Re: [SailfishDevel] Available today 1pm EET: Sailfish Community Program & Jolla C second batch

[r0kk3rz]

James, is it possible to also send this message to Harbour developers?

This was a criticism of the last batch announcement, and it makes sense
that you might want harbour developers to join the program too.

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 7:17 AM, Jolla Community 
wrote:

> *Dear all on the Sailfish Developer mailing list,*
>
> We are super excited to announce that we’ve secured a new batch of Jolla C
> devices, and can thus take more participants to the Sailfish Community
> Device Program . The new batch is a very limited
> one, meaning that we can take only a few hundred new participants to the
> program.
>
> This is a heads up for all of you on the Sailfish developer mailing list.
> The Jolla Shop for the program  (LINK) will open
> to everybody *today June 14th at 1pm Finnish time (noon CEST)*. As it is
> a very limited batch please be quick to secure your place and your very own
> Jolla C device.
>
> Read more about the Sailfish Community here
> , and check the Jolla C product page
> .
>
> *For a smooth Jolla Shop experience:*
>
> To secure your place in the Sailfish Community Device Program and get the
> Jolla C, please keep in mind the following when entering the Jolla Shop:
>
> 1. Select and save your country/region for the Jolla Shop from the
> drop-down menu at the bottom of the page  – see below for reference:
>
> [image: Country and Region image]
>
> 2. Sometimes an order gets stuck in "Waiting for Payment" status. Should
> this happen to you, we kindly advise you to complete a new order at your
> earliest convenience; please do not attempt to fix or otherwise redo an
> existing order. While this may lead to having multiple failed orders with
> this status, our experience has shown that eventually reordering will
> result in a successfully completed order.  Jolla will then cancel any
> orders in the shop that are stuck in "Waiting for Payment" status without
> prior consent or notification.
>
> If you did not secure your place already, we hope to see you soon in the
> Sailfish Community Device Program!
>
> Kind Regards,
> James Noori, on behalf of the Jolla Team
>
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Available today 1pm EET: Sailfish Community Program & Jolla C second batch

[James Noori]

About the Harbour issue:

All of the developers should technically be here on the Devel mailing 
list as we do not have a separate mailing list for Harbour members.



James

On 2016-06-14 09:39, r0kk3rz wrote:

James, is it possible to also send this message to Harbour developers?

This was a criticism of the last batch announcement, and it makes 
sense that you might want harbour developers to join the program too.


On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 7:17 AM, Jolla Community > wrote:


/Dear all on the Sailfish Developer mailing list,/

We are super excited to announce that we’ve secured a new batch of
Jolla C devices, and can thus take more participants to the
Sailfish Community Device Program . The
new batch is a very limited one, meaning that we can take only a
few hundred new participants to the program.

This is a heads up for all of you on the Sailfish developer
mailing list. The Jolla Shop for the program
 (LINK) will open to everybody _today June
14th at 1pm Finnish time (noon CEST)_. As it is a very limited
batch please be quick to secure your place and your very own Jolla
C device.

Read more about the Sailfish Community here
, and check the Jolla C product
page .

*For a smooth Jolla Shop experience:*

To secure your place in the Sailfish Community Device Program and
get the Jolla C, please keep in mind the following when entering
the Jolla Shop:

1. Select and save your country/region for the Jolla Shop from the
drop-down menu at the bottom of the page  – see below for reference:

Country and Region image

2. Sometimes an order gets stuck in "Waiting for Payment" status.
Should this happen to you, we kindly advise you to complete a new
order at your earliest convenience; please do not attempt to fix
or otherwise redo an existing order. While this may lead to having
multiple failed orders with this status, our experience has shown
that eventually reordering will result in a successfully completed
order.  Jolla will then cancel any orders in the shop that are
stuck in "Waiting for Payment" status without prior consent or
notification.

If you did not secure your place already, we hope to see you soon
in the Sailfish Community Device Program!

Kind Regards,
James Noori, on behalf of the Jolla Team

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device Program and Jolla C

[Chris Walker]

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:00:14 +0200
James Noori  wrote:

> /Dear Sailfish Developer Mailing List Member, /
> 
> We are super excited to announce that we’ve secured a new batch of
> Jolla C devices, and can thus take more participants to the Sailfish
> Community Device Program. The new batch is a very limited one,
> meaning that we can take only a few hundred new participants to the
> program.
> 
> This limited batch is now available, get yours!
> 
> JOIN NOW 
> 
>  

Sold out by 12:10?

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device Program and Jolla C

[Claudio Campeggi]

I've been checking the website after 12:00 UTC and to me ot never went on sale 
in the first place.. always out of stock.


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Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:18:02 +0100
From: Chris Walker 
To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org
Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device
Program and Jolla C
Message-ID: <20160614121802.5c88f...@the-walker-household.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:00:14 +0200
James Noori  wrote:

> /Dear Sailfish Developer Mailing List Member, /
>
> We are super excited to announce that we?ve secured a new batch of
> Jolla C devices, and can thus take more participants to the Sailfish
> Community Device Program. The new batch is a very limited one,
> meaning that we can take only a few hundred new participants to the
> program.
>
> This limited batch is now available, get yours!
>
> JOIN NOW
> 
[http://shop.jolla.com/media/images/default/jolla-device-fb-share-1.jpg]

Jolla Online Shop | SAILFISH COMMUNITY DEVICE PROGRAM - Community & 
Developers
shop.jolla.com
uploads/2016/05/JollaC_Device.jpg" alt="Jolla C" style="width:100%; height: 
auto;">



Sold out by 12:10?



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Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device Program and Jolla C

[Claudio Campeggi]

It seems that today's Jolla C batch went on sale at 10:00 UTC instead of the 
Announced 12:00 UTC


It is consistent with the time James sent the announcement email:

https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2016-June/007190.html

James Noori james.noori at jolla.com 

Tue Jun 14 10:00:14 UTC 2016


and is consistent with TJC posts on the new sale:
https://together.jolla.com/question/135407/jolla-c-campaign-to-add-more-users-whos-interested/?answer=136393#post-id-136393


so that explains why is already sold out.


well, let's wait for a new batch..





I've been checking the website after 12:00 UTC and to me ot never went on sale 
in the first place.. always out of stock.


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Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:18:02 +0100
From: Chris Walker 
To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org
Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device
Program and Jolla C
Message-ID: <20160614121802.5c88f...@the-walker-household.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:00:14 +0200
James Noori  wrote:

> /Dear Sailfish Developer Mailing List Member, /
>
> We are super excited to announce that we?ve secured a new batch of
> Jolla C devices, and can thus take more participants to the Sailfish
> Community Device Program. The new batch is a very limited one,
> meaning that we can take only a few hundred new participants to the
> program.
>
> This limited batch is now available, get yours!
>
> JOIN NOW
> 
[http://shop.jolla.com/media/images/default/jolla-device-fb-share-1.jpg]

Jolla Online Shop | SAILFISH COMMUNITY DEVICE PROGRAM - Community & 
Developers
shop.jolla.com
uploads/2016/05/JollaC_Device.jpg" alt="Jolla C" style="width:100%; height: 
auto;">



Sold out by 12:10?



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Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device Program and Jolla C

[Chris Walker]

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:27:53 +
Claudio Campeggi  wrote:

> It seems that today's Jolla C batch went on sale at 10:00 UTC instead
> of the Announced 12:00 UTC
> 
> 
> It is consistent with the time James sent the announcement email:
> 
> https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2016-June/007190.html

It isn't consistent at all!

The email to me was trimed at 12:00 UK time viz :-
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:00:14 +0200
James Noori  wrote:

I'm mightily pissed off about this.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Devel Digest, Vol 26, Issue 23

[Christopher Frost]

I managed to order one. They went on sale at 10:59am in the UK. That's 1
hour before central Europe time and 2 hours before Finland time. They
said it would go on at 1pm Finland time so I think it was correct.

They really do need to put more on sale though, I'm amazed Intex won't
sell them more OEM units.


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> To: "devel@lists.sailfishos.org" 
> Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device
>   Program and Jolla C
> Message-ID:
>   
> 
>   
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> I've been checking the website after 12:00 UTC and to me ot never went on
> sale in the first place.. always out of stock.
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:18:02 +0100
> From: Chris Walker 
> To: devel@lists.sailfishos.org
> Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device
> Program and Jolla C
> Message-ID: <20160614121802.5c88f...@the-walker-household.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:00:14 +0200
> James Noori  wrote:
> 
> > /Dear Sailfish Developer Mailing List Member, /
> >
> > We are super excited to announce that we?ve secured a new batch of
> > Jolla C devices, and can thus take more participants to the Sailfish
> > Community Device Program. The new batch is a very limited one,
> > meaning that we can take only a few hundred new participants to the
> > program.
> >
> > This limited batch is now available, get yours!
> >
> > JOIN NOW
> > <http://shop.jolla.com/eu_en/sailfish-community/sfos-community-developer-programme-offering.html>
> [http://shop.jolla.com/media/images/default/jolla-device-fb-share-1.jpg]<http://shop.jolla.com/eu_en/sailfish-community/sfos-community-developer-programme-offering.html>
> 
> Jolla Online Shop | SAILFISH COMMUNITY DEVICE PROGRAM - Community &
> Developers<http://shop.jolla.com/eu_en/sailfish-community/sfos-community-developer-programme-offering.html>
> shop.jolla.com
> uploads/2016/05/JollaC_Device.jpg" alt="Jolla C" style="width:100%;
> height: auto;">
> 
> 
> 
> Sold out by 12:10?
> 
> 
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> From: Claudio Campeggi 
> To: "devel@lists.sailfishos.org" 
> Subject: Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device
>   Program and Jolla C
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>   
> 
>   
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> It seems that today's Jolla C batch went on sale at 10:00 UTC instead of
> the Announced 12:00 UTC
> 
> 
> It is consistent with the time James sent the announcement email:
> 
> https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2016-June/007190.html
> 
> James Noori james.noori at jolla.com
> <mailto:devel%40lists.sailfishos.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BSailfishDevel%5D%20Available%20now%3A%20Sailfish%20Community%20Device%20P

Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device Program and Jolla C

[r0kk3rz]

it says CEST, not UTC. Which is UTC+2 according to google

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Chris Walker <
cdw_noki...@the-walker-household.co.uk> wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:27:53 +
> Claudio Campeggi  wrote:
>
> > It seems that today's Jolla C batch went on sale at 10:00 UTC instead
> > of the Announced 12:00 UTC
> >
> >
> > It is consistent with the time James sent the announcement email:
> >
> > https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2016-June/007190.html
>
> It isn't consistent at all!
>
> The email to me was trimed at 12:00 UK time viz :-
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:00:14 +0200
> James Noori  wrote:
>
> I'm mightily pissed off about this.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device Program and Jolla C

[Ruediger Schiller]

Time announced on ML was 1pm EET (local .fi time), which is UTC+3, the shop 
went online
couple of minutes past 10:00 UTC which is 1pm EET.

How is UK time +0200? BST is UTC+1?!

James, you might want to announce in UTC from now on.

On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 01:55:40PM +0100, Chris Walker wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:27:53 +
> Claudio Campeggi  wrote:
> 
> > It seems that today's Jolla C batch went on sale at 10:00 UTC instead
> > of the Announced 12:00 UTC
> > 
> > 
> > It is consistent with the time James sent the announcement email:
> > 
> > https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2016-June/007190.html
> 
> It isn't consistent at all!
> 
> The email to me was trimed at 12:00 UK time viz :-
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:00:14 +0200
> James Noori  wrote:
> 
> I'm mightily pissed off about this.
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so long and thanks for all the fish


Rüdiger Schiller
++
| +** *Chem|st * **+ |
| ++ |
| ++ |
++



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Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device Program and Jolla C

[Harald Schmitt]

Am 14.06.2016 um 15:07 schrieb Ruediger Schiller:
> Time announced on ML was 1pm EET (local .fi time), which is UTC+3, the shop 
> went online
> couple of minutes past 10:00 UTC which is 1pm EET.
>
> How is UK time +0200? BST is UTC+1?!
>
> James, you might want to announce in UTC from now on.
>
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 01:55:40PM +0100, Chris Walker wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:27:53 +
>> Claudio Campeggi  wrote:
>>
>>> It seems that today's Jolla C batch went on sale at 10:00 UTC instead
>>> of the Announced 12:00 UTC
>>>
>>>
>>> It is consistent with the time James sent the announcement email:
>>>
>>> https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2016-June/007190.html
>> It isn't consistent at all!
>>
>> The email to me was trimed at 12:00 UK time viz :-
>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:00:14 +0200
>> James Noori  wrote:
>>
>> I'm mightily pissed off about this.
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> so long and thanks for all the fish
>
>
> Rüdiger Schiller
> ++
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> | ++ |
> | ++ |
> ++
>
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I recommend you link to timeanddate.com it is a nice tool.
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20160614T13&p1=101
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Devel Digest, Vol 26, Issue 23

[Timur Kristóf]

Hey,On k, 2016-06-14 at 14:00 +0100, Christopher Frost wrote:
> 
> They really do need to put more on sale though, I'm amazed Intex
> won't
> sell them more OEM units.
> 

As far as I heard, the Jolla C is not an Intex device. (Although it
contains similar hardware.)
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device Program and Jolla C

[Chris Walker]

On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 15:39:41 +0200
Harald Schmitt  wrote:

> >> Claudio Campeggi  wrote:
> >>  
> >>> It seems that today's Jolla C batch went on sale at 10:00 UTC
> >>> instead of the Announced 12:00 UTC
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It is consistent with the time James sent the announcement email:
> >>>
> >>> https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2016-June/007190.html  
> >> It isn't consistent at all!
> >>
> >> The email to me was timed at 12:00 UK time viz :-
> >> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:00:14 +0200
> >> James Noori  wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm mightily pissed off about this.

> I recommend you link to timeanddate.com it is a nice tool.
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20160614T13&p1=101

I think you're all missing the point. Yes I screwed up by mis-reading
the time BUT, I got an email at 12 o'clock UK time saying that the
devices were now available when plainly they weren't. They had all been
sold by then. So I claim the email mis-represented the state of the
store. Hence why I was pissed off.

I can't change things now but it sure leaves a bad taste.
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Re: [SailfishDevel] Available now: Sailfish Community Device Program and Jolla C

[Dietmar Schwertberger]

On 14.06.2016 18:38, Chris Walker wrote:

I think you're all missing the point. Yes I screwed up by mis-reading
the time BUT, I got an email at 12 o'clock UK time saying that the
devices were now available when plainly they weren't. They had all been
sold by then. So I claim the email mis-represented the state of the
store. Hence why I was pissed off.
I'm a bit surprised, as I got mine exactly at 12:01 CEST, which was in 
time to order.
And according to the headers of my mail server, the mail to this list 
was also at 12:00 CEST.


Regards,

Dietmar

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Re: [SailfishDevel] Available today 1pm EET: Sailfish Community Program & Jolla C second batch

[Martin Kolman]

Tue, 14 Jun 2016 12:05:48 +0200 James Noori:

About the Harbour issue:

All of the developers should technically be here on the Devel mailing 
list as we do not have a separate mailing list for Harbour members.
I think the idea is to send an email to all developers registered to 
Harbour about such things - like a *developer* program. :)


There could be a non trivial amount of people who registered to Harbour 
and develop/want to develop applications for Sailfish OS

but are not subscribed to the sailfish-devel mailing list.



James

On 2016-06-14 09:39, r0kk3rz wrote:

James, is it possible to also send this message to Harbour developers?

This was a criticism of the last batch announcement, and it makes 
sense that you might want harbour developers to join the program too.


On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 7:17 AM, Jolla Community > wrote:


/Dear all on the Sailfish Developer mailing list,/

We are super excited to announce that we’ve secured a new batch
of Jolla C devices, and can thus take more participants to the
Sailfish Community Device Program . The
new batch is a very limited one, meaning that we can take only a
few hundred new participants to the program.

This is a heads up for all of you on the Sailfish developer
mailing list. The Jolla Shop for the program
 (LINK) will open to everybody _today June
14th at 1pm Finnish time (noon CEST)_. As it is a very limited
batch please be quick to secure your place and your very own
Jolla C device.

Read more about the Sailfish Community here
, and check the Jolla C product
page .

*For a smooth Jolla Shop experience:*

To secure your place in the Sailfish Community Device Program and
get the Jolla C, please keep in mind the following when entering
the Jolla Shop:

1. Select and save your country/region for the Jolla Shop from
the drop-down menu at the bottom of the page  – see below for
reference:

Country and Region image

2. Sometimes an order gets stuck in "Waiting for Payment" status.
Should this happen to you, we kindly advise you to complete a new
order at your earliest convenience; please do not attempt to fix
or otherwise redo an existing order. While this may lead to
having multiple failed orders with this status, our experience
has shown that eventually reordering will result in a
successfully completed order.  Jolla will then cancel any orders
in the shop that are stuck in "Waiting for Payment" status
without prior consent or notification.

If you did not secure your place already, we hope to see you soon
in the Sailfish Community Device Program!

Kind Regards,
James Noori, on behalf of the Jolla Team

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