[Discuss-gnuradio] Problem with bbn_80211b_tx.py

2007-11-26 Thread Jacopo
Hi, I'm try to use BBN module (on ubuntu platform) to trasmit to usrp.

I use the example code given by BBN, I print the result of:

./bbn_80211b_tx.py

Using TX d'board B: Flex 2400 Tx MIMO B
>>> gr_fir_ccf: using SSE
spb:   8
interp:   32


Why I can't see any packet at the receiver?
Where is the error?

Thanks


Mori Jacopo
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[Discuss-gnuradio] BasicTX / LFTX transmit power

2007-11-26 Thread Martin Braun
Hi,

I'd like to connect a USRP to some other hardware for further signal 
processing and analysis (a R&S SMU200 and FSQ, if that's any help). Trouble 
is, I couldn't find anything about the power output of the BasicTX and LFTX 
d'boards... Can someone please give me some figures of how many dBm I can 
expect? Has anyone done something similar successfully?

Thanks, and have nice week,

Martin
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Institut fuer Nachrichtentechnik
Universitaet Karlsruhe

http://www.int.uni-karlsruhe.de


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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Soft-DVB working flawlessly

2007-11-26 Thread John Clark

John Gilmore schrieb:

I can already think of one use that others can make of your
transmitter.  EFF and I are interested in measuring the DRM responses
of various digital television consumer products.  DRM is the
unnecessary restrictions that are built in to control what consumers
can do.  (Like no fast forwarding; won't play in some countries; or
only works with one manufacturer's products.)  DVB is really thick
with complicated, ugly restrictions like "can only record one copy --
only on Tuesdays and only within 1000 meters or with members of your
immediate family except for kids of divorced parents".  I bet there is
a lot of variation in the products that try to enforce it -- and maybe
some don't even try.
  


Those 'family' options will only be available after having you and yours 
updated (apparently evolution never

thought of that option...) with intracranial RFID chips...


But that aside... having the ability to do DVB would then allow one to 
modify the signal with the idea of
simulating various distortions that occur in broadcast... is there an 
ATSC 8VSB modulator?



John Clark.



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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Soft-DVB working flawlessly

2007-11-26 Thread Chuck Swiger

Quoting John Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


John Gilmore schrieb:

I can already think of one use that others can make of your
transmitter.  EFF and I are interested in measuring the DRM responses


I am interested in a dvb-s receiver, but if I understand correctly  
most open/free satellite transponders are wider than our current 8MHz  
bandwidth.


http://www.lyngsat.com/freetv/United-States.html

--Chuck




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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Soft-DVB working flawlessly

2007-11-26 Thread Vincenzo Pellegrini
Hi,

sorry I just have DVB-T at the moment..

for John Gilmore, I have just seen your email in GNURadio archive.
For some strange reason i had missed it. Really thanks for your words of
enthusiastic appreciation.

Currently I'm cleaning the code with the purpose of approaching
real-time on my current sempron-based single core pc. As soon as the
code will be not just working but also clean and quick, I'll start a
proper contribution procedure.. :)

best regards 

vincenzo



On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 09:50 -0800, John Clark wrote:
> John Gilmore schrieb:
> > I can already think of one use that others can make of your
> > transmitter.  EFF and I are interested in measuring the DRM responses
> > of various digital television consumer products.  DRM is the
> > unnecessary restrictions that are built in to control what consumers
> > can do.  (Like no fast forwarding; won't play in some countries; or
> > only works with one manufacturer's products.)  DVB is really thick
> > with complicated, ugly restrictions like "can only record one copy --
> > only on Tuesdays and only within 1000 meters or with members of your
> > immediate family except for kids of divorced parents".  I bet there is
> > a lot of variation in the products that try to enforce it -- and maybe
> > some don't even try.
> >   
> 
> Those 'family' options will only be available after having you and yours 
> updated (apparently evolution never
> thought of that option...) with intracranial RFID chips...
> 
> 
> But that aside... having the ability to do DVB would then allow one to 
> modify the signal with the idea of
> simulating various distortions that occur in broadcast... is there an 
> ATSC 8VSB modulator?
> 
> 
> John Clark.
> 



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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Soft-DVB working flawlessly

2007-11-26 Thread John Clark

Vincenzo Pellegrini schrieb:

Hi,

sorry I just have DVB-T at the moment..

for John Gilmore, I have just seen your email in GNURadio archive.
For some strange reason i had missed it. Really thanks for your words of
enthusiastic appreciation.

Currently I'm cleaning the code with the purpose of approaching
real-time on my current sempron-based single core pc. As soon as the
code will be not just working but also clean and quick, I'll start a
proper contribution procedure.. :)


While in the recent past most of my interest has been directed to the US 
DTV... I would like to see

DVB-T for the future...

John Clark.




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[Discuss-gnuradio] More info on snd_pcm_hw_params_set_period_time_near problem.

2007-11-26 Thread Marcus Leech
There seems to be some weirdness in Alsa on my machine which provokes:

snd_pcm_hw_params_set_period_time_near failed

Whenever the device sampling rate is anything other than:

8000, 16000, 32000, 48000

Even with the "plughw" device, which is supposed to just care care of
sampling-rate problems.

Other Alsa applications, such as "aplay" seem to have no problems, but
any of the Gnu Radio applications
  that use audio output seem to run into this error.





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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Soft-DVB working flawlessly

2007-11-26 Thread David I. Emery
On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 11:18:53AM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote:
> Quoting John Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> >John Gilmore schrieb:
> >>I can already think of one use that others can make of your
> >>transmitter.  EFF and I are interested in measuring the DRM responses
> 
> I am interested in a dvb-s receiver, but if I understand correctly  
> most open/free satellite transponders are wider than our current 8MHz  
> bandwidth.

Yes, and no.   Most signals you might be interested in are, but
not all ... there are lots and lots of SD DSNG signals from satellite
news trucks with symbol rates around 3978.7 Ksym/sec (a standard for a
5.5 Mbs transport stream with 3/4 FEC) and a few other rates near that
in use.   These signals should be narrow enough to work with the USRP.

I am hoping the USRP II will have the resources to do full
transponder DVB-S and DVB-S2 stuff in some mode or another - there is
definately a need for this for signal analysis/transponder IDing...



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"An empty zombie mind with a forlorn barely readable weatherbeaten
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celebration of what could have been, but wasn't and is not to be now either."



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[Discuss-gnuradio] GNU Radio & wireless SmartMeters

2007-11-26 Thread Dave

On Tue 20 Nov 2007, at 11:07 PM, John Gilmore wrote:

Soft-DVB working flawlessly ...
thanks again for precious help,


Thank *you* for building a great tool on top of all the signal
processing work that's been poured into GNU Radio over the years.
We hoped someone like you would do things like this!


I second that!

Sidenote: I'd also like to thank Firas for his first approach at  
documentation. With due respect to everyone doing all this great work  
with GNU Radio, this signals the beginning for the rest of us (non- 
radio engineers) to begin to understand and fully appreciate its  
significance. Who knew, after that first meeting in Fry's  
Electronic's cafe, that the project would take off in this great way. :)



... I can already think of one use that others can make of your
transmitter.  EFF and I are interested in measuring the DRM responses
of various digital television consumer products. ...


That's an excellent idea, John.

I can think of another as well... maybe you'll consider this, even if  
it's still some time away from being widely implemented...


As some of you (e.g. those in the San Francisco Bay Area) may already  
be aware, the electrical power company here (PG&E, or Pacific Gas &  
Electric) is now beginning to beta-test a "SmartMeterâ„¢" on 8,500 San  
Francisco homes and businesses [1].


After years of development (involving close work with the EPRI, or  
Electric Power Research Institute, a power industry consortium of  
large utility corporations), PG&E has selected a new type of electric  
power meter from SmartSynch, Inc. [2] that can wirelessly transmit  
massive amounts of data about your building's electrical usage to a  
radio receiver nearby in your neighborhood. From those base stations,  
the data is sent over an "advanced communications network" (meaning  
fractional T1?). Although PG&E has "no plan to utilize the device's  
real-time capabilities", the feature is nevertheless fully present in  
the beta devices... it is "just not turned on", according to a semi- 
trained SmartMeter representative I spoke with, the feature is  
nevertheless fully present in the beta devices... it is "just not  
turned on". Of course, we all know how terribly trustworthy and super- 
civic-minded these power companies are, right?


Some of you may already be familiar with the privacy and security  
issues regarding wired home power circuits. Using current wired power  
lines, an entity with sufficient access to a building's wiring could  
determine (with considerable accuracy) what people are doing inside  
by tracking the voltage spikes of devices (e.g. appliances) plugged  
into the wall. These days, this means virtually everything in the  
house, including Japanese electronic toilets, kitchen refrigerators,  
corded "massagers", bedside lamps and clock-alarms, etc. You get the  
idea. Security researchers as far back as the 80's described and  
later demonstrated TEMPEST-like surveillance capabilities, using  
devices built from common off-the-shelf parts, that could extract a  
viewable monochrome image of a computer display device (any type, not  
just CRTs) anywhere on a building's power circuit, after picking it  
out of all of the other devices by progressively "tuning in" to  
characteristic voltage patterns [3]. When "home ethernet over  
electric power wire" kits recently became popular for retrofitting  
networks in older buildings, new attacks on your home network  
connection became possible [4].


Soon, enormous quantities of power metering data will be broadcast  
wirelessly.


Because it is so "convenient" for Customers (they couldn't really  
explain to me how, yet they used that word), PG&E expects to install  
these SmartMeters on nearly every urban structure in California  
within 5 years. Where California goes, so goes the rest of the US.  
Within 10-20 years, as the manufacturing and installation costs fall  
(economies of scale) and the technology is transferred to other  
countries, it is reasonable to imagine that SmartMeters will become  
extremely common worldwide. Imagine all of that fine-grained power- 
use data, broadcast into the air 24/7/365. Now, though the technical  
security specifications are unavailable (or "coming soon" [5])  
considering the complexity of the PKI (public key infrastructure)  
that would be involved for the encryption, you can probably imagine  
how unenthusiastic the power companies are about implementing a  
robust security infrastructure for these transmissions... what a  
headache for their IT departments, right? On the other hand, the  
world's intelligence agencies must be absolutely drooling with  
anticipation... it's a magical backdoor into Everything that is so  
"transparent" that hundreds of millions of power consumers will never  
give it a second thought.


Perhaps a GNU Radio tool for interacting with the wireless signals  
from SmartMeters (and similar devices) might make it possible to  
better protect people fr

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] GNU Radio & wireless SmartMeters

2007-11-26 Thread John Clark

Dave schrieb:



I can think of another as well... maybe you'll consider this, even if 
it's still some time away from being widely implemented...


As some of you (e.g. those in the San Francisco Bay Area) may already 
be aware, the electrical power company here (PG&E, or Pacific Gas & 
Electric) is now beginning to beta-test a "SmartMeterâ„¢" on 8,500 San 
Francisco homes and businesses [1]. 


I think the basic reason why people are so accepting of these sorts of 
things, are 1) They don't care as long as their cable feed is up...
2) think along the lines of 'Well, I'm not doing anything bad, so really 
why should I worry'... until one of them ends up with a bill from
the recording industry for copyright infringements because they were 
playing their neighbor's iPod in their house...


On how to deal with such snoopage, perhaps GNURadio could be used 
monitor and then to inject a small amount of 'noise' in to the line to 
'cover'

any residuals picked up by the line in the house.

John Clark.




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[Discuss-gnuradio] A simple question!

2007-11-26 Thread Brook Lin

Hi All,

I run gnuradio-3.1.1 on FC7. After installing gnuradio successfully, I
tested usrp_fft.py, I got GUI pop-up, and saw the spectrum at given center
frequency. However, I got some warning, see below. 
=
sudo ./usrp_fft.py 

** (python:13669): WARNING **: IPP request failed with status 1030

** (python:13669): WARNING **: IPP request failed with status 1030
gr_vmcircbuf_createfilemapping: createfilemapping is not available
==
Why create file mapping is not available? Does it matter? Will it cause
other errors later?

Thanks,
Brook

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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] GNU Radio & wireless SmartMeters

2007-11-26 Thread Eric A. Cottrell
Dave wrote:
> After years of development (involving close work with the EPRI, or
> Electric Power Research Institute, a power industry consortium of
> large utility corporations), PG&E has selected a new type of electric
> power meter from SmartSynch, Inc. [2] that can wirelessly transmit
> massive amounts of data about your building's electrical usage to a
> radio receiver nearby in your neighborhood. From those base stations,
> the data is sent over an "advanced communications network" (meaning
> fractional T1?). Although PG&E has "no plan to utilize the device's
> real-time capabilities", the feature is nevertheless fully present in
> the beta devices... it is "just not turned on", according to a
> semi-trained SmartMeter representative I spoke with, the feature is
> nevertheless fully present in the beta devices... it is "just not
> turned on". Of course, we all know how terribly trustworthy and
> super-civic-minded these power companies are, right?
>
Hello,

A sizable utility like PG&E needs a good data network for their SCADA
system.  This is used for distributed metering and control at the
transmission line level and employs Microwave and/or Fiber.  The Fiber
is usually run along the transmission line right-of-way.  Utilites
usually own and maintain their communications networks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCADA

Power Line Carrier is used for low speed data.  It is basically Low
Frequency Radio Waves coupled directly to the transmission line.  Older
systems used on-off keying while newer systems use PSK.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_line_communication

A brief search shows PG&E uses fiber and offers their excess capacity
for sale as some other utilities are doing.  Some utilities are also
looking into becoming ISPs by deploying a Broadband over power lines
(BPL) system,.

>From what I heard about SmartMeters they extend SCADA functions down to
the distribution level.  I could see utiliies having the wireless
receivers at substations and using their fiber to get it back to the
central servers.  I mainly deal with the Protective Relaying part of the
industry so I am more familiar with electric utility communications that
support the System Fault Protection part.  The few large utilities I
have talked to do take network security seriously.

The security threat posed to you in your home depends on what is meant
by real-time.  Typically the meter in a house measures the power you use
in watt-hours.  The real-time function may just be a direct reading of
the voltage and current on a per cycle basis much like a regular AC
Voltmeter and AC Ampmeter.  I would be more concerned if the device has
DFR (Digital Fault Recorder) functions that can sample many points on
the AC waveform and send it back over SCADA.  The sampling rates
generally go up to 200 KSPS.
http://preview.ametek.com/content-manager/files/pip/2100736.pdf
I am not familiar with the sampling rates needed to reconstruct computer
monitor output.

A DFR is handy if a transmission line fault occurs and the fault
protection does not operate properly.  It is possible to playback the
fault recording from the DFR records and test the fault protection.

I work for a company that makes test equipment for the power industry. 
It is a private company in the process of being sold to the holding
company that owns DCSI.  DCSI is involved with SmartMeters.
http://tdworld.com/customer_service/power_smartmeter_program_deployment_2/

73 Eric


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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Radiation Pattern

2007-11-26 Thread Nagaraj C Shivaramaiah
Hi Robert,

Any update on this?

Best regards,
Nagaraj


On Nov 3, 2007 1:02 AM, Robert McGwier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> C S Nagaraj wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Could anybody provide me the radiation pattern for LP0296 PCB log
> > periodic antenna that is used  with DSBRX.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Raj
> >
>
> I asked the designer for the pattern (his amateur radio callsign is that
> cryptic signature on the antenna).
>
> Bob
>
>
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> TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR WG Chair
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> must the pessimist always run to blow it out?" Descartes
>
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