[dev] dwm and torbutton weirdness
Using dwm 5.7.2 and Torbutton 1.2.4 in Firefox 3.5.7, I get the following weird behavior when enabling Tor usage: Before: http://vorratsdatenspeicher.ath.cx/dwm_torbutton_1.png After: http://vorratsdatenspeicher.ath.cx/dwm_torbutton_2.png See the right and bottom. Any idea what causes this and how to fix it? -- ilf i...@jabber.berlin.ccc.de Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] dwm-5.8 / dmenu-4.1
Yup, mplayer fullscreen is broken. Antoni Grzymala wrote: This must be very recent breakage, as I've been on running on hg tip for the last weeks/months and only after today's checkout this turned to be broken. I guess it's this patch for fullscreen state: http://hg.suckless.org/dwm/rev/2a8d8d41e50b Unfortunately, it doesn't only break mplayer fullscreen, but flash fullscreen still doesn't work with this. YouTube and spiegel.de flash videos still don't display fullscreen with Flash 10.0.45 for me. :( PS: Sorry for breaking the thread. Wasn't subscribed until now. -- ilf@jabber.berlin.ccc.de Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] dwm-5.8.1 / dmenu-4.1.1
On 05-30 11:12, David DEMELIER wrote: Please test hg tip and let me know any issues. Do you remember the mplayer scaling issue that we talked about on IRC? The issue is still here even in hg tip. I don't know which issue you were talking about, but for me mplayer now *always* is fulscreen. I cannot resize it via 'f' or with the mouse. But flash fullscreen works. :) -- ilf@jabber.berlin.ccc.de Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] dwm-5.8.1 / dmenu-4.1.1
On 05-30 21:05, ilf wrote: I don't know which issue you were talking about, but for me mplayer now *always* is fulscreen. I cannot resize it via 'f' or with the Nevermind. I only now read the entire thread in the archive and fstype=none works. Now mplayer and flash fullscreen work, yay! -- ilf@jabber.berlin.ccc.de Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] dwm-5.8.1 / dmenu-4.1.1
On 06-02 10:13, ilf wrote: Now mplayer and flash fullscreen work, yay! One more thing i noticed: Now Firefox fullscreen always covers the entire screen, including the dwm status bar. Without the patch, fullscreen still displayed the status bar, it being toggable was kind of nice. This is probably not a bug, though. -- ilf@jabber.berlin.ccc.de Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] dwm-5.8.2 / 9base-6
On 06-04 11:56, Anselm R Garbe wrote: after the positive feedback to the recent fullscreen fixes it is time for a new dwm bugfix release: http://dl.suckless.org/dwm/dwm-5.8.2.tar.gz Thanks! As I reported with Firefox before, also Xpdf's fullscreen behaviour changed. The most obvious change is that both clients now also cover the dwm status bar when in fullscreen. Xpdf seems even a little more aggressive. When in fullscreen, it uses the entire screen, no matter what. Before, dwm was able to tile multiple fullscreen Xpdf clients. Also, Xpdf doesn't allow any other client (like a terminal) to be in front of it any more. Alt+Tabbing only switches between Xpdfs, the other clients are counted, but ignored. I guess, this is correct behaviour and not a dwm bug. From a user perspective, Firefox and Xpdfs old behaviour were more user friendly, though. But then again, all these programs (and especially Flash) do *not* suck less. -- ilf@jabber.berlin.ccc.de Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] dwm-5.8.2 / 9base-6
On 06-05 09:34, Szabolcs Nagy wrote: in tiled mode xpdf works as it used to, so i'm not terribly annoyed Only not full-screened Xpdf works as before, full-screened Xpd does not, as described. I use an alias xpdff='xpdf -fullscreen'. -- ilf@jabber.berlin.ccc.de Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[dev] [st] 256 colors?
http://st.suckless.org/goals sais: | Confirmed st features | # 256 colour support (Arg) I'm wondering, if this is already implemented. If so, what do i need to set? Right now, a colortest looks like this for me: xterm: http://i.imgur.com/oP7SK.png rxvt: http://i.imgur.com/6Dimc.png st: http://i.imgur.com/buG6b.png Output in 'screen' with TERM=screen-256color is again different in all three. Is st trying to be xterm compatible there? -- ilf@jabber.berlin.ccc.de Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[dev] [tabbed] options: bottom, right
I really like tabbed + surf. Ditched uzbl :) I am missing two options though: - display tabbed on the bottom of the screen - display new tabs on the right instead of left I think these shouldn't be bloat or hard to implement. While on this, I noticed dmenu uses the flag "-b" for this. Why was it decided to not make it an option in config.h? Anyways, I'd really like this in tabbed, too. Don't really care about config.h option of flag. config.h seems cleaner, though. -- ilf@jabber.berlin.ccc.de Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Re: [dev] Suckless operating system
On 06-14 20:18, Stanley Lieber wrote: I've had to stop using surf to monitor a page at my job because they now insist upon a Netscape or IE user agent string. config.h: static char *useragent or http://surf.suckless.org/patches/useragent 'Monitoring' a page sounds like I'd script it though. -- ilf@jabber.berlin.ccc.de Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] which minimal os
On 02-11 17:26, Kurt H Maier wrote: well, as long as we're all just spouting crap I was wondering where Uriel is hiding from TT. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] [st] A few small patches
On 04-03 02:06, Aurélien Aptel wrote: I've tagged v0.1 to tip. Yay, http://st.suckless.org/ needs a link to st-0.1.tar.gz, though. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[dev] [st] 0.1 Feedback - Was: A few small patches
On 04-03 02:06, Aurélien Aptel wrote: I've tagged v0.1 to tip. 1. config.mk still sais VERSION = 0.0 2. alsamixer(1) behaves horribly. 3. I really like urxvt(1)s urlLauncher functionality. Copy+Pasting URLs is a PITA, especially on laptops without a middle mouse button for pasting. What do you all think about it? -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] [st] 0.1 Feedback - Was: A few small patches
On 04-03 20:27, Aurélien Aptel wrote: 2. alsamixer(1) behaves horribly. Could you be more specific? Screenshots, stderr, etc. If you're using TERM=st, make sure you've install the terminfo entry, as explained in the faq. It just renders horribly slow, like downloading a GIF in the Ninetees. Terminfo is set. Running "time alsamixer" and immediately pressing ESC to quit it takes less than .2 seconds with TERM=xterm, but more than 0.4 with TERM=st[-256color]. 3. I really like urxvt(1)s urlLauncher functionality. Copy+Pasting URLs is a PITA, especially on laptops without a middle mouse button for pasting. What do you all think about it? I agree. If we implement a way to redirect the terminal i/o (cf. "goals" page), one could probably script this feature easily. Missed looking there again: http://st.suckless.org/goals Theoretical features - Redirect the IO of the terminal to a file (pancake) - URL selecting/launching in browser similiar to vimperator’s mark mode and the urxvt script (patch?) (possibly piped through something like plumb to determine which app to use) (n0nsense) Well, then we just need the flamewar about transparency again :p -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work
On 05-04 21:50, Bryan Bennett wrote: Why not just use the built in transparency of the terminal? st lacks this. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[dev] [st] transparency - Was: [dwm] devilspie doesn't work
On 05-05 22:04, Aurélien Aptel wrote: Leon Winter made a patch to support transparency in st few months ago [1]. It should'nt be hard to adapt it to tip if you want it. 1: http://lists.suckless.org/dev/1009/6046.html Cool! Any chance of adding a patches/ menu to http://st.suckless.org/ similar to http://dwm.suckless.org/patches/ and including this? To the haters: Do you think this sucks for usability or code size reasons? The patch only adds 4 LOC, so it can't be that. About the usability: well that depends on the config. And while there may be truly horrible uses of this around, I really like my setup: http://i.imgur.com/3UDbi.png -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work
On 05-06 09:33, Anselm R Garbe wrote: This thread is no longer fun. Take this crap offlist. This thread has become longer than the wmii source code nearly ;) http://xkcd.com/386/ -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution
On 05-06 17:04, hiro wrote: last time I talked about fltk everyone here wanted to kill me and I had to change my phone number. WTF. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] Tabbed unmaintained?
On 05-06 22:46, u...@netbeisser.de wrote: 1 Oettinger is on the way. Öttinger? SRSLY? -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[dev] [dwm] move windows via keyboard
I find myself using this mouse thing for moving floating windows around. Is there any way to do this via keyboard? I don't need to so this pixel by pixel, but rather from corner to corner. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] sltar c
On 05-19 19:15, Connor Lane Smith wrote: Maybe Enno could apply it to the sltar repo? Since Enno is here, but sltar isn't on suckles.org: What's the relationship between sltar and suckless? What makes a project a suckless project? -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] TermKit
On 05-20 00:23, hiro wrote: https://github.com/unconed/TermKit Idea: http://acko.net/blog/on-termkit Videos: http://acko.net/blog/i-put-a-spell-on-you -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] "Making Apps That Don't Suck" by Mike Lee
On 05-21 11:27, Nick wrote: Indeed. Looks like the flash player is just used to show slides & the mp3. You can download the mp3 & slides separately from the side, using credentials from http://bugmenot.com/view/infoq.com This should do it: http://50.19.108.58/downloads/b6e622f32856f618cdb08da264a6079a/4dd811c3/mp3downloads/presentations/infoq-11-mar-makingappsthatdontsuck.mp3 Is there a recording of Anselm's talk at LinuxTag? -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] sbase
On 05-23 05:37, Jens Staal wrote: For fun, I have been trying to replace GNU with Busybox: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Base2busybox Heirloom: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Base2heirloom Plan9port: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Base2plan9 Very interesting. Tried these, too? http://www.fefe.de/embutils/ -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[dev] suckless wget/curl
I think we can safely agree that both of these suck: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 123K 2011-01-26 20:11 /usr/bin/curl* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 346K 2011-02-20 12:05 /usr/bin/wget* Since I can't be the first to realize that, is there already a suckless alternative for simple HTTP/FTP data transfer? -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] suckless wget/curl
On 05-28 00:00, u...@netbeisser.de wrote: why not use standard tools? 14K /usr/bin/GET 70K /usr/bin/ftp /usr/bin/GET: symbolic link to `lwp-request' /usr/bin/lwp-request: a /usr/bin/perl -w script text executable -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[dev] Suckless Smartphone?
Apparently all smartphones suck. Hard. One can either choose the Apple walled garden or the Google walled garden. The Nokia N900 may feel more familiar with MeeGo being a "real" Linux, but it seems kind of dead since Nokia announced its switch to Windows Mobile Phone. The Openmoko FreeRunner sounds pretty nice, but isn't quite the user experience. So, what's your smartphone of choice? What did you do to make it suck less? Also, Anselm seems to be an Android developer for living: Are you working on anything cool that would fit this crowd? -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] Suckless Smartphone?
On 06-05 19:08, hiro wrote: The "best" "smart" phones maintain 24/7 connections to icq, msn, yahoo, irc, google mail, exchange, facebook, twitter and regularly download all subscribed rss feeds and podcasts to always keep you "up to date". I actually only want a Browser and a usable Terminal with an SSH-Client. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] run a program and display on a specific tab
On 06-06 11:20, Piotr Zalewa wrote: I want to create a script which will load my default setup (quite a few programs). I use .xinitrc for this. How to run a program so it will be displayed on a desired tab? (view, workspace - I always had a problem with that lingo) I assign programs to tags in config.h. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] "Making Apps That Don't Suck" by Mike Lee
On 06-07 06:48, garbeam wrote: http://dl.garbe.us/The_suckless_org_universe.pdf Thanks. What does this number say? "Approx. 5000 users world wide" Is that the number of IPs of downloads? -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] ideas on suckless file manager
On 06-08 11:23, Yoshi Rokuko wrote: sxiv is my image viewer of choice, currently... http://github.com/muennich/sxiv thank you for pointing out - i immediately?switched from feh to sxiv it's so much better and tiling friendly ... I use feh only for --bg-center, any way to do that with sxiv? -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] ideas on suckless file manager
On 06-08 12:13, Bert Münnich wrote: i dont think this is a task for an image viewer. we should probably write an ssetroot or so linking against imlib2 and allowing opaque colors like xsetroot does.. Yay! but well.. changing the background is not something we do everyday unless you have any kind of mental disease.. My background is set in .xinitrc, and I start (and quit) X several times a day. In the meantime, have a look at imlibsetroot: http://robotmonkeys.net/2010/08/03/imlibsetroot-1-3/ "imlibsetroot is pretty much Esetroot, but *much* more feature rich." http://robotmonkeys.net/2010/03/30/imlibsetroot/ -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] ideas on suckless file manager
On 06-09 09:04, Petr Sabata wrote: How about bgs? http://s01.de/~tox/index.cgi/proj_bgs Been using that for a while. Doesn't do it for me with rxvt-unicode 9.09 any more, because it doesn't set XROOTPMAP on the root window. Too busy to fix. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] Microsoft considers harmful...
On 06-17 16:40, Rob wrote: Sure, they don't have a leg to stand on in this area Not to defend Microsoft, but we're not in the Ninetees any more. Since Vista, they have invested millions into security and flew in almost every internationally known security researcher to break their stuff. Their software is far from "secure" (see the monthly patch day), but they might have more critical exposure then some of our free environments, see the Debian SSL debacle.. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] How to monitor battery status
On 06-19 22:55, Erik Hahn wrote: http://dwm.suckless.org/scripts/simple_monitors I have done this the /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state | shell way for years and found it to be way more resource intense then calling acpi -b. Let's face it, the Shell/Perl/Python/whatever scripting is relatively easy, but very inefficient. That's why I really like this approach: On 06-20 10:43, Stefan Mark wrote: But i think think this is a better solution: http://dwm.suckless.org/dwmstatus/ Unfortunately, this promise is not kept: This page will give you a barebone dwmstatus project and show examples on how to extend it to your needs. It'd be cool to have a configurable C program to do what we're currently all scripting ourselves. FWIW, my relevant part from .xinitrc: http://pastebin.com/ShQYQri1 -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] How to monitor battery status
On 06-20 13:25, Kurt Van Dijck wrote: This program allows me to put 'whatever I can create on stdout' to the statusbar Euh yeah, that's what we use xsetroot(1) for. The problem is the scripting before that setp, aquiring the "whatever I can create on stdout". -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] exiting dwm correctly
On 06-28 20:49, Thomas Dahms wrote: There was a thread about properly terminating the loop that updates your status bar [1]. We discussed a lot, but did we reach an agreement? The README part still sais: 41 while xsetroot -name "`date` `uptime | sed 's/.*,//'`" 42 do 43 sleep 20 44 done & 45 exec dwm http://hg.suckless.org/dwm/file/ac3cba181282/README#l25 -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] dmenu-4.4
On 07-19 21:48, Connor Lane Smith wrote: tarball: http://dl.suckless.org/tools/dmenu-4.4.tar.gz Thanks for all. Could the releasers please start providing checksums (or PGP signatures) for releases? Now that'd be great.. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] dmenu-4.4
On 07-20 10:20, Kai Hendry wrote: Might it be satisfactory to just supply some sort of DNS level security and/or use HTTPS? I dunno. Both HTTPS and SHA(1|256) shouldn't really be a problem. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] dmenu-4.4
On 07-20 10:47, Kai Hendry wrote: "publishing the SHA" sounds crappy to me. How do you do it? In a wiki? In a text file? All suck. In the mail with the release announcement. HTTPS I can _just_ about live with, but that's crappy too really. Of course X.509 is broken and everything sucks, but it's what we have to live with. And better than nothing. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] dmenu-4.4
On 07-20 11:16, Kai Hendry wrote: In the mail with the release announcement. checksums in the announcement is something as a package maintainer you can't automate and has to be manual and hence sucks. I believe the mail that started this thread is not automated. Also I fail to see where "package meintainers" are involved. Of course X.509 is broken and everything sucks, but it's what we have to live with. And better than nothing. So would you be happy just with HTTPS and not checksums I wonder? No :) -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] dmenu-4.4
On 07-20 20:52, garbeam wrote: Could the releasers please start providing checksums (or PGP signatures) for releases? We coped very well without it for many years, why is the lack of md5 files a concern now? I always wondered if this had been discussed and rejected or just never thought about. Seems pretty helpful for some basic verification. Also seems good practive in the FLOSS world. Plus there have been cases of pwned and backdoor'd FLOSS repositories/releases. Anyhow, I'm fine to create md5 files for all downloadable tar.gz's that you can check the integrity. Cool! Tough SHA(1|256) seem more reasonable to me. :) -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[dev] color-scheme
What's your favorite color-scheme? I just came across this one: http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized While this may not be suckless core, we are pretty terminal focused. Also we did touch the topic before. I just hope, this won't get too religious. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] color-scheme
On 07-28 13:29, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized I've been playing a puzzle game which uses this scheme for partial solutions. I had to change the yellow I would use dark background and this one is too low contrast for me. I didn't reocmmend it, I just found it nice to have a solution for vim, XResources and mutt all in one. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[dev] https for suckless.org?
I wonder why the suckless-websites are only available in HTTP, not in HTTPS. In the age of letsencrypt.org, there aren't a lot of valid excuses against TLS. Am I missing one from a suckless-philosopy? Or has this just never been requested? I for one would love to see unencrypted communications on the internet die. Greetings to slcon! (Pardon if it's been discussed, I did not find it in the archives.) -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [dev] https for suckless.org?
Mark Mendell: This is on my TODO list for quite some time. Expect it to happen until end of this year. Good to hear. Thanks a lot! -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [dev] https for suckless.org?
Sylvain BERTRAND: HTTPS CA concept is broken in itself, then adds unwanted complexity. X.509 is bad design, but we can leave that for people that really don't know any different - and it's still better than unauthenticated cleartext. Everyone else - the suckless crowd - can use certificate pinning. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [dev] [st] [PATCH 2/2] Keep end of lines in memory when resizing terminal
hiro: If I run ssh from that environment it shouldn't just start the configured shell in the server that I login to. It should instead run dtach on the server and the shell inside, so that when I resume my laptop and regain network connectivity that same script that wraps ssh will start a new ssh session and attach to the old dtach'ed shell automatically. if [ ! $TMUX ] && [[ $(hostname) = "alice" ]] then tmux attach-session || tmux new-session logout fi -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [dev] dl.suckless.org file integrity github project
I want to stronly advocate for OpenPGP signatures of releases. HTTPS is good, and it's the new default: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/02/were-halfway-encrypting-entire-web The hierarchical trust model of X.509 make it suitable for many things, but for signing code that we build and run on our machines, I would like to use the strongest available trust model. The OpenPGP "web of trust" might be a little clumsy to use for some people and others might not have a trust path to the signing key(s). But when you have verified the signing key, it's the strongest cryptographically verified trust method out there. I'm sure many people here can use it correctly, and surely it's now suckless' fault, if people use it wrong. Providing an OpenPGP signature does not hurt anyone and does not force anyone to use it. If people trust code from git, http or https - nice for them. If people trust checksums - nice for them. If people want to verify code authenticity and integrity via OpenPGP - please let them! Thanks, and keep up the good work! Mattias Andrée: * The number of people that actually know the developers of a individual package is negligible, so there isn't actually anyone that the users can trust. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [dev] dl.suckless.org file integrity github project
Laslo Hunhold: I know no package manager that implements this model (tell if there is one). https://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt Another cool project: https://hannes.nqsb.io/Posts/Conex But since suckless doesn't have an OS (yet), the debate is not about package managers, but source releases. And are many, many software projects out there that sign their releases with OpenPGP. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [dev] dl.suckless.org file integrity github project
Thanks Anselm, this sounds awesome! Anselm R Garbe: - (optional) repo owners/maintainers should sign their future git tags for release creation by using their own private PGP key. I suggest distributing OpenPGP-keys via the keyserver pool [0] *without* self-hosting a copy. The point of keyservers is to allow faster distribution of changes like signatures, revocations, expirations - in an automated way [1, 2]. 0. https://sks-keyservers.net/ 1. https://github.com/ilf/gpg-maintenance 2. https://github.com/EtiennePerot/parcimonie.sh -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [dev] suckless.org TLS / HTTPS support
Hiltjo Posthuma: suckless.org now supports TLS using LetsEncrypt. Awesome, thanks a lot! Any chance to implement permanent redirects from http to https? -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [dev] suckless.org TLS / HTTPS support
Hiltjo Posthuma: I'm not a fan of automatic http to HTTPs redirects. It would break support for some text-based clients or some simple scripts as an example. I'm a huge fan of these redirects. A simple 301 Moved Permanently has been part of RFC 2616 sinde 1999 and anything not able to handle that is broken: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2616#section-10.3.2 Can you tell which clients and scripts break and how? HSTS support makes sure http to https links are changed on the client-side. Some privacy-settings clean all states on exit, including cookes and HSTS. And people mostly type domains into an URL bar, not protocols. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [dev] suckless.org TLS / HTTPS support
Paul Menzel: I understood it the way, that there might be programs not being able to deal with TLS. The first version of SSL/TLS became a standard in 1999. TLS 1.2 is from 2008, over nine years ago: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5246 Any software that can't deal with TLS is IMHO broken - and sucks. Really, cleartext is evil for many reasons: it lacks confidentiality, authenticity and integrity - and it opens many opportunities for downgrade scenarios. The Snowden relevations have shown that the internet is under attack and technologists should actively work against that: Pervasive Monitoring Is an Attack https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7258 Confidentiality in the Face of Pervasive Surveillance https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7624 So please, let's try to move away from cleartext to encrypted connections. Offering HTTPS is a huge first step. But let's take another step and redirect HTTP to HTTPS. (Until it's time to finally turn of HTTP.) Thanks. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [dev] suckless.org TLS / HTTPS support
hiro: this is not about just whether something has TLS support, this is about giving the user choices. If you can't speak TLS, then use gopher instead of HTTP. I hear HTTPS sucks, too. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [dev] suckless.org TLS / HTTPS support
No, I am serious. Users, who think HTTPS sucks, shouldn't use HTTP euther, because that sucks, too. The choice shouldn't be HTTPS or HTTP, but HTTPS or Gopher. But please let HTTP die. In the current setup, users who type the domain suckless.org into their URL get HTTP cleartext. I think these users should get HTTPS. And what about old external links to the site, they are currently 100% HTTP, too. Without a redirect, HTTP will continue ti be used by many users although many would rathet use HTTPs - or don't care. OTOH, I have yet to read a valid example which software "breaks" with a HTTP to HTTTPS redirect. I assume, it's very little software and probably easily fixable - or should just die. Anselm R Garbe: If you can't speak TLS, then use gopher instead of HTTP. I hear HTTP sucks, too. Come on, isn't this a contradiction to your always redirect approach? gopher is almost dead and doesn't provide any advantage over HTTP in terms of MIM prevention. I agree with hiro to let the user decide if he sticks to http or https, but that we shouldn't mandate https. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [dev] Re: suckless.org TLS / HTTPS support
The web is now 60 % HTTPS: https://letsencrypt.org/stats/ If your middleboxes can't handle suckless.org, they have bigger problems. Rubén Llorente: Reason 1 is that https prevents content from being properly cached by ISP proxies or LAN proxies. Reason 2 is that https prevents content from being filtered or modified by IDS', LAN proxies and the like. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [dev] suckless.org TLS / HTTPS support
ilf: suckless.org now supports TLS using LetsEncrypt. Any chance to implement permanent redirects from http to https? It seems these 301 redirects are now implemented. Thanks a lot! -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [dev] [PATCH] slstatus: cpu_perc: make 100% equivalent of 1 cpu
Quentin Rameau:
We are not collecting per-cpu statistics, so it's misleading at best.
Maybe we should do that?
From conky(1):
cpu (cpuN)
CPU usage in percents. For SMP machines, the CPU number can be
provided as an argument. ${cpu cpu0} is the total usage, and
${cpu cpuX} (X >= 1) are individual CPUs.
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Re: [dev] suckless too to minify CSS, JS and html
Use HTTP compression and keep your source readable. Thuban: Does anyone has advice for a suckless tool to minify JS, CSS and HTML files? I use sed for now, but it might not be the best solution. -- ilf If you upload your address book to "the cloud", I don't want to be in it. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [dev] [Announce] [dwm-6.2] [dmenu-4.9] new release
Anselm Garbe:
* dwm-6.2: https://dl.suckless.org/dwm/dwm-6.2.tar.gz
I'm having trouble building this on Debian 9.9, while dwm-6.1 works nicely:
/usr/local/src/dwm-6.2 % make
dwm build options:
CFLAGS = -std=c99 -pedantic -Wall -Wno-deprecated-declarations -Os -I/usr/X11R6/include
-I/usr/include/freetype2 -D_DEFAULT_SOURCE -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=2
-DVERSION="6.2" -DXINERAMA
LDFLAGS = -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lXinerama -lfontconfig -lXft
CC = cc
cp config.def.h config.h
cc -c -std=c99 -pedantic -Wall -Wno-deprecated-declarations -Os -I/usr/X11R6/include
-I/usr/include/freetype2 -D_DEFAULT_SOURCE -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=2
-DVERSION=\"6.2\" -DXINERAMA drw.c
drw.c: In function ‘xfont_create’:
drw.c:143:38: error: ‘FC_COLOR’ undeclared (first use in this function)
if(FcPatternGetBool(xfont->pattern, FC_COLOR, 0, &iscol) == FcResultMatch &&
iscol) {
^~~~
drw.c:143:38: note: each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each
function it appears in
drw.c: In function ‘drw_text’:
drw.c:353:32: error: ‘FC_COLOR’ undeclared (first use in this function)
FcPatternAddBool(fcpattern, FC_COLOR, FcFalse);
^~~~
Makefile:18: recipe for target 'drw.o' failed
make: *** [drw.o] Error 1
Any hint what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks, and keep up the good work!
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Re: [dev] [Announce] [dwm-6.2] [dmenu-4.9] new release
Chris Down: drw.c:353:32: error: ‘FC_COLOR’ undeclared (first use in this function) Your fontconfig is way too old. You need at least 2.11.91, which was released nearly 5 years ago(!). Yes, Debian stretch (stable) ships with 2.11.0-6.7+b1, buster (testing) has 2.13.1. I'll try again after the system upgrade. It works nicely on other Distros with more currentt fontconfig. Thanks for the help! -- ilf If you upload your address book to "the cloud", I don't want to be in it.
Re: [dev] [Announce] [dwm-6.2] [dmenu-4.9] new release
Richardson Philip: * dwm-6.2: https://dl.suckless.org/dwm/dwm-6.2.tar.gz I'm having trouble building this on Debian 9.9, while dwm-6.1 works nicely: It works with this quick and dirty solution : drw.h:#define FC_COLOR "color" Thanks a lot! I'd ask if this would qualify for an entry in the FAQ [1], but if noone asked until now and this only happens on Debian 9, maybe the list archive is enough. 1. https://dwm.suckless.org/faq/ -- ilf If you upload your address book to "the cloud", I don't want to be in it. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [dev] [Announce] [dwm-6.2] [dmenu-4.9] new release
Anselm Garbe: I'm glad to announce new dwm and dmenu releases: * dwm-6.2: https://dl.suckless.org/dwm/dwm-6.2.tar.gz Up to dwm 6.1, the status bar text had a padding space on the very left edge. In 6.2, that's not there any more. Even if specifically adding one or more space glyphs to the text passed to "xsetroot -name", these are stipped. I see this on multiple devices with multiple operating systems. Is this intentional? Does anyone know how to get it back? -- ilf If you upload your address book to "the cloud", I don't want to be in it. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [dev] [Announce] [dwm-6.2] [dmenu-4.9] new release
Jochen Sprickerhof: Up to dwm 6.1, the status bar text had a padding space on the very left edge. In 6.2, that's not there any more. Even if specifically adding one or more space glyphs to the text passed to "xsetroot -name", these are stipped. Should be this on: http://git.suckless.org/dwm/commit/a137a86a234476bc3c7128fecbf845e6fc1de995.html Yes, that's it. But I don't unserstand why this was merged. The status bar has multiple text areas: tags, layout symbol, window name, status. In the first three, the text content is padded. This change removes the padding only for the status area. I disagree with that design decision, IMHO it be padded, too. Was there a debate on this and rough consensus? If so, I'd love an option, but that's not the suckless way, so someone would need to maintain a patch. -- ilf If you upload your address book to "the cloud", I don't want to be in it. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [dev] [Announce] [dwm-6.2] [dmenu-4.9] new release
Markus Teich: I had another look at the patch and as I understand it it only removes left padding which should be a NOP as status text is overdrawn by window name anyway. How do you notice the behavior change? Are you using a different background color for status text and window name? Can you send screenshots of correct and wrong behavior and list all patches and the config.h you are using? Find a screenshot attached and on the web (for a week): https://share.riseup.net/#fussH9iew8QGakjdztEFcw Notice the padding left and right of: tags area, layout symbol area, window name area - but not status area. See "afk:". Up until 6.1, the status area had a little padding on the left area, too. In 6.2 it's gone, and the text is now right on the border where the area starts. Does this make clear what I mean? What do you think about this? I for one would like the padding back. :) Thanks, and keep up the good work! -- ilf If you upload your address book to "the cloud", I don't want to be in it. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [dev] [st] crashes with BadLength
Thanks to this I found out that after many years there is finally a patch that fixes this, it only needs to get merged: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/lib/libxft/-/merge_requests/1 Kai Hendry: libxft-bgra is the Archlinux package with libXft with BGRA glyph (color emoji) rendering & scaling patches by Maxime Coste -- ilf If you upload your address book to "the cloud", I don't want to be in it.
[dev] Dooble - Was: [surf] segfault
On 08-04 13:32, Cengiz Tas wrote: So what I are using instead for browsing? I mean beside FF or Chromium. Netsurf, Arora, etc. ? Netsurf lacks of Java Script and Arora development stopped for quite a long time. Anyone looked at this? http://dooble.sourceforge.net/ Dooble is a new Open Source Web browser that focuses on compactness, security, and stability. Total SLOC = 14,660 -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] Simple made Easy (Rich Hickey at StrangeLoop)
On 10-21 11:11, Pierre Chapuis wrote: http://www.infoq.com/presentations/Simple-Made-Easy Wow, 2789 LOC in the 100K HTML! -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] Bloat
On 10-31 10:26, Pierre Chapuis wrote: The touch command under OS X Lion (44,016 bytes). 42200 /usr/local/bin/dwm -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] [dwm] 2000 SLOC
On 10-31 23:28, Nick wrote: http://njw.me.uk/software/simplyread/ is a little js thing I wrote which is basically a nicer, simpler version of readability. works with surf, uzbl, chrome, firefox. Awesome! I've had this idea for years, but never found anyone following through with it. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] [dwm] 2000 SLOC
On 11-01 10:11, Connor Lane Smith wrote: A problem, though, is that it removes hyperlinks. I consider this a problem as well. If there was an option to keep links, I'd happily enable it. Also I'd adjust the new CSS (as in: clear it. I wonder if it would be possible to 'crowdsource' readability so we can contribute bits of pages to hide, like on Wikipedia we don't care about '[edit]', etc... Not sure how we'd go about that, though. I once envisioned a Plugin to directly go to "Print Views" of websites, since they tend to have considerably less suck on them. I'm pretty trained for my standard websites, but still I do: Open Print View, disbale CSS, and now trigger SimplyRead. I think we could automate all that and crowd-source the rules for it. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] Shameless patch request
On 12-07 11:04, Justin Pogue wrote: At work, I typically have a terminal doing something like "while true; do ls -l /var/cores && sleep 10 && clear; done", and it bugs me that I'm taking up so much screen space with things like that when all I need to be able to see is whether or not there are any files being created there. All I need is 2 or 3 lines of output. Script it and put the output to dwm status bar via xsetroot. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] Suckless Linux distro (was: "monsterwm - 700 SLOC dwm fork")
On 05-29 01:41, Paul Onyschuk wrote: On my personal wish-list (could be wish-list for year 2012) is creating non-GNU Linux distribution. Now that would be cool. Something like "XXX's not GNU" would create hilarious acronym. lol -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[dev] [slock] kill slock with Ctrl+Alt+Multiply
It's reported, that X.Org 1.10.99.902 introduced the possibility to kill the top X.org window via keybinding Ctrl+Alt+Multiply. I don't have a current X.Org on this box, but it reportedly works for slock 0.9: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2012/q1/191 http://gu1.aeroxteam.fr/2012/01/19/bypass-screensaver-locker-program-xorg-111-and-up/ -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] [slock] kill slock with Ctrl+Alt+Multiply
On 01-22 18:06, Anselm R Garbe wrote: Having said all this, there is still another problem in slock. If you launch a client *after* slock has taken over (like over a SSH connection), the window will be managed and most likely appear on top of slock (the window won't receive any input though). I have actually used this to lock the screen of my main box and then start an mplayer from remote, producing a hacked kind of "sleep mode". I'd be totally cool with the view that this is a bug, not a feature, and remove it. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[dev] suckless vs. security? - Was: [slock] kill slock with Ctrl+Alt+Multiply
On 01-22 21:14, Eckehard Berns wrote: I don't think it's a good idea to add complexity to a suckless program for a _bug_ in X (that is kinda fixed already). This got me tinking: Is there a place in the suckless philosophy for security? (However one wants to define that). Small code base can't mean "insecurity". I for one, love suckless software, but I want "security" as a basic feature, too. I do want more complexity in slock to work around this (or another) keypad issue. And I want slock to stay on top no matter what other clients want. I also really like sic and ii, but without extra code for SSL, I won't use it. Has the general problem been discsussed before? -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[dev] [ii] announcing uii - usable irc it
Since the dev doesn't seem to be on this list, I though I'd share it: http://blog.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/uii-a-minimalist-irc-client https://github.com/erlehmann/uii synopsis uii is a wrapper for the minimalistic irc client irc it. if ii is not running and connected to a server, it will be started. uii uses iiinotify, a shell script that uses inotify to monitor irc directory. for messages not displayed in an existing uii instance, a notification is shown. usage - ./uii server [channel] [nickname] [password] to quit uii, press ^D; alternatively, press ^C twice or ^O, then q. to mark text or insert it using X11 copy and paste, hold shift. dependencies uii depends on busybox, ii, inotifywait, lsof, nohup, pgrep, rlwrap, sed, sh, splitvt and tput. iiinotify depends on notify-send and uii. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] [st] 0.2 is out
On 02-08 00:14, Aurélien Aptel wrote: As I said previously somewhere on the list, I've tagged the last changeset of the default branch as 0.2. Thanks! Care to update the website? http://st.suckless.org/ And add a post to the News section of http://suckless.org/? Also, please provide a Tarball-Link and Checksum in the announce mail. (Btw, looks like the website got its accouned overhaul.) -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] [st] 0.2 is out
On 02-08 00:14, Aurélien Aptel wrote: As I said previously somewhere on the list, I've tagged the last changeset of the default branch as 0.2. Checking it out for the first time since 0.1.1. I am running the same tmux session in both rxvt-unicode and st next to each other. The drawing speed of st does indeed feel better than before, but it's still way slower than rxvt in everything I have tried. This is one of the issues still holding me back from switching to st as my main terminal emulator. Do other terms have magic in their rendering code for extra speed? Second thing to notice is the font height. st displays six more lines than rxvt, with tmux padding them. I changed $FONT in config.h: -#define FONT "-*-*-medium-r-*-*-*-120-75-75-*-60-*-*" +#define FONT "-*-terminus-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*" But it has no effect. Where do I change this? Last, has anyone managed to adjust the transparency patch to this version? http://lists.suckless.org/dev/1009/6046.html https://gist.github.com/1432900 -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] [st] 0.2 is out
On 02-08 09:39, Benjamin R. Haskell wrote: rxvt-unicode uses the wonderful optimization of not really caring whether everything gets displayed. I don't know if every one of those output lines is rendered on screen once. But it doesn't need to, since I can't read it anyways, no matetr if it takes 1, 3 or the 28 seconds takes here. What's more important is that everything is in the scrollback, which always seems to be the case, even in rxvt. (Although I consider this bad style. If you really need 10k lines and want to look at them, that's what less is for.) So I don't see the problem with rxvt's way of things. Why not do it? #define FONT "-*-terminus-medium-r-*-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-*-*" Using my shandard 12 doesn't change the behavior. It's not the font size, since width is ok, it's just the height is slightly less than in rxvt and I think dwm status bar, too. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] [st] 0.2 is out
On 02-08 10:25, Benjamin R. Haskell wrote: As Aurélien pointed out, `st` at least behaves similarly (if not identically). Didn't realize what hg rev I was on on that machine. Prior test was w/ 187. With current non-xft tip (rev 228), I get similar results: 0.2s wall time. st-0.2: 30.719 rxv-unicode:0.079 Using "radeon" driver, but this should be irrelevant, right? -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[dev] Wayland
"Programming X-Windows is like trying to find the square root of pi using Roman numerals" - Anon http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Wayland-Beyond-X-1432046.html?view=print Has anyone managed to run it yet? Opinions? -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] Re: [st] 0.2.1 is out
On 02-16 19:28, Aurélien Aptel wrote: I'll try to keep the xft branch up to date. I may even merge it by designing a generic font interface. These two seperate branches are inconvenient and seem to cause more work for everyone involved. Can't we just discuss and conclude what the way to go is and either drop one or make it generic? -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] Impending surf release
On 07-10 16:39, Troels Henriksen wrote: I intend to release surf 0.5 on Thursday, so if anyone's working on patches, now's the time to finish them. It's in hg: http://hg.suckless.org/surf/rev/5596ef69d425 But not on the website yet: http://surf.suckless.org/ -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] [ANN] CGD - Ultra-minimalist HTTP and FastCGI wrapper for CGI programs.
On 09-20 21:50, Džen wrote: What's the reason behind using nginx anyway? I guess it would be simpler to write an own http web server with go's http lib. Or am I wrong? What about this one? http://www.fefe.de/gatling/ -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] Hall of shame of the web
On 09-29 23:18, Christoph Lohmann wrote: What would you think about some kind of hall of shame for websites that waste most resources? Indexing the parts of the web that don't suck is less work. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] slock 1.0 color patch
On 03-17 18:04, Anselm R Garbe wrote: I implemented a color patch for slock similar to Joseph Iacobucci's patch but for slock 1.0. You can configure the two colors in config.mk in the CPPFLAGS. Thanks, as mentioned earlier, I like this idea and applied it to slock. It will become part of mainstream slock starting with 1.1 I've been using this ever since it was posted here. Unfortunately, 1.0 is still the current release, without it. Any plan to release a 1.1 with this? -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] [st] new features
How about a new release? ("release often"..)
On 10-28 13:40, Christoph Lohmann wrote:
Some new features are in st tip:
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Re: [dev] [st] 0.3 release
On 11-02 20:12, Christoph Lohmann wrote: * Xft and Fontcache is now used to draw fonts. http://st.suckless.org/ still sais: "fonts (you can use xfontsel(1) to generate a valid XLFD)" I guess this is deprecated. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] [surf] adblocking
On 11-20 08:08, Andrew Hills wrote: Would it be possible to disable requests made by the page to any address outside the page's domain? I do exactly this in Firefox with the "RequestPolicy". It needs a little whitelisting (like CDNs), but I really love it. It doesn't really solve the ad problem though, only Facebook/Webbug/IFrame-Nonsense. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[dev] [st] zsh and del/pos1 key
For me, in st (current git) the Pos1 and Del keys don't work in an interactive zsh. End and Backspace work though. In bash, Pos1 works, but Del doesn't. In vim, everything works. Can anyone reproduce this? Any hint on how to debug/fix? -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] [st] zsh and del/pos1 key
Roberto E. Vargas Caballero: http://lists.suckless.org/dev/1212/13848.html This works for Del in bash. But it doesn't fix Pos1 or Del in zsh. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] [st] Back Color Erase
Christoph Lohmann: there is now a patch in st which implements BCE (Back Color Erase). Nice! Is there a current transparency patch? -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] [slcon] Call for Papers 2013
markus schnalke: Please provide audio/video recordings for the part of the community that is not able to be there. I agree, that would be awesome. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
