Re: problem

2006-03-08 Thread Lars Clausen
zied.abboud sagde:
> when i choose the text icon and i try to change the police i
> get a run time error and the program quit
> thanks for all the jobs you are doing to help people and make
> informatique easyer for all peaple

Not sure what "change the police" means -- changing the defaults? 
Changing the properties?  Changing the font?

-Lars
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svg shape import

2006-03-08 Thread Denis Cardon
Hi people,

I was wondering how to import svg shapes into dia? On the web site I
read that only a subset of svg is supported. Does it means that import
fails if the svg shape is too complex? I've tried to import shapes from
the Open Cliparts library (http://www.openclipart.org/) which offers
many great shapes to make shiny diagrams, but all my trials failed.

Thanks for the great work ! 

Cheers,

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Re: can i use dia with windows

2006-03-08 Thread Steffen Macke
Shannon,

> I am currently operating a tablet PC and would like to add DIA to the
> programs i use however i have no clue how to download it off of you web page
> or if it will even work with windows XP any help would be great.

You can download Dia for Windows from

http://dia-installer.sourceforge.net

You first have to download and install the GTK+ Runtime environment
and then the Dia for Windows installer.

Don't get confused in the download process. You first have to select a
mirror server
from which you want to download the files. In the second step, the
files will actually be downloaded.

Regards,

Steffen
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Message Header

2006-03-08 Thread Paul Sutton

Hi

I am a casual reader of this list, just a thought regarding mailing list 
headers, it's seems to be common practice (well fairly) common to 
include the list name within the message subject, e.g my local linux 
user group has [LUG] In the subject line automatically inserted by the 
server,  it makes it easier to spot messages from that particular list 
and makes it easier to set up mail clients to spot the messages and move 
them into a dedicated folder,  Is it possible to do the same for the dia 
list, 

It is possible to set mail filters by e-mail address. however I have had 
problems with this when dealing with forwarded messages, and sometimes 
replies, 


What are peoples thoughts on this.

Thanks

Paul Sutton

PS good luckj with future releases of dia,




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Re: Message Header

2006-03-08 Thread wen
On Wed, 08 Mar 2006 08:48:20 +
Paul Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I am a casual reader of this list, just a thought regarding mailing list 
> headers, it's seems to be common practice (well fairly) common to 
> include the list name within the message subject, e.g my local linux 
> user group has [LUG] In the subject line automatically inserted by the 
> server,  it makes it easier to spot messages from that particular list 
> and makes it easier to set up mail clients to spot the messages and move 
> them into a dedicated folder,  Is it possible to do the same for the dia 
> list, 
> 
> It is possible to set mail filters by e-mail address. however I have had 
> problems with this when dealing with forwarded messages, and sometimes 
> replies, 
I told my mailer to filter all mails which go to addresses containing 
"dia-list" (not caring about the subject) to the dia-folder. That works for all 
the mails.


> 
> What are peoples thoughts on this.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Paul Sutton
> 
> PS good luckj with future releases of dia,
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Message Header

2006-03-08 Thread Mike A
Paul, like you I too am a "lurker". I wholly agree with your comments.

Separating mails into folders works but for people like me who are members
of several technical forums it's a pain to go hunting. I like to see my
mails on the day they arrive and in one place, recognise the value of each
immediately, delete those I don't want (most!) and store the rest for
reference and write ups. I've probably deleted quite a few dia mails as spam
simply because without the list tag they appear to lack relevancy when
looking at 500 or so tagged mails received each day.

Adding a [dia] list tag would follow what seems to have become a list
standard.

Mike A.

Paul Sutton wrote:
> Hi
>
> I am a casual reader of this list, just a thought regarding mailing
> list headers, it's seems to be common practice (well fairly) common to
> include the list name within the message subject, e.g my local linux
> user group has [LUG] In the subject line automatically inserted by the
> server,  it makes it easier to spot messages from that particular list
> and makes it easier to set up mail clients to spot the messages and
> move them into a dedicated folder,  Is it possible to do the same for
> the dia list,
>
> It is possible to set mail filters by e-mail address. however I have
> had problems with this when dealing with forwarded messages, and
> sometimes replies,
>
> What are peoples thoughts on this.

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Feature diagram with DIA

2006-03-08 Thread Gomes Ludermir, P. (Pablo)
Dear all,

I have searched the mailing list archive but I could not find any kind
of answer to my following question.
I would like to draw some feature diagrams for domain modelling as in
the following document (see Figure 1):
http://homepages.cwi.nl/~arie/papers/fdl/fdl.pdf

How can I develop my own diagram? Or does anyone know if such kind of
diagram has been already developed for DIA?

Best Regards,
Pablo

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Re: inscribe links

2006-03-08 Thread Alan Horkan

On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Marcel Tscherkasow wrote:

> Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 12:03:45 +0100
> From: Marcel Tscherkasow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: dia-list@gnome.org
> Subject: inscribe links
>
> Hi,
>
> a nice feature would be the possibility to inscribe links.

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116554

If you are a developer we encourage you to try and add the feature and
provide patches.

Sincerely

Alan Horkan.
http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/
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Re: Message Header

2006-03-08 Thread Alan Horkan

On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, wen wrote:

> "dia-list" (not caring about the subject) to the dia-folder. That works
> for all the mails.

Most mail programs provide a way to sort based on sender.
At the moment I receive Dia emails once a day grouped together as a
digest, but i used to read them as they came.

I'd prefer if we didn't add a prefix to the subject line of every mail.

You might also be interested to know GMANE provides a "News" interface to
the dia-list
http://gmane.org/lists.php
nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.apps.dia


- Alan

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Goals for 0.96

2006-03-08 Thread Lars Clausen
So while the last bugs (hopefully) are being beaten out of 0.95, it's a
good time to look at what may happen in 0.96.  The TWiki page
http://faemalia.org/wiki/view/Technical/Dia10 has my goals for version
1.0, and I figure if I pick two of those, set myself a milestone of one
per month, then go to 0.96 release test, there's a better chance that
this will actually get done (imagine, a new release within a few
months!).

The two I'm considering right now are:

1) A different handling of groups -- see
http://faemalia.org/wiki/view/Technical/GroupDisconnect.  This is pretty
straightforward and has several obvious advantages (as discussed on the
page -- please do comment on it!)

2) Rotation of text elements.  While I'd love to have generic rotation
for everybody, see
http://faemalia.org/wiki/view/Technical/RotationAndScaling for why it's
not trivial.  In the interim, I figure text is the thing that would be
the most usable to have rotatable, and it's easy to do without breaking
all manner of things.  At the same time, it forces us to think about the
lower-level aspects of rotation without having to deal with all manner
of different objects.

These are just my current preferences.  I can be swayed to other
opinions by eloquent arguments, concise design proposals, or large
amounts of money:)

I'm of course not going to ignore people who sit down and implement some
of the other ideas, though I recommend bouncing designs off of the list
first.  This does gives an explicit focus for those who may want to
contribute to a faster next release:  Help me on the two points that are
the focus of the next release, and it will come all the faster.

-Lars

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Dia ChangeLog report for 2006-03-09 04:00:00 UTC (Thu 09 Mar)

2006-03-08 Thread Dia ChangeLog Daemon
Snapshots available at http://www.raeder.dk/~larsrc/Dia/snapshots

*** Recent ChangeLog entries:

--- ChangeLog.previous  2006-03-08 05:00:47.0 +0100
+++ dia-cvs-snapshot/ChangeLog  2006-03-09 05:00:14.662606720 +0100
@@ -1,9 +1,36 @@
+2006-03-08  Steffen Macke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
+
+   * installer/Makefile.am:
+   * installer/win32/Makefile.am:
+   * installer/win32/locale/Makefile.am: Making sure that the installer
+   sources are included in the dia source distribution
+   * installer/win32/dia.nsi: Don't include makefiles in installer;
+   Add uninstaller link to start menu (bug #332650); added commandline
+   option GTKBIN to specify GTK installation directory (fixes bug #332595)
+   * installer/win32/dia-diagram.ico:
+   * installer/win32/dia-header.bmp:
+   * installer/win32/dia-install.ico:
+   * installer/win32/dia-intro.bmp:
+   * installer/win32/dia-uninstall.ico:
+   * installer/win32/dia.nsi:
+   * installer/win32/langmacros.nsh:
+   * installer/win32/locale/english.nsh:
+   * installer/win32/locale/german.nsh: Added files to build the win32
+   installer using NSIS (http://nsis.sourceforge.net)
+
 2006-03-06  Lars Clausen  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

+   * doc/en/dia.xml:
+   * doc/pl/dia.xml:
+   * config.h.win32:
+   * configure.in:
+   * NEWS: -pre4
+
* samples/TexChars.dia: Added sample of the escaped chars for TeX.

* plug-ins/pstricks/render_pstricks.c (tex_escape_string):
-   Changing escape of \, [, and ] to something that works.  $ is fine.
+   Changing escape of \, [, and ] to something that works.  $ is
+   fine.  Fixes parts of 333193.

 2006-03-05  Lars Clausen  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

@@ -30,7 +57,7 @@
* doc/pl/dia.xml:
* config.h.win32:
* configure.in:
-   * NEWS:
+   * NEWS: -pre3

* lib/element.h (ELEMENT_COMMON_PROPERTIES): Turning off setting
of element_width and element_height until constraints can be
@@ -341,7 +368,8 @@

* lib/dialibartrenderer.c : make text rendering work without
PangoFT2 and PangoWin32
-
+
+
 2006-01-18  Lars Clausen  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* objects/UML/class.h: Enabling UML class mainpoint after failure
@@ -363,7 +391,8 @@
to keep the use-case of direct tex input.

* lib/debug.c : #include  not just 
-
+
+
 2006-01-14  Hans Breuer  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* samples/Self/umlclass.dia : (new file) documenting part of the
@@ -413,7 +442,11 @@
* lib/geometry.h : removed unused functions just producing warnings
[sometimes it's good to read compiler warnings]
* plug-ins/cairo/diacairo.c : somehow a function call got lost
-   (left-hand operand of comma expression has no effect)
* plug-ins/metapost/render_metapost.c : dia_message_filename()
wants a char* not a FILE* (passing arg 1 of `dia_message_filename'
from incompatible pointer type)
+   (left-hand operand of comma expression has no effect)
+   * plug-ins/metapost/render_metapost.c : dia_message_filename()
+   wants a char* not a FILE* (passing arg 1 of `dia_message_filename'
+   from incompatible pointer type)
+

 2006-01-07  Hans Breuer  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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RE: Goals for 0.96

2006-03-08 Thread Wells, Brent
Lars,

Those are pretty much what I was looking for also, but I would love to
see Microsoft Visio XML importation.  I have several documents that are
in MS Visio and this would help me greatly.

Brent



 

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Subject: Goals for 0.96

So while the last bugs (hopefully) are being beaten out of 0.95, it's a
good time to look at what may happen in 0.96.  The TWiki page
http://faemalia.org/wiki/view/Technical/Dia10 has my goals for version
1.0, and I figure if I pick two of those, set myself a milestone of one
per month, then go to 0.96 release test, there's a better chance that
this will actually get done (imagine, a new release within a few
months!).

The two I'm considering right now are:

1) A different handling of groups -- see
http://faemalia.org/wiki/view/Technical/GroupDisconnect.  This is pretty
straightforward and has several obvious advantages (as discussed on the
page -- please do comment on it!)

2) Rotation of text elements.  While I'd love to have generic rotation
for everybody, see
http://faemalia.org/wiki/view/Technical/RotationAndScaling for why it's
not trivial.  In the interim, I figure text is the thing that would be
the most usable to have rotatable, and it's easy to do without breaking
all manner of things.  At the same time, it forces us to think about the
lower-level aspects of rotation without having to deal with all manner
of different objects.

These are just my current preferences.  I can be swayed to other
opinions by eloquent arguments, concise design proposals, or large
amounts of money:)

I'm of course not going to ignore people who sit down and implement some
of the other ideas, though I recommend bouncing designs off of the list
first.  This does gives an explicit focus for those who may want to
contribute to a faster next release:  Help me on the two points that are
the focus of the next release, and it will come all the faster.

-Lars

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RE: Goals for 0.96

2006-03-08 Thread Lars Clausen
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 15:28 -0500, Wells, Brent wrote:
> Lars,
> 
> Those are pretty much what I was looking for also, but I would love to
> see Microsoft Visio XML importation.  I have several documents that are
> in MS Visio and this would help me greatly.

It's a good point.  I have in fact looked a bit at it, and it doesn't
look like an awful task, there's just a lot of work in it.  It is
similar to the XFig import in overall structure, but probably easier
because of the XML structures. The best route is to make a simple
importer at first and expands its capabilities over several releases.
Once a framework is up, it'd be a simple task to extend it with another
little bit, without requiring a lot of programming knowledge.

-Lars

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Re: Graphical question

2006-03-08 Thread Lars Clausen
On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 13:44 -0600, Jim Clark wrote:
> In the charts I am making that I mentioned previously (and 0.95 still
> has funky Windows font issues) I have decided to color code my boxes,
> based upon who performs the task listed. This will work well, with one
> exception. I have a series of boxes about things that are done in
> conjunction with the customer. The system admin (blue box) performs
> the task, the customer (red box) works with the sys admin. I wonder if
> there is some way to have (for instance) diagonal colored stripes
> going through the box,rather than a monochromatic background, showing
> that this box is a team effort.

No, Dia does not offer any kind of patterned fill yet, I'm afraid.  It
may not be an overly complex task to add it, but there'd be a lot of
footwork to it.

-Lars

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Re: DIA vs Eclipse

2006-03-08 Thread Lars Clausen
On Thu, 2006-03-02 at 22:28 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> i'm using Eclipse with GEF to draw diagram and manipulate data.
> 
> i'd like to know if a can do the same thing with DIA, i.e. having something 
> like
> a MVC design pattern.

I haven't tried GEF, so I'm not sure what it can do.  Dia is somewhat
MVC-designed, but I don't know if that's what you're after.

> i'd like to know :
> - how can i have properties for a component ?

I'm guessing that you're talking about properties for generic objects,
not just for the UML Component object.  The StdProps system defines a
number of standard properties, such as string, integer, color, dashes
etc.  Each object can define a number of these, and they are
automatically loaded, saved and settable in the properties dialog.

> - how can o explore my diagram ?

No idea what you mean here.

> - what can i do with a plugin for DIA ?

Theoretically anything, but in practice the access to the GUI itself is
very limited.  The current plugins are just imports, exports, and object
definitions.  You could do some inter-object operations like checking
validity of connections, but nobody's tried it yet, so we don't know the
practicalities of it.  There's no systematic access for plugins to, say,
the menus or the preferences.

-Lars

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Re: Prerelease 4

2006-03-08 Thread Steffen Macke
Hello All,

Prerelease 4 of Dia for Windows is available now:

http://dia-installer.sourceforge.net

Regards,

Steffen
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