Re: What are the rules for updating a package?

2012-03-15 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson

On 03/14/2012 07:51 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote:

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY  wrote:

>
>  Red Hat (nee Gluster) is about to release glusterfs-3.2.6. It's a bugfix
>  release. No API/ABI changes (in theory, I haven't done an exhaustive check.)
>
>  In f16 we released 3.2.5. Am I allowed to update it in f16 to 3.2.6?
>
>  In f17alpha we also have 3.2.5. Am I allowed to update that at this point in
>  time or is it too late?

As long as it's OK with the glusterfs maintainer, and there truly is
no ABI/API change, all of these should be fine.


In the end, does this not end up being a judgement call by the 
maintainer even if that involves major numbering update/upgrade?


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Orphaning json due to legal issues in newer versions.

2012-03-15 Thread Aleksandar Kurtakov
According to repoquery nothing depends on this package anymore so I orphaned it 
in rawhide. 
If noone takes it I'll deprecate and remove it in beginnning of April.

Alex

- Original Message -
> From: "Tom Callaway" 
> To: json-ow...@fedoraproject.org, scm-comm...@lists.fedoraproject.org
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:54:49 AM
> Subject: [json] add a clarifying note to the spec file about the legal issues 
> with newer versions of this source
> 
> commit 4cc8674a9a4de2a7e143aa5695004b6013abb75e
> Author: Tom Callaway 
> Date:   Tue Mar 13 22:54:46 2012 -0400
> 
> add a clarifying note to the spec file about the legal issues
> with newer versions of this source
> 
>  json.spec |9 +
>  1 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
> ---
> diff --git a/json.spec b/json.spec
> index 1778124..099d627 100644
> --- a/json.spec
> +++ b/json.spec
> @@ -1,3 +1,12 @@
> +# Note from Fedora Legal!
> +# Please, do not update this package to a newer revision.
> +# Later versions of the "json" upstream source have been relicensed
> +# under an idiotic license containing an unenforceable clause which
> +# makes the whole work non-free. Upstream thinks it is funny that
> their
> +# immature license causes heartburn for serious users, and is not
> willing
> +# to change it, hence, we're stuck here on the version 3 "apache"
> build.
> +# - 2012-03-13 - le...@fedoraproject.org
> +
>  # Copyright (c) 2000-2009, JPackage Project
>  # All rights reserved.
>  #
> 
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Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-15 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson

On 03/13/2012 02:17 PM, James Antill wrote:

On Sat, 2012-03-10 at 18:20 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:

'Course we could go further and rename /etc/httpd ->  /etc/apache (and
rename the package, both matching Debian), which should have been done
a long time ago.

  It used to be like that:

http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/3/html/Reference_Guide/ch-httpd.html#S2-HTTPD-V2-DIFF-RPM

...but upstream explicitly requested that we change it.



Why and why just us?

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Re: Hi I'm Anthony Sasadeusz and I want to help package

2012-03-15 Thread Praveen Kumar
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:11 AM, Anthony Sasadeusz wrote:

> Hi, I want to try to get involved with the open source community. I am a
> junior at University of Maryland Baltimore County studying Computer
> Engineering. My goal is to eventually help out with the JBOSS packaging for
> Googles summer of code and continue to help out the community. I have good
> linux skills and know multiple programming languages. Here is a link to my
> first review request concerning packaging.
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803531
>

Please check out https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=606430

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Re: /etc/default in Fedora

2012-03-15 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 07:44:53AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 03/13/2012 02:17 PM, James Antill wrote:
> >On Sat, 2012-03-10 at 18:20 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> >>'Course we could go further and rename /etc/httpd ->  /etc/apache (and
> >>rename the package, both matching Debian), which should have been done
> >>a long time ago.
> >  It used to be like that:
> >
> >http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/3/html/Reference_Guide/ch-httpd.html#S2-HTTPD-V2-DIFF-RPM
> >
> >...but upstream explicitly requested that we change it.
> >
> 
> Why and why just us?

  Good question, we deviate from upstream default: 
http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/DistrosDefaultLayout

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Re: DHCPv6 *still* broken for F17 alpha

2012-03-15 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2012-03-14, Dan Williams  wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-03-02 at 14:52 +0100, Tore Anderson wrote:
>> * Dan Williams
>> 
>> > 0.9.4 snapshots do not require both methods to complete (with either
>> > success or failure) before saying the machine is connected.  Thus if
>> > IPv4 completes first, NM will say it's connected, and continue IPv6 in
>> > the background.  And vice versa.
>> 
>> That is true, however, if IPv6 completes first, and IPv4 (still running
>> in the background) eventually ends up failing, the *entire connection*
>> will be torn down - including the perfectly working IPv6 connectivity.
>> So the successfully connected state only lasts for about 20 seconds.
>> 
>> A trivial patch that fixes this problem is attached, please apply.
>
> I've gone back and forth on this last week; since it changes the
> default, it would break the case where somebody depends on the current
> behavior, ie that by default IPv4 may not fail.  After this patch is
> applied, a network where IPv6 connectivity is available but broken (or
> where the router sends RAs with private prefixes like fdxx::) and IPv4
> is for some reason also broken, will make NM show "connected" when in
> fact we aren't really.  The new connectivity detection will help that
> somewhat, but we haven't enabled it by default yet for a few reasons.
>
How does fd00::/16 differes from 10.0.0.0/8? Why getting site scope
address in IPv4 is Ok, while getting such address in IPv6 is considered
as failure?

Unfortunatelly companies expect deploying NAT66 (network multihoming
while missing access to BGP).

Also user may expect installation from local mirror or through proxy.

I think you are doing the installer to much smart resulting in crappy
behaviour in special cases.

If you want to check connectivy, let's ping official Fedora mirror.
Present the ping result to user as a hint, but do not prevent him from
proceding.

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[Bug 803003] perl-Tk-Pod-0.9940 is available

2012-03-15 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional
comments should be made in the comments box of this bug.


https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803003

Petr Pisar  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|MODIFIED|CLOSED
 Resolution||RAWHIDE
Last Closed||2012-03-15 06:09:29

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F-17 Branched report: 20120315 changes

2012-03-15 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Thu Mar 15 08:15:03 UTC 2012

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Re: What are the rules for updating a package?

2012-03-15 Thread Jon Ciesla
2012/3/15 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" :
> On 03/14/2012 07:51 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >  Red Hat (nee Gluster) is about to release glusterfs-3.2.6. It's a
>>> > bugfix
>>> >  release. No API/ABI changes (in theory, I haven't done an exhaustive
>>> > check.)
>>> >
>>> >  In f16 we released 3.2.5. Am I allowed to update it in f16 to 3.2.6?
>>> >
>>> >  In f17alpha we also have 3.2.5. Am I allowed to update that at this
>>> > point in
>>> >  time or is it too late?
>>
>> As long as it's OK with the glusterfs maintainer, and there truly is
>> no ABI/API change, all of these should be fine.
>
>
> In the end, does this not end up being a judgement call by the maintainer
> even if that involves major numbering update/upgrade?

In practice, yes, but the guideline is there to help keep things from
changing too radically inside a stable release.  A soname bump, for
example, without perfectly coordinated rebuilds of dependant packages,
could break applications.  Then there are things like file format
changes, config syntax, etc.

-J

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FUDCon Kuala Lumpur travel subsidy requests are now open

2012-03-15 Thread Robyn Bergeron

Greetings,

As you may know, there is a planned APAC FUDCon in Kuala Lumpur coming 
up soon, May 18-20 in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.


https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:KualaLumpur_2012

If you are planning to attend FUDCon Kuala Lumpur and need a travel 
subsidy, the ticketing system is currently open for requests. Requests 
will be accepted through March 27, 2012. Please note that funding 
requests without a ticket will not be considered.  The travel budget is 
limited, and preference will be given to attendees from the APAC region 
who are actively contributing to Fedora, and have detailed their 
participation plans for FUDCon in their subsidy request.


To place a subsidy request, please follow these steps:

1: Pre-register at 
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2: Put an X in the $$$ column
3: Read about the funding request process and place a funding request 
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Re: DHCPv6 *still* broken for F17 alpha

2012-03-15 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 20:47 +0100, Lars Seipel wrote:
> On Wednesday 14 March 2012 13:36:06 Dan Williams wrote:
> > Whether we care enough about this regression (if you want to call it
> > that) versus enabling default IPv6 connectivity I don't know, I tend to
> > think we suck up the regression.
> 
> Please do. The current behaviour of tearing down working IPv6 connections is 
> just painful IMHO.

If the IPv6 method is "ignore" (which is the current default) then NM
shouldn't be touching IPv6 stuff on that interface; kernel-assigned
routes and addresses should be there and untouched by NM.  Is that not
the case?

Dan

> > Next up, since AFAIK fdxx:: is a non-routable private network (like 10/8
> > right?) should NM say that we're only connected to a site-local network
> > here?
> 
> That's probably the best thing to do, in both cases, IPv4 and IPv6. What NM 
> definitely should not do is say that the connection failed while it's 
> perfectly 
> connected to a local network where there is just no link to the internet.
> 
> Thanks,
> Lars


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Re: DHCPv6 *still* broken for F17 alpha

2012-03-15 Thread Dan Williams
On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 10:07 +, Petr Pisar wrote:
> On 2012-03-14, Dan Williams  wrote:
> > On Fri, 2012-03-02 at 14:52 +0100, Tore Anderson wrote:
> >> * Dan Williams
> >> 
> >> > 0.9.4 snapshots do not require both methods to complete (with either
> >> > success or failure) before saying the machine is connected.  Thus if
> >> > IPv4 completes first, NM will say it's connected, and continue IPv6 in
> >> > the background.  And vice versa.
> >> 
> >> That is true, however, if IPv6 completes first, and IPv4 (still running
> >> in the background) eventually ends up failing, the *entire connection*
> >> will be torn down - including the perfectly working IPv6 connectivity.
> >> So the successfully connected state only lasts for about 20 seconds.
> >> 
> >> A trivial patch that fixes this problem is attached, please apply.
> >
> > I've gone back and forth on this last week; since it changes the
> > default, it would break the case where somebody depends on the current
> > behavior, ie that by default IPv4 may not fail.  After this patch is
> > applied, a network where IPv6 connectivity is available but broken (or
> > where the router sends RAs with private prefixes like fdxx::) and IPv4
> > is for some reason also broken, will make NM show "connected" when in
> > fact we aren't really.  The new connectivity detection will help that
> > somewhat, but we haven't enabled it by default yet for a few reasons.
> >
> How does fd00::/16 differes from 10.0.0.0/8? Why getting site scope
> address in IPv4 is Ok, while getting such address in IPv6 is considered
> as failure?
> 
> Unfortunatelly companies expect deploying NAT66 (network multihoming
> while missing access to BGP).
> 
> Also user may expect installation from local mirror or through proxy.
> 
> I think you are doing the installer to much smart resulting in crappy
> behaviour in special cases.
> 
> If you want to check connectivy, let's ping official Fedora mirror.
> Present the ping result to user as a hint, but do not prevent him from
> proceding.

The current connectivity checking code is built-but-inactive in F17, you
can enable it by adding these entries
to /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf:

[connectivity]
uri=http://
interval=120

the URL is expected to return one or both of:

1) an HTTP header named "X-NetworkManager-Status" with the value of
"online"
2) an document body consisting only of the text "NetworkManager is
online" (can be customized by an option in the config file)

This method lets NM (in the future) detect captive portals and will
allow auto-login in those networks.  It's basically what Windows does
for its connectivity detection too.  If we have proxy information, in
the near future we'd use it here as well.  If NM doesn't get the correct
response then for the most part, we can't consider the machine to have
Internet connectivity.  Obviously this can be disabled (by not
specifying a connectivity check URI) for cases where it's known not to
work.

The only effect this checking will have is to change NetworkManager's
state from CONNECTED_GLOBAL to CONNECTED_SITE or CONNECTED_LOCAL.  It
doesn't do anything odd like disconnect and retry some other connection,
which wouldn't make much sense.  It just changes some state which apps
can use to figure out whether they'd connect to say your IRC server or
your email or whatever automatically.

Dan

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Re: Hi I'm Anthony Sasadeusz and I want to help package

2012-03-15 Thread David Malcolm
On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 16:41 -0700, Anthony Sasadeusz wrote:
> Hi, I want to try to get involved with the open source community. I am
> a junior at University of Maryland Baltimore County studying Computer
> Engineering. My goal is to eventually help out with the JBOSS
> packaging for Googles summer of code and continue to help out the
> community. I have good linux skills and know multiple programming
> languages. Here is a link to my first review request concerning
> packaging. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803531

Welcome to Fedora development!

In case you haven't seen it yet, there's a SIG (special-interest-group)
that focuses on Java packaging within Fedora:
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Java
so hopefully that page is of interest.  (I'm not a member of that SIG,
but I know people who are)

Good luck, and have fun!
Dave


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[389-devel] Please review: coverity 12606 Logically dead code

2012-03-15 Thread Noriko Hosoi
The previous fix (commit 325abca7135d06225adf5380d726de60dacda5a4)
for "Ticket #303 - make DNA range requests work with transactions"
introduced this dead code. Since dna_pre_op does not allocate
an entry "e", there is no need to check the flag "free_entry" and
free it.
>From 4e0c70fd1a52d4bc943613bc496751fab2e390c0 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Noriko Hosoi 
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:17:33 -0700
Subject: [PATCH] coverity 12606 Logically dead code

The previous fix (commit 325abca7135d06225adf5380d726de60dacda5a4)
for "Ticket #303 - make DNA range requests work with transactions"
introduced this dead code.  Since dna_pre_op does not allocate
an entry "e", there is no need to check the flag "free_entry" and
free it.
---
 ldap/servers/plugins/dna/dna.c |4 
 1 files changed, 0 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

diff --git a/ldap/servers/plugins/dna/dna.c b/ldap/servers/plugins/dna/dna.c
index c744e0a..ce2486e 100644
--- a/ldap/servers/plugins/dna/dna.c
+++ b/ldap/servers/plugins/dna/dna.c
@@ -3214,7 +3214,6 @@ dna_pre_op(Slapi_PBlock * pb, int modtype)
 char *dn = NULL;
 Slapi_Mods *smods = NULL;
 LDAPMod **mods;
-int free_entry = 0;
 int ret = 0;
 
 slapi_log_error(SLAPI_LOG_TRACE, DNA_PLUGIN_SUBSYSTEM,
@@ -3308,9 +3307,6 @@ dna_pre_op(Slapi_PBlock * pb, int modtype)
 slapi_mods_free(&smods);
 }
 bail:
-if (free_entry && e)
-slapi_entry_free(e);
-
 if (resulting_e)
 slapi_entry_free(resulting_e);
 
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Re: [389-devel] Please review: coverity 12606 Logically dead code

2012-03-15 Thread Mark Reynolds
ack

On 03/15/2012 12:22 PM, Noriko Hosoi wrote:
> The previous fix (commit 325abca7135d06225adf5380d726de60dacda5a4)
> for "Ticket #303 - make DNA range requests work with transactions"
> introduced this dead code. Since dna_pre_op does not allocate
> an entry "e", there is no need to check the flag "free_entry" and
> free it.
>
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[Test-Announce] 2012-03-16 @ 17:00 UTC - F17 Beta Blocker Bug Review #3

2012-03-15 Thread Tim Flink
# F17 Beta Blocker Review meeting #3
# Date: 2012-03-16
# Time: 17:00 UTC [1] (13:00 EDT, 10:00 PDT - note the DST change)
# Location: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net

I'm sure that everyone is struggling to hold back their excitement but
worry not - the next blocker bug review meeting is almost here!

The third F17 beta blocker bug review meeting will be this Friday at
17:00 UTC in #fedora-bugzappers. We'll be running through the beta
blockers and nice-to-haves. An updated list of blocker bugs is
available at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers.

We'll be reviewing the bugs to determine ...

  1. Whether they meet the beta release criteria [1] and should stay
 on the list
  2. Whether they are getting the attention they need

[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Beta_Release_Criteria

For guidance on Blocker and Nice-to-have (NTH) bugs, please refer to
 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process
 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_nth_bug_process 

For the blocker review meeting protocol, see
 - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting

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This "karma" stuff is a pain!

2012-03-15 Thread John Ellson
Can we just generate "karma" from a comment in bugzilla please?  Having 
to find some other weird place to indicate that a fix "works for me" is 
a real pain.


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[Bug 802986] perl-Debug-Client-0.18 is available

2012-03-15 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #1 from Petr Pisar  2012-03-15 12:51:23 EDT ---
Term::ReadLine::Perl >= 1.0303 is needed for tests.

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[Bug 802986] perl-Debug-Client-0.18 is available

2012-03-15 Thread bugzilla
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Petr Pisar  changed:

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Re: This "karma" stuff is a pain!

2012-03-15 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM, John Ellson  wrote:
> Can we just generate "karma" from a comment in bugzilla please?  Having to
> find some other weird place to indicate that a fix "works for me" is a real
> pain.

Typically the link to the Bodhi update is provided in the BZ.  I
imagine tighter integration is non-trivial, but I wouldn't be a the
one to ask.  That would probably be rel-eng, but I'm not positive.

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Re: This "karma" stuff is a pain!

2012-03-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 12:04 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:49 AM, John Ellson  wrote:
> > Can we just generate "karma" from a comment in bugzilla please?  Having to
> > find some other weird place to indicate that a fix "works for me" is a real
> > pain.
> 
> Typically the link to the Bodhi update is provided in the BZ.  I
> imagine tighter integration is non-trivial, but I wouldn't be a the
> one to ask.  That would probably be rel-eng, but I'm not positive.

Luke Macken does Bodhi. It certainly sounds non-trivial to me, for a
start, Bodhi uses FAS and Bugzilla does not.
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Re: This "karma" stuff is a pain!

2012-03-15 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote:
> Luke Macken does Bodhi. It certainly sounds non-trivial to me, for a
> start, Bodhi uses FAS and Bugzilla does not.

It would be trivial if these decisions would be made by a human who is CCed 
on both (i.e. the maintainer of the package) rather than by software.

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Debuginfo package for Python-2.7 on F14 mismatched or (l)user error?

2012-03-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Fedorans,

we are facing a very strange Python segfault in an OLPC build, based
on F14, for XO-1.5 (I know, do you remember _that_ far ago?).

The state of the OS and disk is well known, but we cannot make it
happen at will. So I got my hands on a coredump, installed the exact
same OS (so exact matching disk state as the machine that segfaults,
same rpms, etc), and went for
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StackTraces#Obtaining_a_stack_trace_from_a_core_dump

I've yum-installed the matching -debuginfo packages for python, glibc
and glib (apparently the segfault is calling glib).

Running gdb over the core, it complains: "the .dynamic section for
"/usr/lib/python2.7 is not at the expected address", and suggests a
yum install (of /usr/lib/debug/.build-id/) that fails.

Full error msg from gdb at http://fpaste.org/YqGv/

I can see that some packages have invalid debuginfo subpackages
(http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Debuginfo#Useless_or_incomplete_debuginfo_packages_due_to_packaging_issues)
, but given Python's importance to the Fedora stack, my bet is that
Python's debuginfo is fine, and there's a subtle user error in the
middle...

To be clear -- we don't suspect Python or the Fedora stack. But
something is rotten, and this segfault is the only clue we have.

This problem is fairly important for the OLPC team at this time, help
on this track appreciated.



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Re: Debuginfo package for Python-2.7 on F14 mismatched or (l)user error?

2012-03-15 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:18:16 +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> we are facing a very strange Python segfault in an OLPC build, based
> on F14, for XO-1.5 (I know, do you remember _that_ far ago?).
[...]
> Full error msg from gdb at http://fpaste.org/YqGv/

All those GDB messages mean your system libraries do not match the core file.

Is it a fresh core file from last hours? Is it generated on the same machine
you run GDB on?

F-14 is EOLed, its repositories incl. debuginfos are out of date, I do not
think it matters to spend any time on F-14 at all.


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Re: Debuginfo package for Python-2.7 on F14 mismatched or (l)user error?

2012-03-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Jan Kratochvil
 wrote:
> All those GDB messages mean your system libraries do not match the core file.

Well, that should just not be. The machine that fails, and my machine
have both been installed from the same disk image, which gets written
to disk with a process equivalent to dd.

And both machines pass rpm -Va just fine. So the binaries should, um,
be the same.

> Is it a fresh core file from last hours? Is it generated on the same machine
> you run GDB on?

It is a core from yesterday, on a machine installed from a 'dd' disk
image. The machine that fails is exactly on the opposite side of the
world. dd'ing the same OS image on my machine doesn't trigger the
failure. So there is something funny on the opposite side of the
world.

> F-14 is EOLed, its repositories incl. debuginfos are out of date

Not in this case, at least yum&rpm claim that the debuginfos match.

> think it matters to spend any time on F-14 at all.

As I stated in my earlier email, I don't want anyone to fix F14, I
don't think F14 is to blame.

My questions are simpler:

 - Is python 2.7 debuginfo in F14 known to be good or bad?

 - If it's known to be good, are there any gotchas not documented in
the StackTraces wikipage that could be tripping me up?

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Re: Debuginfo package for Python-2.7 on F14 mismatched or (l)user error?

2012-03-15 Thread John Reiser
On 03/15/2012 01:58 PM, Jan Kratochvil wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:18:16 +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote:
>> we are facing a very strange Python segfault in an OLPC build, based
>> on F14, for XO-1.5 (I know, do you remember _that_ far ago?).
> [...]
>> Full error msg from gdb at http://fpaste.org/YqGv/
> 
> All those GDB messages mean your system libraries do not match the core file.

> 
> F-14 is EOLed, its repositories incl. debuginfos are out of date, I do not
> think it matters to spend any time on F-14 at all.

Yes, F-14 is now 1.4 years old, but the situation should not be that bleak.
In particular, the mirrors should contain _matching_ packages and debuginfo,
and the ordinary install command for a particular debuginfo should succeed.
If not, then perhaps a "by-hand" search for the matching debuginfo will succeed.
Check the build-id "by hand", too.  Search the net for any filename which
contains that string.  Look at several mirrors of F-14 for your CPU 
architecture.

If manual search fails, then get the source, rebuild the offending package
and its debuginfo, install them, re-create the crash, and analyze the new dumps.

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Re: Debuginfo package for Python-2.7 on F14 mismatched or (l)user error?

2012-03-15 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi John,

thanks for the reply - looping back devel@lfo and devel@llo...

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 5:14 PM, John Gilmore  wrote:
> Irreproducible bugs are a real pain.

Indeed --

> Try typing "info files" to gdb and see what sections it sees in the
> core file and in the executable.

I can't make much sense of the output :-/ http://fpaste.org/R457/

> Also, you can run objdump -x on the core file, and on the Python
> library, and compare them to see how well the section listings match
> up.  If the various segments are differently sized, then you clearly
> have the wrong debug symbols.
>
> I also suggest cross-posting to the bug-gdb list, where you'll
> find the GDB developers who know how the separate-debug-symbol stuff
> works.  You might want to make that core file publicly accessible
> in case any other developers want to go digging in it.

I'll hunt those tracks tmw -- you can see the core file, logs from
failing units and more bg info at http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/11698

> Any local Fedora build wizards may know how to find a -debuginfo
> package via its build-id.

Well, yum should find it ;-) -- but the mystifying thing is yum/rpm
seem to have found the right debuginfo file. gdb disagrees. Who's
right?

> You could also try recompiling python2.7 from its package source, with
> debug symbols, ON the machine where you're debugging.  The catch...

Even if it was reproduceable... I can't make _my_ machine barf.
Faraway machines are barfing left and right in mysterious ways, and we
are trying to get remote access, etc.

But even if I get the remote access, I want to run the currently
failing python under gdb, and again we're going to be with mismatched
debuginfos.

> You may have to debug this without symbols.  It looks from your log
> like the program counter and/or stack is off in the weeds.  Did you
> try "bt" to see if any of the stack is accessible?

it doesn't look very useful

Core was generated by `python /usr/bin/sugar-session'.
Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
#0  0xa7183e2e in ?? ()
(gdb) bt
#0  0xa7183e2e in ?? ()
#1  0x08f352d0 in ?? ()
#2  0xa6f0ae57 in ?? ()
#3  0x08cea354 in ?? ()
#4  0xa7771878 in ?? ()
#5  0x in ?? ()


>> "/usr/lib/python2.7 is not at the expected address", and suggests a
>
> btw, you mistyped there; the message is about /usr/bin/python2.7,
> not /usr/lib/python2.7 (which is a directory).

Sorry, you're right. The fpaste url has the actual output at
http://fpaste.org/YqGv/


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F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-15 Thread Gerry Reno
Ok, I don't know what list you want this F17-alpha stuff on but here goes...

I downloaded the F17 alpha DVD and installed it on one of my laptops
today.  I selected Use All Space and Encrypted.  At repos I selected
Installation Repo and Fedora-i386.  Install completed just fine.  Boot
loader installed and then I rebooted.  I created a user account and was
able to login to that user account.  When the GUI appeared I see
Activities on the top left.  I click on Activities and see a vertical
left menu plus a horizontal menu with tabs Windows | Applications.  I
scroll through Applications and start a Terminal.  All I get is a
transparent box with no prompt.  I can see an ibeam pointer so I try
typing text.  Nothing.  So next I try to start Firefox.  All I get is a
blank white box.

Can someone point out what is needed here or do I just file bug reports?


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Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-15 Thread Chris Murphy

On Mar 15, 2012, at 5:20 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
> 
> Can someone point out what is needed here or do I just file bug reports?

I'd suggest installing something more recent, like F17 Beta TC1.
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/17-Beta.TC1/



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Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-15 Thread Gerry Reno
Ok, I'll give that a try.

Thanks.



On 03/15/2012 07:38 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Mar 15, 2012, at 5:20 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
>   
>> Can someone point out what is needed here or do I just file bug reports?
>> 
> I'd suggest installing something more recent, like F17 Beta TC1.
> http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/17-Beta.TC1/
>
>
>
> Chris Murphy
>
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Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-15 Thread Chris Murphy

On Mar 15, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:

> Ok, I'll give that a try.
> 
> Thanks.

I suggest netinst.iso or livecd, and enable all the repos in anaconda, so that 
your installation is current from the first boot.

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Re: DHCPv6 *still* broken for F17 alpha

2012-03-15 Thread Paul Wouters

On Thu, 15 Mar 2012, Dan Williams wrote:


The current connectivity checking code is built-but-inactive in F17, you
can enable it by adding these entries
to /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf:

[connectivity]
uri=http://
interval=120

the URL is expected to return one or both of:

1) an HTTP header named "X-NetworkManager-Status" with the value of
"online"
2) an document body consisting only of the text "NetworkManager is
online" (can be customized by an option in the config file)

This method lets NM (in the future) detect captive portals and will


Note that such a scheme has already been setup for other software at:

http://fedoraproject.org/static/hotspot.txt

It returns "OK" and is guaranteed never to do any redirects, so you can
detect hotspots. dnssec-triggerd will use this but we hope this
functionality will go into NM itself, so that NM can actually run
dnssec-trigger-control commands directly, and incorporate all the gui
elements from dnssec-trigger-panel.

to understand my babbling, yum install dnssec-trigger, start
dnssec-trigger-panel, see "probe", "probe results" and "hotspot mode"

I am looking forward to the day that only dnssec-triggerd (or its
incorporation into NM) will touch /etc/resolv.conf

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Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 17:45 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Mar 15, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
> 
> > Ok, I'll give that a try.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> 
> I suggest netinst.iso or livecd, and enable all the repos in anaconda,
> so that your installation is current from the first boot.

And if you still have trouble, it sounds rather like a graphics driver
issue, so it would help to know your graphics card.
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Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-15 Thread Gerry Reno
Yeah, installed the beta and I'm still having the exact same problem.

Graphics is Geforce FX 5600



On 03/15/2012 09:05 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 17:45 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>   
>> On Mar 15, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Gerry Reno wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> Ok, I'll give that a try.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>   
>> I suggest netinst.iso or livecd, and enable all the repos in anaconda,
>> so that your installation is current from the first boot.
>> 
> And if you still have trouble, it sounds rather like a graphics driver
> issue, so it would help to know your graphics card.
>   

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Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 22:22 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote:
> Yeah, installed the beta and I'm still having the exact same problem.
> 
> Graphics is Geforce FX 5600

Ah. Then that'll be https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=745202 .
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Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-15 Thread Gerry Reno
On 03/15/2012 10:30 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 22:22 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote:
>   
>> Yeah, installed the beta and I'm still having the exact same problem.
>>
>> Graphics is Geforce FX 5600
>> 
> Ah. Then that'll be https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=745202 .
>   

Looks like it.

My screen issues are a little bit different but I think it's the same
underlying problem:  driver issues.


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Re: Debuginfo package for Python-2.7 on F14 mismatched or (l)user error?

2012-03-15 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 22:31:58 +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> Well, that should just not be. The machine that fails, and my machine
> have both been installed from the same disk image, which gets written
> to disk with a process equivalent to dd.
> 
> And both machines pass rpm -Va just fine. So the binaries should, um,
> be the same.
+
> It is a core from yesterday,

There can be difference one of the machines has the files prelink-ed while the
other one does not.  prelink runs nightly (/etc/cron.daily/prelink).  But it
should be already fixed in your GDB version gdb-7.2-52.fc14, it was fixed in
gdb-7.2-45.fc14 by:
[patch] [i386] Fix {,un}prelinked libraries for attach/core-load
http://sourceware.org/ml/gdb-patches/2011-02/msg00630.html
Still I may have missed some case.

If one of the binaries is prelinked and one was not (or vice verse) the
message "is not at the expected address (wrong library or version mismatch?)"
is really printed (more in the mail above) but the backtrace should work OK.

You can try for the experiment:
/etc/sysconfig/prelink:
# Set this to no to disable prelinking altogether
# (if you change this from yes to no prelink -ua
# will be run next night to undo prelinking)
PRELINKING=no
   ^^
If it helps please contact me off-list, with your disk image.  It assumes the
system generating the core file was not prelinked.


That missing file:
Missing separate debuginfo for
Try: yum --disablerepo='*' --enablerepo='*-debuginfo' install 
/usr/lib/debug/.build-id/63/420e48a2edbae61166c708ebd2ff1a5aed1054

is probably for kernel vDSO (as its name is empty), therefore kernel rpm.  One
never knows what the build-id matches to until Darkserver gets deployed,
hopefully for F-17:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Darkserver


Thanks,
Jan
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