Re: 5tFTW: Fedora 21, 22, and 19, firewall discussion, and holiday break

2014-12-19 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
On Do, 2014-12-18 at 10:43 -0500, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> 
> - Original Message -
> > Hi,
> > 
> > > > On the other hand, if you install something and it starts listening and
> > > > you didn’t know that,
> > > 
> > > If you install something from Fedora and it does that, then it's a bug in
> > > the
> > > application.
> > 
> > No.  It's you solving your problem with gnome-user-share and declaring
> > the fallout somebody elses problem so you can safely ignore it.
> 
> It's in the packaging guidelines that server applications shouldn't 
> auto-start.
> It's not like I'm making this up...

(a) Bugs happen.
(b) There are third party repos.
(c) I might want use+enable the server apps and still have them
reachable in trusted networks only.

> >  I want the guests vnc
> >  display be reachable in my home networks and not reachable in
> >  public networks.  Doing it with the firewall works.
> 
> You found a use for the firewall that's still running.

Yea, right.

And exactly that's why I think firewall setup should be alot simpler
than it is now.  Less zones, better names for them, ability to set them
per network without digging deep into the network config tool.

Problem is gnome takes the opposite direction:  Hide the firewall.

> >  (2) Heck, even the gnome-user-share UI shows that.  Pick "Remote
> >  Login", notice that you can NOT select networks for sharing.
> 
> This isn't gnome-user-share. It's the sharing panel in the control-center. 
> And it's
> not there because I wasn't sure whether changing the status quo for this was
> 1) necessary 2) how to implement it without breaking the setup for 
> administrators if
> the user can choose to enable/disable the SSH server themselves.

I'd suggest to simply use the firewall.  Do you seriously consider to
automatically start/stop ssh as the machine switches networks?  What if
the machine has two active network interfaces with different trust
levels.

> I don't see how keeping the status quo for one (system-wide) service 
> necessarily
>  invalidates the design decisions done for all the other (user-wide) services.

I've picked just one example.  There are alot more system wide services
which are facing the very same problem.  mdns & cups are typical for
desktops.  Developer workstations might run a git server, also all sorts
of server services (http, sql, gluster, ...) for testing purposes.  The
qemu example goes into that category too.

> > Yes, I know why you can't pick networks for ssh.  But this IMO clearly
> > shows that the "just don't listen on untrusted networks" as distro-wide
> > policy isn't going to fly.
> 
> I'll implement that if it's all it takes for you to admit that, yes, it's 
> actually
> going to fly.

Yes, I'd like to see a reasonable approach for system services.  IMHO
that approach is "use the firewall", but you don't wanna go that route.

So, what else can be done when the user switches networks?

(a) start/stop services.  Has the disadvantage that they stop listening
on the loopback device too, and for some (qemu for example) it isn't
a reasonable thing to do.
(b) reconfigure services.  Have fun implementing that for all the server
services fedora has.
(c) teach all those services to listen on dbus & reconfigure themselves.
Have fun implementing that for all the server services fedora has.
(d) run those services in a sandbox, reconfigure the sandbox.  Yea,
might work (don't know enough about sandboxes to say for sure).
(e) something else?

cheers,
  Gerd


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Re: [POC-change] Fedora packages point of contact updates

2014-12-19 Thread Adrien Devresse
Hi,

I would like to take ownership of ccache for both el6 and el5: Any
objection ?

Cheers,
Adrien


Le 15/12/2014 11:01, nob...@fedoraproject.org a écrit :
> Change in package status over the last 168 hours
> 
>
> 36 packages were orphaned
> -
> bash-completion [el6, el5] was orphaned by scop
>  Programmable completion for Bash
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/bash-completion
> ccache [el6, el5] was orphaned by scop
>  C/C++ compiler cache
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/ccache
> colordiff [el6, el5] was orphaned by scop
>  Color terminal highlighter for diff files
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/colordiff
> geronimo-commonj [f21, f19, master, f20] was orphaned by jhernand
>  CommonJ Specification
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/geronimo-commonj
> gnurobbo [f21, f20, master] was orphaned by raphgro
>  Port of an once famous game named Robbo from 1989
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/gnurobbo
> hibernate-validator [f21, f19, master, f20] was orphaned by jhernand
>  Bean Validation 1.1 (JSR 349) Reference Implementation
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/hibernate-validator
> javasqlite [f20, f21, f19, master, el6, epel7, el5] was orphaned by scop
>  SQLite Java Wrapper/JDBC Driver
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/javasqlite
> jboss-annotations-1.1-api [f21, f19, master, f20] was orphaned by jhernand
>  Common Annotations 1.1 API
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/jboss-annotations-1.1-api
> jboss-el-2.2-api [f21, f19, master, f20] was orphaned by jhernand
>  Expression Language 2.2 API
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/jboss-el-2.2-api
> jboss-jaxb-2.2-api [f21, f19, master, f20] was orphaned by jhernand
>  Java Architecture for XML Binding 2.2
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/jboss-jaxb-2.2-api
> jboss-jsf-2.1-api [f21, f19, master, f20] was orphaned by jhernand
>  JavaServer Faces 2.1 API
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/jboss-jsf-2.1-api
> jboss-jstl-1.2-api [f21, f19, master, f20] was orphaned by jhernand
>  JSP Standard Template Library 1.2 API
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> jboss-jts [f19] was orphaned by jhernand
>  Distributed Transaction Manager
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/jboss-jts
> jboss-metadata [f21, f19, master, f20] was orphaned by jhernand
>  JBoss Metadata
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/jboss-metadata
> jboss-rmi-1.0-api [f21, f19, master, f20] was orphaned by jhernand
>  Java Remote Method Invocation 1.0 API
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/jboss-rmi-1.0-api
> jboss-saaj-1.3-api [f21, f19, master, f20] was orphaned by jhernand
>  SOAP with Attachments API for Java 1.3
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/jboss-saaj-1.3-api
> maven-anno-plugin [f21, f19, master, f20] was orphaned by jhernand
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> maven-jaxb2-plugin [f21, f19, master, f20] was orphaned by jhernand
>  Provides the capability to generate java sources from schemas
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/maven-jaxb2-plugin
> mojarra [f21, f19, master, f20] was orphaned by jhernand
>  JSF Reference Implementation
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/mojarra
> pyftpdlib [f21, f19, master, f20] was orphaned by silas
>  Python FTP server library
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/pyftpdlib
> pymongo [el6, el5] was orphaned by silas
>  Python driver for MongoDB
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/pymongo
> python-asyncmongo [master, f21, f19, el6, f20] was orphaned by silas
>  An asynchronous Python MongoDB library
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/python-asyncmongo
> python-gevent [f21, f19, master, f20] was orphaned by silas
>  A coroutine-based Python networking library
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/python-gevent
> python-gflags [f20, f21, f19, master, el6, el5] was orphaned by silas
>  Commandline flags module for Python
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/python-gflags
> python-lockfile [el5] was orphaned by silas
>  A platform-independent file locking module
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/python-lockfile
> python-mox [f20, f21, f19, master, el6, epel7, el5] was orphaned by silas
>  Mock object framework
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/python-mox
> python-redis [f20, f21, f19, master, el6, epel7, el5] was orphaned by silas
>  Python 2 interface to the Redis key-value store
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/python-redis
> python-ssh [f19, f2

Mail bounces: akozu...@redhat.com

2014-12-19 Thread Ralf Corsepius

Hi,

Bugzilla mails addressed at
dnf-ow...@fedoraproject.org rsp. akozu...@redhat.com
seem to bounce.

Shouldn't this be a temporary hickup (To my best knowledge it is not), 
I'd ask those who can do something about it (bugzilla, pkgdb, dnf 
maintainers) please take action.


Thanks,
Ralf



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--- Begin Message ---
commit 1e2260e4910901233c187bfdb5332329488b62ca
Author: Ralf Corsépius 
Date:   Fri Dec 19 10:14:42 2014 +0100

Own %{configdir}/protected.d (RHBZ#1175098).

 dnf.spec |5 -
 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/dnf.spec b/dnf.spec
index 38ca2d0..961e193 100644
--- a/dnf.spec
+++ b/dnf.spec
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
 
 Name:   dnf
 Version:0.6.3
-Release:2%{?dist}
+Release:3%{?dist}
 Summary:Package manager forked from Yum, using libsolv as a dependency 
resolver
 Group:  System Environment/Base
 # For a breakdown of the licensing, see PACKAGE-LICENSING
@@ -139,6 +139,7 @@ popd
 %dir %{confdir}
 %dir %{pluginconfpath}
 %config(noreplace) %{confdir}/dnf.conf
+%dir %{confdir}/protected.d
 %config(noreplace) %{confdir}/protected.d/dnf.conf
 %config(noreplace) %{_sysconfdir}/logrotate.d/%{name}
 %ghost %{_localstatedir}/log/%{name}.log
@@ -193,6 +194,8 @@ popd
 %systemd_postun_with_restart dnf-automatic.timer
 
 %changelog
+* Fri Dec 19 2014 Ralf Corsepius  - 0.6.3-3
+- Own %%{configdir}/protected.d (RHBZ#1175098).
 
 * Mon Dec 8 2014 Jan Silhan  - 0.6.3-2
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Re: Mail bounces: akozu...@redhat.com

2014-12-19 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:44:12AM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Bugzilla mails addressed at
> dnf-ow...@fedoraproject.org rsp. akozu...@redhat.com
> seem to bounce.
> 
> Shouldn't this be a temporary hickup (To my best knowledge it is not), I'd
> ask those who can do something about it (bugzilla, pkgdb, dnf maintainers)
> please take action.

As far as I can see the options are:

a) Contact Ales and ask him to change his email in FAS
b) Remove Ales' ACLs in pkgdb
One not being incompatible with the other, but I think option a would be nice to
do whether or not option b is applied.


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rawhide report: 20141219 changes

2014-12-19 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Fri Dec 19 05:15:03 UTC 2014
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Re: Sponsorship request

2014-12-19 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Vladimir Stackov  wrote:
> Greetings, Fedora developers,
>
> I'm coming to you with one small request:
> I'm asking you for a sponsorship for this review request:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1172525
> I understand that I'm somewhat obsessive but counting on your patience :)
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> King regards,
> Vladimir.

Have you actually found this kind of "pick and choose" deduplication
in your backup software to be effective? I've generally found that the
integral hard-linking across backups of tools like "rsnapshot" to be
much more effective, and if you need to use compressed backups or tape
for archival storage, the stability and long lifespan and tape backup
support of tools like AMANDA to be more reliable than the creation of
Yet Another Incompatible Backup Paradigm(tm) which lacks some of their
features. The need to pick and choose and re-assemble components
among the tarballs is one that's historically prone to errors among
backups.

It's not a moral objection to the approach, but wondering "why is it
needed"? AMANDA already does incremental tarball backups, it can
support encryption, it supports tape drive backup quite effectively,
and it has commercial support available for more complex environments
with the ZMANDA company. And rsnapshot does very effective
de-duplicated full mirrors which can be NFS read-only exported for
clients to recover their own files: this has been invaluable for
allowing users to recover their files without having to provide
sophisticated admin access to the backup syste. So I'm not sure why
you need yet another tool.
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[Base] Base Design WG agenda meeting 19 December 2014 15:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting

2014-12-19 Thread Phil Knirsch

Agenda:
 - Status buildrequires cleanup work (davids & nils!)
 - Docker update / Rocket container check
 - Status rpm mechanisms for multiple config subpackages
 - Status rpm mechanisms for factory reset files
 - Base WG ownership of generic network install images
   (agreed already by most, just want confirmation from the last 
members for acceptance)

 - Happy holidays!
 - Open Floor

Thanks & regards, Phil

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FreeRDP rawhide rebuild

2014-12-19 Thread Simone Caronni
FreeRDP is dropping monolithic builds in the latest release:

https://github.com/FreeRDP/FreeRDP/commit/0313ca3622baec53425b749e65caa202015894de

All these libraries are no longer available.

libfreerdp-cache.so.1.2()(64bit)
libfreerdp-codec.so.1.2()(64bit)
libfreerdp-common.so.1.2.0()(64bit)
libfreerdp-core.so.1.2()(64bit)
libfreerdp-crypto.so.1.2()(64bit)
libfreerdp-gdi.so.1.2()(64bit)
libfreerdp-locale.so.1.2()(64bit)
libfreerdp-primitives.so.1.2()(64bit)
libfreerdp-rail.so.1.2()(64bit)
libfreerdp-utils.so.1.2()(64bit)

I will rebuild Remmina and Guacamole; but a a rebuild of Weston and Vinagre
is required.

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Re: Sponsorship request

2014-12-19 Thread Vladimir Stackov
Greetings,

you should probably read zbackup description (available on
http://zbackup.org/) and perform backup/restore on multiple VM images.

All software that you are talking about (rdiff-backup, rsnapshot, amanda,
backuppc, bacula and tons of homegrown "bash backup systems") does not
provide real deduplication.
All of that symlinks/hardlinks tricks isn't deduplication at all.
We use a 64-bit modified Rabin-Karp rolling hash with sliding window that
performs checking with a single-byte granularity. It was even better than
ZFS deduplication.
Take a try and then we will talk about "Yet Another Incompatible Backup
Paradigm(tm)" that you will probably pronounce as "next-gen backup
paradigm" after you will give a try ;)

Yep, not "first next-gen backup paradigm" but "one of two opensource
next-gen backup software" because all other software that performs
deduplication with sliding window was closed-source proprietary systems.

Thanks!

2014-12-19 16:40 GMT+03:00 Nico Kadel-Garcia :
>
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Vladimir Stackov 
> wrote:
> > Greetings, Fedora developers,
> >
> > I'm coming to you with one small request:
> > I'm asking you for a sponsorship for this review request:
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1172525
> > I understand that I'm somewhat obsessive but counting on your patience :)
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > --
> > King regards,
> > Vladimir.
>
> Have you actually found this kind of "pick and choose" deduplication
> in your backup software to be effective? I've generally found that the
> integral hard-linking across backups of tools like "rsnapshot" to be
> much more effective, and if you need to use compressed backups or tape
> for archival storage, the stability and long lifespan and tape backup
> support of tools like AMANDA to be more reliable than the creation of
> Yet Another Incompatible Backup Paradigm(tm) which lacks some of their
> features. The need to pick and choose and re-assemble components
> among the tarballs is one that's historically prone to errors among
> backups.
>
> It's not a moral objection to the approach, but wondering "why is it
> needed"? AMANDA already does incremental tarball backups, it can
> support encryption, it supports tape drive backup quite effectively,
> and it has commercial support available for more complex environments
> with the ZMANDA company. And rsnapshot does very effective
> de-duplicated full mirrors which can be NFS read-only exported for
> clients to recover their own files: this has been invaluable for
> allowing users to recover their files without having to provide
> sophisticated admin access to the backup syste. So I'm not sure why
> you need yet another tool.
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Re: Sponsorship request

2014-12-19 Thread Vladimir Stackov
In addition to my previous message:

Take a look on ddar vs rdiff-backup comparison:
https://github.com/basak/ddar/wiki/rdiff-backup
Most of those concepts are applicable to zbackup.

2014-12-19 17:30 GMT+03:00 Vladimir Stackov :
>
> Greetings,
>
> you should probably read zbackup description (available on
> http://zbackup.org/) and perform backup/restore on multiple VM images.
>
> All software that you are talking about (rdiff-backup, rsnapshot, amanda,
> backuppc, bacula and tons of homegrown "bash backup systems") does not
> provide real deduplication.
> All of that symlinks/hardlinks tricks isn't deduplication at all.
> We use a 64-bit modified Rabin-Karp rolling hash with sliding window that
> performs checking with a single-byte granularity. It was even better than
> ZFS deduplication.
> Take a try and then we will talk about "Yet Another Incompatible Backup
> Paradigm(tm)" that you will probably pronounce as "next-gen backup
> paradigm" after you will give a try ;)
>
> Yep, not "first next-gen backup paradigm" but "one of two opensource
> next-gen backup software" because all other software that performs
> deduplication with sliding window was closed-source proprietary systems.
>
> Thanks!
>
> 2014-12-19 16:40 GMT+03:00 Nico Kadel-Garcia :
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Vladimir Stackov 
>> wrote:
>> > Greetings, Fedora developers,
>> >
>> > I'm coming to you with one small request:
>> > I'm asking you for a sponsorship for this review request:
>> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1172525
>> > I understand that I'm somewhat obsessive but counting on your patience
>> :)
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > --
>> > King regards,
>> > Vladimir.
>>
>> Have you actually found this kind of "pick and choose" deduplication
>> in your backup software to be effective? I've generally found that the
>> integral hard-linking across backups of tools like "rsnapshot" to be
>> much more effective, and if you need to use compressed backups or tape
>> for archival storage, the stability and long lifespan and tape backup
>> support of tools like AMANDA to be more reliable than the creation of
>> Yet Another Incompatible Backup Paradigm(tm) which lacks some of their
>> features. The need to pick and choose and re-assemble components
>> among the tarballs is one that's historically prone to errors among
>> backups.
>>
>> It's not a moral objection to the approach, but wondering "why is it
>> needed"? AMANDA already does incremental tarball backups, it can
>> support encryption, it supports tape drive backup quite effectively,
>> and it has commercial support available for more complex environments
>> with the ZMANDA company. And rsnapshot does very effective
>> de-duplicated full mirrors which can be NFS read-only exported for
>> clients to recover their own files: this has been invaluable for
>> allowing users to recover their files without having to provide
>> sophisticated admin access to the backup syste. So I'm not sure why
>> you need yet another tool.
>> --
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>> devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
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>
>
>
> --
> Kind regards,
> Vladimir.
>


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Re: kvm: vcpu unhandled rdmsr:

2014-12-19 Thread Paolo Bonzini


On 19/12/2014 16:44, poma wrote:
> Mister Bonzini, what are these errors?

They are harmless.  Typically it means that the VM is trying to access
registers for performance counters or machine check exceptions.

Instead, this:

> [  125.880384] kvm: zapping shadow pages for mmio generation wraparound

should be downgraded to KERN_DEBUG severity.

> [ 4011.896698] kvm: zapping shadow pages for mmio generation wraparound
> [ 4046.744577] kvm [4706]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010112
> [ 4046.815794] kvm [4706]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
> [ 4046.949092] kvm [4706]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010001
> [ 4046.962165] kvm [4706]: vcpu1 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
> 
> Both Fedora 21 x64 host & Fedora 21 x64 guest are hosed, hard reset is must.

It should not be hosed because of the rdmsr.

What processor do you have in the host?  Can you include the output of
"ps | grep qemu"?

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kvm: vcpu unhandled rdmsr:

2014-12-19 Thread poma

Mister Bonzini, what are these errors?

[   15.211466] kvm: Nested Virtualization enabled
[   15.211653] kvm: Nested Paging enabled
[  125.880384] kvm: zapping shadow pages for mmio generation wraparound
[  137.947340] kvm [2188]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010112
[  138.074999] kvm [2188]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[  138.215100] kvm [2188]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010001
[  138.229484] kvm [2188]: vcpu1 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[  208.887308] kvm: zapping shadow pages for mmio generation wraparound
[  247.756864] kvm [2467]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010112
[  247.872103] kvm [2467]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[  248.007530] kvm [2467]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010001
[  248.022243] kvm [2467]: vcpu1 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 2373.089351] kvm: zapping shadow pages for mmio generation wraparound
[ 2378.807097] kvm [3114]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010112
[ 2378.879543] kvm [3114]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 2379.010716] kvm [3114]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010001
[ 2379.023819] kvm [3114]: vcpu1 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 2555.311726] kvm: zapping shadow pages for mmio generation wraparound
[ 2557.884005] kvm [3354]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010112
[ 2557.956526] kvm [3354]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 2558.087764] kvm [3354]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010001
[ 2558.100915] kvm [3354]: vcpu1 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 2571.622172] kvm [3354]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010112
[ 2571.689491] kvm [3354]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 2571.820737] kvm [3354]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010001
[ 2571.833627] kvm [3354]: vcpu1 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 2596.645621] kvm [3354]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010112
[ 2596.711569] kvm [3354]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 2596.842047] kvm [3354]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010001
[ 2596.855041] kvm [3354]: vcpu1 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 2606.305324] kvm [3354]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010112
[ 2606.373913] kvm [3354]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 2606.505235] kvm [3354]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010001
[ 2606.518368] kvm [3354]: vcpu1 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 2646.290948] kvm [3354]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010112
[ 2646.362594] kvm [3354]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 2646.493929] kvm [3354]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010001
[ 2646.507061] kvm [3354]: vcpu1 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 2671.850396] kvm: zapping shadow pages for mmio generation wraparound
[ 2681.818148] kvm: zapping shadow pages for mmio generation wraparound
[ 2683.390247] kvm [3853]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010112
[ 2683.462436] kvm [3853]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 2683.593449] kvm [3853]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010001
[ 2683.606514] kvm [3853]: vcpu1 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 2706.920179] kvm: zapping shadow pages for mmio generation wraparound
[ 2741.850111] kvm [4049]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010112
[ 2741.922049] kvm [4049]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 2742.053190] kvm [4049]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010001
[ 2742.066333] kvm [4049]: vcpu1 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 2914.712545] kvm [4049]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010112
[ 2914.780266] kvm [4049]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 2914.911599] kvm [4049]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010001
[ 2914.924873] kvm [4049]: vcpu1 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 2924.352967] kvm: zapping shadow pages for mmio generation wraparound
[ 2928.710690] kvm [4270]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010112
[ 2928.780477] kvm [4270]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 2928.911702] kvm [4270]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010001
[ 2928.924767] kvm [4270]: vcpu1 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 3035.293310] kvm [4270]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010112
[ 3035.360315] kvm [4270]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 3035.490647] kvm [4270]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010001
[ 3035.503761] kvm [4270]: vcpu1 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 3054.646321] kvm [4270]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010112
[ 3054.714035] kvm [4270]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 3054.844396] kvm [4270]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010001
[ 3054.857537] kvm [4270]: vcpu1 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 3214.655214] kvm [4270]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010112
[ 3214.723057] kvm [4270]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 3214.854429] kvm [4270]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010001
[ 3214.867564] kvm [4270]: vcpu1 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 3232.252017] kvm [4270]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010112
[ 3232.318695] kvm [4270]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 3232.449035] kvm [4270]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010001
[ 3232.462150] kvm [4270]: vcpu1 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 3653.126758] kvm [4270]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010112
[ 3653.195737] kvm [4270]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 3653.326077] kvm [4270]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010001
[ 3653.339204] kvm [4270]: vcpu1 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 3665.730480] kvm [4270]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010112
[ 3665.797924] kvm [4270]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
[ 3665.928272] kvm [

Planned Outage: koji buildsystem - 2014-12-22 20:00 UTC

2014-12-19 Thread Kevin Fenzi
 Planned Outage: koji buildsystem - 2014-12-22 20:00 UTC

 There will be an outage starting at 2014-12-22 20:00 UTC, which will
 last approximately 3 hours.

 To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto
 or run:

 date -d '2014-12-22 20:00 UTC'

 Reason for outage:

 The blade server hosting the koji buildsystem and it's database server
 will be having wiring work as well as firmware upgrades performed. The
 koji hub, it's database and a number of builders will all be down
 during this outage window.

 Affected Services:

 Buildsystem - http://koji.fedoraproject.org/

 Unaffected Services:

 Ask Fedora - http://ask.fedoraproject.org/

 Badges - https://badges.fedoraproject.org/

 BFO - http://boot.fedoraproject.org/

 Blockerbugs - https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/

 Bodhi - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/

 GIT / Source Control - pkgs.fedoraproject.org

 Darkserver - https://darkserver.fedoraproject.org/

 DNS - ns-sb01.fedoraproject.org, ns02.fedoraproject.org,
 ns04.fedoraproject.org, ns05.fedoraproject.org

 Docs - http://docs.fedoraproject.org/

 Elections - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting

 Email system

 Fedmsg busmon - http://apps.fedoraproject.org/busmon

 Fedora Account System - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/

 Fedora Community - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community/

 Fedora Calendar - https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/

 Fedora Hosted - https://fedorahosted.org/

 Fedora OpenID - https://id.fedoraproject.org/

 Fedora People - http://fedorapeople.org/

 Main Website - http://fedoraproject.org/

 Mirror List - https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/

 Mirror Manager - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mirrormanager/

 Package Database - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/

 QA Services

 Secondary Architectures

 Spins - http://spins.fedoraproject.org/

 Start - http://start.fedoraproject.org/

 Torrent - http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/

 Wiki - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/

 Contact Information:

 Ticket Link:

   https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/4628

 Please join #fedora-admin or #fedora-noc on irc.freenode.net or add
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Re: Qwt and QwtPolar for Qt5?

2014-12-19 Thread Rex Dieter
Dave Johansen wrote:

> Should it just be a separate package
> called qwt-qt5 in EPEL 6

yes, +1

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Re: Sponsorship request

2014-12-19 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 12/19/2014 08:38 AM, Vladimir Stackov wrote:
> Greetings, Fedora developers,
> 
> I'm coming to you with one small request:
> I'm asking you for a sponsorship for this review request:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1172525
> I understand that I'm somewhat obsessive but counting on your patience :)

I've taken the review and I will sponsor you.

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Re: Sponsorship request

2014-12-19 Thread Vladimir Stackov
Thank you!

2014-12-20 0:22 GMT+03:00 Mikolaj Izdebski :
>
> On 12/19/2014 08:38 AM, Vladimir Stackov wrote:
> > Greetings, Fedora developers,
> >
> > I'm coming to you with one small request:
> > I'm asking you for a sponsorship for this review request:
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1172525
> > I understand that I'm somewhat obsessive but counting on your patience :)
>
> I've taken the review and I will sponsor you.
>
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Re: kvm: vcpu unhandled rdmsr:

2014-12-19 Thread poma
On 19.12.2014 18:33, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> 
> 
> On 19/12/2014 16:44, poma wrote:
>> Mister Bonzini, what are these errors?
> 
> They are harmless.  Typically it means that the VM is trying to access
> registers for performance counters or machine check exceptions.
> 
> Instead, this:
> 
>> [  125.880384] kvm: zapping shadow pages for mmio generation wraparound
> 
> should be downgraded to KERN_DEBUG severity.
> 
>> [ 4011.896698] kvm: zapping shadow pages for mmio generation wraparound
>> [ 4046.744577] kvm [4706]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010112
>> [ 4046.815794] kvm [4706]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
>> [ 4046.949092] kvm [4706]: vcpu0 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc0010001
>> [ 4046.962165] kvm [4706]: vcpu1 unhandled rdmsr: 0xc001100d
>>
>> Both Fedora 21 x64 host & Fedora 21 x64 guest are hosed, hard reset is must.
> 
> It should not be hosed because of the rdmsr.
> 
> What processor do you have in the host?  Can you include the output of
> "ps | grep qemu"?
> 
> Paolo
> 


Eccola Mister Bonzini, 

$ ps | grep qemu ; echo $?
1
$ ps axu | grep [q]emu ; echo $?
qemu  2347  101  1.6 2951384 63144 ?   Sl   21:33   8:41 
/usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64 -machine accel=kvm -name Fedora21 -S -machine 
pc-i440fx-2.1,accel=kvm,usb=off -cpu 
Opteron_G3,+wdt,+skinit,+ibs,+osvw,+3dnowprefetch,+cr8legacy,+extapic,+cmp_legacy,+3dnow,+3dnowext,+pdpe1gb,+fxsr_opt,+mmxext,+ht,+vme
 -m 2024 -realtime mlock=off -smp 2,sockets=2,cores=1,threads=1 ...
0

/etc/libvirt/qemu/Fedora21.xml
...

  ...
  2
  
hvm
...
  
  



  
  

  
  ...



HOST:
/proc/cpuinfo 
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 16
model   : 4
model name  : AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 955 Processor
stepping: 3
microcode   : 0x1c8
cpu MHz : 800.000
cache size  : 512 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 4
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 4
apicid  : 0
initial apicid  : 0
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 5
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb 
rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid pni 
monitor cx16 popcnt lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a 
misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt hw_pstate npt lbrv svm_lock 
nrip_save vmmcall
bugs: tlb_mmatch apic_c1e fxsave_leak
bogomips: 6400.37
TLB size: 1024 4K pages
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts ttp tm stc 100mhzsteps hwpstate
...

"Phenom" doesn't exist in the /usr/share/libvirt/cpu_map.xml, therefore 
libvirt? chooses probably the closest to specification, 
and it is always Opteron_G3, even if cpu mode='host-passthrough'.
Is this the culprit, dunno, but both systems do have a tendency to "hose".
And this is nothing new, it is ongoing long since.


GUEST:
/proc/cpuinfo 
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 6
model name  : AMD Opteron 23xx (Gen 3 Class Opteron)
stepping: 1
microcode   : 0x165
cpu MHz : 3199.998
cache size  : 512 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 1
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 1
apicid  : 0
initial apicid  : 0
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 5
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb lm 
3dnowext 3dnow rep_good nopl extd_apicid pni cx16 x2apic popcnt hypervisor 
cmp_legacy svm cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw vmmcall
bugs: fxsave_leak
bogomips: 6399.99
TLB size: 1024 4K pages
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:
...


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Re: Mail bounces: akozu...@redhat.com

2014-12-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon  wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:44:12AM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Bugzilla mails addressed at
>> dnf-ow...@fedoraproject.org rsp. akozu...@redhat.com
>> seem to bounce.
>>
>> Shouldn't this be a temporary hickup (To my best knowledge it is not), I'd
>> ask those who can do something about it (bugzilla, pkgdb, dnf maintainers)
>> please take action.
>
> As far as I can see the options are:
>
> a) Contact Ales and ask him to change his email in FAS
> b) Remove Ales' ACLs in pkgdb
> One not being incompatible with the other, but I think option a would be nice 
> to
> do whether or not option b is applied.


Ales Kozumplik  is no longer DNF maintainer, he
handed it off to Jan Šilhan .
http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/09/18/new-dnf-project-leader/




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Re: Mail bounces: akozu...@redhat.com

2014-12-19 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 12/20/2014 02:46 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon  wrote:

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:44:12AM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:

Hi,

Bugzilla mails addressed at
dnf-ow...@fedoraproject.org rsp. akozu...@redhat.com
seem to bounce.

Shouldn't this be a temporary hickup (To my best knowledge it is not), I'd
ask those who can do something about it (bugzilla, pkgdb, dnf maintainers)
please take action.


As far as I can see the options are:

a) Contact Ales and ask him to change his email in FAS
b) Remove Ales' ACLs in pkgdb
One not being incompatible with the other, but I think option a would be nice to
do whether or not option b is applied.



Ales Kozumplik  is no longer DNF maintainer, he
handed it off to Jan Šilhan .
http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/09/18/new-dnf-project-leader/


OK, but then some overseer/RH-manager, bugzilla/pkgdb-maintainer or 
may-be the new package maintainer should reflect this to the pkgdb 
and/or bugzilla. At least until yesterday, dnf-ow...@fedoraproject.org 
seems to have pointed to akoz...@redhat.com ;)


In this context, I also would suggest, RH to consider improving their 
"quitting"/"employee checkout" process to cover pkgdb/bugzilla.


Ralf



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Re: Mail bounces: akozu...@redhat.com

2014-12-19 Thread पराग़
Hi,

On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Ralf Corsepius  wrote:
> On 12/20/2014 02:46 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:44:12AM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:

 Hi,

 Bugzilla mails addressed at
 dnf-ow...@fedoraproject.org rsp. akozu...@redhat.com
 seem to bounce.

 Shouldn't this be a temporary hickup (To my best knowledge it is not),
 I'd
 ask those who can do something about it (bugzilla, pkgdb, dnf
 maintainers)
 please take action.
>>>
>>>
>>> As far as I can see the options are:
>>>
>>> a) Contact Ales and ask him to change his email in FAS
>>> b) Remove Ales' ACLs in pkgdb
>>> One not being incompatible with the other, but I think option a would be
>>> nice to
>>> do whether or not option b is applied.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ales Kozumplik  is no longer DNF maintainer, he
>> handed it off to Jan Šilhan .
>> http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/09/18/new-dnf-project-leader/
>
>
> OK, but then some overseer/RH-manager, bugzilla/pkgdb-maintainer or may-be
> the new package maintainer should reflect this to the pkgdb and/or bugzilla.
> At least until yesterday, dnf-ow...@fedoraproject.org seems to have pointed
> to akoz...@redhat.com ;)
>
> In this context, I also would suggest, RH to consider improving their
> "quitting"/"employee checkout" process to cover pkgdb/bugzilla.

Generally I have seen sometimes when a RH employee quits, his packages
gets re-assigned to some peer or its manager. This can be easily seen
by bugzilla notifications where bugs gets reassigned. When Ales quit,
I thought this bugzilla script will be run (not sure who triggers this
script) but that did not happen.

Regards,
Parag.
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