Request of review

[Sylvia]

Hello everyone!

Lesik  (Oles Pidgornyy) has this package and would like to know if
anyone could kindly review and see if there's any changes or additions
that are necessary to package this programme for Fedora.

Here's a bug opened: 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1377038 


Thank you very much!



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Self Introduction

[Sylvia]

Hello world,

My name is Sylvia, I write articles in the Fedora Magazine and
translate for Spanish and Portuguese teams.  Also I design sometimes,
but just for fun, I'm not in the team.
Now I'm starting over with Python and I want to learn and contribute to
Fedora as developer as well.


Cheers,
Sylvia





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Re: Self Introduction

[Sylvia]

Oh, yes!  Thank you!

Cheers,
Sylvia

On Mon, 2016-09-19 at 04:40 -0400, Charalampos Stratakis wrote:
> Hello and welcome!
> 
> > If you are interested in Python specifics you can always take a look
a Python-SIG's wiki page [0]
> 
> [0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Python
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Charalampos Stratakis
> Associate Software Engineer
> Python Maintenance Team, Red Hat
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Sylvia" 
> To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 7:28:30 PM
> Subject: Self Introduction
> 
> 
> Hello world, 
> 
> > > My name is Sylvia, I write articles in the Fedora Magazine and
translate for Spanish and Portuguese teams. Also I design sometimes,
but just for fun, I'm not in the team. 
> > Now I'm starting over with Python and I want to learn and contribute
to Fedora as developer as well. 
> 
> 
> Cheers, 
> Sylvia 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2016-09-19 Fedora QA Meeting

[Sylvia]

Hello

Fine for me.

Cheers,
Sylvia
On Sun, 2016-09-18 at 13:03 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Hi folks! I'm proposing we cancel tomorrow's QA meeting. All the
> follow-up from last week is about Test Days and I think Sumantro's on
> top of that; remember the Media Writer Test Day is on Tuesday! If
> anyone does have any topics that need discussing please reply to this
> mail and we can run the meeting.
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Re: Locked memory limits are too low

[Sylvia]

Hello!

I think it's reasonable to raise the value, not sure how much, but
definitely should be higher.


Cheers,
Sylvia


On Tue, 2016-09-20 at 00:00 -0700, Thomas Daede wrote:
> > For Fedora Workstation, the current limit on mlock()ed memory per
user
> is 64kiB, which less than what some applications need.
> 
> In particular, Bitcoin Core uses mlock() to prevent private keys from
> > being swapped to disk. The total size of the wallet keys can exceed
300kB.
> 
> Audio is another use case that uses mlock() to prevent skips. Fedora
> > already has special cases for some apps such as jack, which it gives
4GB.
> 
> It looks like another custom rule was given to qemu recently:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1293024
> 
> The reason for the restriction is presumably an anti-DoS measure for
> multi-user systems. It's not really clear where the 64kiB value came
> from though - it seems like it could be much, much higher.
> 
> Thoughts on raising the value?
> 
> - Thomas
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Re: Locked memory limits are too low

[Sylvia]

I think yes, that's the reason.  Besides, I agree with Björn about
setting a 1% of the total memory.

Cheers, 
Sylvia
On Tue, 2016-09-20 at 09:40 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Tue, 2016-09-20 at 00:00 -0700, Thomas Daede wrote:
> > For Fedora Workstation, the current limit on mlock()ed memory per
> > user
> > is 64kiB, which less than what some applications need.
> 
> Could this be why memory locking in seahorse/gnome-keyring has been
> broken for years?
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Re: Self Introduction

[Sylvia]

Thank you! Gracias! Obrigado!


On Thu, 2016-09-22 at 07:38 +0300, Benson Muite wrote:
> 
> Hello /Bom Dia!
> Welcome/Bem-vindo!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 09/18/2016 08:28 PM, Sylvia wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> >   
> > 
> >   
> > 
> >   Hello world,
> > 
> >   
> > 
> >   
> > 
> >   My name is Sylvia, I write articles in the Fedora Magazine
> > > > and translate for Spanish and Portuguese teams.  Also I
design
> > sometimes, but just for fun, I'm not in the team.
> > 
> >   Now I'm starting over with Python and I want to learn and
> > contribute to Fedora as developer as well.
> > 
> >   
> > 
> >   
> > 
> >   
> > 
> >   
> > 
> >   Cheers,
> > 
> >   Sylvia
> > 
> >   
> > 
> >   
> > 
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> >   
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Re: Self Introduction

[Sylvia]

I know C language too.  :-) 


Cheers,
Sylvia


On Thu, 2016-09-22 at 16:28 +0100, Jules Octave wrote:
> > looks cool , wanna join the developer . but i am more a C guy than a
python guy but i will not mind .
> Thanks 
> 
> 
> 
> Worthy 
> 
> 
> Jules Irenge
> MSc Student
> University of Liverpool
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 2016-09-22 8:28 GMT+01:00 Sylvia :
> > 
> >   
> >   
> > 
> > Thank you! Gracias! Obrigado!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, 2016-09-22 at 07:38 +0300, Benson Muite wrote:
> > > Hello /Bom Dia!
> > > Welcome/Bem-vindo!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 09/18/2016 08:28 PM, Sylvia wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > >   Hello world,
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > > > > > >   My name is Sylvia, I write articles in the Fedora
Magazine
> > > > > > > > and translate for Spanish and Portuguese teams.  Also I
design
> > > > sometimes, but just for fun, I'm not in the team.
> > > > 
> > > >   Now I'm starting over with Python and I want to learn and
> > > > contribute to Fedora as developer as well.
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > >   Cheers,
> > > > 
> > > >   Sylvia
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > >   
> > > > 
> > > >   
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Re: duplicate package on fresh install

[Sylvia]

Hello,

This is maybe a silly question but...  if you're architecture is, let's
say x86_64, why would anything install an i686 version of the same
package?


Cheers,
Sylvia

On Fri, 2016-09-23 at 06:15 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> > 
> Could be lots of reasons. An x86_64 and i686 library installed
> simultaneously can appear confusingly as duplicate libraries if you
> > don't ask rpm to report architecture. A system interruption during
the
> > update can block rpm from clearing the old entries in its database.
Or
> a failure of '%post' operations can cause the update to fail partway
> through.
> 
> > The usual answer if there are genuinely two copies reported is to do
a
> "reinstall" if it's two distinct versions of the same package, and to
> do an "rpm --rebuilddb" and see if that helps.
> 
> > 
> > regards,
> > Nikos
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Re: duplicate package on fresh install

[Sylvia]

Oh, I see, thanks.  I remember a couple of years ago that Fedora
installed 32-bits stuff by itself and I ended with a messed system, but
I guess that was a bug.


Thank you!
Sylvia


On Sat, 2016-09-24 at 14:46 +0300, Alexander Ploumistos wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Sylvia  wrote:
> > > > This is maybe a silly question but...  if you're architecture is,
let's say
> > > > x86_64, why would anything install an i686 version of the same
package?
> 
> If you install a 32-bit program, it may pull in other i686
> dependencies. See what happens if you try to install skype's rpm.
> There is also the case of compiling stuff for i686.
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Re: Attempting to contact unresponsive maintainers - zeenix, theinric, ifarkas, mchalk

[Sylvia]

Craig Barnes is a name that sounds familiar to me, but it's been a ling
while since I heard a word from him.


Cheers,
Sylvia

On Wed, 2016-09-28 at 08:15 +, jack smith wrote:
> 2 others maintainers don't respond
> 
> Craig Barnes (Discount)
> 
> Eric Smith (Gsmartcontrol)
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Re: FAS name change

[Sylvia]

Hello Athos!

Did you solve your problem in Bodhi?


Cheers,
Sylvia

On Sat, 2016-10-01 at 10:55 -0300, Athos Coimbra Ribeiro wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> > As I am getting more involved in Fedora, I decided to go for a FAS
name
> change to better represent my presence on mailing lists and IRC.
> 
> My old FAS name was ribeiro
> The new one is athoscr
> 
> nb helped me with the migration, approving me from all the other FAS
> groups. I also informed my packager sponsor about the change and gave
> all my packages from the old account to the new one.
> 
> > Is there anything else I should do by now? I may email the Fedora
badges
> guys later to check if I can get the badges 'transfered'. :)
> 
> > I also believe I found a 'bug' in bodhi on the process. I cannot
login
> there anymore:
> 
> 
>   500 Server Error
> 
>   (IntegrityError) duplicate key value violates unique constraint
> > >   "users_email_key" DETAIL: Key (email)=(athoscribe...@gmail.com)
already
> >   exists. 'INSERT INTO users (name, email, show_popups) VALUES
(%(name)s,
> >   %(email)s, %(show_popups)s) RETURNING users.id' {'show_popups':
True,
> >   %'name': u'athoscr', 'email': u'athoscribe...@gmail.com'}
>    '
> 
> Thanks :)
> 
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Re: [Test-Announce] Cancelling 2017-02-06 meetings

[Sylvia]

On Mon, 2017-02-06 at 06:38 -0500, Kamil Paral wrote:
> Hello, we have AdamW on the plane and no QA meeting can be ever complete 
> without AdamW :-) Joking aside, there's only 1 proposed blocker for F26 
> Alpha, so there should be no harm in cancelling both QA and Blocker Review 
> meeting today. If there are any topics you'd like to discuss, please start a 
> thread in the test list.
> 
> Thanks!
> Kamil
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Good. I wasn't sure I would be able to attend. You just solved my
problem! 


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Re: Please provide "Minimal CD" of Fedora

[Sylvia]

Hello everyone,
Well...  some Latin American countries have really bad and unstable
connection so the smaller an ISO is the better for them.I think a
netinstall would be what you're looking for Radka, but I don't know
from where you can download it.

Cheers, Sylvia

On Sun, 2017-02-19 at 13:15 +0100, Radka Janekova wrote:
> Hi,
> Fedora has to offer these:
> Workstation - https://getfedora.org/en/workstation
> Server - https://getfedora.org/en/server
> Cloud - https://getfedora.org/en/cloud
> Atomic - https://getfedora.org/en/atomic/
> Spins - https://spins.fedoraproject.org
> Labs - https://labs.fedoraproject.org
> ARM - https://arm.fedoraproject.org
> 
> Are you sure that it's not in one of the other categories? =)
> I know that ARM has a minimal install, can't see workstation type
> anywhere though.
> 
> > and is very useful for people who have the internt with low-
> bandwidth
> Do you mean like data limit? I doubt that there is anyone with too
> low speed to not download 1GB overnight these days...
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Radka
>   
> 
> 
> Radka Janeková
> radka.ja...@redhat.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Fa Be 
> wrote:
> > Hello, CentOS and Debian provides installation images in four
> > options, but fedora provides two options:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ==
> > 
> > All is for AMD64
> > 
> > ==
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Net install:
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > * CentOS v7 (1611) = 377M
> > 
> > * Debian  v8.7         = 248 MB
> > 
> > * Fedora   v25-1.3   = 464 MB
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Minimal CD (#1/default/GNOME):
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > * CentOS v7 (1611) = 633 MB
> > 
> > * Debian  v8.7         = 630M
> > 
> > * Fedora                  = NOT AVAILABLE
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > Live images (GNOME):
> > 
> > -
> > 
> > * CentOS v7 (1611) = 1.2 GB
> > 
> > * Debian  v8.7         = 1.3G
> > 
> > * Fedora   v25-1.3   = 1.3G
> > 
> > ---
> > 
> > DVD:
> > 
> > ---
> > 
> > * CentOS = YES
> > 
> > * Debian = YES
> > 
> > * Fedora  = NO
> > 
> > =
> > 
> > It will be very beneficial for people if the Fedora project
> > provides the Minimal CD images of Fedora. It can attract more users
> > to Fedora and is very useful for people who have the internt with
> > low-bandwidth. Currently I use Debian due to the lack of Minimal CD
> > of Fedora. Thanks
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Re: F27 System Wide Change: No More Alphas

[Sylvia]

On Thu, 2017-02-23 at 11:46 -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> On 02/23/2017 10:25 AM, Gerald B. Cox
>   wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > There are countless examples in the threads where
> >   people resort to "I'm offended" and "You've violated the Code
> > of
> >   Conduct" to change the subject and deflect the entire
> > thread. 
> 
> The community in this list is very civil: when people get called
>   out on some deviation, they almost always make amends and
> rephrase
>   their argument in a way that allows technical discussion---both
>   when they are criticized for offending and for being overly
>   offended. Disagreeing without being disagreeable, and all that.
>   Please let's keep it that way.
> 
> 
> 
> I am thankful to everyone for getting along, because the world
>   out there is not necessarily all like that. Sorry if it sounds
>   PolyAnna'ish but I felt it needed to be said.
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
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Re: New pastebin service on paste.fedoraproject.org

[Sylvia]

Yes, also notice that there's a lot of empty space to the right.  

On Thu, 2017-02-23 at 12:20 -0600, Keith Keith wrote:
> I only get 21 lines.  I'm know nothing about web page design and even
> less about image editing as you'll see but the attached pic seems
> like what I would do placement wise.  Does it give away too much
> horizontal space for vertical screen users?  Could it detect
> orientation and choose this one for horizontal only?
> 
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Kevin Fenzi 
> wrote:
> > On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 16:47:45 +
> > 
> > Richard Hughes  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > I'm not sure if this is the right mailing list for this issue.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Probibly not. The infrastructure one would be better, but oh well.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Basically, the paste.fedoraproject.org site has been recently
> > changed,
> > 
> > > and it's basically useless for me now. This screenshot shows the
> > 
> > > issue:
> > 
> > > https://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/temp/Screenshot%20from%
> > 202017-02-23%2016-38-52.png
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > My frustration is that with all the beautifully designed CSS and
> > 
> > > padded chrome around everything we can only fit 22 lines of
> > actual
> > 
> > > text on the screen. That's about half of the lines that I can get
> > when
> > 
> > > using http://pastebin.com and a third of what I can get with
> > 
> > > https://paste.opensuse.org.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > So, some of that could be our theme, which is already being
> > discussed
> > 
> > at:
> > 
> > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/5816
> > 
> > You could chime in there and see if things could be made more
> > compact.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Or it could be an upstream issue (yea for having an upstream
> > again!):
> > 
> > Looking at their demo site:
> > 
> > https://demo.modernpaste.com/
> > 
> > it does seem the layout is pretty set. So, perhaps you could ask
> > them
> > 
> > to make things more compact there?
> > 
> > https://github.com/LINKIWI/modern-paste/issues
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The paste URLs from the latter are also
> > 
> > > https://paste.opensuse.org/53391866 (35 chars) compared to
> > 
> > > https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/3epoM9U0i4oKyPlw7Z6nfl5M1UN
> > dIGYhyRLivL9gydE=
> > 
> > > (82 chars)
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > If you use the command line 'fpaste' util it gives you a shortened
> > url.
> > 
> > We have been discussing how to also include that in the web side.
> > 
> > >
> > 
> > > I find myself no longer using paste.fedoraproject.org -- it can't
> > just
> > 
> > > be me being a grumpy old man, can it? Am I holding it wrong?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Well, it's change and everyone dislikes that. I hope we can
> > convince
> > 
> > upstream to make changes that our users (like yourself) wish so
> > it's
> > 
> > nice for everyone.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > kevin
> > 
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Re: Touchpad pointer accel - testers required, scratch build available

[Sylvia]

Hi!
I'm using Wayland.  Is it the same or should I do something different?
Cheers,Sylvia

On Fri, 2017-02-24 at 12:26 +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 06:48:11PM -0600, Keith Keith wrote:
> > I think I sent you some touchpad data before for a Toshiba Tecra
> > M11.  I
> > have xorg-x11-drv-synaptics installed to keep my setup from F24. Do
> > I need
> > to do anything besides get rid of /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-
> > synaptics.conf
> > and restart X to make this work right?
> 
> yeah, that's all that should be needed. You can easily verify by
> running
> xinput list-props "device name" afterwards and checking for the
> "libinput"
> prefix on the properties.
> 
> Cheers,
>    Peter
> 
> > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:35 PM, Peter Hutterer  > -t.net>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > I've been playing with touchpad pointer acceleration in libinput
> > > again and
> > > finally found something I'm happy with. Most notably it has a
> > > wide range of
> > > configurable speed settings, from "tar" to "speed-skating ring".
> > > Please
> > > give
> > > this scratch build a test and let me know how you go:
> > > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=17546245
> > > 
> > > Reminder: after installing you *must* log out of X/Wayland for
> > > the changes
> > > to take effect.
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > >    Peter
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Re: fedorahosted.org sunset is next week!

[Sylvia]

On Tue, 2017-02-21 at 14:48 -0500, John Florian wrote:
> On Tue, 2017-02-21 at 10:22 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > Greetings. 
> > 
> > As noted in: 
> > 
> > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/announce@lists.fedora
> > project.org/message/RLL3LFUPLYMAUKGZ5B3O64XKJXBT24KZ/
> > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/announce@lists.fedora
> > project.org/message/BWSMCGZPPNG3JOCFQ6Z74MIBU7FG3KGB/
> > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-announce@lists.
> > fedoraproject.org/message/BWSMCGZPPNG3JOCFQ6Z74MIBU7FG3KGB/
> > 
> > fedorahosted is getting retired soon (next week!). 
> 
> Hopefully this means Google will catch on.  I've been rather
> frustrated at how often the old fedorahosted is shown in the search
> results up top and how burried the Pagure instance can be.  It's been
> getting better, but perhaps that's only Google learning what *I*
> want.  I've had to get in the habbit of searching for "koji pagure"
> or "lorax pagure".  The latter will probably always require something
> extra because Dr. Seuss is the order of the day it seems.  :-/
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Hi John,

I usually avoid that bias wiping everything but passwords on the web
browser, or using another one.  Searches can be very different using
different browsers, being logged or not and having a clean up or not.
But I agree that Google is annoying showing old results.  It happens to
me a lot.


Cheers,
Sylvia

PS:  Yes, I know it's late but I was moving to a new place so now I'm
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Re: [Test-Announce] Proposal to CANCEL: 2017-03-06 Fedora QA Meeting

[Sylvia]

Hi,

Agree to cancel the meeting. I'm waiting for response about the bug
#1405539 on localisation team, and still have to contact desktop.  I'm
sorry I'm so late but it's been a complicated week the last one,
really.

Cheers,
Sylvia


Am Sonntag, den 05.03.2017, 21:43 -0800 schrieb Adam Williamson:
> Hi folks! I'm proposing we cancel the QA meeting tomorrow. I don't have
> anything significant for the agenda, I think we covered everything
> pretty well last week.
> 
> If you think there is something we need to discuss, please do reply to
> this mail and we can go ahead and schedule the meeting! Thanks.
> 
> Sorry for the late notice, forgot to send this yesterday and I've been
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Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

[Sylvia Sánchez]

Hi,

Sorry for replying so late, I've been off for too long.  Just wanted to
make a comment about this as KDE user...  Kmail and Kontakt in general is a
pain to use and configure. I'm using KDE with Evolution and I know people
who use it with Thunderbird.  I would like to suggest either not to add any
mail/calendar programme at all, or add one that is simpler to use and
configure.
Just my two cents.

Regards,
Silvia


2017-09-09 13:46 GMT+01:00 Neal Gompa :

> On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:28 AM, jack smith 
> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Would you like to consider to provide a less "bloated" KDE spin ? Here
> is the softs I suggest to remove to have a much cleaner base experience :
> >
> > kolourpaint kruler qupzilla ktorrent krusader kgpg krfb kmines kpat
> kmahjongg krdc konversation konqueror akregator kamoso dragon ksshaskpass
> knode kmouth kmousetool dnfdragora k3b jovie kmail kaddressbook korganizer
> telepathy* ktp* kmag kfind knetattach
> >
> > Like every softs, if someone need one that is not in the base install,
> he simply can install it.
> >
>
> No..?
>
> Taking most of those out would make our experience significantly worse
> than the GNOME spin (a.k.a Fedora Workstation).
>
> Not being able to manage GPG (KGPG) , SSH (ksshaskpass), and email
> (KMail) would be pretty painful for most people. KAddressBook and
> KOrganizer are perfectly fine to keep, too, as they are useful things.
>
> I could see us not including Konqueror, as Qupzilla/KDE Falkon is the
> new upcoming KDE browser.
>
> As most of us actually do heavily use IRC, it'd be a shame if we lost
> Konversation on the default install.
>
> Akregator probably could be cut as RSS feeds have become considerably
> less popular and accessible in recent years.
>
> KNode could probably be removed from the default installs, as
> Usenet/NNTP has become a lot less common.
>
> Jovie, KMouth, KMouseTool, and KMag are handy things for accessibility.
>
> Dragon is a perfectly nice video player.
>
> Kamaso is our equivalent to Cheese on GNOME, and there's no reason to cut
> it.
>
> KFind for finding files on the system is kinda important, in my view.
> KNetAttach for accessing network shares, too.
>
> The telepathy stack (telepathy* / ktp*) might be less handy, but I
> know people who do swear by it.
>
> Kolourpaint and and KRuler and handy little things. And KRFB enables
> remote desktop capabilities, which there are plenty of people who
> want. KRDC lets people connect to remote systems, which is equally
> desired.
>
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Re: [Test-Announce] Proposal to cancel: 2017-10-02 Fedora QA Meeting

[Sylvia Sánchez]

Hello,

Agree. I've been off for a long time and I still have to catch up and see
the bugs and what I can test. If it's not urgent, I would prefer to cancel.

Regards,
Silvia


2017-10-02 9:17 GMT+01:00 Kamil Paral :

> Hi, we'll be heavily focusing on F27 Final testing and I don't know about
> any urgent topic to discuss, so I propose we cancel this meeting. If you
> have any topics, please send them to test list and we'll discuss them there.
>
> Thanks,
> Kamil
>
>
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Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

[Sylvia Sánchez]

Hello,

It's not only a pain, it often ends in an unusable system.
About the browsers, I don't like much Konqueror, actually is one of those
programmes I uninstall first if it's around.  What about Chromium instead?
It's like Chrome and it's desktop agnostic so it works well and looks good
in any environment.

Cheers,
Silvia



2017-10-02 12:58 GMT+01:00 Miroslav Suchý :

> Dne 9.9.2017 v 17:47 Gerald B. Cox napsal(a):
> >
> > I believe you are missing the point of defaults which is to provide
> as complete environment as possible out of the box.
>
> I am a user of KDE Spin. And I *never* used this way. I always have been
> using it as a source for LiveImage so I can
> have GUI with KDE (SDDM, Plasma, Kwin) and then install everything else I
> need. It is much better than using official
> sping with Gnome and then removing it (it is a huge pain).
>
> Thou I would leave konqueror on the list as it is always good to have some
> internet browser in the minimal installation.
>
> Mirek
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Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

[Sylvia Sánchez]

Hello Stephen,

So, according to you, this discussion won't change much KDE Spin?
Besides, how do I join a SIG?  Do you have a link by chance?

Regards,
Silvia




2017-10-02 15:16 GMT+01:00 Stephen John Smoogen :

> On 2 October 2017 at 08:45, Sylvia Sánchez  wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > It's not only a pain, it often ends in an unusable system.
> > About the browsers, I don't like much Konqueror, actually is one of those
> > programmes I uninstall first if it's around.  What about Chromium
> instead?
> > It's like Chrome and it's desktop agnostic so it works well and looks
> good
> > in any environment.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Silvia
> >
>
> The way to make changes on the desktop spins is to join the SIG which
> produces the sping and work there. Ways to make it work is find out
> why they have chosen those defaults, what effects your wanted changes
> would have, and do other people feel the same way. Talking about it on
> this list is not going to get any changes or alternative spins (the
> KDE minimal).
>
> A spin can look like a simple thing which is freely made, but it is a
> lot of work which is why SIGs are needed for each one. Coming up with
> what is going to be on it is part of the work because everyone wants
> something different. There is testing the spin, making sure it doesn't
> go over certain size limits, working out problems with icons and
> discoverability, and similar tasks. Every SIG who is doing a spin are
> always needing people who can help on those other items so helping
> there would be a good way to explain why making other changes is
> useful.
>
> >
> >
> > 2017-10-02 12:58 GMT+01:00 Miroslav Suchý :
> >>
> >> Dne 9.9.2017 v 17:47 Gerald B. Cox napsal(a):
> >> >
> >> > I believe you are missing the point of defaults which is to
> provide
> >> > as complete environment as possible out of the box.
> >>
> >> I am a user of KDE Spin. And I *never* used this way. I always have been
> >> using it as a source for LiveImage so I can
> >> have GUI with KDE (SDDM, Plasma, Kwin) and then install everything else
> I
> >> need. It is much better than using official
> >> sping with Gnome and then removing it (it is a huge pain).
> >>
> >> Thou I would leave konqueror on the list as it is always good to have
> some
> >> internet browser in the minimal installation.
> >>
> >> Mirek
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