Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: overall communication guidelines and reply-to mangling

2011-12-05 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi Florian, *,

Am 02.12.2011 18:45 schrieb Florian Effenberger:
> Friedrich Strohmaier wrote on 2011-12-02 18:42:

>> The question is, where to go regarding communication style.
>> reply-to mangling hereby is*one*  thing to look at.

> just today, one of our admins replied again directly only to me. If I
> didn't spot this, and replied again to the list, the valueable
> information he posted would have been lost forever...

Well, if You speak of lost contributions, You may consider also those
thought, but finally not contributed. Whoever hit that trap:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.documentfoundation.discuss/7271
might probably think scary where to post, and where not.

To make a long story short: I'd like to see that kind of issues handled
different from "my reasons are more reasonable therefore I've to win the
battle" - rather in a community way instead.

The way You did it shows us: You *did* spot it and it was not lost
forever! ;o))


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Re: [tdf-discuss] [resume] overall communication guidelines and reply-to mangling

2011-12-05 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi all,

Am 23.11.2011 23:45 schrieb Friedrich Strohmaier:

> After getting reports about serious issues hindering efficient mail
> communication through the recent practiced "reply-to mangling" on our
> mailing lists, we from tech team are going for a test setup, switching
> it off for one - most likely this one.
> We expect to grow our wisdom about the upcoming effects. :o))

This happened already without doing any real test. :o))

As there was no substantial support for this concern - at least no
*visible* one - and even Florian, the one promoting the issue, didn't
consider it a good thing (where I don't understand, why he's promoting
it) I propose *to stop it* for now.

[..]

> I notice a lack of overall comunication style agreement within our
> beloved project and if I remember correctly some more people do as well.

> I thought about to advance Italo's great compilation of posting style
> guidelines http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette towards a
> "7 golden rules making it a pleasure to read your mail" style guideline
> flanked by an "adopter's" page where people can out themselves as
> adopters and supporters of that guidelines.

I consider those points still valid, but put them back as for the moment
I don't have enough resources available to do it alone.

[..]

Gruß/regards
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Re: [tdf-discuss] [resume] overall communication guidelines and reply-to mangling

2011-12-05 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hi,

Friedrich Strohmaier wrote on 2011-12-05 23:48:

As there was no substantial support for this concern - at least no
*visible*  one - and even Florian, the one promoting the issue, didn't
consider it a good thing (where I don't understand, why he's promoting
it) I propose*to stop it*  for now.


well, Michael asked for it repeatedly, and I promised him that we will 
investigate the issue. So, I'll wait for his enumeration of lists where 
he thinks this change is necessary, and we can evaluate the impact there.


I think we've been discussing this long enough, so let's simply try it 
out. (tm)


Florian

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