Re: Now look what you made me do
On 10/2/07, Lars Clausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > However, I think the change should be of the entire editing of one > object rather than everything edited in edit mode, since you can tab > between objects without leaving edit mode. Tabbing to other objects while in edit mode ... is that a good idea? 1) How do you insert a tab? 2) This reflects the action-object paradigm of interaction, like the "cut tool" in xfig. You first select the cut tool and then go about deleting an object. The object-action paradigm would be to select an object, then select the action. Selecting a different object automatically exits the action. Gnome is an action-object environment (disclaimer: not an expert) and, retaining edit mode while tabbing to a different object doesn't "fit in". 3) If tabbing to a different object in edit mode retains edit mode, then what does clicking on a different object do? Disclaimer: this is the first time I was exposed to the idea of tabbing to a different object, whether modal or not. Dunno about the thoughts and arguments that went into implementing this. Apologies for not doing my homework yet again. 4) In edit mode, if you edit object1, then move to object2, edit it and move back to object1, then which action is picked for undo ... the last action on the current object (object1), or the last action in the mode (object2)? 5) My pet analogies ... nautilus, explorer, spreadsheets ... they don't work that way. > It should be possible to hack the stack when ending edit for an object to > collapse > all edit into a simple text change. Allowing tabbing to different objects while in edit mode implies a separate undo stack for each object, managed by the mode. When exiting the mode, every stack will be collapsed into a per-object change, pushed in the latest-interacted-first order for objects. Sameer. -- Research Scholar, Department of CSE, IIT Bombay http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/~sameerds/ ___ Dia-list mailing list Dia-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: Now look what you made me do
On 10/2/07, Sameer Sahasrabuddhe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Allowing tabbing to different objects while in edit mode implies a > separate undo stack for each object, managed by the mode. When exiting > the mode, every stack will be collapsed into a per-object change, > pushed in the latest-interacted-first order for objects. Oops. That would be latest-interacted-last when pushing, which results in the latest changed object being restored first when undoing. Sameer. -- Research Scholar, Department of CSE, IIT Bombay http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/~sameerds/ ___ Dia-list mailing list Dia-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
dia svg export: how do adjust size?
Dear all After made a graph in dia 0.96.1, I export it to svg by "File -> Export -> change extension name to .svg and click save". Result file cannot be opened in firefox 2.0.0.6. Error: This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below. Then I export by repeating above operation while select "SVG Plain" as export format, this time it works and created an SVG file open-able in Firefox, but the graph is too big, and text is relatively bigger than shapes, making many text in rectangles ends outside the rectangle. I got 3 problem here: 1. Why simply export by changing extension name doesn't work (resulted svg that doesn't work in Fx)? If it's not open-able in Fx people assume it's broken, then dia should by default use "Plain SVG" or whatever option that produce more compatible svg. 2. Why text is relatively bigger? 3. How can I reduce the size of exported svg? I have tried to find option for dpi (no such option) and I try to find option for exported svg size (no such option) and then I try to make the graph smaller (not possible, because after grouped all objects, the group is not resizeable). Thanks! Note all of my 3 questions are probably bugs, let me know if I should file them as bug please. Seriously, I consider proper export of correct SVG is very important, DIA should have high quality control over this particular part. For sizing: user can reasonably expect exported svg image opens in firefox the same size as in dia when zoom is 100%. While this might not be easy as screen dpi may vary, at least it shouldn't be too far away from user expectation. On a higher level of usability requirement, a user might expect the diagram not exceeding the width of the screen prints within the A4 page width (especially on XGA) unless a shape of A4 page is clearly placed as background, and even expect the same for svg exported. This might not have to be satisfied but should be considered at least. For printing: just noticed user cannot select printer when printing in dia. I hope this can be improved too:) -- Real Softservice Huateng Tower, Unit 1788 Jia 302 3rd area of Jinsong, Chao Yang Tel: +86 (10) 8773 0650 ext 603 Mobile: 135 9950 2413 http://www.realss.com ___ Dia-list mailing list Dia-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
pdf export / scaling - got lost
Hi, I'm very new to Dia which looks very promising to me. Yet, I don't understand Scaling and exporting to PDF. Under Page Setup I have Scale:55.0 . When I export as an .eps file which is used within a TeX-file, I get a result which I expected. (Surprisingly the Scaling applies to exporting, as well). When I now use a (common) Perl script 'epstopdf' I can use resulting .pdf file within pdftex without problems. But when I export directly from Dia to a .pdf file, and using that under pdftex, the image is shift to the left (out of the page). What am I missing? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany ___ Dia-list mailing list Dia-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Open source screenplay tool
>I want to use Dia to write a screenplay. Everyone should use the tool of their fancy, but have you looked at: http://www.celtx.com/overview.html ___ Dia-list mailing list Dia-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: pdf export / scaling - got lost
Helmut Jarausch said: > Hi, > > I'm very new to Dia which looks very promising to me. > Yet, I don't understand Scaling and exporting to PDF. > > Under Page Setup I have Scale:55.0 . > When I export as an .eps file which is used > within a TeX-file, I get a result which I expected. > (Surprisingly the Scaling applies to exporting, as well). > When I now use a (common) Perl script 'epstopdf' > I can use resulting .pdf file within pdftex without problems. > > But when I export directly from Dia to a .pdf file, and > using that under pdftex, the image is shift to the left > (out of the page). > > What am I missing? What you need to do is share your PDF exporter, as Dia doesn't come with one. If you're making PDFs by printing to a PDF printer driver, you get extra margins (which I would have expected to shift the image to the right, but you never know). -Lars ___ Dia-list mailing list Dia-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: pdf export / scaling - got lost
On 3 Oct, Lars Clausen wrote: > Helmut Jarausch said: >> Hi, >> >> I'm very new to Dia which looks very promising to me. >> Yet, I don't understand Scaling and exporting to PDF. >> >> Under Page Setup I have Scale:55.0 . >> When I export as an .eps file which is used >> within a TeX-file, I get a result which I expected. >> (Surprisingly the Scaling applies to exporting, as well). >> When I now use a (common) Perl script 'epstopdf' >> I can use resulting .pdf file within pdftex without problems. >> >> But when I export directly from Dia to a .pdf file, and >> using that under pdftex, the image is shift to the left >> (out of the page). >> >> What am I missing? > > What you need to do is share your PDF exporter, as Dia doesn't come with > one. Really? Here, with Dia 0.96 (even SVN) I can say EXPORT, I select the extension .pdf and leave the pull down menu "Determine file type:" at the preset value "By extension". And it does export to a .pdf file. Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany ___ Dia-list mailing list Dia-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Scene graph shapes by Alejandro Aguilar Sierra available in the Dia Shape Repository
Hello All, Alejandro Aguilar Sierra has contributed some scene graph shapes, which have been added to the Dia shape repository: http://dia-installer.de/shapes/scenegraph/ Thanks to Alejandro for sharing these shapes! Regards, Steffen ___ Dia-list mailing list Dia-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: pdf export / scaling - got lost
On 02.10.2007 16:54, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > On 3 Oct, Lars Clausen wrote: >> Helmut Jarausch said: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm very new to Dia which looks very promising to me. >>> Yet, I don't understand Scaling and exporting to PDF. >>> >>> Under Page Setup I have Scale:55.0 . >>> When I export as an .eps file which is used >>> within a TeX-file, I get a result which I expected. >>> (Surprisingly the Scaling applies to exporting, as well). >>> When I now use a (common) Perl script 'epstopdf' >>> I can use resulting .pdf file within pdftex without problems. >>> >>> But when I export directly from Dia to a .pdf file, and >>> using that under pdftex, the image is shift to the left >>> (out of the page). >>> >>> What am I missing? http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=353433 >> What you need to do is share your PDF exporter, as Dia doesn't come with >> one. > > Really? > Here, with Dia 0.96 (even SVN) I can say EXPORT, I select the Lars: you should finally start building dia --with-cairo ... > extension .pdf and leave the pull down menu "Determine file type:" > at the preset value "By extension". > And it does export to a .pdf file. > ... and of course the cairo version needs to be new enough to have PDF. Hans Hans "at" Breuer "dot" Org --- Tell me what you need, and I'll tell you how to get along without it.-- Dilbert ___ Dia-list mailing list Dia-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: pdf export / scaling - got lost
On Wed, Oct 03, 2007 at 12:52:20AM +0200, Hans Breuer wrote: > ... and of course the cairo version needs to be new enough to have PDF. Which is? Is 1.4.10 sufficient? TIA! ___ Dia-list mailing list Dia-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
Re: dia svg export: how do adjust size?
On 10/2/07, Zhang Weiwu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > After made a graph in dia 0.96.1, I export it to svg by "File -> Export > -> change extension name to .svg and click save". When you changed the extension name to ".svg", did you also select the option that says "Determine file type By Extension"? > Result file cannot be opened in firefox 2.0.0.6. Error: > This XML file does not appear to have any style information > associated with it. The document tree is shown below. If you are running Linux, you can check the actual type of the file using the "file" command. > Thanks! Note all of my 3 questions are probably bugs, let me know if I > should file them as bug please. Snipped the rest of the issues mentioned since I am not knowledgeable in that. Maybe some of these issues are already filed in related bugs. A search on existing bugs might throw some light. Sameer. -- Research Scholar, Department of CSE, IIT Bombay http://www.it.iitb.ac.in/~sameerds/ ___ Dia-list mailing list Dia-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
