Suggestions

2012-12-17 Thread Raymond Kennington 

Context Menu
Enter Text Edit Mode

Selected Symbols Properties: Set size
e.g. selected ellipses to be circles of the same size

Required: a symbol page for Yourdon's Data Flow Diagrams (DFD).

Raymond




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Re: Suggestions

2012-12-17 Thread Michael Ross 
Hi Raymond,

This is an open source project.  Sheets of shapes are created by the people
who want them the most.  They aren't prepared ahead of time.  You are the
first person I have heard ask for these.

If you have an immediate need, you should undertake to learn how shapes are
made and how to get them into your palettes.  It is vaguely possible you
could contract with someone to make them for you - if you could provide
adequate direction on what is needed.

Good luck,

Mike

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Raymond Kennington <
raymon...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

>  Context Menu
> Enter Text Edit Mode
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> Selected Symbols Properties: Set size
> e.g. selected ellipses to be circles of the same size
>
> Required: a symbol page for Yourdon's Data Flow Diagrams (DFD).
>
> Raymond
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Re: Some for Dia

2012-12-17 Thread Hans Breuer 

At 16.12.2012 23:20, Бамсик wrote:

Hello,
Sorry for my English. I using Dia and think what program would be better if
you do instrument for rotating object.

Generic object rotation is one of the long time requested features, e.g.:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100886
and
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321820

> [...]

And program doesn't have measuring instrument, some times it's needed.
Maybe I misunderstand, but please check the sheet Misc with the object 
'Misc - Measure'. Mabye that's what you are looking for.



Thank,
Dia is very good program.


Thanks,
Hans

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Re: Suggestions

2012-12-17 Thread Hans Breuer 

At 17.12.2012 18:13, Raymond Kennington wrote:

Context Menu
Enter Text Edit Mode

Context menus are object specific in Dia. Text editing already is in the 
menu and in the toolbar and available via hotkey and can be activated by 
click and hold. IIRC all these options are described in the manual. Adding 
just a fifth way does not look feasible to me.



Selected Symbols Properties: Set size
e.g. selected ellipses to be circles of the same size

Sorry, I don't understand. But maybe it is similar to what was attemted 
with https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=328200 ?



Required: a symbol page for Yourdon's Data Flow Diagrams (DFD).


See Michael's mail but maybe also check
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_flow_diagram

Dia already supports SADT/IDEFO and Gane&Sarson diagrams. Does it really 
need yet another notation for data flow diagrams?


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Re: Suggestions

2012-12-17 Thread Raymond Kennington 

Hello.

I've finished my current task using Dia, but would like to have proper DFD 
symbols. Yourdon's DFDs were taught at the University of South Australia for at 
least the 10 years that I was there, an I used them for 12 years in my business 
developing software for companies.


Yes, I can use rectangles for data stores, but visually this is not good enough; 
they are not distinguishable from other external entities.


i would really like circles and ellipses that I have to change the shape of 
every time.


At the end of my current project, I will look into contributing to Dia a page 
for the required symbols.


On 18/12/2012 08:21, Hans Breuer wrote:

At 17.12.2012 18:13, Raymond Kennington wrote:

Context Menu
Enter Text Edit Mode

Context menus are object specific in Dia. Text editing already is in the menu 
and in the toolbar and available via hotkey and can be activated by click and 
hold. IIRC all these options are described in the manual. Adding just a fifth 
way does not look feasible to me.

I can generally get by without having to read manuals.

It is very common to have commonly-used tasks on a context menu. The main menu 
and toolbars requires too much effort, especially on large LCD screens with 
large diagrams.


Adding suitable context-menu items makes the experience of using a program much 
better - and takes almost no time to implement and test.





Selected Symbols Properties: Set size
e.g. selected ellipses to be circles of the same size

Sorry, I don't understand. But maybe it is similar to what was attemted with 
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=328200 ?


1. Select 4 ellipses with SHIFT-Clicks.

2. Right-Click for the context menu.

3. Select Properties - nothing happens.

I expect to be able to alter the properties of the ellipses as the same time, 
and two of those properties should be the height and the width.


Other properties should include the font properties and the background colours.




Required: a symbol page for Yourdon's Data Flow Diagrams (DFD).


See Michael's mail but maybe also check
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_flow_diagram

Thanks, but see my initial comment above.

In my work, Yourdon's DFDs are essential.



Dia already supports SADT/IDEFO and Gane&Sarson diagrams. Does it really need 
yet another notation for data flow diagrams?

Yes.

I have tried Gane & Sarson's symbology and the clients didn't understand them as 
well as Yourdon's.


In about 4 months, I will have almost one hundred pages of DFDs to convert from 
ABC Flowcharter to something else. I am hoping it will be Dia.


Regards,
Raymond
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Dr. Raymond Kennington

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Re: Suggestions

2012-12-17 Thread Raymond Kennington 

Correction:

I would really like circles instead of ellipses that I have to change the shape 
of every time.


Raymond
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