[dev] [st] Full screen without menu bar?

2017-02-07 Thread doug livesey
Hi -- is it possible to get st to run full screen without the menu bar?
Like when I press F11 when I'm running gnome-terminal.
(I'm running Linux Mint, btw.)
Thanks,
   Doug.



Re: [dev] [st] Full screen without menu bar?

2017-02-07 Thread doug livesey
I'd have to figure out how to code that patch, first! :)
I totally see the sense in keeping the concerns separated between an
app and a window manager.
However, everything I've tried so far hasn't enabled me to run st in
full-screen mode, so it's looking like the window manager doesn't
enable full screen without the app enabling it.
Thanks for your considered response,
   Doug.

On 7 February 2017 at 08:45, Raphaël Proust  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Typically, window decorations are for the window manager to handle.
> Although applications can help (e.g., by providing shortcuts and
> special full-screen modes), I think that the separation of concerns
> (between the roles of the wm and the applications) is considered more
> suckless. As a result, I don't think such code would appear in the
> core st. You are welcome to make a patch available to the community.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> On 7 February 2017 at 08:00, doug livesey  wrote:
>> Hi -- is it possible to get st to run full screen without the menu bar?
>> Like when I press F11 when I'm running gnome-terminal.
>> (I'm running Linux Mint, btw.)
>> Thanks,
>>Doug.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> __
> Raphaël Proust
>



Re: [dev] [st] Full screen without menu bar?

2017-02-07 Thread doug livesey
I shall have a play with that after work, thankyou!

On 7 February 2017 at 11:14, Markus Teich  wrote:
> Heyho doug,
>
> doug livesey wrote:
>> I'd have to figure out how to code that patch, first! :)
>
> Nope, just use that[0] patch.
>
>> However, everything I've tried so far hasn't enabled me to run st in
>> full-screen mode, so it's looking like the window manager doesn't enable full
>> screen without the app enabling it.
>
> After applying the patch just switch to monocle mode and toggle the bar. I use
> it all the time, also for videos. I don't like application level fullscreen
> modes.
>
> Use the force, read the source!
> --Markus
>
>
> 0: http://dwm.suckless.org/patches/noborder



Re: [dev] [st] Full screen without menu bar?

2017-02-08 Thread doug livesey
Hi -- I tried applying the patch in the simplest way (from some
instructions I googled up), but it didn't know what file to apply the
patch to.
I suspect I'm operating with rather incomplete knowledge!
Could you advise me on how to apply the patch to the st project?
(Does it maybe need to be done in a broader context of a suckless project?)
Oh, and I couldn't find any mention of resizehints in the code to set
to false, so I think I've misunderstood there, too.
Thanks, and sorry to be spamming with all these questions.
   Doug.

On 8 February 2017 at 00:38, Markus Teich  wrote:
> Greg Reagle wrote:
>> If it were possible to get st to do the same thing, such a feature would
>> probably not be included in the main repository due to the preference for
>> small fast and simple that characterizes suckless programs.
>
> Heyho,
>
> I agree. The main point here is imho that dwm already has a fullscreen "mode"
> (like I described in my other mails), so why should we add it to our X clients
> as well? It would be redundant.
>
> --Markus
>



Re: [dev] [st] Full screen without menu bar?

2017-02-08 Thread doug livesey
Fair enough, cheers for the help so far.

On 8 February 2017 at 14:44, Greg Reagle  wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2017, at 04:15, doug livesey wrote:
>> Hi -- I tried applying the patch in the simplest way (from some
>> instructions I googled up), but it didn't know what file to apply the
>> patch to.
>> I suspect I'm operating with rather incomplete knowledge!
>> Could you advise me on how to apply the patch to the st project?
>> (Does it maybe need to be done in a broader context of a suckless
>> project?)
>> Oh, and I couldn't find any mention of resizehints in the code to set
>> to false, so I think I've misunderstood there, too.
>> Thanks, and sorry to be spamming with all these questions.
>>Doug.
>
> Way too vague.  You're not going to get much help from this list with
> that kind of a message.  Step by step, specific details, version
> numbers, exact error messages.  Put as much effort as you can into
> writing your request for help.  Very few people on this list have the
> time or even inclination to do your work for you.
>



Re: [dev] [st] Full screen without menu bar?

2017-02-08 Thread doug livesey
Okay, cheers man -- I'll get back to this when I have some more time
to read up fully on the project and how it all hangs together.
Thanks again,
   Doug.

On 8 February 2017 at 15:41, Markus Teich  wrote:
> doug livesey wrote:
>> Could you advise me on how to apply the patch to the st project?  (Does it
>> maybe need to be done in a broader context of a suckless project?) Oh, and I
>> couldn't find any mention of resizehints in the code to set to false, so I
>> think I've misunderstood there, too.
>
> Heyho,
>
> As you should have noticed from the URL the patch is for dwm. The resizehints
> config is also for dwm.
>
> We also have documentation about how to patch[0], so please do your research
> next time.
>
> --Markus
>
>
> 0: http://suckless.org/hacking
>



Re: [dev] [st] Full screen without menu bar?

2017-02-12 Thread doug livesey
Ah, so the patch is for an earlier commit?
Which maybe explains why my attempt failed by not finding the file to patch.
Although I rather suspect the patch is for the window system which
then needs to be compiled with st.
However, I appreciate that people on this list are pretty busy -- in
fact I understand all too well! :)
Which is why I'm putting this on a back burner until I have the time
to investigate the suckless site and links fully. Until I have all the
proper context, I'd just end up spamming the mailing list for
step-by-step instructions.
Thanks for your response, though, that gives me another angle of
attack when I come back to this (which I will).
Cheers,
   Doug.