Re: Reminder - Team FTF meeting, make your travel plans now

2016-04-15 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Sanjeev Gupta :
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Gary E. Miller  wrote:
> 
> > Oh, I'm bringing some guns.  :-)
> 
> 
> Well, that is one way to clean up the issue tracker[1], I suppose.
> 
> [1] Offer a free training lesson to anyone who closes a bug.  Jeez, what
> were you thinking I meant?

Free training will indeed be offered at the Geeks With Guns range expedition
early Friday afternoon. I will be one of the range officers.
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Re: Reminder - Team FTF meeting, make your travel plans now

2016-04-15 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Gary E. Miller :
> Yo Eric!
> 
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 01:30:54 -0400
> "Eric S. Raymond"  wrote:
> 
> > Gary E. Miller :
> > > Anyone going near the airport Thursday night?  
> > 
> > Possibly Cathy and me.  What time are you landing?
> 
> That would be great.  I in at 8pm from MSP.

Arrgh.  No can do. By 8PM we'll already have been there for hours
in order to make the GOH dinner.  Sorry.
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Finding abusive NTP clients

2016-04-15 Thread Hal Murray

I just pushed a tweak to ntpq's mrulist command to provide more info if the 
average
interval between requests is tiny.  Anybody running a pool server might like 
to try it out.

It now looks like this:

ntpq> hostnames no
ntpq> mru mincount=1000 sort=avgint
Ctrl-C will stop MRU retrieval and display partial results.
Retrieved 239 unique MRU entries and 0 updates.
lstint avgint rstr r m v  count rport remote address
==
 35374   0.03  190 . 3 4   5046 44762 64.72.56.95
   670   0.04  190 . 3 4   4148 38778 162.243.188.66
 57962   0.06  190 . 3 4   1345 33523 96.41.112.161
 90455   0.07  190 . 3 3   1877 49488 2601:644:500:e800:a9d6:8245:1f95:b31b
 66199   0.07  190 . 3 3   2081 54645 159.191.174.119
 47234   0.07  190 . 3 3   1084 40403 108.227.128.23
 62845   0.08  190 . 3 3   1956 47876 71.95.206.54
 19026   0.08  190 . 3 1   3931 63329 190.14.219.238
   460   0.08  190 . 3 4   1877 56897 72.130.39.211
 40670   0.08  190 . 3 3   1629 42184 98.203.248.229
 90375   0.09  190 . 3 4   1185 38002 24.56.50.247
 60720   0.09  190 . 3 3   1599 65462 216.100.91.14
 16506   0.09  190 . 3 3   1026 57813 75.172.167.145
  7633   0.09  190 . 3 3   1557 37974 67.1.146.70
 58813   0.10  190 . 3 1   3134  2410 73.179.193.171
  5947   0.10  190 . 3 3   1171 52276 104.32.81.108
 90798   0.11  190 . 3 4   1388 34042 198.199.99.66
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Re: Reminder - Team FTF meeting, make your travel plans now

2016-04-15 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Gary E. Miller :
> Anyone going near the airport Thursday night?

Possibly Cathy and me.  What time are you landing?

> Oh, I'm bringing some guns.  :-)

Excellent.  Geeks With Guns will welcome you.
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Re: Finding abusive NTP clients

2016-04-15 Thread Sanjeev Gupta
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 7:05 PM, Hal Murray  wrote:

> I just pushed a tweak to ntpq's mrulist command to provide more info if the
> average
> interval between requests is tiny.  Anybody running a pool server might
> like
> to try it out.
>

I am running a server in the SG pool.  Suggestions welcome.

root@ntpmon:~/ntpsec# ntpq -V
ntpd 0.9.3-e13b054 Apr 15 2016 22:07:22
root@ntpmon:~/ntpsec# clear
root@ntpmon:~/ntpsec# ntpq
ntpq> hostnames no
ntpq>  mru mincount=1000 sort=avgint
Ctrl-C will stop MRU retrieval and display partial results.
Retrieved 58 unique MRU entries and 0 updates.
lstint avgint rstr r m v  count rport remote address
==
 0   0.01  1f0 L 3 4  32250   123 27.126.220.102
 0   0.02  1f0 L 3 4  35659   123 27.126.220.105
 0   0.02  1f0 L 3 4  35789   123 27.126.220.106
 0   0.02  1f0 L 3 4  35766   123 27.126.220.103
 0   0.02  1f0 L 3 4  35780   123 27.126.220.101
 0   0.02  1f0 L 3 4  32843   123 27.126.220.104
 1   0.51  1f0 L 3 3 2877243 18012 202.136.171.166
 0   1.14  1f0 L 3 4 1282569 54878 52.74.115.126
 1   1.71  5f0 K 1 1   1074 49332 116.87.59.232
14   2.35  1f0 L 3 4   5761 44258 52.74.95.23
 0   2.91  1f0 L 3 4  86573 52007 58.182.99.14
 4   2.92  1f0 L 3 4 454070  7950 155.69.160.32
 2   3.14  1f0 L 3 3 159948   356 110.50.226.157
 1   3.24  1f0 L 3 4  75141 38130 116.87.179.211
 3   4.69  1f0 L 3 3 311400 59081 202.151.35.238


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Re: Finding abusive NTP clients

2016-04-15 Thread Mark Atwood
++

On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 7:28 AM Sanjeev Gupta  wrote:

>
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 7:05 PM, Hal Murray 
> wrote:
>
>> I just pushed a tweak to ntpq's mrulist command to provide more info if
>> the
>> average
>> interval between requests is tiny.  Anybody running a pool server might
>> like
>> to try it out.
>>
>
> I am running a server in the SG pool.  Suggestions welcome.
>
> root@ntpmon:~/ntpsec# ntpq -V
> ntpd 0.9.3-e13b054 Apr 15 2016 22:07:22
> root@ntpmon:~/ntpsec# clear
> root@ntpmon:~/ntpsec# ntpq
>
> ntpq> hostnames no
> ntpq>  mru mincount=1000 sort=avgint
> Ctrl-C will stop MRU retrieval and display partial results.
> Retrieved 58 unique MRU entries and 0 updates.
>
> lstint avgint rstr r m v  count rport remote address
>
> ==
>  0   0.01  1f0 L 3 4  32250   123 27.126.220.102
>  0   0.02  1f0 L 3 4  35659   123 27.126.220.105
>  0   0.02  1f0 L 3 4  35789   123 27.126.220.106
>  0   0.02  1f0 L 3 4  35766   123 27.126.220.103
>  0   0.02  1f0 L 3 4  35780   123 27.126.220.101
>  0   0.02  1f0 L 3 4  32843   123 27.126.220.104
>  1   0.51  1f0 L 3 3 2877243 18012 202.136.171.166
>  0   1.14  1f0 L 3 4 1282569 54878 52.74.115.126
>  1   1.71  5f0 K 1 1   1074 49332 116.87.59.232
> 14   2.35  1f0 L 3 4   5761 44258 52.74.95.23
>  0   2.91  1f0 L 3 4  86573 52007 58.182.99.14
>  4   2.92  1f0 L 3 4 454070  7950 155.69.160.32
>  2   3.14  1f0 L 3 3 159948   356 110.50.226.157
>  1   3.24  1f0 L 3 4  75141 38130 116.87.179.211
>  3   4.69  1f0 L 3 3 311400 59081 202.151.35.238
>
>
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soon, Navisys GR-701-W

2016-04-15 Thread Mark Atwood
Hi!

I have just ordered a batch of the Navisys GR-701-W USB connected GPS
receivers.  They are probably at least 5 weeks from delivery to my
hackerspace.   When they arrive, I will ship some to some NTPsec people,
and then put the rest up for sale as an electronics part up on Etsy and
Tindie, probably for about $45/each.   If I work out a good enough way to
do it, I may have the NTPsec logo & url silkscreened onto the them.

The GR-701-W provides only a USB interface, and so lacks the final
precision of a PPS interface.  OTOH, someone can just thoughtlessly plug
one into a random PC or WRG, install gpsd&ntpsec, and have a good-enough
compliant stratum 1 server.

I decided not to at this time order a lot of the Navisys GR-701-T, which is
a TTL interface with a PPS line.  While this is a more precise source and
easier for RasbPi/etc hobbyists, they are more likely to want to use the
GPS receiver HAT and daughterboard units already easily available to them.

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Re: soon, Navisys GR-701-W

2016-04-15 Thread Amar Takhar
On 2016-04-15 17:57 +, Mark Atwood wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I have just ordered a batch of the Navisys GR-701-W USB connected GPS
> receivers.?? They are probably at least 5 weeks from delivery to my
> hackerspace. When they arrive, I will ship some to some NTPsec people, and
> then put the rest up for sale as an electronics part up on Etsy and Tindie,
> probably for about $45/each. If I work out a good enough way to do it, I 
> may
> have the NTPsec logo & url silkscreened onto the them.

Very cool!  I could certainly take two of these.  I have been looking for some 
USB GPS receivers but I have absolutely no idea bout them.  It's tough to find 
one that seems reasonable/reliable.


> I decided not to at this time order a lot of the Navisys GR-701-T, which is a
> TTL interface with a PPS line.?? While this is a more precise source and 
> easier
> for RasbPi/etc hobbyists, they are more likely to want to use the GPS receiver
> HAT and daughterboard units already easily available to them.

Makes sense.  I'm looking at buying ~20 GPS chips and soldering up my own 
boards 
for them.  This way if the chip fails all I have to do is replace that the rest 
of the parts will be robust.  They're going to be cycled a lot so I expect a 
lot 
of failures over time.


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Re: soon, Navisys GR-701-W

2016-04-15 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Mark!

On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 17:57:30 +
Mark Atwood  wrote:

> The GR-701-W provides only a USB interface, and so lacks the final
> precision of a PPS interface.

Only a low speed USB interface.

I have been beating on them to upgrade to High Speed.  That ups
the PPS from +/1 1mill Sec to around +/- 125 micro Sec.

> plug one into a random PC or WRG, install gpsd&ntpsec, and have a
> good-enough compliant stratum 1 server.

Yup.

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Re: Reminder - Team FTF meeting, make your travel plans now

2016-04-15 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Eric!

On Fri, 15 Apr 2016 06:59:07 -0400
"Eric S. Raymond"  wrote:

> > That would be great.  I in at 8pm from MSP.  
> 
> Arrgh.  No can do. By 8PM we'll already have been there for hours
> in order to make the GOH dinner.  Sorry.

No worries, I'll get something to work.

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