Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

[Stefan Mark]

On 04.05.2011 23:00, Rob wrote:
> And apply the patch. It might not apply cleanly since I diff'd from my
> heavily patched dwm, so you'll have to do some shuftying.
> 
There are also two other transparency patches available at the dwm site:
http://dwm.suckless.org/patches/transparency (configurable by rules)
and
http://dwm.suckless.org/patches/defaulttransparency (manual setting)

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

[Anselm R Garbe]

On 6 May 2011 08:28, Jacob Todd  wrote:
> This thread is no longer fun. Take this crap offlist.

I second this.

This thread has become longer than the wmii source code nearly ;)

And it is not really hard to conclude that translucent terminals are
bad for your eyes. After a short phase of being enthusiastic about the
look, you will concentrate on real work hopefully and then it just
feels wrong.

Translucent terminals were used at times to _mislead_ Windows or Mac
people during the 90s because their environment didn't provide such
"feature" (well for a good reason, but that didn't stop the Stockholm
syndrome to develop).

Having said this, I fully understand the metaphor of AIDS in this
respect. The idea of translucent terminals spread like a genital
desease.

But anyhow, nothing too fancy to discuss in such a long thread. I have
more important stuff to do.

Cheers,
Anselm

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

[Aurélien Aptel]

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:18 AM, Nathan Neff  wrote:
> 2.5) Easy / sensible defaults.  Sorry but Emacs-style "shortcut keys"
> are an oxymoron.  Any window manager
> that uses Emacs "Key Chords" is immediately disqualified.  With wmii you 
> switch
> between windows and tags with 2 keystrokes max.  It's a no-brainer.

The default shortcut to close a window is really bad. Something used
that often shouldn't be as complex as Mod-Shift-C.

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

[ilf]

On 05-06 09:33, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
This thread is no longer fun. Take this crap offlist. 

This thread has become longer than the wmii source code nearly ;)


http://xkcd.com/386/

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ilf

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Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

[Pierre Chapuis]

On Wed, 4 May 2011 21:30:28 +0200, Uriel wrote:


In any case, Go's own DNS resolver is still there, and for example on
ARM by default it still bypasses the libc for everything.


Not for long.

http://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=1166

--
Pierre 'catwell' Chapuis

[dev] dwm

[M1kes]

hi!

there are a lot of important things from wmii which cant be found in dwm 
anymore..
for example the stacked/maximised-mode or the ability to change the positions of
frames in a tag via Alt+Shift+[h/j/k/l]. I was thinking about to change to dwm 
but
without this main-features the dayly use of a wm is much more tedious.
___
Schon gehört? WEB.DE hat einen genialen Phishing-Filter in die
Toolbar eingebaut! http://produkte.web.de/go/toolbar

Re: [dev] dwm

[Jacob Todd]

There's a patch that provides that functionality. Check the wiki.
On May 6, 2011 8:56 AM,  wrote:
> hi!
>
> there are a lot of important things from wmii which cant be found in dwm
anymore..
> for example the stacked/maximised-mode or the ability to change the
positions of
> frames in a tag via Alt+Shift+[h/j/k/l]. I was thinking about to change to
dwm but
> without this main-features the dayly use of a wm is much more tedious.
> ___
> Schon gehört? WEB.DE hat einen genialen Phishing-Filter in die
> Toolbar eingebaut! http://produkte.web.de/go/toolbar
>

Re: [dev] dwm

[M1kes]

hm well that should be main-features of a dynamic-window-manager andnot just available pver a "patch"..these were some of the main reasons Iliked wmii..Von: "Jacob Todd" Gesendet: 06.05.2011 14:57:37An: "dev mail list" Betreff: Re: [dev] dwmThere's a patch that provides that functionality. Check the wiki.On May 6, 2011 8:56 AM,  wrote:> hi!>> there are a lot of important things from wmii which cant be found in dwm anymore..> for example the stacked/maximised-mode or the ability to change the positions of> frames in a tag via Alt+Shift+[h/j/k/l]. I was thinking about to change to dwm but> without this main-features the dayly use of a wm is much more tedious.> ___> Schon gehört? WEB.DE hat einen genialen Phishing-Filter in die> Toolbar eingebaut! http://produkte.web.de/go/toolbar>  Schon gehört? WEB.DE hat einen genialen Phishing-Filter in die   Toolbar eingebaut! http://produkte.web.de/go/toolbar

Re: [dev] dwm

[Petr Sabata]

On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 03:26:11PM +0200, m1...@web.de wrote:
>  style='font-size:12px;background-color:#FF;font-family:Verdana, Arial, 
> sans-serif;'>hm well that should be main-features of a dynamic-window-manager 
> andnot just available pver a "patch"..these were some of the 
> main reasons Iliked wmii..Von: "Jacob Todd" 
> Gesendet: 06.05.2011 
> 14:57:37An: "dev mail list" 
> Betreff: Re: [dev] 
> dwmThere's a patch that provides that functionality. Check the 
> wiki.On May 6, 2011 8:56 AM, < href="mailto:m1...@web.de";>m1...@web.de> wrote:> 
> hi!>> there are a lot of important things from wmii which 
> cant be found in dwm anymore..> for example the 
> stacked/maximised-mode or the ability to change the positions of> 
> frames in a tag via Alt+Shift+[h/j/k/l]. I was thinking about to change to 
> dwm but> without this main-features the dayly use of a wm is much 
> more tedious.> 
> ___> Schon 
> gehört? http://WEB.DE";>WEB.DE hat einen genialen 
> Phishing-Filter in die> Toolbar eingebaut!  href="http://produkte.web.de/go/toolbar";>http://produkte.web.de/go/toolbar>    cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0"> src="https://img.ui-portal.de/p.gif"; width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" 
> />Schon gehört? WEB.DE hat einen genialen 
> Phishing-Filter in die   Toolbar eingebaut!  href="http://produkte.web.de/go/toolbar";>http://produkte.web.de/go/toolbar
> 
> 

Oh that hurts...

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Re: [dev] dwm

[Anselm R Garbe]

This mailinglist is plain text.

I'm looking into mlmmj to let html mails bounce.

Cheers,
Anselm

On 6 May 2011 15:26,  wrote:
>
> hm well that should be main-features of a dynamic-window-manager and
> not just available pver a "patch"..these were some of the main reasons I
> liked wmii..
>
> 
> Von: "Jacob Todd" 
> Gesendet: 06.05.2011 14:57:37
> An: "dev mail list" 
> Betreff: Re: [dev] dwm
>
> There's a patch that provides that functionality. Check the wiki.
>
> On May 6, 2011 8:56 AM,  wrote:
> > hi!
> >
> > there are a lot of important things from wmii which cant be found in dwm 
> > anymore..
> > for example the stacked/maximised-mode or the ability to change the 
> > positions of
> > frames in a tag via Alt+Shift+[h/j/k/l]. I was thinking about to change to 
> > dwm but
> > without this main-features the dayly use of a wm is much more tedious.
> > ___
> > Schon gehört? WEB.DE hat einen genialen Phishing-Filter in die
> > Toolbar eingebaut! http://produkte.web.de/go/toolbar
> >
>
>
>
> Schon gehört? WEB.DE hat einen genialen Phishing-Filter in die
> Toolbar eingebaut! http://produkte.web.de/go/toolbar

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

[hiro]

dillo is better than netsurf even though it uses fltk.
For everything else on x86 you can use an old static opera (newer also
want qt iirc).

Netsurf is a pile of shit. Does nobody use slow CPUs and RAM < 128Mb any more???

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

[hiro]

The very monolithic busybox doesn't seem to fit with the rest in my
view. Couldn't you possibly use stuff from 9base for this?

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

[Kurt H Maier]

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:47 AM, errno  wrote:
> Uriel or Kurt - care to explain why you care so deeply about other peoples'
> software habits? And do you really feel that it's like your duty or function
> or purpose to rid the world of... transparent terminals or something?

This is the sort of shit that ruined wmii, for the record.

If stupidity goes unchallenged, it gets institutionalized, and then
you have Lennart Poettering.


-- 
# Kurt H Maier

Re: [dev] dwm

[Kurt H Maier]

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:26 AM,  wrote:
>
> hm well that should be main-features of a dynamic-window-manager and
> not just available pver a "patch"..these were some of the main reasons I
> liked wmii..

Incorrect.  Your desires are based on a misunderstanding of dwm.  You
have a 'layout' (this is floating, tiled, monocle, etc) and then you
have 'tags'.  Tags are used to determine which set of clients to
display.  Layouts are used to determine how displayed clients are
arranged.  Reordering windows within a layout is pointless, because
when you are displaying two tags, and then toggle a third, what
determines in which order the newly-displayed clients are arranged?
If you only display one tag at a time, you're not using dwm properly.
If you want wmii, you know where to find it.  dwm's current interface
is basically sound, and while people temporarily patch it up to make
it act like a regular 'workspaces' window manager, most people I know
eventually stop doing that as they realize how superior dwm's
interface is.  There isn't really another program out there that has
this functionality in such a clean implementation -- dwm is the
standard dynamic window manager.

--
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Re: [dev] Sup and dmc

[hiro]

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:38 PM, pancake  wrote:
> You may like starting to play with sdb.
>
> http://hg.youterm.com/sdb
>
> Its a nosql-like (key-value db) based on cdb, but with a decent api and 
> aiming to provide a memcache network protocol. Its about 1000 LOC atm.
>
> Contribs are welcome

I don't really understand. sdb is essentially a ramfs without folders,
but hidden behind a CLI?

I would either have to run stuff on my server (128MB RAM) or use web
services like gmail which I don't have to pay for.

And memcached seems to me like a complicated nontransparent cache with
tcp/ip interface.

What is all this stuff good for?

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

[Al Gest]

On 6 May 2011 15:13, Kurt H Maier  wrote:
> If stupidity goes unchallenged, it gets institutionalized, and then
> you have Lennart Poettering.

So why do you get so agitated when people challenge yours?

Re: [dev] Sup and dmc

[pancake]

On 05/06/11 16:28, hiro wrote:

On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:38 PM, pancake  wrote:

You may like starting to play with sdb.

http://hg.youterm.com/sdb

Its a nosql-like (key-value db) based on cdb, but with a decent api and aiming 
to provide a memcache network protocol. Its about 1000 LOC atm.

Contribs are welcome

I don't really understand. sdb is essentially a ramfs without folders,
but hidden behind a CLI?

it's a hashtable. why you try to explain such a simple concept in that 
complicated way?

I would either have to run stuff on my server (128MB RAM) or use web
services like gmail which I don't have to pay for.


i dont get the point. maybe you need to get a job to earn some money.

And memcached seems to me like a complicated nontransparent cache with
tcp/ip interface.

complicated? is the most simple implementation for storing data. why non 
transparent?


it's rather simple.

What is all this stuff good for?

you have O(1) times to access the information, you can build any data 
structure on top of a keyvalue database, you can use it from shell, as a 
library from C or networkedly using netcat or a memcache client.


it's stupidly simple to replicate memcache-like servers and it's 
lightweight.


what i did in sdb is a hashtable (memory) database which syncs to disk 
using a slightly modified version of cdb. it is just faster than any 
other implementation out there.the only problem is that the disk 
database is always fully replaced atomically. this means that if you 
have zillions of rows it will take some seconds to write to disk instead 
of just updating what has been modified.


You can split up the key space with namespaces, so you can create a 
pseudo-tree structure like in cassandra, and get better scaling times. 
or use different databases for each key group.. and get faster times for 
listing the whole database.


Also key expiration times are not yet implemented..but it would be just 
simple to do.


I also write a vala interface for it, this means that if you use 
'valaswig' you can just build bindings for sdb for python, ruby, perl, 
lua, java, ... but that's not really suckless at all :P


--pancake

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

[Jakub Lach]

May 2011 15:59 hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> For everything else on x86 you can use an old static opera  (newer also
> want qt iirc).

Nope. While quite big and and packed with features, new Opera can 
use plain X, and does not force cups, gtk, qt, dbus, hal etc

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

[Kurt H Maier]

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Al Gest  wrote:
> So why do you get so agitated when people challenge yours?

Is this supposed to be clever, or are you trying to say something


-- 
# Kurt H Maier

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

[hiro]

Because it's linked in or because it doesn't use it?

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Jakub Lach  wrote:
> May 2011 15:59 hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> For everything else on x86 you can use an old static opera  (newer also
>> want qt iirc).
>
> Nope. While quite big and and packed with features, new Opera can
> use plain X, and does not force cups, gtk, qt, dbus, hal etc
>
>

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

[Greg KH]

On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 10:13:31AM -0400, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:47 AM, errno  wrote:
> > Uriel or Kurt - care to explain why you care so deeply about other peoples'
> > software habits? And do you really feel that it's like your duty or function
> > or purpose to rid the world of... transparent terminals or something?
> 
> This is the sort of shit that ruined wmii, for the record.
> 
> If stupidity goes unchallenged, it gets institutionalized, and then
> you have Lennart Poettering.

*plonk*

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

[Kurt H Maier]

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:47 AM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Because it's linked in or because it doesn't use it?

Because most of it is compiled statically and the bits that are not
are shipped in the tarball and installed in-tree.


-- 
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Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

[pancake]

new opera have its own widget library. but its closed source. which sucks.

On 05/06/11 16:46, Jakub Lach wrote:

May 2011 15:59 hiro<23h...@googlemail.com>  wrote:


For everything else on x86 you can use an old static opera  (newer also
want qt iirc).

Nope. While quite big and and packed with features, new Opera can
use plain X, and does not force cups, gtk, qt, dbus, hal etc

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

[hiro]

Of course it sucks, but everything sucks less than webkit.

About dillo again: last time I talked about fltk everyone here wanted
to kill me and I had to change my phone number. Is this just because
of C++ or are there other reasons I've overseen?

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

[Al Gest]

On 6 May 2011 15:39, Kurt H Maier  wrote:
> Is this supposed to be clever, or are you trying to say something

I thought the implication was quite clear, my mistake.

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

[hiro]

When uriel submits 6 posts in succession you can be sure there's a
steaming pile of shit in that thread.

xkdc links in tech arguments are like Hitler references in politics.

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

[Kurt H Maier]

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:04 AM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Of course it sucks, but everything sucks less than webkit.
>
> About dillo again: last time I talked about fltk everyone here wanted
> to kill me and I had to change my phone number. Is this just because
> of C++ or are there other reasons I've overseen?

Is that insufficient?  The van will arrive shortly to take you to be
re-educated.


-- 
# Kurt H Maier

Re: [dev] dwm

[Anders Andersson]

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:50 PM,   wrote:
> hi!
>
> there are a lot of important things from wmii which cant be found in dwm 
> anymore..
> for example the stacked/maximised-mode or the ability to change the positions 
> of
> frames in a tag via Alt+Shift+[h/j/k/l]. I was thinking about to change to 
> dwm but
> without this main-features the dayly use of a wm is much more tedious.
> ___
> Schon gehört? WEB.DE hat einen genialen Phishing-Filter in die
> Toolbar eingebaut! http://produkte.web.de/go/toolbar

So keep using wmii, what's wrong with it? Why change if you expect the
new software to be the same as the old?

And what's with the german ads?

[dev] Tabbed unmaintained?

[Christoph Lohmann]

Hello comrades,

as the problem arose again on IRC: Is tabbed still maintained?

There have been multiple patches to add a way to make tabbed
a common tool, which allows the user to specify the to be run
command on execution. Why wasn't any of those patches applied?

The patches were [0] and [1].

Who is the maintainer of tabbed anyway?


Sincerely,

Christoph Lohmann

[0] http://lists.suckless.org/dev/1009/6098.html
[1] http://lists.suckless.org/dev/1011/6305.html

Re: [dev] Tabbed unmaintained?

[Connor Lane Smith]

Hey,

On 6 May 2011 18:29, Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote:
> Who is the maintainer of tabbed anyway?

The developer used to be Enno Boland (gottox), but he doesn't seem to
have committed anything for almost a year.

> Is tabbed still maintained?

Considering the inactivity I would assume not.

I would happy to apply Stephen's patch, and take over as maintainer of
tabbed, if Enno and/or Anselm is happy with that.

Thanks,
cls

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

[hiro]

Someone without any knowledge of C or English will actually pick me up
with a small bus in a few hours. Must be coincidence I guess.

I'm asking because some of the core developers have been asking on
their mailing list what other fast and light toolkit to use. You know
I don't want to start a stupid war, but perhaps some of you should
tell them what you know?

Netsurf on my TV takes ages to load a *simple* page and opera - does
it run on MIPS?

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

[ilf]

On 05-06 17:04, hiro wrote:
last time I talked about fltk everyone here wanted to kill me and I 
had to change my phone number.


WTF.

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Re: [dev] dwm

[hiro]

Don't make me look at it!

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Petr Sabata  wrote:
> On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 03:26:11PM +0200, m1...@web.de wrote:
>> > style='font-size:12px;background-color:#FF;font-family:Verdana, Arial, 
>> sans-serif;'>hm well that should be main-features of a 
>> dynamic-window-manager andnot just available pver a 
>> "patch"..these were some of the main reasons Iliked 
>> wmii..Von: "Jacob 
>> Todd" Gesendet: 06.05.2011 
>> 14:57:37An: "dev mail list" 
>> Betreff: Re: [dev] 
>> dwmThere's a patch that provides that functionality. Check the 
>> wiki.On May 6, 2011 8:56 AM, <> href="mailto:m1...@web.de";>m1...@web.de> wrote:> 
>> hi!>> there are a lot of important things from wmii which 
>> cant be found in dwm anymore..> for example the 
>> stacked/maximised-mode or the ability to change the positions of> 
>> frames in a tag via Alt+Shift+[h/j/k/l]. I was thinking about to change to 
>> dwm but> without this main-features the dayly use of a wm is much 
>> more tedious.> 
>> ___> Schon 
>> gehört? http://WEB.DE";>WEB.DE hat einen genialen 
>> Phishing-Filter in die> Toolbar eingebaut! > href="http://produkte.web.de/go/toolbar";>http://produkte.web.de/go/toolbar>  >  cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0">> src="https://img.ui-portal.de/p.gif"; width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" 
>> />Schon gehört? WEB.DE hat einen genialen 
>> Phishing-Filter in die   Toolbar eingebaut! > href="http://produkte.web.de/go/toolbar";>http://produkte.web.de/go/toolbar
>> 
>>
>
> Oh that hurts...
>
> --
> Petr 'contyk' Sabata, Red Hat
>

Re: [dev] Tabbed unmaintained?

[Anselm R Garbe]

On 6 May 2011 19:59, Connor Lane Smith  wrote:
> I would happy to apply Stephen's patch, and take over as maintainer of
> tabbed, if Enno and/or Anselm is happy with that.

Just do it, if Enno complains, I buy him a beer ;)

Cheers,
Anselm

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

[Anselm R Garbe]

On 6 May 2011 17:13, Kurt H Maier  wrote:
> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:04 AM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Of course it sucks, but everything sucks less than webkit.
>>
>> About dillo again: last time I talked about fltk everyone here wanted
>> to kill me and I had to change my phone number. Is this just because
>> of C++ or are there other reasons I've overseen?
>
> Is that insufficient?  The van will arrive shortly to take you to be
> re-educated.

Hahaha. Guys, I feel it as well, the summer is nearly there ;)

Cheers,
Anselm

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

[pancake]

Is the distance to the sun affecting in some way the mind of "people" in this 
mailing list?

On 06/05/2011, at 20:33, Anselm R Garbe  wrote:

> On 6 May 2011 17:13, Kurt H Maier  wrote:
>> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:04 AM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> Of course it sucks, but everything sucks less than webkit.
>>> 
>>> About dillo again: last time I talked about fltk everyone here wanted
>>> to kill me and I had to change my phone number. Is this just because
>>> of C++ or are there other reasons I've overseen?
>> 
>> Is that insufficient?  The van will arrive shortly to take you to be
>> re-educated.
> 
> Hahaha. Guys, I feel it as well, the summer is nearly there ;)
> 
> Cheers,
> Anselm
> 

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

[hiro]

Spot on, it's because of the Retinol. Sun rays are coming through the
planks more frequently these days :)

Re: [dev] Tabbed unmaintained?

[Enno Boland (Gottox)]

Hi!

If you're willing to maintain tabbed, feel free. Unfortunally, I'm
kept busy with my studies. And it would be really a shame to keep this
software inactive.

I'm still willing to support the development. But as it become clear
over the last few month that I'm not able to keep track the list, I
believe it's a good solution to give away some responsibility :)

Anyway, besides of that... Where is my beer? ;)

regards

Enno

2011/5/6 Connor Lane Smith :
> Hey,
>
> On 6 May 2011 18:29, Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote:
>> Who is the maintainer of tabbed anyway?
>
> The developer used to be Enno Boland (gottox), but he doesn't seem to
> have committed anything for almost a year.
>
>> Is tabbed still maintained?
>
> Considering the inactivity I would assume not.
>
> I would happy to apply Stephen's patch, and take over as maintainer of
> tabbed, if Enno and/or Anselm is happy with that.
>
> Thanks,
> cls
>
>

Re: [dev] Tabbed unmaintained?

[Connor Lane Smith]

On 6 May 2011 20:52, Enno Boland (Gottox)  wrote:
> If you're willing to maintain tabbed, feel free.

Okay; I've applied a modified version of Stephen's patch to tip.

I've kept my changes fairly minimal. I'm happy to port the drawing
code to draw.c (as in dmenu) if you like, which would fix a few
outstanding bugs present in both tabbed and dwm, but that's up to you
-- I don't want to make any unwelcome changes.

> Anyway, besides of that... Where is my beer? ;)

I'll let Anselm handle this one. :)

Thanks,
Connor

Re: [dev] Tabbed unmaintained?

[u]

Hi,

On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 09:52:07PM +0200, Enno Boland (Gottox) wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> If you're willing to maintain tabbed, feel free. Unfortunally, I'm
> kept busy with my studies. And it would be really a shame to keep this
> software inactive.
> 
> I'm still willing to support the development. But as it become clear
> over the last few month that I'm not able to keep track the list, I
> believe it's a good solution to give away some responsibility :)
> 
> Anyway, besides of that... Where is my beer? ;)
> 
> regards
> 
> Enno


1 Oettinger is on the way.
1 Adelskrone for 20h, for bringing this to our attention.

nash

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

[Jens Staal]

> For a web browser I would recommend NetSurf, not to be confused with
> surf (which is a shameful disgrace for the suckless project).
>


Not to re-ignite the (very) volatile feelings on this list lately, but
I just happened to stumble on a *nix port of abaco
(http://lab-fgb.com/abaco/). Considering the history of some other
Suckless projects (correct me if I am wrong), like wmii that evolved
from Rio, and which subsequently spawned dwm, perhaps a similar
evolution starting from abaco would be possible?

On the other hand - why discuss choice of a browser for an
experimental base system? As far as I see it, the browser is not part
of the base system and should be optional (as long as there is some
way, package manager or other solution) to to get it and to build it
from the base.

Re: [dev] [st] transparency - Was: [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

[Ammar James]

Oh god not this again.

Haters gonna hate.