Re: [dev] wmii can save settings on close, can't it ?
Quoting Yannic Haupenthal : Hm ok, i get it now ;) I have the same problem, so i wrote in my wmiirc (in the Tagging Rules section): /Firefox.*/ -> 3 /Thunderbird.*/ -> 2 /Pidgin.*/ -> 4 /alsamixer.*/ -> 0 /weechat.*/ -> 4 Ok, looks like I'll have to learn tagging rules next.. And yes, i know that Firefox and Thunderbird sucks ;) yeah, but sometimes you need them, and nothing the sucks less.. works ;-) At system start i run a little script: thunderbird & &>/dev/null firefox & &>/dev/null pidgin & &>/dev/null urxvt -T "weechat" -e sh -c "weechat-curses"& &>/dev/null urxvt -T "alsamixer" -e sh -c "alsamixer"& &>/dev/null /dev/nul starts the app and then kills the xterm ? So there is every program on a predefined window. ohhh... I'm starting to get it... wow! Is this is a solution for you? I think (if I understand correctly) that this solution will be perfect. Thanks so much, It made me sad to think I was going to have to leave my new-found-friend; wmii. I will probably be tugging your chain down the road, djp
Re: [dev] wmii can save settings on close, can't it ?
Quoting Suraj Kurapati : On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:15 AM, David J Patrick wrote: I can take me a couple of days to get everything arranged just nice, it like the best work-environment I have ever used, and if the set-up can't be saved, then there's really no point. Why not suspend/hibernate your machine to the swap partition (on your USB disk)? I've used this approach for some months now and haven't bothered about persistent "sessions" ever since. It also helps me save power consumption at night, when I'm not using the computer. and when it DOES have to be restarted, you lose MONTHS of configuration.. no thanks. I'm also planning on using it for a USBkey environment, so the re-start is a given. djp
Re: [dev] wmii can save settings on close, can't it ?
Quoting Yannic Haupenthal : I have the same problem, so i wrote in my wmiirc (in the Tagging Rules section): /Firefox.*/ -> 3 /Thunderbird.*/ -> 2 /Pidgin.*/ -> 4 /alsamixer.*/ -> 0 /weechat.*/ -> 4 so this pre-defines where various apps will start ? (yes, I'll read tthe documentation) And yes, i know that Firefox and Thunderbird sucks ;) and we both still use them ! At system start i run a little script: thunderbird & &>/dev/null firefox & &>/dev/null pidgin & &>/dev/null urxvt -T "weechat" -e sh -c "weechat-curses"& &>/dev/null urxvt -T "alsamixer" -e sh -c "alsamixer"& &>/dev/null So there is every program on a predefined window. Is this is a solution for you? In the right direction. So if I may re-iterate, pre-define where apps will open, using the tagging scripts, and then open each one from another script, and voila ? I /will/ need to lern more about dem tags. here's a riddle or two; How do I include the column, and the order within the column, of each item ? Is there any way to also direct the window-mode (stack, default, maximum) for each column ? I know this is asking a lot, but this functionality is make-or-break for me, and I'll bet important for may other potential-users who sometimes turn their computers off. thanks again, djp
Re: [dev] wmii can save settings on close, can't it ?
Quoting Kris Maglione : On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:15:24AM -0500, David J Patrick wrote: I'd pay someone to do it, but there's not a chance in hell I will be able to myself (time and coding skills in short supply) That can certainly be arranged, if it's that important to you. now ew're getting somewhere :) How much work do do you suppose it would be to make a script that saved you entire wmii session ? And would you have a guestimate on how much money that would translate to ? djp
Re: [dev] wmii can save settings on close, can't it ?
Quoting Kris Maglione : No, that's not possible (except perhaps to launch them in the right order and hope they open in that order again). well hang on a minute there. wmii, as I understand it, builds a whole virtual file tree to manage every aspect of the session... couldn't that virtual file tree just be saved and then reloaded ? I know this is asking a lot, but this functionality is make-or-break for me, and I'll bet important for may other potential-users who sometimes turn their computers off. Yes, indeed it's asking a lot. Can I ask what other window manager provides anything approaching that functionality? ..uhh yes, I think so.. can't gnome and kede "save sessions" ? yes, I think they can! It also seems a bit superfluous. The whole point of dynamic window managers is to make static layouts unimportant. I've never missed those kinds of features. Well you and I have different use-cases then. I'm trying to build a "control centre" for my business, using wmii tabs and windows arranged with various applications and associated files. These views can consist of a dozen elements per "tag" and the consistancy of layout is important. I'm using primarily cli and ncurses apps on the super-light-weight distro, Slitaz, and plan to have the whole thing on a bootable USB stick, so rebooting is a given. This is not an average desk-top, by a long stretch. Just because you don't care for it, doesn't mean my application is superfluous. djp
Re: [dev] wmii can save settings on close, can't it ?
Quoting Yannic Haupenthal : Are you sure? Because I tried yesterday to build exactly this. And you can use wmiir ls /client/ or wmiir read event for this function, then it seems, that every application gets the same notations ... What about saving and reloading the entire wmiir virtual file tree ? djp
[dev] suckless tools should be packaged for Slitaz
Slitas is a very small, very smart built-from-scratch linux distro. It features some surprisingly good ideas, is active and in use, and is very much the sort of distro that would "resonate" with the sorts of folks who like tools that suckless. Slitaz's package management is very simple and very clever, and is based on the murcurial CVS. I have been probing Slitaz users and developers of this up-and-coming distro, to see if they like wmii (for example) but they are not familiar with your work, even though it is very much in line with your philosophy, I would suggest that one of the suckless devs might look into it and step up as the package maintainer for Slitaz. These are your people ;-) djp
Re: [dev] suckless tools should be packaged for Slitaz
Quoting d...@linuxcaffe.ca: I would suggest that one of the suckless devs might look into it and step up as the package maintainer for Slitaz. At the moment, the default wm for Slitaz is OpenBox, and it also ships with jwm. I think wmii should be the third default option. djp
Re: [dev] suckless tools should be packaged for Slitaz
Quoting Jacob Todd : http://sta.li wow would you call that a distro ? do you run a daily system on it ? (probably stupid question) can the method/code be adopted within another distro ? how is it maintained ? is it good for perhaps an embedded or appliance application ? is it good for serving up runnable file-systems ? would you use it to make a single image that contains all of the working suckless tools in one distributable, runs anywhere form ? just asking, djp
Re: [dev] wmii can save settings on close, can't it ?
Quoting Jonas Domeij : Thing is, wmii is kind of supposed to be inconsistent in that way, instead allowing you to quickly change layout & position for different usage patterns. Perhaps you should be looking for a static tiling wm instead, if I understand you correctly. Ion[1] seems to fit your usage pattern better, might be worth a try. .. y'know.. you may be on to something.. I grok wmii keyboarding, though, and that's worth a lot. thank for the perspective, djp [1] http://www.modeemi.fi/~tuomov/ion/
