This software is a rip-off; request a full refund

2012-04-11 Thread Fred Teeboom
Hello:

 

I ordered your latest version   diaw.exe 0.97, but find your text next to
impossible to use.  No editing WYSIWYG features



It also does not copy to MSWord.

 

Unless you have a better way to use text, I want a full refund.
Incidentally, this is free software; why did you charge me?

 

This software is a rip-off.

 

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Fred Teeboom

 

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A rip-off is a rip-off !!!!!!

2012-04-11 Thread Fred Teeboom
A rip-off is a rip-poff !

 

"This could be a good stuff for this month's 1sth..."

 

You need to clean up your English typing, before you widely publish it in a
USER's FORUM.

 

The gist of what I read is, that to obtain what I need I should read the
source code and develop my own version?

 

Huh   I have a Masters Degree in Electrical Engineering, with a minor in
Computer Science, but I would not even begin to waste a minute to unravel
the spaghetti code typical of Open Source Freeware.

 

What you should feature in your FORUM is: "If a vendor charges $14.00 for
Freeware, not his own, on EBay, should he declare under the Product
Description that this software is available free of charge, including the
User Manual, for a couple of minutes of download time? No need to wait a
week for a CDROM to arrive from England.  And that the free download is a
later version than the $14.00 version sent on a CDROM via USPS sneaker
mail?

 

Then there is the deception that Dia is a "simper" version of VISIO?  I
downloaded a 60-day free trial of 2010 VISIO and I can tell you without
reservation, Dia it is not even close!

 

A rip-off is a rip-off !!

 

Fred teeboom

Nashua, NH

 

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Harding [mailto:t...@thomas-harding.name] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 1:48 PM
To: discussions about usage and development of dia
Cc: fred...@comcast.net
Subject: Re: This software is a rip-off; request a full refund

 

Le Tue, 10 Apr 2012 14:26:02 -0400,

"Fred Teeboom" < <mailto:fred...@comcast.net> fred...@comcast.net> wrote:

 

This could be a good stuff for this month's 1sth...

 

> Hello:

> I ordered your latest version   diaw.exe 0.97, but find your text

> next to impossible to use.  No editing WYSIWYG features

 

* Unfortunately, nothing relies Free software authors to a reseller,

  except case you buy it to an author (e.g.: to implement a feature

  or develop from scratch)!

 

* It is also permitted to charge without reason, but most likely for

  hard-copying and shipping, and, if so, warranty which is explicitely

  disclaimed in any Free Software licence (so, the re-seller will offer

  separately the warranty as a service). Note you should take a look

  at commercial software licences on warranty, this is a fun.

 

* A software, incidentally, is a *tool* which is made for an *usage*

  and a *public*. Dia is a diagram software, and if you need to create

  diagrams this is definitely the tool you need. You can also purchase

  MS Visio if you want to marmosets that rotate[1], or ask to GrandMa

  what is a diagram.  

 

I suggest you turn you back to the reseller, who is the only person who can
offer you a commercial arrangement. Note if he didn't gives you a way to get
the sources you can either sue him. The resseler figures below on this your
mail I left, which is fully accessible to anyone can read.

 

Note also you'd better to search before on the ternet before purchasing what
you can obtain *legally* for nothing except a few gigs download.

 

The other solution is to modify software by yourself then, if you want to
redistribute modified, give the same licence and the software sources (or an
access to them) together.

 

> It also does not copy to MSWord.

 

I suggest you a hammer, the best tool to fix anything on a screen.

 

Most likely, you should read the f...in manual and wonder about what are
png, jpeg, svg, and espacially for the $#*%=+@ Microsoft stuff what called
wmf "Windows Meta File" and emf "Enhanced Meta File".

 

 

> 

> Unless you have a better way to use text, I want a full refund.

> Incidentally, this is free software; why did you charge me?

> 

>  

> 

> This software is a rip-off.

 

No comments.

 

>  

> 

> From: eBay [ <mailto:e...@ebay.com> mailto:e...@ebay.com]

> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 6:53 PM

> To:  <mailto:fred...@comcast.net> fred...@comcast.net

> Subject: Confirmation of your Order of Diagram Technical Drawing MS 

> Vision Type Software for Windows 7 PC...

> 

>  

> 

> 

> Thanks for your purchase, teeboom6996!

> 

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> Here's your order confirmation

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> Hi teeboom6996,

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> Here is a summary of your r

A rip-off is a rip-off is a rip-off is a rip-off is a rip-off is a rip-off is a rip-off is a rip-off

2012-04-12 Thread Fred Teeboom
Sancho Pancho de la Mancha:

 

“If I wasn't falling out of my chair right now….”

 

I suspect you got a concussion when you fell off your chair.  Better see a 
doctor.  Make sure the doctor is not a FREEWARE doctor.

 

Look on the bright side.  The concussion must have improved your English!

 

 

fst

 

From: Johann Tienhaara [mailto:jtienha...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 6:28 PM
To: discussions about usage and development of dia; Fred Teeboom
Subject: Re: A rip-off is a rip-off !!

 

Thank you for the laugh Fred, this has been by far the funniest series of mails 
to the Dia list I've ever seen.





If I wasn't falling out of my chair right now I would agree with you: Dia is a 
"rip-poff".

For the record it is also "simper" than Visio.  It may even be the "simpest" 
diagramming software there is.



 

Good luck tilting at windmills.







Yours etc.,







Sancho Panza, Esq., O.B.E., Masters Degree in Electrical Engineering from the 
Technical Institute of La Mancha



 

  _  

From: Fred Teeboom 
To: 'Thomas Harding' ; 'discussions about usage and 
development of dia'  
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 3:54:29 PM
Subject: A rip-off is a rip-off !!

 

A rip-off is a rip-off !

 

“This could be a good stuff for this month's 1sth...”

 

You need to clean up your English typing, before you widely publish it in a 
USER’s FORUM.

 

The gist of what I read is, that to obtain what I need I should read the source 
code and develop my own version?

 

Huh   I have a Masters Degree in Electrical Engineering, with a minor in 
Computer Science, but I would not even begin to waste a minute to unravel the 
spaghetti code typical of Open Source Freeware.

 

What you should feature in your FORUM is: “If a vendor charges $14.00 for 
Freeware, not his own, on e-Bay, should he declare under the Product 
Description that this software is available free of charge, including the User 
Manual, for a couple of minutes of download time? No need to wait a week for a 
CDROM to arrive from England.  And that the free download is a later version 
than the $14.00 version sent on a CDROM via USPS sneaker  mail?

 

Then there is the deception that Dia is a “simpler” version of VISIO?  I 
downloaded a 60-day free trial of 2010 VISIO and I can tell you without 
reservation, Dia it is not even close!

 

A rip-off is a rip-off !!

 

Fred teeboom

Nashua, NH

 

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