HEADS UP : mysql++ version 3.1.0 - ABI broken without soname bump

2010-06-20 Thread Remi Collet
Hi,

I've just build latest version of mysql++ in rawhide.
This version breaks ABI.

Report:
http://blog.famillecollet.com/public/reports/mysql__-3.0.9-3.1.0.html

Reported upstream:
http://lists.mysql.com/plusplus/8973

Of course, no update to fedora /EPEL stable repo planned.

At least "sems" need a rebuild.

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Re: gethostbyname() and resolv.conf updates

2010-06-20 Thread Nicolas Chauvet
2010/6/17 Bernie Innocenti :
> Hello,
>
> xchat in Fedora needs to be restarted after switching to a different
> nameserver or it fails to resolve.
>
> The xchat developers say that all xchat does is call gethostbyname(). A
There was a topic 3 years ago  about replacing gethostby* functions by
getaddrinfo
Is this still relevant?

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2007-October/112483.html
http://udrepper.livejournal.com/16116.html

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Re: HEADS UP : mysql++ version 3.1.0 - ABI broken without soname bump

2010-06-20 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2010/6/20 Remi Collet :
> Hi,
>
> I've just build latest version of mysql++ in rawhide.
> This version breaks ABI.

Thanks for the notice! I'll take care of SEMS rebuild.



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Re: To construct a Zope skyscraper on Fedora

2010-06-20 Thread Robin 'cheese' Lee
On 06/20/2010 12:31 AM, Chen Lei wrote:
> 2010/6/20 Rakesh Pandit:
>
>> Thanks for clarification. I will see whether I can help with some
>> dependencies and zope3 part (review as well).
>>
>> --
>> --
>>  
> The original zope/plone in Fedora/EPEL bundles dozens of third party
> python modules, nearly all of those modules need review if we want to
> revive long retired zope and plone in the cvs.  It will be much easier
> if we have an atuomatic spec generation tool like cpan2spec, it's
> entirely possible to write a such tool for python modules that using
> setuptools in setup.py.
>
> Chen Lei
>
The spec file for each  per-module package I just created is generated 
through a little and nasty script which converts spec files generated by 
setuptools to ones complying with Fedora standards. (The script is too 
nasty to open its source.)

A better solution is to hack setuptools, and/or distutils, itself to 
generate standard-complying spec files directly. But this may take some 
time.

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Re: To construct a Zope skyscraper on Fedora

2010-06-20 Thread Robin 'cheese' Lee
On 06/20/2010 12:02 AM, Rakesh Pandit wrote:
> On 19 June 2010 19:31, Robin 'cheese' Lee wrote:
>
>> On 06/19/2010 09:21 PM, Rakesh Pandit wrote:
>>  
> [..]
>
>> In rpmfusion, Zope is an out-dated version, 2.10.x, which works with
>> Python 2.4 only.
>>
>> My package here is the latest version of Zope, 2.12.7, which works with
>> Python 2.6, and so no compat-python needed.
>>
>> x86_64 builds may come in next week.
>>
>>  
> Thanks for nice work.
>
>
>> And it should be easy to rebuild binary packages from the srpms. All the
>> packages can be compiled with just python2-devel, python-setuptools and
>> python-sphinx installed.
>>  
> [..]
>
> Thanks for clarification. I will see whether I can help with some
> dependencies and zope3 part (review as well).
>
>
You're welcome.

So we may start a Zope SIG.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Zope
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Re: Ownership of DMitry

2010-06-20 Thread ianrichardba...@gmail.com
Thanks for taking the time to clarify the procedure.

It's nice to find a friendly list!

Thanks.


Ian

- Reply message -
From: "Rakesh Pandit" 
Date: Sun, Jun 20, 2010 05:42
Subject: Ownership of DMitry
To: "ianrichardba...@gmail.com" 
Cc: "Development discussions related to Fedora" 


On 20 June 2010 10:10, Rakesh Pandit wrote:
[..]
>
> In case this package has not been update since last 3 months you can
> resubmit it for review. But if it has been updated recently (in last 3
> months) you will have to get sponsored first and then later claim it
> (or ask for co-maintainership in case it is already taken by someone
> during that period).
>

In both cases pre-condition is you will need to get sponsorship.

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Re: New Hatari version: need help

2010-06-20 Thread Andrea Musuruane
2010/6/19 Alexander Boström :
> lör 2010-06-19 klockan 19:32 +0200 skrev Andrea Musuruane:
>
>> I do not know how should I threat those internal libraries. How should
>> I package them? Because upstream uses static libraries the dynamic
>> versions cmake creates are not versioned.
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Rpath_for_Internal_Libraries

I fail to see how this is relevant. Hatari do not use Rpath.

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Re: New Hatari version: need help

2010-06-20 Thread Andrea Musuruane
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Chen Lei  wrote:
> You can open a RFE report against this package in bugzilla for review.

Can you point me to an example?

> For internal libs, if those libs are not libs from other project, you
> can simply use %cmake  -DBUILD_SHARED_LIBS:BOOL=OFF to avoid
> generation of those shlibs. Default place for python ui don't need
> change.

Internal libs are made by Hatari developers and therefore they haven't
a different upstream.

Thanks!

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Re: New Hatari version: need help

2010-06-20 Thread Dan Horák
Andrea Musuruane píše v Ne 20. 06. 2010 v 11:25 +0200: 
> 2010/6/19 Alexander Boström :
> > lör 2010-06-19 klockan 19:32 +0200 skrev Andrea Musuruane:
> >
> >> I do not know how should I threat those internal libraries. How should
> >> I package them? Because upstream uses static libraries the dynamic
> >> versions cmake creates are not versioned.
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines#Rpath_for_Internal_Libraries
> 
> I fail to see how this is relevant. Hatari do not use Rpath.

hatari could use %{_libdir}/hatari with a rpath set for the internal
parts built as shared libraries. The easiest way is to disable building
shared libs when calling cmake as suggested earlier.


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Re: To construct a Zope skyscraper on Fedora

2010-06-20 Thread Robin 'cheese' Lee
On 06/20/2010 12:45 PM, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
> On 06/20/2010 12:22 AM, Jonathan Steffan wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 21:08 +0800, Robin 'cheese' Lee wrote:
>>  
>>> The 'zope' package itself is most kept under the same conventions of the
>>> legacy 2.10.x 'zope' package.
>>>
>> We have a unique opportunity to address many of the failings of the
>> current zope namespace. We should get anyone interested (and willing to
>> do the work) into a meeting soon. Every time I go back to building up
>> zope again I run out of steam and end up just being frustrated. I
>> foresee issues with splitting out every module in this stack but it just
>> needs to be discussed. The current package layout is far from optimal
>> and it's not the best idea to ship a default standalone instance with
>> the package. Shipping standalone/zeo instance configs/etc. in
>> subpackages is a far better idea. I've never been able to address this
>> as there is just about no upgrade path (that I've been able to design)
>> that would allow for a safe re-layout of the current package.
>>
>> We should consider the current "zope" namespace dead and start from
>> scratch. It's far too complex of an application to be able to have
>> everything in one namespace (speaking to zope2 vs zope3.) I've only
>> briefly looked into all of the specs you've worked on and already can
>> see we are going to run into issues with cross-product dependencies. I
>> could be convinced that the "zope" namespace should be the latest 2.x
>> and then address the need for zope 3 in the zope3 namespace. However,
>> how do we distinguish a module built for zope 2 vs zope 3? This, again,
>> could be solved but will need discussion.
>>
>> With zope 2.12 supporting py2.6, I think we might actually have a shot
>> at making this work. However, immediately off the bat if we stick 2.12.x
>> into "zope" what happens to grok? What packages are going to break? Too
>> many things need zope 2.x so updating the "zope" namespace to zope 3
>> would break a lot of good software. What happens to plone? Do we just
>> ditch Plone 3 and only support Plone 4?[2]
>>
>> We could also modularize everything and have things like "zope",
>> "plone", "grok" and "zenoss" have dependencies based on their release
>> recipes. There are a lot of common modules in these projects, but they
>> all have their own specific version requirements. This would be a lot of
>> work and could potentially cause us to package ourselves into a corner
>> where we are having to do absolute requires or just end up with broken
>> software when absolute requirements are not properly documented.
>>
>> I really look forward to others being involved with this. Count me in
>> for the SIG.[2]
>>
>> - Jonathan Steffan
>>
>> [1] http://plone.org/documentation/faq/plone-versions
>> [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Zope
>>  
> I agree, we've got lots to talk about.  The most important things are:
> 1. Packaging guidelines
> 2. Component upgrade guidelines
> 3. Namespace issues (addressed above)
> 4. Zope 2 vs Zope 3 (again, addressed above)
>
Zope 3 seems no more going, and a new project named BlueBream[1][2] 
replacing it is being developed.

There are also other blueprint-like and amazing projects[3][4] being 
worked on in the Zope world.

But after all, the most productive and widely used is still Zope 2 which 
should gets higher priority.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlueBream
[2] https://launchpad.net/bluebream
[2] http://codespeak.net/z3/five/
[3] http://repoze.org/

> I think we should talk sooner rather than later.  Anyone want to setup a
> meeting time?
>
> Just an FYI, it is my current plan (probably because I am completely
> ignorant as to how much pain this will cause) is to simply package the
> latest version of all Zenoss dependencies and then work through whatever
> bugs I find.  I'm in a somewhat unique situation though in that I have
> the ability to commit to upstream.  This may be a less than ideal plan
> for other applications.
>
> As I mentioned to Jonathan on IRC, I think the best plan is to try to
> get something working'ish as soon as possible and then try to shakedown
> the details from there.  If we bog ourselves down in policy (an easy
> quagmire to get stuck in when in zopeland) we may get too discouraged to
> continue.  Not to dismiss what will be the very needed policy, I just
> want to make sure no-one gets burned out.
>
I agree with this. And so I packaged a working Zope2 before speaking 
anything publicly.
> One thing we may want to consider is a "tenant" policy.  That is, the
> zope stack as a whole has "tenants" (Zenoss, Plone, etc).  The tenants
> would be formally defined and any upgrade to any component in the
> platform would require signoff from all the tenants who depend on that
> component (or some derivation thereof).  I suspect that the short-term
> trade-off of buildouts/bundling is not as valuable as the long-term
> value of testing a softwar

Re: To construct a Zope skyscraper on Fedora

2010-06-20 Thread Robin 'cheese' Lee
On 06/20/2010 12:22 PM, Jonathan Steffan wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 21:08 +0800, Robin 'cheese' Lee wrote:
>
>> The 'zope' package itself is most kept under the same conventions of the
>> legacy 2.10.x 'zope' package.
>>  
> With zope 2.12 supporting py2.6, I think we might actually have a shot
> at making this work. However, immediately off the bat if we stick 2.12.x
> into "zope" what happens to grok? What packages are going to break? Too
> many things need zope 2.x so updating the "zope" namespace to zope 3
> would break a lot of good software. What happens to plone? Do we just
> ditch Plone 3 and only support Plone 4?[2]
>
This is really worrying.

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Update on packages violating the Static Library guidelines

2010-06-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
* 19 packages fixed since May 21st. Tom Callaway has done almost all of
  the work.

* 2 packages left to be fixed. 

* "gcc" has returned due to another static library in its packages,
  and no news on "binutils-devel". It still enforces static linkage by
  using ld scripts.
  The following source rpms don't "BuildRequires: binutils-static" but
  binutils-devel:

alleyoop-0:0.9.7-1.fc13.src
avarice-0:2.10-1.fc13.src
CodeAnalyst-gui-0:2.8.54-21.fc13.src
kernel-0:2.6.34-43.fc14.src
ksplice-0:0.9.9-1.fc12.src
latrace-0:0.5.7-1.fc12.src
libdwarf-0:0.20090324-5.fc12.src
lush-0:1.2.1-6.fc12.src
mutrace-0:0.2-1.fc13.src
sblim-wbemcli-0:1.6.0-5.fc12.src
stapitrace-0:2.0.0-0.20090304cvs_alpha.fc12.1.src
sysprof-0:1.1.6-1.fc14.src

* Bugzilla status for packages violating the Static Library guidelines:
  http://mschwendt.fedorapeople.org/staticbugstat.html

acl 556036 -> CLOSED
atlas   556037 -> CLOSED
attr556038 -> CLOSED
audit   556039 -> CLOSED
binutils556040
brltty  556041 -> CLOSED
Canna   556034 -> CLOSED
cdparanoia  547682 -> CLOSED
comedilib   556043 -> CLOSED
dnssec-tools556044 -> CLOSED
e2fsprogs   545144 -> CLOSED
expat   556046 -> CLOSED
fftw2   556047 -> CLOSED
file556048 -> CLOSED
gcc 556049
gdbm556050 -> CLOSED
ghostscript 556051 -> CLOSED
gnutls  556052 -> CLOSED
gpsim   556053 -> CLOSED
gtk+extra   556054 -> CLOSED
hpic556055 -> CLOSED
isdn4k-utils556056 -> CLOSED
js  556057 -> CLOSED
ldns556058 -> CLOSED
libaio  556059 -> CLOSED
libannodex  556060 -> CLOSED
libbtctl556061 -> CLOSED
libcaca 556062 -> CLOSED
libcddb 556063 -> CLOSED
libcdio 556064 -> CLOSED
libcmml 556065 -> CLOSED
libdnet 556066 -> CLOSED
libevent556067 -> CLOSED
libftdi 556068 -> CLOSED
libnl   556069 -> CLOSED
liboggz 556070 -> CLOSED
libotr  556071 -> CLOSED
librx   556072 -> CLOSED
libsemanage 556073 -> CLOSED
libsndfile  556074 -> CLOSED
libstatgrab 556075 -> CLOSED
libtranslate556076 -> CLOSED
libtwin 556077 -> CLOSED
libuninameslist 556078 -> CLOSED
libxslt 556079 -> CLOSED
link-grammar556080 -> CLOSED
linux-atm   556081 -> CLOSED
linuxwacom  556082 -> CLOSED
lockdev 556083 -> CLOSED
meanwhile   556084 -> CLOSED
mpich2  545149 -> CLOSED
munipack556086 -> CLOSED
nfs-utils-lib   556087 -> CLOSED
numactl 556088 -> CLOSED
opencdk 556089 -> CLOSED
openldap556090 -> CLOSED
proj556091 -> CLOSED
python  556092 -> CLOSED
QuantLib556035 -> CLOSED
rubberband  556093 -> CLOSED
shapelib556094 -> CLOSED
syck556095 -> CLOSED
sysfsutils  556096 -> CLOSED
texlive 556097 -> CLOSED
torque  556098 -> CLOSED
util-vserver556099 -> CLOSED
xbsql   556100 -> CLOSED
xen 556101 -> CLOSED
xfsprogs556102 -> CLOSED
xmlsec1 556103 -> CLOSED
xqilla  562566 -> CLOSED
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Re: Update on packages violating the Static Library guidelines

2010-06-20 Thread Chen Lei
util-vserver556099 -> CLOSED

FYI, util-vserver is re-enabled to ship static libraries again by the
maintainer now after spot disabled it.


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Re: Update on packages violating the Static Library guidelines

2010-06-20 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:56:23 +0800, Chen wrote:

> util-vserver556099 -> CLOSED
> 
> FYI, util-vserver is re-enabled to ship static libraries again by the
> maintainer now after spot disabled it.

Not a problem as long as it packages them in adherence to the Packaging
Guidelines (i.e. a separate -static package). The script I run has not
suggested to reopen the util-vserver ticket, and in koji I see a
util-vserver-static package. So, assumedly the packaging doesn't violate
the guidelines.
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Re: Problem with createrepo for modified DVD ISO

2010-06-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 17:07:02 -0400,
  Digimer  wrote:
> 
> Perhaps they are, and I will look into them. However, my curiosity has 
> been piqued, so I'd still like to know how it's supposed to be done. It 
> seems to me like it should be a somewhat straight forward task, so I am 
> curious about where my understanding has failed.

I think pungi is used for official releases, but that Fedora Unity uses
revisor for their respins. Either should be usable with mock to get
reproduceable builds. For one offs on the same arch as the builder,
you don't really need mock.
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Re: To construct a Zope skyscraper on Fedora

2010-06-20 Thread Felix Schwarz
Am 18.06.2010 15:08, schrieb Robin 'cheese' Lee:
> And I hope for the co-maintainership of following packages, which are
> required by Zope2:
(...)
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/python-zope-interface

I'm happy to grant you these :-)

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Re: To construct a Zope skyscraper on Fedora

2010-06-20 Thread Nathaniel McCallum
On 06/20/2010 07:00 AM, Robin 'cheese' Lee wrote:
> On 06/20/2010 12:22 PM, Jonathan Steffan wrote:
>> On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 21:08 +0800, Robin 'cheese' Lee wrote:
>>
>>> The 'zope' package itself is most kept under the same conventions of the
>>> legacy 2.10.x 'zope' package.
>>>
>> With zope 2.12 supporting py2.6, I think we might actually have a shot
>> at making this work. However, immediately off the bat if we stick 2.12.x
>> into "zope" what happens to grok? What packages are going to break? Too
>> many things need zope 2.x so updating the "zope" namespace to zope 3
>> would break a lot of good software. What happens to plone? Do we just
>> ditch Plone 3 and only support Plone 4?[2]
>>
> This is really worrying.
>

For our own sanity we are going to have to make some tough choices.  I 
don't think we can please everyone.  I do however, think we can please 
most people.

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Re: To construct a Zope skyscraper on Fedora

2010-06-20 Thread Nathaniel McCallum
On 06/20/2010 05:42 AM, Robin 'cheese' Lee wrote:
> On 06/20/2010 12:45 PM, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
>> On 06/20/2010 12:22 AM, Jonathan Steffan wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 2010-06-18 at 21:08 +0800, Robin 'cheese' Lee wrote:
>>>
 The 'zope' package itself is most kept under the same conventions of the
 legacy 2.10.x 'zope' package.

>>> We have a unique opportunity to address many of the failings of the
>>> current zope namespace. We should get anyone interested (and willing to
>>> do the work) into a meeting soon. Every time I go back to building up
>>> zope again I run out of steam and end up just being frustrated. I
>>> foresee issues with splitting out every module in this stack but it just
>>> needs to be discussed. The current package layout is far from optimal
>>> and it's not the best idea to ship a default standalone instance with
>>> the package. Shipping standalone/zeo instance configs/etc. in
>>> subpackages is a far better idea. I've never been able to address this
>>> as there is just about no upgrade path (that I've been able to design)
>>> that would allow for a safe re-layout of the current package.
>>>
>>> We should consider the current "zope" namespace dead and start from
>>> scratch. It's far too complex of an application to be able to have
>>> everything in one namespace (speaking to zope2 vs zope3.) I've only
>>> briefly looked into all of the specs you've worked on and already can
>>> see we are going to run into issues with cross-product dependencies. I
>>> could be convinced that the "zope" namespace should be the latest 2.x
>>> and then address the need for zope 3 in the zope3 namespace. However,
>>> how do we distinguish a module built for zope 2 vs zope 3? This, again,
>>> could be solved but will need discussion.
>>>
>>> With zope 2.12 supporting py2.6, I think we might actually have a shot
>>> at making this work. However, immediately off the bat if we stick 2.12.x
>>> into "zope" what happens to grok? What packages are going to break? Too
>>> many things need zope 2.x so updating the "zope" namespace to zope 3
>>> would break a lot of good software. What happens to plone? Do we just
>>> ditch Plone 3 and only support Plone 4?[2]
>>>
>>> We could also modularize everything and have things like "zope",
>>> "plone", "grok" and "zenoss" have dependencies based on their release
>>> recipes. There are a lot of common modules in these projects, but they
>>> all have their own specific version requirements. This would be a lot of
>>> work and could potentially cause us to package ourselves into a corner
>>> where we are having to do absolute requires or just end up with broken
>>> software when absolute requirements are not properly documented.
>>>
>>> I really look forward to others being involved with this. Count me in
>>> for the SIG.[2]
>>>
>>> - Jonathan Steffan
>>>
>>> [1] http://plone.org/documentation/faq/plone-versions
>>> [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Zope
>>>
>> I agree, we've got lots to talk about.  The most important things are:
>> 1. Packaging guidelines
>> 2. Component upgrade guidelines
>> 3. Namespace issues (addressed above)
>> 4. Zope 2 vs Zope 3 (again, addressed above)
>>
> Zope 3 seems no more going, and a new project named BlueBream[1][2]
> replacing it is being developed.
>
> There are also other blueprint-like and amazing projects[3][4] being
> worked on in the Zope world.
>
> But after all, the most productive and widely used is still Zope 2 which
> should gets higher priority.
>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlueBream
> [2] https://launchpad.net/bluebream
> [2] http://codespeak.net/z3/five/
> [3] http://repoze.org/

I suspect BlueBream solves our namespace issue; namely, the zope 
namespace will be zope2 only.

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Re: Problem with createrepo for modified DVD ISO

2010-06-20 Thread mike cloaked
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Bruno Wolff III  wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 17:07:02 -0400,
>  Digimer  wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps they are, and I will look into them. However, my curiosity has
>> been piqued, so I'd still like to know how it's supposed to be done. It
>> seems to me like it should be a somewhat straight forward task, so I am
>> curious about where my understanding has failed.
>
> I think pungi is used for official releases, but that Fedora Unity uses
> revisor for their respins. Either should be usable with mock to get
> reproduceable builds. For one offs on the same arch as the builder,
> you don't really need mock.

Mock helps to keep things in their own chroot!   By the way is there
any way to build a 64 bit iso using mock/chroot running in a 32 bit
version of Fedora?

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Re: DMitry

2010-06-20 Thread Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)

 19.06.2010 20:34, Ian Baker ?:

Hello to all.

The subject package is currently orphaned and I'm thinking of taking 
it over.


One problem I can foresee is that, as far as I can tell, there's no 
longer an upstream maintainer and at least one patch is required to 
fix compilation issues (warnings) and the code needs a general tidy-up.


I could maintain the patches locally, or as a small pet project I 
could take over upstream maintenance which shouldn't require much work 
as the codebase is small.


Any suggestions and advice would be appreciated and I'm new so please 
go easy!


Thanks.

Ian
In the similar situation with dead upstream of trafshow I was told 
became upstream developer for it if I want see it in Fedora.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510651
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Re: DMitry

2010-06-20 Thread ianrichardba...@gmail.com
Thanks for the information. 

I have tried to contact upstream with no success, their website hasn't been 
updated in a while, and the latest sources appear to be five years old.

There hasn't been a package update in three months so I'll submit as new after 
I fix a few issues.

Thanks.

Ian




- Reply message -
From: "Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)" 
Date: Sun, Jun 20, 2010 22:41
Subject: DMitry
To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" 

  19.06.2010 20:34, Ian Baker ?:
> Hello to all.
>
> The subject package is currently orphaned and I'm thinking of taking 
> it over.
>
> One problem I can foresee is that, as far as I can tell, there's no 
> longer an upstream maintainer and at least one patch is required to 
> fix compilation issues (warnings) and the code needs a general tidy-up.
>
> I could maintain the patches locally, or as a small pet project I 
> could take over upstream maintenance which shouldn't require much work 
> as the codebase is small.
>
> Any suggestions and advice would be appreciated and I'm new so please 
> go easy!
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ian
In the similar situation with dead upstream of trafshow I was told 
became upstream developer for it if I want see it in Fedora.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=510651


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rfc: give koji diff capabilities

2010-06-20 Thread David Timms
Probably thought of a million times, but was wondering whether it would 
be possible, and useful to give diff capabilities within the koji web 
interface.

eg: x86_64 build
...
Output  build.log  (tail)
 root.log (tail)
 state.log (tail)
could become:
Output  build.log  (tail)  (diff)
 root.log (tail)(diff)
 state.log (tail)   (diff)

hovering over diff would cause a (json) load of options:
- diff -u with other arch:
   i686, ppc, ppc64
- diff -u with other version:
   list other builds in this release (eg devel): 4.3-1, 4.3-4,
- diff -u with other release:
   list other releases of same version that have been built: f12, f13

The diff could be generated to look like a viewvc side by side diff.
Bonus points if the diff ignores things like:
- tmp file names (/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.trZK8P)
- log address: 0x2b9c82662f90
- builder: x86-05.phx2.fedoraproject.org

Previously, I found the build logs rather boring; by saving each 
locally, then running meld on them, I immediately see what has changed 
between eg F12 and devel.

Any comments (other than 'show me the money/code') ?
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Re: rfc: give koji diff capabilities

2010-06-20 Thread Thomas Spura
Am Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:32:07 +1000
schrieb David Timms :

> Probably thought of a million times, but was wondering whether it
> would be possible, and useful to give diff capabilities within the
> koji web interface.
> 
> eg: x86_64 build
> ...
> Output  build.log  (tail)
>  root.log (tail)
>  state.log (tail)
> could become:
> Output  build.log  (tail)  (diff)
>  root.log (tail)(diff)
>  state.log (tail)   (diff)
> 
> hovering over diff would cause a (json) load of options:
> - diff -u with other arch:
>i686, ppc, ppc64
> - diff -u with other version:
>list other builds in this release (eg devel): 4.3-1, 4.3-4,
> - diff -u with other release:
>list other releases of same version that have been built: f12, f13
> 
> The diff could be generated to look like a viewvc side by side diff.
> Bonus points if the diff ignores things like:
> - tmp file names (/var/tmp/rpm-tmp.trZK8P)
> - log address: 0x2b9c82662f90
> - builder: x86-05.phx2.fedoraproject.org
> 
> Previously, I found the build logs rather boring; by saving each 
> locally, then running meld on them, I immediately see what has
> changed between eg F12 and devel.
> 
> Any comments (other than 'show me the money/code') ?

I don't see a benefit of that... When a build fails, it kills all
other current builds of other architectures, so you need to check that
architecture, that fails first and the diff would not contain the error.

Other that that. The diff would show, different which different
packages are installed, e.g. gcc.i386 instead of gcc.x86_64, which
doesn't interest me either...
(And different requires etc.)

What would be the benefit of such a feature?

Thomas
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Re: To construct a Zope skyscraper on Fedora

2010-06-20 Thread Robin 'cheese' Lee
On 06/20/2010 11:08 PM, Felix Schwarz wrote:
> Am 18.06.2010 15:08, schrieb Robin 'cheese' Lee:
>
>> And I hope for the co-maintainership of following packages, which are
>> required by Zope2:
>>  
> (...)
>
>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/python-zope-interface
>>  
> I'm happy to grant you these :-)
>
> fs
>
>
Thanks!

Robin
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Minutes/Summary for the 2010-06-15 FESCo meeting

2010-06-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
===
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-06-15)
===

Meeting started by mjg59 at 19:35:11 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-06-15/fesco.2010-06-15-19.35.log.html

Meeting summary
---
* init process  (mjg59, 19:36:01)
  * kylem and nirik unable to attend today  (mjg59, 19:36:30)

* #351 Create a policy for updates - status report on implementation
  (mjg59, 19:36:47)
  * ACTION: mclasen to look over critpath documentation  (mjg59,
19:40:18)

* #382 Implementing Stable Release Vision  (mjg59, 19:41:12)
  * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Stable_release_updates_vision
(mjg59, 19:49:10)
  * ACTION: fesco to continue to update

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Stable_release_updates_vision_implementation_ideas
and aim to produce a comprehensive policy for the board  (mjg59,
19:56:41)

* #387  (mjg59, 19:57:18)

* #387 compile list of supported CPUs and react to recent loss of
  support for Geode LX on F13  (mjg59, 19:57:24)
  * AGREED: dsd_ to post a patch to disable 686 assembler optimisations
for glibc for f13  (mjg59, 20:39:30)
  * AGREED: more research on the details of building i586 separately to
be carried out before deciding on f14  (mjg59, 20:40:18)

* #394 F14Feature: MeeGo 1.0
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/MeeGo_1.0  (mjg59, 20:41:18)
  * AGREED: Meego 1.0 is an F14 feature  (mjg59, 20:46:12)

* #395 F14Feature: Sugar 0.90
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Sugar_0.90  (mjg59, 20:46:27)
  * AGREED: Sugar 0.90 is an F14 feature  (mjg59, 20:47:47)

* #396 F14Feature: systemd -
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/systemd  (mjg59, 20:48:02)
  * AGREED: Systemd is a feature for F14  (mjg59, 21:00:57)

* Open Floor  (mjg59, 21:04:26)

* FES ticket updates -
  https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-engineering-services/report/6  (mjg59,
  21:05:07)

* Open Floor  (mjg59, 21:07:00)

Meeting ended at 21:08:52 UTC.

Action Items

* mclasen to look over critpath documentation
* fesco to continue to update
  
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Stable_release_updates_vision_implementation_ideas
  and aim to produce a comprehensive policy for the board

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19:35:11  Meeting started Tue Jun 15 19:35:11 2010 UTC.  The chair is 
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19:35:11  Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link 
#topic.
19:35:17  #meetingname fesco
19:35:17  The meeting name has been set to 'fesco'
19:35:36  #chair mjg59 mclasen notting SMParrish_mobile ajax pjones 
cwickert
19:35:36  Current chairs: SMParrish_mobile ajax cwickert mclasen mjg59 
notting pjones
19:35:52  We're missing kyle and nirik
19:36:01  #topic init process
19:36:05  zodbot uses LC_COLLATE=en_US .  Ew.
19:36:13  kyle said he might not make it (still in UK)
19:36:20  Yeah
19:36:22  Ok
19:36:30  #info kylem and nirik unable to attend today
19:36:37  Ok, shall we start?
19:36:47  #topic #351 Create a policy for updates - status report on 
implementation
19:36:48  oh, wait, I'm backwards.
19:36:50  .fesco 351
19:36:51  mjg59: #351 (Create a policy for updates) - FESCo - Trac - 
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/351
19:37:02  Anyone got anything to say on this this week?
19:37:15  no change on my end from this week. jlaska was doing some 
critpath documentation
19:37:51  Anyone else?
19:37:57  did lukes bodhi update happen ?
19:38:06  lmacken: Around?
19:38:10 * mclasen should know this, but doesn't...
19:38:17  notting: feel free to make suggestions, I'm missing important 
critpath information for maintainers -- 
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Critical_Path_Packages
19:39:06 * mclasen will look it over after the meeting too
19:39:32 * cwickert is here...
19:40:02  mclasen: thx
19:40:18  #action mclasen to look over critpath documentation
19:40:33  Anyone else? Or shall we move on?
19:40:57  (going once.. twice...)
19:41:12  #topic #382 Implementing Stable Release Vision
19:41:13 * cwickert thinks that the KDE list of critical path is way to short
19:41:34  cwickert: We've had that conversation - unfortunately it seems 
difficult to come up with a better one that doesn't cover pretty much the 
entirity of KDE
19:42:18  And an overly broad critpath would likely serve as a deterrent 
to maintainers at the moment. If KDE ends up looking bad compared to the rest 
of the distribution, then with luck that's something they'll pay attention to
19:42:32  mjg59: well, the Xfce critpath covers half of Xfce, the 
LXDE one too
19:42:44  cwickert: sure, but those are both smaller than kde, right?
19:43:07  yes, but the percentage is way higher
19:43:12  anyway, lets move on
19:43:45  Ok, so we have the wiki page at 
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Stable_release_updates_vision_implementation_ideas
19:43:56  We haven't really added much to that
19:44:29  I'm not convinced that IRC is the best way

Re: rpms/xml-security-c/EL-6 xml-security-c.spec,1.5,1.6

2010-06-20 Thread Dennis Gilmore
umm why did you make that change?

On Sunday, June 20, 2010 03:06:32 pm stevetraylen wrote:
> Author: stevetraylen
> 
> Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/xml-security-c/EL-6
> In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv2536
> 
> Modified Files:
>   xml-security-c.spec
> Log Message:
> EPEL5 one better than F12 for EPEL6.
> 
> 
> 
> Index: xml-security-c.spec
> ===
> RCS file: /cvs/pkgs/rpms/xml-security-c/EL-6/xml-security-c.spec,v
> retrieving revision 1.5
> retrieving revision 1.6
> diff -u -p -r1.5 -r1.6
> --- xml-security-c.spec   21 Aug 2009 16:32:47 -  1.5
> +++ xml-security-c.spec   20 Jun 2010 20:06:31 -  1.6
> @@ -1,6 +1,6 @@
>  Name:   xml-security-c
>  Version:1.5.1
> -Release:2%{?dist}
> +Release:1%{?dist}
>  Summary:C++ Implementation of W3C security standards for XML
> 
>  Group:  System Environment/Libraries
> @@ -81,9 +81,6 @@ rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
>  # %doc CHANGELOG.txt
> 
>  %changelog
> -* Fri Aug 21 2009 Tomas Mraz  - 1.5.1-2
> -- rebuilt with new openssl
> -
>  * Tue Jul 28 2009 Antti Andreimann  1.5.1-1
>  - New upstream relase (#513078)
>  - Fixes CVE-2009-0217 (#511915)


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headsup: ghc-6.12.3

2010-06-20 Thread Jens Petersen
I built ghc-6.12.3 for F14.  This will require rebuilding all
ghc library packages, which I and the Haskell SIG will be doing
over the coming days - the meantime please bear with us with
the broken dependencies...

Thanks,
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Re: Fedora rawhide FTBFS status 2010-06-01 x86_64

2010-06-20 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Matt Domsch wrote:
> Fedora Fails To Build From Source Results for x86_64
> using rawhide from 2010-06-01
>
[cut]

Question 1:
Suppose package A fails to build from source due to a bug in package B
that is listed in package A's BuildRequires. Now that package B gets
fixed, and it is possible to build package A from source without any
modification. Do we need to bump A's release and do the rebuild in
this case?

Question 2:
What is the likelihood of a mass rebuild in this cycle?

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Re: To construct a Zope skyscraper on Fedora

2010-06-20 Thread Chen Lei
2010/6/21 Nathaniel McCallum :
> On 06/20/2010 05:42 AM, Robin 'cheese' Lee wrote:
>
> I suspect BlueBream solves our namespace issue; namely, the zope
> namespace will be zope2 only.
>
> Nathaniel
> --
Agree, all zope components won't have any namespace conflict issue now
as I known. Packaging them as normal python modules is Okay, but since
Zope2 contains more than 100 modules, packaging/maintaining so many
modules is not easy work.


Chen Lei

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Re: Fedora rawhide FTBFS status 2010-06-01 x86_64

2010-06-20 Thread Matt Domsch
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:24:27PM -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Matt Domsch wrote:
> > Fedora Fails To Build From Source Results for x86_64
> > using rawhide from 2010-06-01
> >
> [cut]
> 
> Question 1:
> Suppose package A fails to build from source due to a bug in package B
> that is listed in package A's BuildRequires. Now that package B gets
> fixed, and it is possible to build package A from source without any
> modification. Do we need to bump A's release and do the rebuild in
> this case?

No.  List in bug A that it "Depends on" the bug number for B.  Close
the bug against A once package B is fixed and its own bug closed.
 
> Question 2:
> What is the likelihood of a mass rebuild in this cycle?

I've heard rumors that it's likely, but I don't know for certain what
the trigger would be this time.  Likely a glibc or gcc change.

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