Re: A 4.1.6 Release

2018-08-21 Thread FR web forum
Hi,
I submit a patch from Github:
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/commit/27c0241d4ef1b2cd62c0327e22f48381ff0ce40f.patch
Is it possible to commit in 4.1.6?


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> De: "Jim Jagielski" 
> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Envoyé: Lundi 20 Août 2018 15:38:20
> Objet: Re: A 4.1.6 Release
> 
> A good place to start is:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/How+to+Cook+a+Release
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.5
> 
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.6+Release+Planning
> 
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Creating and Updating the Help Files

2018-08-21 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Do we have documentation anywhere on how to Create/Update the AOO help
files?

Regards
Keith



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Re: Creating and Updating the Help Files

2018-08-21 Thread FR web forum
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Documentation/OnlineHelp

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> De: "Keith N. McKenna" 
> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> Envoyé: Mardi 21 Août 2018 17:56:46
> Objet: Creating and Updating the Help Files
> 
> Do we have documentation anywhere on how to Create/Update the AOO
> help
> files?
> 
> Regards
> Keith
> 
> 

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Re: Creating and Updating the Help Files

2018-08-21 Thread Matthias Seidel
Hi Keith,

So far I (and likely some others) only "patched" the source. Basically
it is HTML 3.2.

But we have some code in source:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/helpcontent2/helpers/
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/helpauthoring/

Regards,

   Matthias


Am 21.08.2018 um 17:56 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
> Do we have documentation anywhere on how to Create/Update the AOO help
> files?
>
> Regards
> Keith
>




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Re: IBM Plex font

2018-08-21 Thread Matthias Seidel
Well, IBM Legal just pulled the Apache License:

https://github.com/IBM/plex/issues/190#issuecomment-414718805

Still it is a nice font and I like the idea of creating an extension.

Regards,

   Matthias


Am 13.08.2018 um 18:35 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> Am 11.08.2018 um 17:13 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>> On 10/08/2018 Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>> Am 10.08.2018 um 00:13 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
 On 8/9/2018 11:55 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> I am wondering if we could include it in OpenOffice?
> [1] https://www.ibm.com/plex/
>
 My question would be like Marcus's; What purpose are we serving by
 adding it to the distribution. I already  have a plethora of fonts
 installed that I will never use. If someone wants it it can be
 downloaded for free.
>>> OK, point taken.
>> It could still be a good exercise to add it to trunk as a test, so
>> that we can check what the size increase actually is and revisit that
>> part of OpenOffice. Then, if there is no special benefit and the size
>> increase is too much, we can always remove it, but I see some value
>> (meaning: some knowledge gain) in trying even if in the end we decide
>> not to keep it.
> That would be a Category A font?
> I will try to include it in one of my "personal" builds...
>
> Regards,
>    Matthias
>
>> Regards,
>>   Andrea.
>>
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RE: IBM Plex font

2018-08-21 Thread Howard Cary Morris
>From my earlier thoughts: Can we get to all the Google fonts via internet when 
>the internet is available?

Howard

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From: Matthias Seidel
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 11:51 AM
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: IBM Plex font

Well, IBM Legal just pulled the Apache License:

https://github.com/IBM/plex/issues/190#issuecomment-414718805

Still it is a nice font and I like the idea of creating an extension.

Regards,

   Matthias


Am 13.08.2018 um 18:35 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> Am 11.08.2018 um 17:13 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>> On 10/08/2018 Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>> Am 10.08.2018 um 00:13 schrieb Keith N. McKenna:
 On 8/9/2018 11:55 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> I am wondering if we could include it in OpenOffice?
> [1] https://www.ibm.com/plex/
>
 My question would be like Marcus's; What purpose are we serving by
 adding it to the distribution. I already  have a plethora of fonts
 installed that I will never use. If someone wants it it can be
 downloaded for free.
>>> OK, point taken.
>> It could still be a good exercise to add it to trunk as a test, so
>> that we can check what the size increase actually is and revisit that
>> part of OpenOffice. Then, if there is no special benefit and the size
>> increase is too much, we can always remove it, but I see some value
>> (meaning: some knowledge gain) in trying even if in the end we decide
>> not to keep it.
> That would be a Category A font?
> I will try to include it in one of my "personal" builds...
>
> Regards,
>Matthias
>
>> Regards,
>>   Andrea.
>>
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Re: Creating and Updating the Help Files

2018-08-21 Thread Keith N. McKenna
On 8/21/2018 12:02 PM, FR web forum wrote:
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Documentation/OnlineHelp
> 
> - Mail original -
>> De: "Keith N. McKenna" 
>> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
>> Envoyé: Mardi 21 Août 2018 17:56:46
>> Objet: Creating and Updating the Help Files
>>
>> Do we have documentation anywhere on how to Create/Update the AOO
>> help
>> files?
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith
>>
>>
Thanks for the link, but most of those do not describe the process in
any kind of detail. What I need is a process document that explains the
process in detail along with links to any tools needed.

Regards
Keith



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Re: xmlhelp ported to gbuild

2018-08-21 Thread Kay Schenk
On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 12:02 AM Damjan Jovanovic  wrote:

> Hi
>
> After a long break, I've decided to do some more gbuild porting, for
> interesting reasons I will discuss later.
>
> main/xmlhelp has just been ported and the changes committed.
>
> It's been tested only on FreeBSD but the changes are fairly conservative
> and should work everywhere.
>
> 186 modules exist in total.
> 65 AOO modules using dmake still remain to be ported to gbuild.
> All 37 external modules (eg. jpeg, zlib) are using dmake. How to port them
> remains unclear, but they should be easy to port as they use other build
> scripts that we chain-build.
>
> Damjan
>

Hi. I built and have opened and checked out the existing AOO Help. So far,
so good. This is on my CentOS 6.10 system with the old gstreamer so I did
not enable that option. I need to investigate the build output and will
report on any problems in a few days.

-- 
--
MzK

"Less is MORE."


Re: Creating and Updating the Help Files

2018-08-21 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 10:45 AM Keith N. McKenna 
wrote:

> On 8/21/2018 12:02 PM, FR web forum wrote:
> > https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Documentation/OnlineHelp
> >
> > - Mail original -
> >> De: "Keith N. McKenna" 
> >> À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
> >> Envoyé: Mardi 21 Août 2018 17:56:46
> >> Objet: Creating and Updating the Help Files
> >>
> >> Do we have documentation anywhere on how to Create/Update the AOO
> >> help
> >> files?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Keith
> >>
> >>
> Thanks for the link, but most of those do not describe the process in
> any kind of detail. What I need is a process document that explains the
> process in detail along with links to any tools needed.
>
> Regards
> Keith
>
>
The old definitive guide -- specification, etc. -- can be found from this
area:
http://www.openoffice.org/documentation/online_help/index.html

Since I have added help files I will say that the process is NOT easy.
Mostly because nearly ALL paragraphs are tagged with ids, and you must
"create" these ids yourself. There was once a tool to use within AOO that
was supposed to help but I never got this to work for me. The structure is
difficult and seems somewhat arbitrary to me.

The idea to port the internal Help to a different system/architecture was
brought up almost at the outset of bringing AOO into the ASF but no one
volunteered to do this.

Anyway, good luck. I will try to be of help if I can. But, it's been a
while ...


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Re: Creating and Updating the Help Files

2018-08-21 Thread Keith N. McKenna
On 8/21/2018 6:16 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 10:45 AM Keith N. McKenna 
> wrote:
> 
>> On 8/21/2018 12:02 PM, FR web forum wrote:
>>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Category:Documentation/OnlineHelp
>>>
>>> - Mail original -
 De: "Keith N. McKenna" 
 À: dev@openoffice.apache.org
 Envoyé: Mardi 21 Août 2018 17:56:46
 Objet: Creating and Updating the Help Files

 Do we have documentation anywhere on how to Create/Update the AOO
 help
 files?

 Regards
 Keith


>> Thanks for the link, but most of those do not describe the process in
>> any kind of detail. What I need is a process document that explains the
>> process in detail along with links to any tools needed.
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith
>>
>>
> The old definitive guide -- specification, etc. -- can be found from this
> area:
> http://www.openoffice.org/documentation/online_help/index.html
> 
> Since I have added help files I will say that the process is NOT easy.
> Mostly because nearly ALL paragraphs are tagged with ids, and you must
> "create" these ids yourself. There was once a tool to use within AOO that
> was supposed to help but I never got this to work for me. The structure is
> difficult and seems somewhat arbitrary to me.
> 
> The idea to port the internal Help to a different system/architecture was
> brought up almost at the outset of bringing AOO into the ASF but no one
> volunteered to do this.
> 
> Anyway, good luck. I will try to be of help if I can. But, it's been a
> while ...
> 
> 
Thanks Kay. I had stumbled across that PDF while exploring some of the
other links. I will study it over the next few days and see if I can
figure it out.
I was reviewing some of the threads on re dev@ around options for
redoing the help system. I would be nice to see a more straight forward
system. I just don't have the background to do it.

Regards
Keith



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Re: xmlhelp ported to gbuild

2018-08-21 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
That's good news, thank you.

Significant further changes will be coming, with the ability to run
cppumaker-based UNO IDL generation from gbuild that I am now developing,
which was a barrier to porting at least 7 more dmake modules.

On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 12:02 AM Kay Schenk  wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 12:02 AM Damjan Jovanovic 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > After a long break, I've decided to do some more gbuild porting, for
> > interesting reasons I will discuss later.
> >
> > main/xmlhelp has just been ported and the changes committed.
> >
> > It's been tested only on FreeBSD but the changes are fairly conservative
> > and should work everywhere.
> >
> > 186 modules exist in total.
> > 65 AOO modules using dmake still remain to be ported to gbuild.
> > All 37 external modules (eg. jpeg, zlib) are using dmake. How to port
> them
> > remains unclear, but they should be easy to port as they use other build
> > scripts that we chain-build.
> >
> > Damjan
> >
>
> Hi. I built and have opened and checked out the existing AOO Help. So far,
> so good. This is on my CentOS 6.10 system with the old gstreamer so I did
> not enable that option. I need to investigate the build output and will
> report on any problems in a few days.
>
> --
> --
> MzK
>
> "Less is MORE."
>


Re: Open Office 4.1.5 toolbar icon

2018-08-21 Thread Peter kovacs
This is not a PMC issue.
Looping in Dev list.

Maybe in fisheye (don't have the link at hand) the history can be looked up?

Am 21. August 2018 22:16:19 MESZ schrieb Donald Nathan 
:
>To whom it may concern,
>
>I'm a student at Norwich University and just downloaded new version of
>Open Office 4.1.5. Could you provide me with a link so I may download
>old desktop icon that looks like this?
>
>Thanks for your time!
>
>Donald
>
>[cid:4052dabc-43a9-4782-9c4d-b3525e5b118a]

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