Re: Whre is the _actuell_ test-Build

[Jim Jagielski]

https://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/Dev/

Note, these are unofficial Dev snapshot builds.

> On Jan 6, 2021, at 2:37 AM, Jörg Schmidt  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I had just promised Dave to link the latest test build of AOO 4.1.9 for MacOS 
> in the forum.
> 
> Can someone please give me the current link for this?
> 
> 
> 
> Jörg
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info - bug 127952

[Arrigo Marchiori]

Hello All,

On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 04:21:47PM -0500, Keith N. McKenna wrote:

> On 1/5/2021 12:46 PM, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:
> > Hello All,
> > 
> > On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 02:42:47PM +0100, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> > 
> >> Hi Jim,
> >>
> >> Am 05.01.21 um 14:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> >>>
>  On Jan 5, 2021, at 7:51 AM, Matthias Seidel  
>  wrote:
> 
>  Hi Jim,
> 
>  Am 05.01.21 um 13:29 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> > Should we try for a RC1 early next week?
>  I didn't hear any response regarding this issue yet:
> 
>  https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128413 
>  
> >>> This was handled by making fakeroot required:
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/4975252caf49bc46c383c6cef330cb927a635806
> >>
> >> OK, but did anyone confirm it with the test builds?
> > 
> > I can confirm that the Italian test builds in DEB format did not show
> > the problem.
> > 
> > I am confident that the bug was fixed by Jim's commit.
> > 
> >> And besides Keith I didn't see any tests on the Windows builds.
> > 
> > I tried to ask if there is a procedure to follow for testing [1].
> > Do we have any? I can follow it for the Italian builds.
> > 
> > Best regards.
> > 
> > References:
> > 
> > 1: 
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r54b17e3692b4207a1c9cdb132d836a7b803d2f65b3548529992c%40%3Cdev.openoffice.apache.org%3E
> > 
> Arrigio;
> 
> There is a lot of QA information on the wiki at:
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA. A lot of the information is either
> dated, or obsolete but there is still much good information that can be
> used.

I tried to look into it... and it's really too much for me at the
moment. I am sorry. If you have any ready-made checklist I will be
happy to go through it, but I could not make much sense out of the QA
section at the moment...

...except for the idea of verifying the bugs "changed after" the
release date. I used the date for 4.1.7 and I found this:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127952

The fun (?) fact is that:

 - the AOO 4.1.9 build for Windows by Matthias can open the file;

 - Jim's RPM builds for Linux _crash_ while opening that file;

 - My own build of trunk on Linux can open the file.

Do you think that this is worth more investigation before releasing
4.1.9?

Best regards,
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Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info - bug 127952

[Jim Jagielski]

> On Jan 6, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Arrigo Marchiori  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> 
> - My own build of trunk on Linux can open the file.
> 
> Do you think that this is worth more investigation before releasing
> 4.1.9?
> 

AFAICT, it is not a regression (trunk and 4.1.x are very different)... So I 
don't
think it should hold off 4.1.9-RC1 IMO

Re: AOO 4.1.9 Info - bug 127952

[Don Lewis]

On  6 Jan, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Jan 6, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Arrigo Marchiori  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> 
>> - My own build of trunk on Linux can open the file.
>> 
>> Do you think that this is worth more investigation before releasing
>> 4.1.9?
>> 
> 
> AFAICT, it is not a regression (trunk and 4.1.x are very different)... So I 
> don't
> think it should hold off 4.1.9-RC1 IMO

Agreed.  Who knows how long this would take to understand, fix, and
test.   In the meantime, there are a lot of Big Sur users waiting on
4.1.9.



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Re: When will the blog post be published?

[Marcus]

Am 06.01.21 um 08:45 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:

Am I overlooking the publication of the blog post or is it still unpublished?

imho:
Dave said it correctly in his email that the consensus was to publish the blog 
post first (and work on the new release in parallel):

"I think that there is consensus to publish the blog post by Monday.

After that it will be time to start preparing 4.1.9 release notes."


Or does that no longer apply? Why?


good question.

Is the text ready?
Patricia said already it's OK from the lanuage perspective.

However, I would exchange the last sentence as it really doesn't fit 
anymore:


"We wish you a peaceful year-end."

with

"We wish you a good and healthy start into the new year."

Any other comemnts?

Thanks

Marcus


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Re: Happy new year!

[Peter Kovacs]

Happy new Year every one!


On 01.01.21 23:06, Matthias Seidel wrote:

Happy new year to all of you!

Let's make 2021 a great year for Apache OpenOffice!

Regards,

    Matthias



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Re: When will the blog post be published?

[Peter Kovacs]

On 06.01.21 19:21, Marcus wrote:

Am 06.01.21 um 08:45 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
Am I overlooking the publication of the blog post or is it still 
unpublished?


imho:
Dave said it correctly in his email that the consensus was to publish 
the blog post first (and work on the new release in parallel):


"I think that there is consensus to publish the blog post by Monday.

After that it will be time to start preparing 4.1.9 release notes."


Or does that no longer apply? Why?


good question.

Is the text ready?
Patricia said already it's OK from the lanuage perspective.

However, I would exchange the last sentence as it really doesn't fit 
anymore:


"We wish you a peaceful year-end."

with

"We wish you a good and healthy start into the new year."

Any other comemnts?

Yea looks good. Lets get the message out.


Thanks

Marcus


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Re: Shall "dmake clean" also remove "$INPATH.pro" directories?

[Peter Kovacs]

Hi

On 01.01.21 18:41, Arrigo Marchiori wrote:

Dear All,

we recently fixed the "dmake clean" problem that deleted the whole
source tree, in certain condition, instead of the $INPATH directories
[1].

Shall the command also delete the "$INPATH.pro" directories?  On my
system, they are:

./main/apache-commons/unxlngx6.pro
./main/solenv/unxlngx6.pro
./main/stlport/unxlngx6.pro
./main/test/unxlngx6.pro
./main/mythes/unxlngx6.pro
./ext_libraries/apr/unxlngx6.pro
./ext_libraries/coinmp/unxlngx6.pro
./ext_libraries/gtest/unxlngx6.pro
./ext_libraries/apr-util/unxlngx6.pro
...and many more.

If anyone can confirm this would be a desirable behavior, I can fix it
in the trunk branch. I am still struggling to understand the build
system.


removing this bit is desirable. I do not want to claim I understand it, 
but I what happens is that each module (apache-commons, solenv, stport, ...)


will be "independently" build in its folder. In the end there is a 
deliverabe step which copies everything into the final structure.


The Idea behind this construct is to speed up development time. Lets say 
you want to work on one module. Then youcreate a complete build of 
OpenOffice.


Afterwards you CD into your module you want to work on, chenge your 
stuff, and then simply rebuild only the module. However since the 
dependants may break


the build is more a pragmatic approach to the long build times instead. 
Just think in the past they were even longer.


Check incompatible and compatible builds on 
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO for 
more details.



HTH

Peter

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RE: Whre is the _actuell_ test-Build

[Jörg Schmidt]

Hello, 

> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Jagielski [mailto:j...@jagunet.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2021 12:35 PM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Whre is the _actuell_ test-Build
> 
> https://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/Dev/
> 
> Note, these are unofficial Dev snapshot builds.

OK, I'll point that out. The info in the forum is here now:
https://de.openoffice.info/viewtopic.php?p=293189#p293189


Jörg



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Intent to roll AOO 4.1.9-RC1 builds

[Jim Jagielski]

Matthias and I will be starting our AOO 4.1.9-RC1 builds over
the weekend for testing by the start of next week, hopefully.

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Re: Intent to roll AOO 4.1.9-RC1 builds

[Leonard Fogli]

Ok

El mié., 6 de enero de 2021 2:08 p. m., Jim Jagielski 
escribió:

> Matthias and I will be starting our AOO 4.1.9-RC1 builds over
> the weekend for testing by the start of next week, hopefully.
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Re: When will the blog post be published?

[Marcus]

Am 06.01.21 um 19:41 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

On 06.01.21 19:21, Marcus wrote:

Am 06.01.21 um 08:45 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
Am I overlooking the publication of the blog post or is it still 
unpublished?


imho:
Dave said it correctly in his email that the consensus was to publish 
the blog post first (and work on the new release in parallel):


"I think that there is consensus to publish the blog post by Monday.

After that it will be time to start preparing 4.1.9 release notes."


Or does that no longer apply? Why?


good question.

Is the text ready?
Patricia said already it's OK from the lanuage perspective.

However, I would exchange the last sentence as it really doesn't fit 
anymore:


"We wish you a peaceful year-end."

with

"We wish you a good and healthy start into the new year."

Any other comemnts?

Yea looks good. Lets get the message out.


ok, the blog post is now online:
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/new-release-for-apple-s

Marcus


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Re: When will the blog post be published?

[Dave Fisher]

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 6, 2021, at 3:32 PM, Marcus  wrote:
> 
> Am 06.01.21 um 19:41 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>> On 06.01.21 19:21, Marcus wrote:
>>> Am 06.01.21 um 08:45 schrieb Jörg Schmidt:
 Am I overlooking the publication of the blog post or is it still 
 unpublished?
 
 imho:
 Dave said it correctly in his email that the consensus was to publish the 
 blog post first (and work on the new release in parallel):
 
 "I think that there is consensus to publish the blog post by Monday.
 
 After that it will be time to start preparing 4.1.9 release notes."
 
 
 Or does that no longer apply? Why?
>>> 
>>> good question.
>>> 
>>> Is the text ready?
>>> Patricia said already it's OK from the lanuage perspective.
>>> 
>>> However, I would exchange the last sentence as it really doesn't fit 
>>> anymore:
>>> 
>>> "We wish you a peaceful year-end."
>>> 
>>> with
>>> 
>>> "We wish you a good and healthy start into the new year."
>>> 
>>> Any other comemnts?
>> Yea looks good. Lets get the message out.
> 
> ok, the blog post is now online:
> https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/new-release-for-apple-s

Thank you. I’ve been distracted today.

Regards,
Dave

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RE: When will the blog post be published?

[Jörg Schmidt]

 

> -Original Message-
> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2021 12:32 AM
> To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: When will the blog post be published?


> ok, the blog post is now online:
> https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/new-release-for-apple-s

Many thanks, to all involved.

But one small detail:
Why suddenly "dev-AT-openoffice.apache-DOT-org." instead of 
"dev@openoffice.apache.org." as in the draft?


Jörg


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