Re: dia 0.97 - finally released
Steffen Macke wrote: Hi, Dia for Windows version 0.97 is available for Download from: http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=16768&filename=dia-setup-0.97.exe I would appreciate some feedback before I update Steffen Some feedback ... I have 0.96.1-9 and have recently finished a diagram started with 0.96.1-8 on Windows XP SP3. On installing .97 I left the checkbox selected to start Dia and it started up OK but the canvas was docked into the tool palette. I opened the diagram mentioned above and saw all the text was magenta (or pink). I didn't panic even though I couldn't change the colour. On closing down and restarting, it opened in two windows like 0.96 and the abovementioned diagram was fine. Some more feedback ... I reckon Dia is fabulous. Thank you to all contributors Mike http://dia-installer.de tomorrow or day after tomorrow. Note that localized filenames for compressed diagrams still cause problems: In case you are affected, I suggest that you add a comment to the libxml2 bug: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=574393 Note that there are three possible workarounds: * Uncompress the file e.g. with 7-Zip * Rename/move the file to c:\dia\dia.dia * Use the "8.3" naming convention - If you know what "8.3" path/filenames are I've changed the compression preference to be off by default (until this problem is fixed). In case you've got a Dia version installed already, you may want to do the same. Besides the preference change and some post-0.97 installer-related updates (you also find them in git), the 0.97 sources have been used. The actually used sources are available here: http://sourceforge.net/project/downloading.php?group_id=16768&filename=dia-0.97-2009-05-12.zip I've also updated my "extra" sources for the installer build process: http://dia-installer.de/howto/compile_msvc/ar01s04.html#additional_sources Regards Steffen ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: export .dia independant from custom shapes ?
Hans Breuer wrote: > At 21.08.2006 21:36, Pascal Ronecker wrote: >> I wonder : is it possible to export a .dia file that uses some specific >> shapes into a .dia file that would not refer to thoses shapes, but >> replace them by the "standards" polygon and beziers line that compose >> the shape ? > > If you are still interested in this feature (or anyone else): it got > implemented for dia-0.97 as: Hi all, would not a better approach be to include the shapes used as a part of the .dia document? This way you would not lose the structural information. Of course the 'substitute' approach might be needed for programmed objects (like UML, for example), but IMO the result should still be that the .dia document refers shapes, which are defined elsewhere in the document. User can then decide whether they want to use embedded shapes always or only when a local shape is not available. Embedded shapes should be used only with the document they are embedded in, to avoid proliferation of 'neutered' shapes and possibly some IP issues, although that might be hard to ensure. Cheers, Edheldil ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: export .dia independant from custom shapes ?
On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 10:38 +0200, Edheldil wrote: > Hans Breuer wrote: > > At 21.08.2006 21:36, Pascal Ronecker wrote: > >> I wonder : is it possible to export a .dia file that uses some specific > >> shapes into a .dia file that would not refer to thoses shapes, but > >> replace them by the "standards" polygon and beziers line that compose > >> the shape ? > > > > If you are still interested in this feature (or anyone else): it got > > implemented for dia-0.97 as: > > Hi all, > > would not a better approach be to include the shapes used as a part of > the .dia document? This way you would not lose the structural information. > > Of course the 'substitute' approach might be needed for programmed > objects (like UML, for example), but IMO the result should still be that > the .dia document refers shapes, which are defined elsewhere in the > document. > > User can then decide whether they want to use embedded shapes always or > only when a local shape is not available. > > Embedded shapes should be used only with the document they are embedded > in, to avoid proliferation of 'neutered' shapes and possibly some IP > issues, although that might be hard to ensure. I have pondered dumping an SVG representation of each shape into the .dia file, mainly for allowing rendering without having to reimplement e.g. the UML classes. It does open some IP issues, such as whether the SVG rendering of a GPLed shape can be used in a non-GPL program. This wouldn't allow for editing, though. -Lars ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: export .dia independant from custom shapes ?
Quoting "Lars Ræder Clausen" : I have pondered dumping an SVG representation of each shape into the .dia file, mainly for allowing rendering without having to reimplement e.g. the UML classes. This sounds like a very good idea! Esp. if people use some custom shapes or sth. from the shapes repository they never can be sure whether co-workers have the same stuff installed. It would also make free the way to remove objects or shapes from dia in the long run (e.g. if they are in a bad state and unmaintained), without leaving users with unrepresentable files. It does open some IP issues, such as whether the SVG rendering of a GPLed shape can be used in a non-GPL program. Maybe the authors of current shapes and objects would have to agree, that the SVG representation be used for diagrammes under public domain. I would probably agree for "my" objects and shapes (some UML, some network, all renewable energy). ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: Re: costum line/arrows like costum shape (costum_object)
Please, forgive my spelling mistake! :p -- Forwarded message -- From: Hans Breuer To: discussions about usage and development of dia Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 22:31:21 +0200 Subject: Re: costum line/arrows like costum shape (costum_object) At 12.05.2009 13:27, Andrea Poli wrote: > Hi, I'm interested in creating custom line with costum properties like > costum shape (costum_object). Is this possible with DIA without writing a > C/C++/Python plugin? > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/dia-list/2008-January/msg00033.html and http://git.gnome.org/cgit/dia/tree/objects/custom_lines I may use UML arrows and lines but I'd like to add them > costum properties as you can do with shapes. How should I do it? Thanks! > > Maybe we should rename it to costume line plug-in ;-) But if you search at http://mail.gnome.org/archives/dia-list/ for "custom lines" you should find most of the current feature set. If you analyze the currently capabilities it would be nice to write them down and contribute something to the documentation. Hans Hans "at" Breuer "dot" Org --- Tell me what you need, and I'll tell you how to get along without it.-- Dilbert -- Andrea Poli ___ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
