Dia ChangeLog report for Tue Jan 14 08:23:01 2003 (UTC)
Snapshots available at http://www.crans.org/~chepelov/dia/snapshots *** Recent ChangeLog entries: --- ChangeLog.previous 2003-01-11 09:23:29.0 +0100 +++ dia-cvs-snapshot/ChangeLog 2003-01-14 09:23:07.0 +0100 @@ -1,3 +1,9 @@ +2003-01-13 Steffen Macke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> + + * lib/dia_image.c: dia_image_rgb_data() is working for + non-alpha images now. Fixes #93762 + * Makefile.am: added makefile.msc to EXTRA_DIST + 2003-01-10 Steffen Macke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * app/paginate_psprint.c: Closing print dialog when file ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
resizing objects fails
Hello I like the functionality of Visio, love Linux and thus try out Dia (first on my win2000 platform :-)). I run version v0.90 and find it very difficult to give my shapes of a flowchart the proper sizes. I read that the size is automatically adapted by the amount of text. The normal block with text inside has angular tiptops but does not allow to change. The decision diamond does allow to resize, but only to bigger and not smaller. Whenever I want to make a real diagram, I can´t fit all the symbols on one page. It is just all too big. Is there any solution for this? Regards, Jan Jan Kester Marlborough Stirling España, S.L. Director de Informática Gran Vía 62, 10º izq 28013 Madrid tel: +34-91-5487910 fax: +34-91-5400199 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
print preview
Hi there is there a way to see a print preview so that you know how your result will look like? I run Version v0.90 on win2000. Regards, Jan Jan Kester Marlborough Stirling España, S.L. Director de Informática Gran Vía 62, 10º izq 28013 Madrid tel: +34-91-5487910 fax: +34-91-5400199 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: resizing objects fails
"Jan Kester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello > > I like the functionality of Visio, love Linux and thus try out Dia (first on > my win2000 platform :-)). I run version v0.90 and find it very difficult to > give my shapes of a flowchart the proper sizes. I read that the size is > automatically adapted by the amount of text. > The normal block with text inside has angular tiptops but does not allow to > change. The decision diamond does allow to resize, but only to bigger and > not smaller. Whenever I want to make a real diagram, I can´t fit all the > symbols on one page. It is just all too big. > Is there any solution for this? If your problem simply is fitting the diagram into one page you could just set the scaling in the Page Setup-dialog (in the File-menu) to "Fit to: 1 by 1". -- - Mårten mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ICQ: 4356928 *** mobile: +46 (0)707390385 ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: Drawing instead of Untitled
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Philippe Faes wrote: > Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:47:10 +0100 > From: Philippe Faes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Drawing instead of Untitled > > On Monday 13 January 2003 21:53, Alan Horkan wrote: > > I think in the Save dialog we should prompt with the name Drawing %d > > rather than Untitled. > > How about "Drawing%d.dia" or "Diagram%d.dia"? That way you get the extention I dont like the sound of Diagram1.dia, the way the syllables repeat. > right at once. I've noticed that Gnumeric, another Gnome program that uses a > compressed xml-based file type, saves as "Book%d.gnumeric" by default. I dont use the compression on my dia files. Maybe i would if i could setup gedit to open and close .dia files without my needing to zip and unzip them every time i might use it but i edit the XML often enough and have enough hard disk space not to worry about compression of a single file. If the compression was holding together a whole bunch of sheets and images in an archive that would be different but even then you can tar without gzipping and you can zip without actually using any compression. (in fact in zip you can do cools stuff like have an uncompressed index at the head of the file but fully compress the rest of the archive). I dont want to argue about the merits of compressing a file format, but i like having the option not to do so. The vast scope and detial of the OpenOffice.org file format is something to be seen and manages to keep so many differnt options open. I dont know Gnumeric enough to make a fair comment on it but if i have time I expect i will be filing upwards of 10 usability bug reports on it. > (although the suffix is added automatically; the user doesn't need to type > it) The suffix is added automatically at the next stage and it would have been a more complicated patch to change it and make sure i did not break anything. At least now i know that no one has any fundamental objections to the name change. I am not particularly concerned if the diffent languages use a differnt more appropriate label (but i will definately need to make sure the English locales match). Later Alan ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: resizing objects fails
You can go into File->Page Setup and click Fit to 1 by 1 then the objects srink to fit the page. I haven't tried it but I am thinking you could get the right scaling by placing objects near the edges. Dan Warburton , FAA/ACB-860 Target Generation Facility (TGF) 609-485-4480 |-+> | | "Jan Kester" | | | | | | Sent by: | | | dia-list-admin@gn| | | ome.org | | || | || | | 01/14/2003 05:53 | | | AM | | | Please respond to| | | dia-list | | || |-+> >---| | | | To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | cc: | | Subject: resizing objects fails | >---| Hello I like the functionality of Visio, love Linux and thus try out Dia (first on my win2000 platform :-)). I run version v0.90 and find it very difficult to give my shapes of a flowchart the proper sizes. I read that the size is automatically adapted by the amount of text. The normal block with text inside has angular tiptops but does not allow to change. The decision diamond does allow to resize, but only to bigger and not smaller. Whenever I want to make a real diagram, I can´t fit all the symbols on one page. It is just all too big. Is there any solution for this? Regards, Jan Jan Kester Marlborough Stirling España, S.L. Director de Informática Gran Vía 62, 10º izq 28013 Madrid tel: +34-91-5487910 fax: +34-91-5400199 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: print preview
"Jan Kester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > is there a way to see a print preview so that you know how your result will > look like? There is nothing called a print preview, but according to my experiences the printed result is *very* close to what you see when you edit a diagram. The differences are that the connection points are visible and the scale. I suppose it could be convenient to be able to easily set the scale to be the same as on a hardcopy... -- - Mårten mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ICQ: 4356928 *** mobile: +46 (0)707390385 ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: print preview
Short answer No. Print Preview is not available Longer Answer, Possible workaround would be to print to a file and then use some sort of a postcript veiwer such as Alladin Ghostscript. Which reminds me, i wonder what the current state of Gnome Print is like... Later Alan Horkan http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/ On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Jan Kester wrote: > Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 11:54:23 +0100 > From: Jan Kester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: print preview > > Hi there > > is there a way to see a print preview so that you know how your result will > look like? > I run Version v0.90 on win2000. > > Regards, Jan > > Jan Kester > Marlborough Stirling España, S.L. Director de Informática > Gran Vía 62, 10º izq > 28013 Madrid > tel: +34-91-5487910 > fax: +34-91-5400199 > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > Dia-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list > FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html > Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia > > ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: print preview
> There is nothing called a print preview, but according to my > experiences the printed result is *very* close to what you see when > you edit a diagram. The differences are that the connection points are > visible and the scale. I suppose it could be convenient to be able to > easily set the scale to be the same as on a hardcopy... As Marten says, the diagram window is already the print preview (It shows the pagebreaks). To make the "preview" more realistic, you can switch off the grid and connection points. Steffen ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: print preview
On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Steffen Macke wrote: > Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 18:38:18 +0200 > From: Steffen Macke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: print preview > > > > There is nothing called a print preview, but according to my > > experiences the printed result is *very* close to what you see when > > you edit a diagram. The differences are that the connection points are > > visible and the scale. I suppose it could be convenient to be able to > > easily set the scale to be the same as on a hardcopy... > > As Marten says, the diagram window is already the print preview (It shows > the pagebreaks). To make the "preview" more realistic, you can > switch off the grid and connection points. Would it be worth while having a "Print Preview" menu item that basically just made sure the page breaks were shown and that the non printing symbols were hidden? Sincerley Alan Horkan ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: feedback on 'dia win32 compilation' instructions
> Did you merge the translations to your sheets > and objects? (e.g. uml.sheet.in ->UML.sheet) > $(TOP)/dia/makefile.msc should in the end take > care of it, but it is not there. hmmm, I'm not sure what you mean by "merging the translations', but I took a stab at adding a crude rule to .\dia\makefile.msc to install the *.sheet.in files to the runtime area. BTW, it needs sed, so I grabbed it from: http://umn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/gnuwin32/sed-4.0-bin.zip and installed it to $TOP before running the installation makefile. Attached is my amended .\dia\makefile.msc that appears to handle the the full dia runtime install environment. later, Mike __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com makefile.msc Description: makefile.msc
page size options
I am using dia .90 for win32 and was wondering if there is a way to set custom page sizes. I am wanting to set a drawing based on an "E" size page. Thanks, Sean Bickel ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Anyone interested in a Perl plugin?
Given a dash of Inline it should be fairly easy to do. thanx -- Steven Lembark 2930 W. Palmer Workhorse Computing Chicago, IL 60647 +1 773 252 1080 ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: UML sheet incomplete?
On 11 Jan 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> The UML sheet seems to be missing the class connection that has a small >> diamond at one end and nothing at the other. Am I missing something? > > You're missing something. Aggregation uses diamond at one end, nothing > at the other. The button on the sheet even kinda looks like it. > >> And I'm distressed to report that the arrow heads on Association just >> don't point the right way. > > This screenshot was made w/ Dia: > > http://tedia2sql.tigris.org/sampleImages/TestERD.png > > It's possible. There's a learning curve with getting > associations/aggregations to point right, have the association name in a > desired position, etc, but it's possible. I think I've heard it said > that the GNOME2 port of Dia (0.9x) will have better handling of this > type of thing, but perhaps not in the UML sheet itself, since it's an > orphaned beast of sorts. A better zigzag-line creation system has been done in CVS for the basic objects, but needs to be added to the UML objects. At some point, we will need to make autorouting, but figuring that out is a lot of work. -Lars -- Lars Clausen (http://shasta.cs.uiuc.edu/~lrclause)| Hårdgrim of Numenor "I do not agree with a word that you say, but I | will defend to the death your right to say it." | Where are we going, and --Evelyn Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire | what's with the handbasket? ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: Extension of UML/UML - Class possible?
On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, Erik Wasser wrote: > On Sunday 05 January 2003 10:28, Lars Clausen wrote: > >> It is already done! I'm not sure if it made it into the 0.90 >> release, but it's certainly there in CVS. I don't think it's >> displayed in the diagram, though, it's just stored with the UML >> properties. > > Nope, it's not in the version 0.90, I just checked it. When will be the > next release of the CVS version? As soon as the font issues are cleaned up. -Lars -- Lars Clausen (http://shasta.cs.uiuc.edu/~lrclause)| Hårdgrim of Numenor "I do not agree with a word that you say, but I | will defend to the death your right to say it." | Where are we going, and --Evelyn Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire | what's with the handbasket? ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: Drawing instead of Untitled
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Alan Horkan wrote: > > I think in the Save dialog we should prompt with the name Drawing %d > rather than Untitled. > > Way more verbose description here > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103415 > > I uncluded a patch, i could commit it myself but i figured maybe i should > run it past you guys first. I like Diagram-N.dia better than Drawing-N.dia, as that reinforces the idea that Dia is for diagrams, not drawings. Sodipodi is for drawings. Other than that, go ahead and apply. -Lars -- Lars Clausen (http://shasta.cs.uiuc.edu/~lrclause)| Hårdgrim of Numenor "I do not agree with a word that you say, but I | will defend to the death your right to say it." | Where are we going, and --Evelyn Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire | what's with the handbasket? ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: print preview
On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Alan Horkan wrote: > > Would it be worth while having a "Print Preview" menu item that basically > just made sure the page breaks were shown and that the non printing > symbols were hidden? It'd also have to turn off handles and guidelines for beziers. -Lars -- Lars Clausen (http://shasta.cs.uiuc.edu/~lrclause)| Hårdgrim of Numenor "I do not agree with a word that you say, but I | will defend to the death your right to say it." | Where are we going, and --Evelyn Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire | what's with the handbasket? ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: Drawing instead of Untitled
On 14 Jan 2003, Lars Clausen wrote: > Date: 14 Jan 2003 17:17:43 -0600 > From: Lars Clausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Drawing instead of Untitled > > On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Alan Horkan wrote: > > > > I think in the Save dialog we should prompt with the name Drawing %d > > rather than Untitled. > > > > Way more verbose description here > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103415 > > > > I uncluded a patch, i could commit it myself but i figured maybe i should > > run it past you guys first. > > I like Diagram-N.dia better than Drawing-N.dia, as that reinforces the idea > that Dia is for diagrams, not drawings. Sodipodi is for drawings. Other > than that, go ahead and apply. Do you think the hyphen is necessary? - Alan ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: page size options
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Sean Bickel wrote: > I am using dia .90 for win32 and was wondering if there is a way to set > custom page sizes. I am wanting to set a drawing based on an "E" size > page. Not without recompiling (for instructions, see recent list messages from Steffen). It's in lib/paper.c. Would be good to allow adding new paper sizes. -Lars -- Lars Clausen (http://shasta.cs.uiuc.edu/~lrclause)| Hårdgrim of Numenor "I do not agree with a word that you say, but I | will defend to the death your right to say it." | Where are we going, and --Evelyn Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire | what's with the handbasket? ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: Anyone interested in a Perl plugin?
On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Steven Lembark wrote: > > Given a dash of Inline it should be fairly easy to do. Since there's a Python plugin already, I can't see any reason why a Perl plugin shouldn't be feasible. I haven't heard much call for it yet, but "build it and they will come", perhaps. -Lars -- Lars Clausen (http://shasta.cs.uiuc.edu/~lrclause)| Hårdgrim of Numenor "I do not agree with a word that you say, but I | will defend to the death your right to say it." | Where are we going, and --Evelyn Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire | what's with the handbasket? ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: Drawing instead of Untitled
On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Alan Horkan wrote: > > On 14 Jan 2003, Lars Clausen wrote: > >> Date: 14 Jan 2003 17:17:43 -0600 >> From: Lars Clausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: Drawing instead of Untitled >> >> On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Alan Horkan wrote: >> > >> > I think in the Save dialog we should prompt with the name Drawing %d >> > rather than Untitled. >> > >> > Way more verbose description here >> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103415 >> > >> > I uncluded a patch, i could commit it myself but i figured maybe i >> > should run it past you guys first. >> >> I like Diagram-N.dia better than Drawing-N.dia, as that reinforces the >> idea that Dia is for diagrams, not drawings. Sodipodi is for drawings. >> Other than that, go ahead and apply. > > Do you think the hyphen is necessary? Not really... I'm fine with or without it. -Lars -- Lars Clausen (http://shasta.cs.uiuc.edu/~lrclause)| Hårdgrim of Numenor "I do not agree with a word that you say, but I | will defend to the death your right to say it." | Where are we going, and --Evelyn Beatrice Hall paraphrasing Voltaire | what's with the handbasket? ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: Drawing instead of Untitled
On Wed, 2003-01-15 at 00:22, Alan Horkan wrote: > On 14 Jan 2003, Lars Clausen wrote: > > > Date: 14 Jan 2003 17:17:43 -0600 > > From: Lars Clausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Drawing instead of Untitled > > > > On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Alan Horkan wrote: > > > > > > I think in the Save dialog we should prompt with the name Drawing %d > > > rather than Untitled. > > > > > > Way more verbose description here > > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103415 > > > > > > I uncluded a patch, i could commit it myself but i figured maybe i should > > > run it past you guys first. > > > > I like Diagram-N.dia better than Drawing-N.dia, as that reinforces the idea > > that Dia is for diagrams, not drawings. Sodipodi is for drawings. Other > > than that, go ahead and apply. > > Do you think the hyphen is necessary? > > - Alan A good idea also would be to add a .dia extension if none is given. ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: Drawing instead of Untitled
> A good idea also would be to add a .dia extension if none is given. For some reason i assumed this was already happening, sorry i dimissed it the first time. I'll definately take a look at it and at the very least i will file a bug report. I'll probably fix it eventually. Patches are very welcome... - Alan ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
Re: Anyone interested in a Perl plugin?
--- Lars Clausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, Steven Lembark wrote: > > > > Given a dash of Inline it should be fairly easy to do. > > Since there's a Python plugin already, I can't see any reason why a > Perl > plugin shouldn't be feasible. I haven't heard much call for it yet, > but > "build it and they will come", perhaps. I am very interested in a perl plugin. what has been stopping me is the time get get into the object model. there is the gobject model, the bonobo one, the dia one. what model do you want to script? mike = James Michael DuPont http://introspector.sourceforge.net/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ___ Dia-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia/faq.html Main page at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~alla/dia
