Re: How to best debug kernel problems

2011-07-01 Thread David Howells
John Reiser  wrote:

> Does serial console (Documentation/serial-console.txt) work over the
> modem port of a T61?

Isn't the modem port actually a soundcard channel on modern laptops?

David
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Re: [HEADS-UP] replacing report with libreport

2011-07-01 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 17:26:41 -0700, AW (Adam) wrote:

> On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 01:23 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:06:17 +0200, JM (Jiri) wrote:
> > 
> > > >Whats the way forward from here in F15?
> > > >
> > > >gene/
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 1. bumping the version of the report-gtk package should do the trick - I 
> > > already contacted the maintainer and ask him to do - as this seems to 
> > > work for rawhide:
> > > 
> > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=715373#c55
> > 
> > And as pointed out in bz, it still needs a corresponding libreport-gtk
> > update that doesn't have the bad Obs/Prov pair anymore.
> > 
> > > 3. last resort would be asking rel-engs to remove the broken libreport 
> > > from the stable repositories (if it's even possible)
> > 
> > Won't happen, because it is installed on users' machines already, and I 
> > doubt
> > we would like an unknown number of users to fix this mess themselves.
> 
> Well, updates-testing is 'you get to keep both halves' territory.

Adam, Adam, Adam ;) it's this one in "updates":
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreport-2.0.4-1.fc15
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Re: How to best debug kernel problems

2011-07-01 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Stephen John Smoogen  wrote:
> Does turning on kdump and installing debuginfo kernel stuff change
> things in a way that a watchdog oops won't happen?

I doubt the debuginfo package install has anything to do with it, as
that is really only used by things like crash (and maybe perf?).
Enabling kdump does cause some changes though, as the kernel will
reserve a section of memory to put the kdump kernel in.  It's
plausible that your machine is tripping on some memory issues and
enabling kdump is forcing the kernel to not touch that memory at
runtime.  It's something of a long shot but it's plausible.

If you haven't already, try running memtest86+ for a while and see if
it comes back with any errors.

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[Bug 718190] New: perl-Coro-6.0 is available

2011-07-01 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: perl-Coro-6.0 is available

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=718190

   Summary: perl-Coro-6.0 is available
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
  Platform: Unspecified
OS/Version: Unspecified
Status: NEW
  Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
  Severity: unspecified
  Priority: unspecified
 Component: perl-Coro
AssignedTo: ppi...@redhat.com
ReportedBy: upstream-release-monitor...@fedoraproject.org
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Classification: Fedora
  Story Points: ---


Latest upstream release: 6.0
Current version in Fedora Rawhide: 5.372
URL: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Coro/

Please consult the package updates policy before you issue an update to a
stable branch: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy

More information about the service that created this bug can be found at:
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rawhide report: 20110701 changes

2011-07-01 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Fri Jul  1 08:15:33 UTC 2011

Broken deps for x86_64
--
acheck-0.5.1-4.fc15.noarch requires perl(Text::Aspell)
audacious-plugin-xmp-3.3.0-7.fc16.x86_64 requires audacious(plugin-api) 
= 0:19
bibletime-2.8.1-1.fc16.x86_64 requires libclucene.so.0()(64bit)
camcardsync-0.1.1-4.fc15.x86_64 requires libhal.so.1()(64bit)
deskbar-applet-2.32.0-4.fc15.x86_64 requires gnome-python2-applet
deskbar-applet-2.32.0-4.fc15.x86_64 requires libebook-1.2.so.10()(64bit)
deskbar-applet-2.32.0-4.fc15.x86_64 requires libcamel-1.2.so.23()(64bit)
dh-make-0.55-3.fc15.noarch requires debhelper
evolution-rss-0.2.90-21.20110523git.fc16.x86_64 requires 
libebook-1.2.so.10()(64bit)
evolution-rss-0.2.90-21.20110523git.fc16.x86_64 requires 
libcamel-provider-1.2.so.25()(64bit)
evolution-rss-0.2.90-21.20110523git.fc16.x86_64 requires 
libcamel-1.2.so.25()(64bit)
evolution-rss-0.2.90-21.20110523git.fc16.x86_64 requires 
libgnome-desktop-3.so.0()(64bit)
exaile-0.3.2.1-1.fc16.noarch requires hal
fawkes-guis-0.4.2-4.fc16.i686 requires libgraph.so.4
fawkes-guis-0.4.2-4.fc16.i686 requires libcdt.so.4
fawkes-guis-0.4.2-4.fc16.i686 requires libgvc.so.5
fawkes-guis-0.4.2-4.fc16.x86_64 requires libgraph.so.4()(64bit)
fawkes-guis-0.4.2-4.fc16.x86_64 requires libcdt.so.4()(64bit)
fawkes-guis-0.4.2-4.fc16.x86_64 requires libgvc.so.5()(64bit)
fawkes-plugin-player-0.4.2-4.fc16.x86_64 requires 
libgeos-3.2.1.so()(64bit)
file-browser-applet-0.6.6-1.fc15.x86_64 requires 
libpanel-applet-2.so.0()(64bit)
fldigi-3.21.7-1.fc16.x86_64 requires libfltk_images.so.1.1()(64bit)
fldigi-3.21.7-1.fc16.x86_64 requires libfltk.so.1.1()(64bit)
gdb-heap-0.5-5.fc16.x86_64 requires glibc(x86-64) = 0:2.13.90
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ghc-hinotify-0.3.1-9.fc16.i686 requires 
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ghc-hinotify-0.3.1-9.fc16.i686 requires 
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ghc-hinotify-0.3.1-9.fc16.x86_64 requires 
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ghc-hinotify-0.3.1-9.fc16.x86_64 requires 
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ghc-hinotify-0.3.1-9.fc16.x86_64 requires 
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ghc-hinotify-0.3.1-9.fc16.x86_64 requires 
libHSinteger-gmp-0.2.0.3-ghc7.0.2.so()(64bit)
ghc-hinotify-0.3.1-9.fc16.x86_64 requires 
libHSold-locale-1.0.0.2-ghc7.0.2.so()(64bit)
ghc-hinotify-0.3.1-9.fc16.x86_64 requires 
libHSfilepath-1.2.0.0-ghc7.0.2.so()(64bit)
ghc-hinotify-0.3.1-9.fc16.x86_64 requires ghc(base-4.3.1.0) = 
0:c33a1741503ded8a0170884e8a2e4fa2
ghc-hinotify-0.3.1-9.fc16.x86_64 requires 
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ghc-hinotify-0.3.1-9.fc16.x86_64 requires 
libHSarray-0.3.0.2-ghc7.0.2.so()(64bit)
ghc-hinotify-0.3.1-9.fc16.x86_64 requires 
libHSunix-2.4.2.0-ghc7.0.2.so()(64bit)
ghc-hinotify-0.3.1-9.fc16.x86_64 requires 
libHSdirectory-1.1.0.0-ghc7.0.2.so()(64bit)
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= 0:c33a1741503ded8a0170884e8a2e4fa2
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0:c33a1741503ded8a0170884e8a2e4fa2
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gmediaserver-0.13.0-7.fc15.x86_64 requires libthreadutil.so.2()(64bit)
gnome-applet-bubblemon-2.0.15-1.fc13.x86_64 requires 
libpanel-applet-2.so.0()(64bit)
gnome-applet-cpufire-1.6-3.fc14.x86_64 requires 
libpanel-applet-2.so.0()(64bit)
gnome-applet-globalmenu-0.7.9-1.fc15.x86_64 requires 
libpanel-applet-2.so.0()(64bit)
gnome-applet-grandr-0.4.1-2.fc12.x86_64 requires 
libpanel-applet-2.so.0()(64bit)
gnome-applet-sensors-2.2.7-4.fc15.i686 requires libpanel-applet-2.so.0
gn

relro and precompiled headers

2011-07-01 Thread Dan Horák
Hello,

when I'm building Code::Block in rawhide I'm getting into troubles with
the "relro" feature when combined with pre-compiled headers.

with default flags I get:
...
g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  -I/usr/lib64/wx/include/gtk2-unicode-release-2.8
-I/usr/include/wx-2.8 -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_LARGE_FILES -D__WXGTK__
-pthread -I../../src/include -I../../src/sdk/wxscintilla/include
-I../../src/include/scripting/include
-I../../src/include/scripting/sqplus -I../../src/include/mozilla_chardet
-Ulinux -Uunix  -O2 -ffast-math -DCB_AUTOCONF -O2 -g -pipe -Wall
-Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector
--param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wl,-z,relro -m64 -mtune=generic -DCB_PRECOMP
-Winvalid-pch -fPIC -DPIC -fexceptions -o ../../src/include/sdk.h.gch
-xc++-header ./sdk.h
In file included from ./sdk_common.h:40:0,
 from ./sdk_precomp.h:13,
 from ./sdk.h:17:
./prep.h:32:1: warning: identifier ‘nullptr’ will become a keyword in C
++0x [-Wc++0x-compat]
In file included from ./sdk_common.h:40:0,
 from ./sdk_precomp.h:13,
 from ./sdk.h:17:
./prep.h: In member function ‘ID::operator void*() const’:
./prep.h:333:45: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size
[-Wint-to-pointer-cast]
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/4.6.1/../../../../lib64/crt1.o: In
function `_start':
(.text+0x20): undefined reference to `main'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status


and with "relro" removed the headers are pre-compiled as are in F<=15

Is it a bug or feature in g++ or somewhere else?


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nss_db

2011-07-01 Thread Andreas Schwab
glibc now includes libnss_db again, so the nss_db package is no longer
needed from f16 onward.

Andreas.

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Re: Deprecating portreserve

2011-07-01 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 12:09:35AM -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 06:34:35PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > Is that port number exposed to the OS in any way?
> 
> Not that I can recall, which is why it was a horrible design.  IIRC it
> was just the remote IPMI port, but there may have been a few others.

That's borderline criminal. Is there any way to identify that such 
systems have this? Anything in smbios?

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Re: Deprecating portreserve

2011-07-01 Thread seth vidal
On Fri, 2011-07-01 at 00:09 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 06:34:35PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 12:27:47PM -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
> > 
> > > Portreserve is also useful to reserve (not let the OS make use of)
> > > ports that are needed by an embedded management controller that
> > > intercepts delivery of packets to the port and delivers them to the
> > > BMC (e.g. the PowerEdge 1955 BMC).  While we've done away with that
> > > behavior in newer systems, such are still in production use.
> > 
> > Is that port number exposed to the OS in any way?
> 
> Not that I can recall, which is why it was a horrible design.  IIRC it
> was just the remote IPMI port, but there may have been a few others.
> 
> I misremembered [1] the system type, it was the PowerEdge 1855, not
> the newer 1955.  So we did fix that particular bit of pain in newer
> generations.  In that case, it was the IPMI port 623/tcp that was
> snarfing packets.
> 
> [1] 
> http://lists.us.dell.com/pipermail/linux-poweredge/2005-November/023606.html
> 

I had some of the 1850s that had this "feature".

Istr nis binding to 623 and then not working and it utterly mystifying
more than one of us for a while as to why that was happening.

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Re: bootstrap macro

2011-07-01 Thread Iain Arnell
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Petr Pisar  wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 06:08:49PM +0200, Iain Arnell wrote:
>>
>> Interesting though this is, why are we trying to bootstrap the entire
>> rebuild? Perl 5.14 is sufficiently compatible with 5.12 that we can
>> continue to provide perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.12.*) in perl-5.14.1 rpm
>> until the rebuild is (nearly) complete and only need to worry about
>> bootstrapping the arch-specific stuff (a much smaller problem set with
>> no circular deps that affected my rebuild in mock). Once all the
>> arch-specific stuff is rebuilt, all of the noarch packages should just
>> work (except those with real failures due to new features - mostly
>> regex stringification messing up tests).
>>
> The noarch compatibility between 5.12 and 5.14 is almost perfect, but this
> could not be true in future upgrades. Being able to bootstrap perl fully
> automatically is great benefit. E.g we plan converting fractional versions to
> version object strings (due to compatibility with RPM), so bootstrap build is
> wanted prerequisite. (Not mentioning moving packages between distributions or
> testing other crazy ideas like parallel installation of different Perl
> versions). I remember 5.12 rebuild and it was horror because of mixing old and
> new builds. If new Perl is going to be released each year, we need to have
> automated solution that can deal with all (ok. almost all) potential problems
> the Perl rebase can bring.

Sure, full bootstrap rebuild would be nice to have. But wouldn't it be
better to work out the details locally using mock first?

We're now approaching the fourth week of this mass rebuild and still
have at least 700 packages to go The branch/feature freeze is
already less than one month away.


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[Bug 718225] New: bad dependency: fogot epoch

2011-07-01 Thread bugzilla
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Summary: bad dependency: fogot epoch

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=718225

   Summary: bad dependency: fogot epoch
   Product: Fedora
   Version: rawhide
  Platform: Unspecified
OS/Version: Unspecified
Status: NEW
  Severity: unspecified
  Priority: unspecified
 Component: perl-Module-Pluggable
AssignedTo: extras-orp...@fedoraproject.org
ReportedBy: jrei...@bitwagon.com
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CC: extras-orp...@fedoraproject.org,
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Classification: Fedora
  Story Points: ---


Description of problem:


Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):


How reproducible:


Steps to Reproduce:
1.
2.
3.

Actual results:


Expected results:


Additional info:

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[Bug 718225] bad dependency: forgot %{_isa}

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--- Comment #2 from John Reiser  2011-07-01 10:00:59 EDT 
---
Typo: the bugzilla usability problem is bug 519251.

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[Bug 718225] bad dependency: forgot %{_isa}

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John Reiser  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|bad dependency: fogot epoch |bad dependency: forgot
   ||%{_isa}

--- Comment #1 from John Reiser  2011-07-01 09:59:17 EDT 
---
[Sorry, bugzilla usability error:  in Summary results in a Commit! 
(bug 519521, bug 627383)]

Description: "yum update" shows a error in which perl-Module-Pluggable
"Requires: perl = 4:5.12.3-160.fc16" which is missing the %{_isa} and thus
fails because "4:perl-5.12.3-160.fc16.x86_64" is installed.

Version-Release number of selected component:
1:perl-Module-Pluggable-3.90-160.fc16.noarch

How reproducible: every time (3 times so far)

Steps to reproduce:
1. yum update

Actual results:
Error: Package: 1:perl-Module-Pluggable-3.90-160.fc16.noarch (rawhide)
   Requires: perl = 4:5.12.3-160.fc16
   Installed: 4:perl-5.12.4-159.fc15.x86_64 (@updates/15)
   perl = 4:5.12.4-159.fc15
   Available: 4:perl-5.12.3-160.fc16.x86_64 (rawhide)
   perl = 4:5.12.3-160.fc16

Expected results: successful update

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[Bug 718225] bad dependency: forgot %{_isa}

2011-07-01 Thread bugzilla
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--- Comment #3 from John Reiser  2011-07-01 10:02:51 EDT 
---
The same problem exists with:
Error: Package: 1:perl-Pod-Escapes-1.04-160.fc16.noarch (rawhide)
   Requires: perl = 4:5.12.3-160.fc16
   Installed: 4:perl-5.12.4-159.fc15.x86_64 (@updates/15)
   perl = 4:5.12.4-159.fc15
   Available: 4:perl-5.12.3-160.fc16.x86_64 (rawhide)
   perl = 4:5.12.3-160.fc16
Error: Package: 1:perl-Pod-Simple-3.13-160.fc16.noarch (rawhide)
   Requires: perl = 4:5.12.3-160.fc16
   Installed: 4:perl-5.12.4-159.fc15.x86_64 (@updates/15)
   perl = 4:5.12.4-159.fc15
   Available: 4:perl-5.12.3-160.fc16.x86_64 (rawhide)
   perl = 4:5.12.3-160.fc16

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Re: nss_db

2011-07-01 Thread Nalin Dahyabhai
On Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 02:15:21PM +0200, Andreas Schwab wrote:
> glibc now includes libnss_db again, so the nss_db package is no longer
> needed from f16 onward.

Okay, I've updated git, pkgdb, and comps, and filed a ticket with
release engineering to block the builds from the compose.

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[Bug 718225] bad dependency: forgot %{_isa}

2011-07-01 Thread bugzilla
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=718225

Petr Sabata  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||cw...@alumni.drew.edu,
   ||iarn...@gmail.com,
   ||ka...@ucw.cz,
   ||lkund...@v3.sk,
   ||mmasl...@redhat.com,
   ||ppi...@redhat.com,
   ||psab...@redhat.com,
   ||rc040...@freenet.de,
   ||tcall...@redhat.com
  Component|perl-Module-Pluggable   |perl
 AssignedTo|extras-orphan@fedoraproject |mmasl...@redhat.com
   |.org|

--- Comment #4 from Petr Sabata  2011-07-01 10:11:17 EDT ---
Those are 'perl' subpackages.  Correcting the component to 'perl'.

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Re: How to best debug kernel problems

2011-07-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 04:37, Josh Boyer  wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Stephen John Smoogen  
> wrote:
>> Does turning on kdump and installing debuginfo kernel stuff change
>> things in a way that a watchdog oops won't happen?
>
> I doubt the debuginfo package install has anything to do with it, as
> that is really only used by things like crash (and maybe perf?).
> Enabling kdump does cause some changes though, as the kernel will
> reserve a section of memory to put the kdump kernel in.  It's
> plausible that your machine is tripping on some memory issues and
> enabling kdump is forcing the kernel to not touch that memory at
> runtime.  It's something of a long shot but it's plausible.

I am going to try the memtest. The system this morning was incredibly
sluggish with a yum install taking several times longer than in the
past. A reboot of the system this morning had it oops a lot on agetty
versus working.. but it locked up solid so a power reboot was needed
so I couldn't get anything 'saved' from ram. sigh.

Will run memtest86 for the day and see if that gets anything. I had
tested the system earlier on my rawhide experience with the IBM
maintenance tools but they may miss something.


> If you haven't already, try running memtest86+ for a while and see if
> it comes back with any errors.
>
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Re: [HEADS-UP] replacing report with libreport

2011-07-01 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:57 AM, Michael Schwendt  wrote:
> Adam, Adam, Adam ;) it's this one in "updates":
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreport-2.0.4-1.fc15


Is there an open ticket about the report package that needs to be
bumped to get this cleaned up. It seems from the ticket traffic I've
ready you've figured out a minimally disruptive packaging fix for the
report package. Has the report package maintainer(s) weighed in?
Again, not pointing fingers as to who should be doing the work to
clean it up, I'm just trying to figure out where the hold up is in
cleaning this up as expediently as possible.


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Re: How to best debug kernel problems

2011-07-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:44, Stephen John Smoogen  wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 04:37, Josh Boyer  wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Stephen John Smoogen  
>> wrote:
>>> Does turning on kdump and installing debuginfo kernel stuff change
>>> things in a way that a watchdog oops won't happen?
>>
>> I doubt the debuginfo package install has anything to do with it, as
>> that is really only used by things like crash (and maybe perf?).
>> Enabling kdump does cause some changes though, as the kernel will
>> reserve a section of memory to put the kdump kernel in.  It's
>> plausible that your machine is tripping on some memory issues and
>> enabling kdump is forcing the kernel to not touch that memory at
>> runtime.  It's something of a long shot but it's plausible.
>
> I am going to try the memtest. The system this morning was incredibly
> sluggish with a yum install taking several times longer than in the
> past. A reboot of the system this morning had it oops a lot on agetty
> versus working.. but it locked up solid so a power reboot was needed
> so I couldn't get anything 'saved' from ram. sigh.
>
> Will run memtest86 for the day and see if that gets anything. I had
> tested the system earlier on my rawhide experience with the IBM
> maintenance tools but they may miss something.
>

So ran memtest86+ for the morning, and nothing showed up. Rebooted
into 3.0 and it watchdog halted on me in a way that
FN-CNTRL-SHIFT-SYSRQ-B didn't do anything. Power cycling caused it to
reboot into another watchdog issue so I went into single user mode.
There I was able to turn off watchdog resets and exit (this was not
meant to be a solution as much to see what would be causing stuff).

What seems to happen is I get slower and slower accesses of some sort
to disks. [Sorry for the wishy-washy wording I need to figure out how
to better debug this for you guys.] System came up and I logged in
after 5 minutes. Doing a yum update took about 4 seconds to get to the
(y/N) part and then afterwords sat there and then did a long set of
disk accesses. Doing it again took even longer with long pauses. My
guess is something is sitting in the CPU and the watchdog saw nothing
happening for 10 seconds and whacked. On the third time the system
just sat there and never returned (keyboard doesn't seem to allow for
a reset so I don't know what is going on.)

At the moment, the system is usable with the 2.6.38 from Fedora-15
(though systemd will not allow a reboot due to constantly trying to
restart systemd-kmsg something) Will look into getting a modem null
cable though I may just go for a picture of the watchdog issue.


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