a Python shell with my virtualenv/Django
>> environment loaded and every installed app/model automatically imported).
>> Looks something like this:
>>
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> (I blurred a few things out because I'm working on a project that isn't
>> public yet)
>>
>>
>> The prompt shows me my user account and computer name, my current
>> directory, and my current branch (works on both Mercurial and Git, so I
>> don't have to do anything special depending on the scm tool I'm using). A
>> little lightning bolt will show up next to the branch name to indicate that
>> I have uncommitted changes, which is pretty cool. Also, it's multi-line, so
>> I have the entire width of the terminal to work on.
>>
>> The bottom bar is my "info bar". It has the name of the project on the
>> left (or initials or whatever), then a list of windows and their names, my
>> computer name, my system load, the date, and time.
>>
>>
>> So day-to-day, I now use SublimeText pretty much exclusively. Sometimes
>> (rarely, but it does happen), I open up PyCharm, but usually only if I
>> desperately need to debug Python variables in the middle of rendering a
>> Django template. It's pretty good for that. Otherwise, Sublime is amazing.
>>
>>
>> Especially amazing if you watch this video in its entirety and learn
>> about SublimeText thoroughly: http://www.**youtube.com/watch?v=TZ-**
>> bgcJ6fQo 
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> --
>> Joey "JoeLinux" Espinosa
>> Python Developer
>> http://about.me/joelinux
>> On May 31, 2013 1:23 PM, "Nikolas Stevenson-Molnar" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  +1 for PyCharm. I know many here like Sublime Text also (though it's a
>>> super text editor, not an IDE). Neither are open source, but both work
>>> hard to earn the $$ you spend on them.
>>>
>>> _Nik
>>>
>>> On 5/31/2013 7:19 AM, Masklinn wrote:
>>> > On 2013-05-31, at 12:54 , tony gair wrote:
>>> >> Python and Django are not my first languages and currently I am using
>>> it
>>> >> like I would a compiled language inside gedit on debian wheezy. I was
>>> >> actually quite surprised to find a lot of people using it on windows
>>

Re: django , python and ides

[Rafael E. Ferrero]

I use Aptana... Ninja its good too


2013/5/31 Ezequiel Bertti 

> +1 pycharm
>
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:39 PM, Chris Lawlor wrote:
>
>> Joey,
>>
>> Would you be interested in sharing your virtualenvwrapper setup? I assume
>> you're using some custom postactivate hooks, looks nice.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On Friday, 31 May 2013 14:23:23 UTC-4, JoeLinux wrote:
>>
>>> I've used both PyCharm and SublimeText extensively for months each at a
>>> time,
>>> and I swap back and forth every now and then just to see how the other
>>> is doing.
>>>
>>> PyCharm:
>>>
>>> Pros vs Sublime:
>>>
>>> - Everything in one package (almost)
>>>
>>> - Debugging capabilities are excellent and built-in
>>>
>>> -
>>> Virtualenv support and library inspection
>>>
>>> Sublime:
>>>
>>> Pros vs PyCharm:
>>>
>>> - Fast. Fast, fast, fast! Almost every 
>>> shortcut/function/correction/**refactoring/feature
>>> happens faster in Sublime than PyCharm (sometimes by orders of magnitude)
>>>
>>> - Vintage (Sublime's Vim keymap) is WAY better than IdeaVIM (PyCharm's).
>>> Vim support is crucial for me.
>>>
>>> - Fonts and colors and animations and basically anything your eyes can
>>> look at is ten times more pleasing to the eyes than in PyCharm (Java font
>>> rendering is laughably bad)
>>>
>>>
>>> PyCharm cons:
>>>
>>> - Slow
>>>
>>> - If you quit/close/upgrade/kill while it's indexing, you'll screw it up
>>> and have to select "Invalidate Caches"
>>>
>>> - Environment variables are not always handled correctly (this will
>>> really frustrate you sometimes), and you'll have to define them yourself,
>>> or toss them in your virtualenv's postactivate script
>>>
>>> - Costs $99, with a $59 annual renewal fee
>>>
>>>
>>> Sublime cons:
>>>
>>> - You are responsible for your own environment (this means runserver,
>>> debugging, etc)
>>>
>>> - Autocompletion does not always work the way you want it to (I've had
>>> snippets, Emmet, and CodeIntel conflict with each other many times)
>>>
>>> - Costs $70 (though it's a one-time fee, compared to PyCharm... and you
>>> don't HAVE to pay to use it, as long as you ignore the occasional prompt)
>>>
>>>
>>> One note about Sublime: the first "con" is a big one, because most
>>> people don't want to set up their development environment in pieces (I felt
>>> the same way at first). However, over time I've learned to love that very
>>> aspect, and I appreciate how everything works together better now. I am
>>> more content now to leave those programs that are good at something to do
>>> what they're good at, rather than let an IDE like PyCharm do it not-as-good
>>> (Mercurial support is virtually unusable, for instance). Instead, I've
>>> grabbed a few tips from around the web, come up with a few of my own, and
>>> now when I drop to the command line and type "workon ", I'll
>>> be greeted with a custom prompt, and a GNU Screen session with several open
>>> (and labeled) windows indicating to me what is available in each one
>>> (including a runserver, and a Python shell with my virtualenv/Django
>>> environment loaded and every installed app/model automatically imported).
>>> Looks something like this:
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>
>>> (I blurred a few things out because I'm working on a project that isn't
>>> public yet)
>>>
>>>
>>> The prompt shows me my user account and computer name, my current
>>> directory, and my current branch (works on both Mercurial and Git, so I
>>> don't have to do anything special depending on the scm tool I'm using). A
>>> little lightning bolt will show up next to the branch name to indicate that
>>> I have uncommitted changes, which is pretty cool. Also, it's multi-line, so
>>> I have the entire width of the terminal to work on.
>>>
>>> The bottom bar is my "info bar". It has the name of the project on the
>>> left (or initials or whatever), then a list of windows and their names, my
>>> computer name, my system load, the date, and time.
>>>
>>>
>>> So day-to-day, I now use SublimeText pretty much exclusively. Sometimes
>>> (rarely, but it does happen), I open up PyCharm, but usually only if I
>>> desperately need to debug Python variables in the middle of rendering a
>>> Django template. It's pretty good for that. Otherwise, Sublime is amazing.
>>>
>>>
>>> Especially amazing if you watch this video in its entirety and learn
>>> about SublimeText thoroughly: http://www.**youtube.com/watch?v=TZ-**
>>> bgcJ6fQo 
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> --
>>> Joey "JoeLinux" Espinosa
>>> Python Developer
>>> http://about.me/joelinux
>>> On May 31, 2013 1:23 PM, "Nikolas Stevenson-Molnar" <
>>> nik.m...@consbio.org> wrote:
>>>
  +1 for PyCharm. I know many here like Sublime Text also (though it's a
 super text editor, not an IDE). Neither are open source, but both work
 hard to earn the $$ you spend on them.

 _Nik

 On 5/31/2013 7:19 AM, Masklinn wrote:
 > On 2013-05-31, at 12:54 , tony gair wrote:
 >> Python 

Re: django , python and ides

[Joey Espinosa]

Sure thing :) I'll even give you the stuff that makes my prompt and all
that:

$HOME/.bashrc (partial): http://collabedit.com/bnxfx

/bin/postactivate: http://collabedit.com/6bvfr

$HOME/.screenrc-: http://collabedit.com/kuj8d

Enjoy!

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*




On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Chris Lawlor wrote:

> Joey,
>
> Would you be interested in sharing your virtualenvwrapper setup? I assume
> you're using some custom postactivate hooks, looks nice.
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Friday, 31 May 2013 14:23:23 UTC-4, JoeLinux wrote:
>
>> I've used both PyCharm and SublimeText extensively for months each at a
>> time,
>>  and I swap back and forth every now and then just to see how the other
>> is doing.
>>
>> PyCharm:
>>
>> Pros vs Sublime:
>>
>> - Everything in one package (almost)
>>
>> - Debugging capabilities are excellent and built-in
>>
>> -
>> Virtualenv support and library inspection
>>
>> Sublime:
>>
>> Pros vs PyCharm:
>>
>> - Fast. Fast, fast, fast! Almost every 
>> shortcut/function/correction/**refactoring/feature
>> happens faster in Sublime than PyCharm (sometimes by orders of magnitude)
>>
>> - Vintage (Sublime's Vim keymap) is WAY better than IdeaVIM (PyCharm's).
>> Vim support is crucial for me.
>>
>> - Fonts and colors and animations and basically anything your eyes can
>> look at is ten times more pleasing to the eyes than in PyCharm (Java font
>> rendering is laughably bad)
>>
>>
>> PyCharm cons:
>>
>> - Slow
>>
>> - If you quit/close/upgrade/kill while it's indexing, you'll screw it up
>> and have to select "Invalidate Caches"
>>
>> - Environment variables are not always handled correctly (this will
>> really frustrate you sometimes), and you'll have to define them yourself,
>> or toss them in your virtualenv's postactivate script
>>
>> - Costs $99, with a $59 annual renewal fee
>>
>>
>> Sublime cons:
>>
>> - You are responsible for your own environment (this means runserver,
>> debugging, etc)
>>
>> - Autocompletion does not always work the way you want it to (I've had
>> snippets, Emmet, and CodeIntel conflict with each other many times)
>>
>> - Costs $70 (though it's a one-time fee, compared to PyCharm... and you
>> don't HAVE to pay to use it, as long as you ignore the occasional prompt)
>>
>>
>> One note about Sublime: the first "con" is a big one, because most people
>> don't want to set up their development environment in pieces (I felt the
>> same way at first). However, over time I've learned to love that very
>> aspect, and I appreciate how everything works together better now. I am
>> more content now to leave those programs that are good at something to do
>> what they're good at, rather than let an IDE like PyCharm do it not-as-good
>> (Mercurial support is virtually unusable, for instance). Instead, I've
>> grabbed a few tips from around the web, come up with a few of my own, and
>> now when I drop to the command line and type "workon ", I'll
>> be greeted with a custom prompt, and a GNU Screen session with several open
>> (and labeled) windows indicating to me what is available in each one
>> (including a runserver, and a Python shell with my virtualenv/Django
>> environment loaded and every installed app/model automatically imported).
>> Looks something like this:
>>
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> (I blurred a few things out because I'm working on a project that isn't
>> public yet)
>>
>>
>> The prompt shows me my user account and computer name, my current
>> directory, and my current branch (works on both Mercurial and Git, so I
>> don't have to do anything special depending on the scm tool I'm using). A
>> little lightning bolt will show up next to the branch name to indicate that
>> I have uncommitted changes, which is pretty cool. Also, it's multi-line, so
>> I have the entire width of the terminal to work on.
>>
>> The bottom bar is my "info bar". It has the name of the project on the
>> left (or initials or whatever), then a list of windows and their names, my
>> computer name, my system load, the date, and time.
>>
>>
>> So day-to-day, I now use SublimeText pretty much exclusively. Sometimes
>> (rarely, but it does happen), I open up PyCharm, but usually only if I
>> desperately need to debug Python variables in the middle of rendering a
>> Django template. It's pretty good for that. Otherwise, Sublime is amazing.
>>
>>
>> Especially amazing if you watch this video in its entirety and learn
>> about SublimeText thoroughly: http://www.**youtube.com/watch?v=TZ-**
>> bgcJ6fQo 
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> --
>> Joey "JoeLinux" Espinosa
>> Python Developer
>> http://about.me/joelinux
>> On May 31, 2013 1:23 PM, "Nikolas Stevenson-Molnar" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  +1 for PyCharm. I know many here like Sublime Text also (though it's a
>>> super text editor, not an IDE). Neither are open source, but both work
>>> hard to earn the $$ you spen

Re: linux or windows

[phil...@bailey.st]

Hi Kakar,

if you want to use Linux within Window, I strongly advise you to
use Vagrant http://docs-v1.vagrantup.com/v1/docs/getting-started/

Vagrant will bring up and running a Linux virtual server within minutes.

Best,

Phillip


On 31/05/13 12:11, Kakar Arunachal Service wrote:
> Hi!
> I know this question is one absurd question, but just out of curiosity,
> is it important to use linux other than the windows, related to django.
> Cause i'm in windows, and if it is, then i was thinking to use Ubuntu.
> Please advise.
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Re: linux or windows

[phil...@bailey.st]

forgot to include a vagrant video how-to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiRMvB65U1Y

Best,

Phillip


On 31/05/13 21:53, phil...@bailey.st wrote:
> Hi Kakar,
> 
> if you want to use Linux within Window, I strongly advise you to
> use Vagrant http://docs-v1.vagrantup.com/v1/docs/getting-started/
> 
> Vagrant will bring up and running a Linux virtual server within minutes.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Phillip
> 
> 
> On 31/05/13 12:11, Kakar Arunachal Service wrote:
>> Hi!
>> I know this question is one absurd question, but just out of curiosity,
>> is it important to use linux other than the windows, related to django.
>> Cause i'm in windows, and if it is, then i was thinking to use Ubuntu.
>> Please advise.
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Re: Workshop: Don't Be Afraid to Commit, Cardiff, UK

[Daniele Procida]

On Fri, May 31, 2013, Rahul Ramesh  wrote:

>I think what you're doing is really great. Do you have recorded videos
>available online or do you plan to record your next session? It'd be great
>for people like me who can't attend the workshop.

I don't think that a recording of it would work well, but the tutorial 
documentation  should work 
just as well without me. 

Everything in the workshop's in there, and I wrote it all step-by-step. You 
could try that. From the start the idea was that people should be able to use 
the document as an alternative to attending the workshop.

I'm on the #django irc channel on irc.freenode.net most of the time, as either 
EvilDMP or SuperDMP, so feel free to call on me for help if you need it.

Daniele

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Re: linux or windows

[Nikolas Stevenson-Molnar]

Same here. In a perfect world I'd develop on Mac and deploy to Linux, as
compiling anything on Windows is a pain and the command prompt is a
sorry excuse for a shell (yes, I could use cygwin, and do at times...).
Can't use pip to install anything with a compile step. Once you have
everything installed, it's not bad.

_Nik

On 5/31/2013 9:19 AM, Jason Arnst-Goodrich wrote:
> I'd just like to chime in as another "develop on windows, deploy to
> linux" guys. It's worked fine for me for years. Like people have said,
> sometimes it's hard to get certain libraries for Windows installed but
> it's usually not to hard to find a packaged solution if you google
> (and in simple projects, pip install works for just about everything).
>
>
> On Friday, May 31, 2013 4:11:23 AM UTC-7, Kakar wrote:
>
> Hi!
> I know this question is one absurd question, but just out of
> curiosity, is it important to use linux other than the windows,
> related to django. Cause i'm in windows, and if it is, then i was
> thinking to use Ubuntu. Please advise.
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Re: linux or windows

[Jamie Lawrence]

I don't count this as 'voluntary', except in the sense that I wasn't forced at 
the point of a gun, but I can say that it is possible to back a Django site 
with SQL Server. I do not recommend it, and the details vary based on which 
particular stack you are running. 

My recommendations are: don't, if you don't have to; if you do, pay attention 
to your firewall, and do not blindly apply OS patches. Of course, the same can 
be said for any of the Unix flavors, but production Windows is substantially 
less pleasant to administer, in my experience, and the patch policy reflects 
limiting Microsoft's exposure to bad press, which is not the same thing as 
production sites' best interest. 

This is my own opinion, I do not speak for anyone else.

-j

On May 31, 2013, at 6:27 AM, Javier Guerra Giraldez  wrote:

> On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Mike Dewhirst  wrote:
>> I don't know of anyone voluntarily using Windows as a Django production
>> server platform.
> 
> 
> not sure if it counts as "voluntarily", but if you _have_ to use MS
> SQL Server, the DB client options on Linux aren't getting any better,
> so soon the best option will be to put the appserver on windows too.
> 
> so it seems a very good reason to avoid MS SQL Server.  it's sad,
> since that was by far the best server product from MS.  Fortunately,
> the other big DBs (PostgeSQL, DB2, Oracle) count Linux frienship as a
> core strategy
> 
> 
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(error) tutorial 2: local admin page not working

[Issam Laradji]

After setting up the database using the command:

"python manage.py syncdb"

I ran "python manage.py runserver" to launch the server

But then when I try open the admin page " http://127.0.0.1:8000/admin/";

I keep getting this error,  


Of course, you haven't actually done any work yet. Here's what to do next:

   - If you plan to use a database, edit the DATABASES setting in 
   mysite/settings.py.
   - Start your first app by running python manage.py startapp [appname].

You're seeing this message because you have DEBUG = True in your Django 
settings file and you haven't configured any URLs. Get to work!


Thanks in advance...

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SQL from Model ?

[Josueh]

hi!
is possible generate the SQL ("create table/index/") in hardcode?
example:
class Book(models.Model):
title = models.CharField(...)
price = models.DecimalField(...)
print django_generate_sql_model( Book )  # <--- here

??   anyway?  idea?

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Django & Ember

[JJ Zolper]

Hello,

So I'm thinking about bundling together Django and Ember. The reason is my 
front end is going to be lots of data in realtime. Think like overlaying a 
map with information for an example. Lots of data needs to be handled on 
the front end. Things need to be extremely dynamic.

I love Django and the interface with the database and all that. I'm 
thinking a powerful solution might be tagging Django and Ember together. 
Has anyone done this? Anyone have any advice? My questions really are (like 
the questions on my mind are) like lets say I query the database and get 
this resulting queryset or list in a variable. In Django you hand that list 
off to the template. Like I'm not sure how to hand things back and forth 
between Django and Ember. How I would hand the result from the query to 
Ember aka JS and then display that to the front end.

Does this sound like a powerful solution for handling large amounts of 
data? Really any information would be wonderful, better than nothing for 
sure...

I need high performance and power for processing quickly and giving the 
users a seamless experience and I'm wondering if this might be the ticket?

Thanks so much,

JJ Zolper

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Re: (error) tutorial 2: local admin page not working

[Nigel Legg]

Doesn't what you have posted tell you enough of what you need to do?

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On 1 June 2013 00:20, Issam Laradji  wrote:

> After setting up the database using the command:
>
> "python manage.py syncdb"
>
> I ran "python manage.py runserver" to launch the server
>
> But then when I try open the admin page " http://127.0.0.1:8000/admin/";
>
> I keep getting this error,
>
>
> Of course, you haven't actually done any work yet. Here's what to do next:
>
>- If you plan to use a database, edit the DATABASES setting in
>mysite/settings.py.
>- Start your first app by running python manage.py startapp [appname].
>
> You're seeing this message because you have DEBUG = True in your Django
> settings file and you haven't configured any URLs. Get to work!
>
>
> Thanks in advance...
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