Re: Dia is open source

2012-10-12 Thread Thomas Harding 

Bonjour,

cette liste est consacrée au logiciel libre de créations de diagrammes 
"Dia", qui n'a strictement rien à voir avec la comptabilité financière 
ou analytique, à moins qu'il s'agisse de construire un diagramme des 
processus mis en œuvre, ou d'extraire à partir de ce graphe le squelette 
d'un programme, extraire un modèle de données, ... ou encore inversement 
de construire automatiquement un diagramme à partir de données quelconques.


Auquel cas, il ne s'agirait pas tant de vendre ce logiciel que de 
trouver un ou des développeurs, et financer son adaptation au besoin que 
vous exprimez s'il ne correspond pas à votre cahier des charges.


Vous avez du confondre avec un logiciel homonyme, à moins que les 
adaptations citées supra soient vendues par ailleurs, notamment 
accompagnées des sources et du moyen de le reconstruire parmi d'autres 
conditions contraignantes pour le vendeur, et à l'avantage de 
l'acheteur, qu'il serait assez long de vous expliquer ici (cf GNU 
General Public Licence, version 2 et suivantes).


Bien cordialement,
TSFH.

Le 12/10/2012 19:00, Michael Ross a écrit :

Dia is free, no cost.

How to get and use Dis:
Download it, install it, use it, contribute to its growth and progress.

https://live.gnome.org/Dia

You might get some benefit from telling your customer that it is not 
necessary to buy Dia.


They might prefer to come back to you for other products.

Whereas, if they discover, after paying for DIa, that is was free, 
they might never return to you for other business.



On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Toffolon, Fabien 
mailto:fabien.toffo...@comsoft.fr>> wrote:


Hello,

We are reseller in France of windows software.

Our web site is :

http://www.comsoft.fr 

One of my customers wants to buy:

-DIA “Comptabilité” (It is necessary to plan the possibility of
realization of footbridges of the software THALIA (Gestion
Commerciale) towards financial department )

-DIA PAYE


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Re: QUOTE

2012-10-12 Thread Thomas Harding 


Le plus surprenant est qu'en tapant "dia comptabilité" dans le champ de 
saisie du premier moteur de recherches Internet venu, ce dernier vous 
pointe le logiciel en question en première ligne.


Je laisse la publicité de votre boîte en intégral, dès fois qu'un client 
potentiel ait l'idée d'y regarder à deux fois.


Which is especially amazing is that typing "dia comptabilité" in any 
Internet search engine will point you what you search as first link.


[I let anyone translate the last sentence himself]

Le 12/10/2012 11:58, Toffolon, Fabien a écrit :


Hello,

We are reseller in France of windows software.

Our web site is :

http://www.comsoft.fr 

One of my customers wants to buy:

-DIA “Comptabilité” (It is necessary to plan the possibility of 
realization of footbridges of the software THALIA (Gestion 
Commerciale) towards financial department )


-DIA PAYE

Could you give me the price ?

What is our discount as reseller ?

What are the shipment cost to France ?

What is the way to order ?

Can we pay by credit card or bank transfer ?

Thanks for your answer and best regards.

*Fabien TOFFOLON*
*Assistant commercial*

Ligne directe +33 4 97 21 58 71
Standard +33 4 97 21 58 50
Fax +33 4 97 21 58 51
Email fabien.toffo...@comsoft.fr 

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Cedex | www.comsoft.fr 




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Re: Dia is open source

2012-10-12 Thread Octavio Alvarez 

What you *could* do is to sell an improvement-development contract
instead of selling Dia as such. Just remember:

0. Dia is a volunteer-driven project. It may or may not work under
your customer's computer (it should, a *lot* of people use it). It
may also be or not useful to your customer's specific needs.

1. In no way the Dia volunteers are obligated to you in any way, not
support, not refunds, not anything. Not even if the software fails.
You'd be actually on your own, but you can ask in this mailing list,
sometimes people know the answer to your questions.

2. You are obligated under the Dia license to always provide the
source code of Dia AND of any improvements to your customer and he
is free to redistribute either the source or your improvements again
to anyone at will. You may not impose restrictions on this. The best
is to make good-quality changes and submit them back for consideration
of inclusion in the next version of Dia.

3. I am not a lawyer, so don't take the above as legal advice. I hope
not to be missing anything.

Make sure you read the Dia license (named General Public License 2)
at the following page:

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html

You will be surprised of the terms of the license.

Good luck.


On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 10:00:53 -0700, Michael Ross
 wrote:


Dia is free, no cost.

How to get and use Dis:
Download it, install it, use it, contribute to its growth and progress.

https://live.gnome.org/Dia

You might get some benefit from telling your customer that it is not
necessary to buy Dia.

They might prefer to come back to you for other products.

Whereas, if they discover, after paying for DIa, that is was free, they
might never return to you for other business.


On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Toffolon, Fabien <
fabien.toffo...@comsoft.fr> wrote:


 ** **

Hello,

 

We are reseller in France of windows software.

 

Our web site is : 

http://www.comsoft.fr 

 

One of my customers wants to buy:

**-   **DIA “Comptabilité” (It is necessary to plan the possibility
of realization of footbridges of the software THALIA (Gestion  
Commerciale)

towards financial department )

**-   **DIA PAYE


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happiness, or should I help others gain happiness?
*Dalai Lama *

To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk.
Thomas A.  
Edison


A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought.
*Warren Buffet*

Michael E. Ross
(919) 550-2430 Land
(919) 576-0824  Google  
Phone

(919) 631-1451 Cell
(919) 513-0418 Desk

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