Fedora rawhide compose report: 20221219.n.0 changes

2022-12-19 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20221218.n.0
NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20221219.n.0

= SUMMARY =
Added images:2
Dropped images:  1
Added packages:  1
Dropped packages:0
Upgraded packages:   48
Downgraded packages: 0

Size of added packages:  41.22 KiB
Size of dropped packages:0 B
Size of upgraded packages:   1.63 GiB
Size of downgraded packages: 0 B

Size change of upgraded packages:   2.07 MiB
Size change of downgraded packages: 0 B

= ADDED IMAGES =
Image: KDE live aarch64
Path: Spins/aarch64/iso/Fedora-KDE-Live-aarch64-Rawhide-20221219.n.0.iso
Image: Kinoite dvd-ostree ppc64le
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Image: Xfce live x86_64
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Package: python-wheel0.37-0.37.1-2.fc38
Summary: A built-package format for Python
RPMs:python-wheel0.37-wheel
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= DROPPED PACKAGES =

= UPGRADED PACKAGES =
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RPMs: SDL_mixer SDL_mixer-devel
Size: 552.80 KiB
Size change:  -1.53 KiB
Changelog:
  * Sun Dec 18 2022 Florian Weimer  - 1.2.12-26
  - C99 compatibility fix


Package:  agenda-1.1.2-10.fc38
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Summary:  A simple, slick, speedy and no-nonsense task manager
RPMs: agenda
Size: 387.14 KiB
Size change:  34 B
Changelog:
  * Mon Dec 19 2022 Benjamin A. Beasley  1.1.2-10
  - Leaf package: remove i686 support


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RPMs: blt blt-devel blt-doc
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Size change:  5.86 KiB
Changelog:
  * Sun Dec 18 2022 Florian Weimer  - 2.4-64.z
  - Port configure script to C99


Package:  c4project-0^20221119git95b2410-1.fc38
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Summary:  Useful CMake scripts
RPMs: c4project
Size: 91.19 KiB
Size change:  165 B
Changelog:
  * Sun Dec 18 2022 Benjamin A. Beasley  
0^20221119git95b2410-1
  - Update to 95b2410e with minor fixes


Package:  clevis-18-15.fc38
Old package:  clevis-18-14.fc38
Summary:  Automated decryption framework
RPMs: clevis clevis-dracut clevis-luks clevis-systemd clevis-udisks2
Size: 509.81 KiB
Size change:  -15.95 KiB
Changelog:
  * Fri Dec 16 2022 Sergio Arroutbi  18-15
  - Backport upstream fixes


Package:  dateutils-0.4.10-2.fc38
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Summary:  Command-line date and time calculation, conversion, and comparison
RPMs: dateutils
Size: 1.37 MiB
Size change:  4.77 KiB
Changelog:
  * Sun Dec 18 2022 Matthew Miller  0.4.10-2
  - Upstream fix for FTBFS related to Singapore timezone change.


Package:  dqlite-1.13.0-1.fc38
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Summary:  Embeddable, replicated and fault tolerant SQL engine
RPMs: dqlite dqlite-devel
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Size change:  36.13 KiB
Changelog:
  * Sun Dec 18 2022 Reto Gantenbein  - 1.13.0-1
  - Update to 1.13.0.


Package:  gap-4.12.2-1.fc38
Old package:  gap-4.12.1-1.fc38
Summary:  Computational discrete algebra
RPMs: gap gap-core gap-devel gap-libs gap-online-help gap-rpm-macros 
gap-vim libgap
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Size change:  16.57 KiB
Changelog:
  * Sun Dec 18 2022 Jerry James  - 4.12.2-1
  - Version 4.12.2
  - Drop upstreamed unused patch


Package:  git-annex-10.20221212-1.fc38
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Summary:  Manage files with git, without checking their contents into git
RPMs: git-annex git-annex-docs
Size: 64.67 MiB
Size change:  95.05 KiB
Changelog:
  * Sun Dec 18 2022 Elliott Sales de Andrade  - 
10.20221212-1
  - https://hackage.haskell.org/package/git-annex-10.20221212/changelog


Package:  glue-schema-2.0.11-16.fc38
Old package:  glue-schema-2.0.11-15.fc37
Summary:  LDAP schema files for the GLUE 1.3 and GLUE 2.0 Schema
RPMs: glue-schema
Dropped RPMs: glue-schema-doc
Size: 33.65 KiB
Size change:  -910.35 KiB
Changelog:
  * Sun Dec 18 2022 Mattias Ellert  - 2.0.11-16
  - New upstream location on github
  - Drop doc sub-package


Package:  hsakmt-1.0.6-27.rocm5.4.1.fc38
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Summary:  AMD HSA thunk library
RPMs: hsakmt hsakmt-devel
Size: 311.67 KiB
Size change:  1.01 KiB
Changelog:
  * Sun Dec 18 2022 Jeremy Newton  - 
1.0.6-27.rocm5.4.1
  - Update to 5.4.1


Package:  jd-1:0.9.0-0.1.beta.D20221218git3f6cf65.fc38
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Summary:  A 2ch browser
RPMs: jd
Size: 5.85 MiB
Size change:  156.36 KiB
Changelog:
  * Sun Dec 18 2022 Mamoru TASAKA  - 
1:0.9.0-0.1.beta.D20221218git3f6cf65
  - 0.9.0 beta


Package

Re: Looking for advice - ffmpeg-free and wf-recorder

2022-12-19 Thread Florian Weimer
* Demi Marie Obenour:

> On 12/17/22 05:31, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
>> On 17/12/2022 06:29, Bob Hepple wrote:
>>> Now that we have ffmpeg-free we have an opportunity to move wf-recorder 
>>> to the mainstream and change the default codec to the non-proprietary 
>>> libopenh264.
>> 
>> You still can't link against openh264 because Fedora can't ship it an 
>> even have in Koji's buildroot, you can only use dlopen().
>
> Could Fedora ship a shim library that exposed the same API and used
> dlopen() internally?

Isn't GStreamer this API, and doesn't Fluendo provide compatible codecs?

Thanks,
Florian
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Re: Looking for advice - ffmpeg-free and wf-recorder

2022-12-19 Thread Neal Gompa
On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 9:33 AM Florian Weimer  wrote:
>
> * Demi Marie Obenour:
>
> > On 12/17/22 05:31, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> >> On 17/12/2022 06:29, Bob Hepple wrote:
> >>> Now that we have ffmpeg-free we have an opportunity to move wf-recorder
> >>> to the mainstream and change the default codec to the non-proprietary
> >>> libopenh264.
> >>
> >> You still can't link against openh264 because Fedora can't ship it an
> >> even have in Koji's buildroot, you can only use dlopen().
> >
> > Could Fedora ship a shim library that exposed the same API and used
> > dlopen() internally?
>
> Isn't GStreamer this API, and doesn't Fluendo provide compatible codecs?
>

Yup. They also apparently also developed a way to use GStreamer with
FFmpeg applications:
https://fluendo.com/en/products/enterprise/fluendo-ffmpeg/

Shame it's not open source and contributed to FFmpeg itself. That'd be
really useful...



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Re: F39 proposal: Replace DNF with DNF5 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-19 Thread Vít Ondruch

Thx for heads up. I assume this is the diff:

https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Changes%2FReplaceDnfWithDnf5&type=revision&diff=663558&oldid=655776


Vít


Dne 16. 12. 22 v 12:11 Jaroslav Mracek napsal(a):

I've rewritten the proposal to make it clear what it is about including 
additional information that were unknown before. I hope that I've addressed 
community suggestions and remove the confusion with original proposal. Please 
feel free to comment the new proposal and discuss the new content of the 
proposal.
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Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-19 Thread Miro Hrončok

The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they
are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure
that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life

Note: If you received this mail directly you (co)maintain one of the affected
packages or a package that depends on one. Please adopt the affected package or
retire your depending package to avoid broken dependencies, otherwise your
package will fail to install and/or build when the affected package gets 
retired.

Request package ownership via the *Take* button in he left column on
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/

Full report available at:
https://churchyard.fedorapeople.org/orphans-2022-12-19.txt
grep it for your FAS username and follow the dependency chain.

For human readable dependency chains,
see https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/
For all orphaned packages,
see https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/orphan

Package  (co)maintainers   Status Change

5minute   orphan   2 weeks ago
CFR   jvanek, orphan   2 weeks ago
CheMPS2   orphan   2 weeks ago
PolicyKit-olpcorphan   3 weeks ago
abiword   chimosky, herrold, huzaifas, 2 weeks ago
  orphan
aboot orphan   2 weeks ago
albatross orphan   3 weeks ago
alleyoop  orphan   3 weeks ago
alure orphan   2 weeks ago
amor  jgrulich, kde-sig, orphan,   3 weeks ago
  rdieter, than
anki  chkr, orphan 2 weeks ago
ansible-collection-google-cloud   infra-sig, orphan1 weeks ago
asn1c orphan   2 weeks ago
backup-managerorphan   3 weeks ago
bbkeysorphan   2 weeks ago
bharati-m17n  orphan   2 weeks ago
bibtex2html   orphan, thofmann 2 weeks ago
biosdevname   lnykryn, msekleta, orphan,   2 weeks ago
  vpavlin
bluecurve-classic-metacity-   gnome-sig, orphan, rstrode   2 weeks ago
theme
bluecurve-gnome-theme gnome-sig, orphan, rstrode   2 weeks ago
bluecurve-gtk-themes  gnome-sig, orphan, rstrode   2 weeks ago
bluecurve-icon-theme  gnome-sig, orphan, rstrode   2 weeks ago
bluecurve-kde-theme   gnome-sig, kkofler, orphan,  2 weeks ago
  rdieter, rstrode, than
bluecurve-metacity-theme  gnome-sig, orphan, rstrode   2 weeks ago
bluecurve-xmms-skin   gnome-sig, orphan, rstrode   2 weeks ago
cairo-clock   orphan   2 weeks ago
code-editor   orphan   3 weeks ago
compton   orphan   3 weeks ago
cups-bjnp orphan   3 weeks ago
curlpporphan   2 weeks ago
devilspie2orphan   0 weeks ago
dmz-cursor-themes company, orphan  3 weeks ago
ejabberd  bowlofeggs, jcline, orphan,  2 weeks ago
  xavierb
erlang-epgsql lkundrak, orphan 3 weeks ago
eurekaorphan   2 weeks ago
fcitx cheeselee, cicku, orphan, pwu,   3 weeks ago
  yanqiyu
fcitx-chewing cheeselee, orphan, yanqiyu   3 weeks ago
fcitx-cloudpinyin cheeselee, orphan, yanqiyu   3 weeks ago
fcitx-configtool  cheeselee, orphan, yanqiyu   3 weeks ago
fcitx-fbterm  cheeselee, orphan, yanqiyu   3 weeks ago
fcitx-hangul  cheeselee, orphan, yanqiyu   3 weeks ago
fcitx-m17ncheeselee, orphan, yanqiyu   3 weeks ago
fcitx-sunpinyin   cheeselee, orphan, yanqiyu   3 weeks ago
fcitx-table-extra cheeselee, orphan, yanqiyu   3 weeks ago
fcitx-table-other cheeselee, orph

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-19 Thread Gwyn Ciesla via devel
I've taken abiword and libgnomeui. As always, co-maintainers welcome.

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Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-19 Thread Artur Frenszek-Iwicki
> eurekaorphan   2 weeks ago

I have a soft spot for classic DOOM, so I took this one.

A.FI.
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Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-19 Thread Gwyn Ciesla via devel




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--- Original Message ---
On Monday, December 19th, 2022 at 9:57 AM, Artur Frenszek-Iwicki 
 wrote:


> > eureka orphan 2 weeks ago
> 

> 

> I have a soft spot for classic DOOM, so I took this one.
> 


Thank you! I missed that, otherwise I would have. ;)

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Re: F39 proposal: Replace DNF with DNF5 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-19 Thread Vít Ondruch
I am still very much against the `dnf5` package name and I have uneasy 
feelings reading (in my words) "`/usr/bin/dnf` symlink will change from 
`/usr/bin/dnf-3` to `/usr/bin/dnf5`". This name change is going to break 
so basic assumption such as `rpm -q dnf`. It won't really work even when 
`rpm -q dnf5` output was `dnf5-6.0.0-1.fc43.noarch`.


Please give Fedora DNF version 5 instead of DNF5. Please reconsider the 
package name, especially when the "Obsolete dnf package by dnf5" is 
still part of the plan. There is still time to update the proposal.


BTW it would also help if you sketched out what is the timeline and 
process to deprecate DNF 4.x.



Vít



Dne 19. 12. 22 v 16:24 Vít Ondruch napsal(a):

Thx for heads up. I assume this is the diff:

https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Changes%2FReplaceDnfWithDnf5&type=revision&diff=663558&oldid=655776 




Vít


Dne 16. 12. 22 v 12:11 Jaroslav Mracek napsal(a):
I've rewritten the proposal to make it clear what it is about 
including additional information that were unknown before. I hope 
that I've addressed community suggestions and remove the confusion 
with original proposal. Please feel free to comment the new proposal 
and discuss the new content of the proposal.

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Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-19 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 4:44 PM Miro Hrončok  wrote:
>
> seahorse-nautilus gnome-sig, orphan, stefw 2 weeks ago

Taken, though I'm wondering if someone from the GNOME SIG wants it (I
wouldn't mind giving it up).
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Re: F39 proposal: Replace DNF with DNF5 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-19 Thread Jaroslav Mracek
> I am still very much against the `dnf5` package name and I have uneasy 
> feelings reading (in my words) "`/usr/bin/dnf` symlink will change from 
> `/usr/bin/dnf-3` to `/usr/bin/dnf5`". This name change is going to break 
> so basic assumption such as `rpm -q dnf`. It won't really work even when 
> `rpm -q dnf5` output was `dnf5-6.0.0-1.fc43.noarch`.
> 
> Please give Fedora DNF version 5 instead of DNF5. Please reconsider the 
> package name, especially when the "Obsolete dnf package by dnf5" is 
> still part of the plan. There is still time to update the proposal.

I am really sorry but I don't see a way how we can ship DNF5 as DNF package. 
The reason is quite simple. We already ship DNF5 in Fedora 38 as DNF5. In 
Fedora 38 we need parallel installability with DNF and we cannot rename DNF as 
something else. I also remember RHEL8 where we ship DNF as YUM. And DNF is very 
similar to YUM - both are Python based tool. Anyway in RHEL9 the same tool is 
shipped as DNF, because it creates a confusion. And I don't want to experience 
the same issue twice. I understand that the name change is always not nice, but 
keeping the same name for a different tool is worse.
 
> BTW it would also help if you sketched out what is the timeline and 
> process to deprecate DNF 4.x.

I have a plan to open a system wide change to remove DNF for Fedora 40.

> 
> 
> Vít
> 
> 
> 
> Dne 19. 12. 22 v 16:24 Vít Ondruch napsal(a):

Best regards

Jaroslav Mracek
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Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-19 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Mon, 2022-12-19 at 16:43 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> golang-github-mitchellh-cli, golang-github-hanwen-fuse

I took these , because they are needed to docker 
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Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-19 Thread Barry
Why is pysvn on the list? I the pysvn maintainer and i am active.
I am also the upstream maintainer.

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Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-19 Thread Ben Cotton
On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 12:36 PM Barry  wrote:
>
> Why is pysvn on the list? I the pysvn maintainer and i am active.
> I am also the upstream maintainer.

The "main admin" is orphan. You should be able to go to
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/pysvn and click the "Take" button
on the left-hand side. (This is an unfortunate side-effect of how
dist-git works).

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Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-19 Thread Barry Scott


> On 19 Dec 2022, at 17:40, Ben Cotton  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 12:36 PM Barry  wrote:
>> 
>> Why is pysvn on the list? I the pysvn maintainer and i am active.
>> I am also the upstream maintainer.
> 
> The "main admin" is orphan. You should be able to go to
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/pysvn and click the "Take" button
> on the left-hand side. (This is an unfortunate side-effect of how
> dist-git works).

Taken and I'm the bugzilla contact as well.

Does "main admin" being "orphan" go away when background processes catch up 
with the changes I just made?

Barry

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Re: Web Assembly on Fedora: interested in a Fedora SIG to work on this?

2022-12-19 Thread Milad Fa
I'm also interested.
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Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-19 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 05:47:52PM +, Barry Scott wrote:
> 
> 
> > On 19 Dec 2022, at 17:40, Ben Cotton  wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 12:36 PM Barry  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Why is pysvn on the list? I the pysvn maintainer and i am active.
> >> I am also the upstream maintainer.
> > 
> > The "main admin" is orphan. You should be able to go to
> > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/pysvn and click the "Take" button
> > on the left-hand side. (This is an unfortunate side-effect of how
> > dist-git works).
> 
> Taken and I'm the bugzilla contact as well.
> 
> Does "main admin" being "orphan" go away when background processes catch up 
> with the changes I just made?

Yes. The existing bugs should be reassigned from orphan to you after a
while. 

kevin


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Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-19 Thread Smith, Stewart via devel

> On Dec 19, 2022, at 7:43 AM, Miro Hrončok  wrote:
> 
> The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they
> are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure
> that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life
> 
> Note: If you received this mail directly you (co)maintain one of the affected
> packages or a package that depends on one. Please adopt the affected package 
> or
> retire your depending package to avoid broken dependencies, otherwise your
> package will fail to install and/or build when the affected package gets 
> retired.
> 
> Request package ownership via the *Take* button in he left column on
> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/


I took a bunch that we still ship in some Amazon Linux version, and may end up 
going through the package retirement process for some of them in Fedora, as 
some of these are probably a few years beyond any upstream activity.

biosdevname
fros
gconf-editor
gtkhtml3
libbonobo
libbonoboui
libcmpiutil
libgnome
libmodman
liboil
libvirt-cim
libvirt-java
maven-scm
openjpeg
python-cov-core
system-storage-manager
tboot
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Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-19 Thread Smith, Stewart via devel

> On Dec 19, 2022, at 7:55 AM, Gwyn Ciesla via devel 
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> 
> I've taken abiword and libgnomeui. As always, co-maintainers welcome.

I grabbed libgnome, happy to co-maintain libgnomeui.
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Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2022-12-19 at 19:45 +, Smith, Stewart via devel wrote:
> > On Dec 19, 2022, at 7:43 AM, Miro Hrončok 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they
> > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know
> > for sure
> > that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper
> > reason:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life
> > 
> > Note: If you received this mail directly you (co)maintain one of
> > the affected
> > packages or a package that depends on one. Please adopt the
> > affected package or
> > retire your depending package to avoid broken dependencies,
> > otherwise your
> > package will fail to install and/or build when the affected package
> > gets retired.
> > 
> > Request package ownership via the *Take* button in he left column
> > on
> > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/
> 
> I took a bunch that we still ship in some Amazon Linux version, and
> may end up going through the package retirement process for some of
> them in Fedora, as some of these are probably a few years beyond any
> upstream activity.
> 
> biosdevname

A few openQA worker hosts in Fedora infra actually still use this. I
guess I can try and update them to use systemd 'predictable' names
instead...
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Polymake soname bump

2022-12-19 Thread Jerry James
I'm going to build polymake 4.8 for Rawhide, which bumps the soname.
I will also rebuild the only library consumer, python-jupymake.  If
all goes well, I will do the same for F37.
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F38 proposal: Pyramid 2.0 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-12-19 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Pyramid2.0

This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive
community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved
by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee.

== Summary ==
Update Pyramid (package `python-pyramid` within Fedora) to latest major version.

== Owner ==
* Name: [[User:mattia| Mattia Verga]]
* Email: mattia.ve...@fedoraproject.org


== Detailed Description ==
Pyramid 2.0 has been available since March 2021. We would like to
update Fedora package (`python-pyramid`) to this new major version
(we're now still shipping 1.10.5).

== Feedback ==


== Benefit to Fedora ==
Provide the latest available version of Pyramid framework instead of
the outdated one we're shipping.

== Scope ==
* Proposal owners:
Pyramid will be rebuilt to 2.0 in a side-tag together with dependent packages.

Affected packages are owned by nirik and abompard and usually
co-maintained by infra-sig. I will contact them and offer me to
rebuild/upgrade affected packages.

Note that rebuilding dependencies is not strictly necessary, but I'll
do to ensure compatibility with Pyramid 2.0.

About bodhi-server, we've been always running tests against pypi
packages, so I do not expect anything to be broken by the update.

* Other developers:
* Release engineering:
* Policies and guidelines: N/A (not needed for this Change)
* Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change)
* Alignment with Objectives:

== Upgrade/compatibility impact ==


== How To Test ==
A COPR repository has been set up to rebuild all dependencies:
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/mattia/Pyramid2/


== User Experience ==
This will not impact end user experience.

== Dependencies ==
* bodhi-server
* python-cornice
* python-pyramid-fas-openid
* python-pyramid-mako <-- needs to be updated to the latest git snapshot
* python-pyramid-tm
* python-pyramid_sawing

== Contingency Plan ==
* Contingency mechanism: (What to do?  Who will do it?) N/A (not a
System Wide Change)
* Contingency deadline: N/A (not a System Wide Change)


== Documentation ==
N/A (not a System Wide Change)

== Release Notes ==


-- 
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F38 proposal: Xfce-4.18 (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2022-12-19 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/xfce-4.18

This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes
process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive
community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved
by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee.

== Summary ==
Xfce 4.18 is a stable release with proven components, provide features
to both new and power users alike. This change proposal is submitted
to sync fedora packages with the latest upstream release.

== Owners ==
* Name: [[User:nonamedotc| Mukundan Ragavan]], [[User:kevin| Kevin Fenzi]]
* Email: nonamed...@fedoraproject.org, ke...@scrye.com


== Current status ==
[[Category:ChangeReadyForWrangler]]
[[Category:SelfContainedChange]]

* Targeted release: [[Releases/38 | Fedora 38 ]]
* Last updated: 
{{REVISIONYEAR}}-{{REVISIONMONTH}}-{{REVISIONDAY2}}
* FESCo issue: 
* Tracker bug: 
* Release notes tracker: 

== Detailed Description ==

This change migrates Xfce desktop environment (DE) to the latest
version provided by upstream developers. This release brings, amongst
others, the following features
* client-side decorations
* fractional scaling
* new status tray plugins
* Streamlined application chooser (i.e. merged "mime type editor" and
"default applications")

Full feature list can be viewed at
[https://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/xfce-announce/2022-December/001208.html]
and [https://www.xfce.org/about/tour418]

== Benefit to Fedora ==

Updating Xfce to 4.18 will provide Fedora Xfce users stable but latest
versions of upstream software. We will also be able to provide timely
bug fixes.

== Scope ==
* Proposal owners:
** Update core xfce packages to 4.18
** Rebuild plugins once core packages are build

* Other developers: N/A (not a System Wide Change)

* Release engineering: [https://pagure.io/releng/issues] (a check of
an impact with Release Engineering is needed) --> 
** List of deliverables: N/A (not a System Wide Change)

* Policies and guidelines: N/A (not a System Wide Change)

* Trademark approval: N/A (not needed for this Change)

== Upgrade/compatibility impact ==



N/A (not a System Wide Change)

== How To Test ==

N/A (not a System Wide Change)

== User Experience ==

* A fresh install should have fully functional Xfce DE
* Upgrade from Fedora 37 or older should be mostly seamless

No special configuration or hardware needed.

== Dependencies ==
N/A (not a System Wide Change)

== Contingency Plan ==

* Contingency mechanism: (What to do?  Who will do it?) N/A (not a
System Wide Change)

* Contingency deadline: N/A (not a System Wide Change)

* Blocks release? N/A (not a System Wide Change)

* Blocks product? N/A (not a System Wide Change)

== Documentation ==
N/A (not a System Wide Change)

== Release Notes ==

Fedora 38 ships with Xfce 4.18.

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Re: Linking problem with ncurses on rawhide, not f37

2022-12-19 Thread Ron Olson
Thanks for doing that, Swift builds correctly on Rawhide now: 
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=95546843

On 16 Dec 2022, at 5:24, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 09:55:11AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> Miroslav, we may have to revert the versioning change if the AS_NEEDED
>> approach does not work.
>
> Ok, I reverted that change, at least until I have more time for
> testing the possible fixes.
>
>>   Linking versioned libncurses against
>> unversioned libtinfo etc. would solve this, but I don't know how it
>> would to get to this point.
>
> I don't know much about ELF. Is it possible to remove versions from
> specific symbols in the symbol table after the libraries are built,
> maybe with some tool like chrpath?
>
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Re: MuseScore 4.0

2022-12-19 Thread Jerry James
On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 3:36 PM Iñaki Ucar  wrote:
> Unfortunately, the playback seems to be broken. The mixer doesn't show
> SoundFonts and there's no audio at all. :(

Yes, my attempt at unbundling fluidsynth seems to be at fault.  Drat.
I may or may not have time to debug this before I disappear for the
rest of the year.  Most likely I'll have to figure it out and try
again next year.  Thanks for trying it.
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Heads-up: rapidyaml 0.5.0, c4core 0.1.11, and jsonnet 0.19.1 coming to Rawhide

2022-12-19 Thread Ben Beasley
In one week (2022-12-26), or slightly later, I plan to complete the 
following updates in a side tag for Rawhide:



• Update c4core to 0.1.11, bumping its .so version[1].

• Rebuild dependent packages c4fs and c4log as maintainer. These and 
rapidyaml are the only packages that depend directly on c4core.


• Update rapidyaml (which depends on c4core, c4fs, and c4log) to 0.5.0, 
which bumps the .so version[2].


• Build jsonnet 0.19.1, which was packaged but never built[3], against 
rapidyaml 0.5.0. This is another incompatible update, but there are no 
dependent packages. I think I can handle this without permissions on the 
jsonnet package, but I might end up needing to coordinate something with 
the maintainers.



– Ben Beasley (FAS music)


[1] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/c4core/pull-request/7

[2] https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/rapidyaml/pull-request/1

[3] 
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/jsonnet/c/89a7a3ead115308cbaa99f732b6174aabb3bdede?branch=rawhide

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Re: Polymake soname bump

2022-12-19 Thread Maxwell G via devel
On Mon Dec 19, 2022 at 14:10 -0700, Jerry James wrote:
> If all goes well, I will do the same for F37.

I don't think this soname bump should happen in a stable release.

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Re: Polymake soname bump

2022-12-19 Thread Jerry James
On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 3:54 PM Maxwell G via devel
 wrote:
> On Mon Dec 19, 2022 at 14:10 -0700, Jerry James wrote:
> > If all goes well, I will do the same for F37.
>
> I don't think this soname bump should happen in a stable release.

Because ... ?  The new version is backwards API compatible (although
not ABI compatible) with the previous version, I'm going to rebuild
the only consumer of the library, and the new version fixes bugs.
What is your objection?
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Re: Polymake soname bump

2022-12-19 Thread Maxwell G via devel
On Mon Dec 19, 2022 at 15:56 -0700, Jerry James wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 3:54 PM Maxwell G via devel
>  wrote:
> > On Mon Dec 19, 2022 at 14:10 -0700, Jerry James wrote:
> > > If all goes well, I will do the same for F37.
> >
> > I don't think this soname bump should happen in a stable release.
>
> Because ... ?  The new version is backwards API compatible (although
> not ABI compatible) with the previous version, I'm going to rebuild
> the only consumer of the library, and the new version fixes bugs.
> What is your objection?

ABI incompatible updates are against the Updates Policy for stable
releases:

> ABI changes in general are very strongly discouraged, they force
> larger update sets on users and they make life difficult for
> third-party packagers.

-- https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Updates_Policy/#stable-releases

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Re: MuseScore 4.0

2022-12-19 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 at 23:17, Jerry James  wrote:
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 3:36 PM Iñaki Ucar  wrote:
> > Unfortunately, the playback seems to be broken. The mixer doesn't show
> > SoundFonts and there's no audio at all. :(
>
> Yes, my attempt at unbundling fluidsynth seems to be at fault.  Drat.
> I may or may not have time to debug this before I disappear for the
> rest of the year.  Most likely I'll have to figure it out and try
> again next year.  Thanks for trying it.

I managed to download the Muse Sounds, and they work. Only the basic
sounds are broken. It seems that they are not loaded. Just in case
this rings any bell.

Other differences I found with respect to the AppImage: the splash
screen doesn't show up in the Copr version, and the "Learn" materials
in the Home tab do not load.

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Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2022-12-19 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Miro Hrončok [19/12/2022 16:43] :
>
> perl-Mail-Procmailorphan   0 weeks ago

Taken.

Emmanuel
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Re: MuseScore 4.0

2022-12-19 Thread Jerry James
On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 4:11 PM Iñaki Ucar  wrote:
> I managed to download the Muse Sounds, and they work. Only the basic
> sounds are broken. It seems that they are not loaded. Just in case
> this rings any bell.

I think I know what the problem is.  How to fix it is another matter...

> Other differences I found with respect to the AppImage: the splash
> screen doesn't show up in the Copr version, and the "Learn" materials
> in the Home tab do not load.

Hmmm, that's interesting.  I'll take a look at both of those, too.
Thanks for the feedback.
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Re: Polymake soname bump

2022-12-19 Thread Jerry James
On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 4:08 PM Maxwell G via devel
 wrote:
> ABI incompatible updates are against the Updates Policy for stable
> releases:
>
> > ABI changes in general are very strongly discouraged, they force
> > larger update sets on users and they make life difficult for
> > third-party packagers.
>
> -- https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Updates_Policy/#stable-releases

They are very strongly discouraged, not forbidden.  In this case, a
"larger update set" will not be forced on any user.  It will be two
packages: polymake itself, and python-jupymake.  As for making life
difficult for 3rd party packagers, there are no consumers of the
polymake library in the package sets of the most popular third party
repositories.  And the new version is backwards API compatible with
the old version, so even if there is some polymake library consumer
out there, all they have to do is rebuild.  (There are quite a few
consumers of the polymake binary, but the command line is also
backwards compatible, so none of them need rebuilding.)

The overriding concern for me is the bugs fixed in the new release.
I'll bet you a nickel that if you find some random polymake users and
ask them if they want this update, they will all say yes.
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Re: Polymake soname bump

2022-12-19 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Maxwell G via devel wrote:
> ABI incompatible updates are against the Updates Policy for stable
> releases:
> 
>> ABI changes in general are very strongly discouraged, they force
>> larger update sets on users and they make life difficult for
>> third-party packagers.
> 
> --
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Updates_Policy/#stable-releases

Bumping the soname of a library with only a handful, or even, as in this 
case, only one single, dependent package(s), as a grouped update together 
with those dependent package(s), is not what I would call an "ABI 
incompatible update".

Of course, the more packages depend on the library, the more you want to 
avoid bumping their ABI in an update.

Kevin Kofler
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