Re: Buildbot upgrades broken ?

[Matthias Seidel]

Am 28.06.2017 um 02:59 schrieb Gavin McDonald:
> Hi
>
>> On 28 Jun 2017, at 2:18 am, Andrea Pescetti  wrote:
>>
>> Gavin McDonald wrote:
>>> https://forum.openoffice.org ...
>>> https://wiki.openoffice.org ...
>>> We need to migrate these services over to new fully puppetized VMs.
>> One thing to remember: while we can live without buildbots (that were left 
>> crippled by a similar infrastructure upgrade) we can't have a long downtime 
>> for the Forum or Wiki; so if Infra is embarking on this, then this time the 
>> job must be completed successfully. I see the JIRA issues already take care 
>> of stating this, but it's better to point it out again
> The Operating Systems were upgraded on some Buildbot VMS whilst others were 
> replaced altogether. Mostly, I see this as the OpenOffice project need to 
> keep up to speed with Operating Systems, associated software packages for 
> those systems and ensure that the OpenOffice software can run on ever 
> evolving systems. Windows 7 as an example was EOL years ago and security 
> updates no longer available. Ubuntu 12.04 the same thing. You are complaining 
> we replaced 5 year old and 10 year old Operating systems and that this broke 
> your builds. 

Hi Gavin,

Are you mixing up Windows 7 with Windows XP?

https://support.microsoft.com/en-US/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet

Windows 7 will not be EOL until 2020 (and MS might even extend that
date, given the market share)

Apart from that, OpenOffice builds perfectly on Windows 10, the problem
is the compiler that was changed in the buildbot. We do need a specific
building environment.

> Builds break, upgrades of Operating Systems and their underlying software 
> packages happen. Our build systems will always be evolving so projects must 
> learn to cope with this and ensure their builds change with it.

Acknowledged.
Last week I set up a VM with Windows 10 and did successfully build AOO.
I would love to get our Windows buildbots running again.

> I would like to have all the OpenOffice builds fixed. So, please open INFRA 
> tickets for all broken builds where you see that INFRA needs to do something 
> - install software etc. But sitting around doing nothing is not going
> to get them fixed. 

Oh yes, I see.
But looking at my last contact with Infra, someone else should open
those tickets... :-D

Regards, Matthias

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Re: Forums and Wiki VM Migrations

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Andrea,

After the migration I would love to have some kind of administrative
access to the Wiki.
Would that be possible?

Kind regards, Matthias


Am 27.06.2017 um 18:18 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
> Gavin McDonald wrote:
>> https://forum.openoffice.org ...
>> https://wiki.openoffice.org ...
>> We need to migrate these services over to new fully puppetized VMs.
>
> One thing to remember: while we can live without buildbots (that were
> left crippled by a similar infrastructure upgrade) we can't have a
> long downtime for the Forum or Wiki; so if Infra is embarking on this,
> then this time the job must be completed successfully. I see the JIRA
> issues already take care of stating this, but it's better to point it
> out again.
>
>> I imagine that identifying all the nuts and bolts of these services
>> will take a
>> bit of time to go through, and to puppetize everything that we can.
>
> Speaking as probably the only active person in maintaining the
> services, I can say that the text files available to Infra (not
> publicly accessible, but ask me the URL if needed) describe reasonably
> well the setup. The wiki is mostly normal, but the forum is crazy (for
> historical reasons).
>
>> I will be here on list and also liaising through the INFRA Jira
>> tickets [1][2].
>
> Thank you. I don't see it necessary to create a wiki page for the
> migration but if it helps, no problem.
>
>> A volunteer or two to assist with communication between Infra and the
>> Openoffice communities (such as those using and managing the Forums -
>> particularly since some of those dont follow the mailing lists or
>> Jira.) would
>> be nice.
>> A volunteer or two who wants to be involved in the actual migration
>> process
>> would also be nice so that we have folks here with some working
>> knowledge
>> by the end of the process.
>
> I volunteer for the second part: I don't have a lot of spare time, but
> at the moment I'm the only person with recent experience of managing
> the services. I've subscribed to both JIRA issues.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
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Re: Release 4.1.4 - Can we add a script to the release to help user support in working around an issue?

[John Ha yahoo]

Peter

See Spell checker "red wriggly lines" - beta test fix 
  
where three users with spell check problems have downloaded the python 
script and reported back that it ran successfully.


I asked any who do run it to report back so hopefully we will get more 
reports which should improve your confidence in releasing it.  78 people 
have downloaded the script so far but only three have reported back.


 * /As requested, I have tried your Macro patch, and it has had the
   desired results, thank you./
 * /This saved my spellcheck. Thank you!/
 * /I came across this problem all of a sudden and it drives me crazy.
   I have been trying to fix it even to the point of uninstalling and
   reinstalling new version. To no luck. I came across this and WALLA
   it fixed. Thank You SO MUCH.//Thank Again/

John Harvey
On 18/06/2017 08:58, Peter Kovacs wrote:

Hello all,

John (in CC) suggested to add the Script of Hanya (also in CC) to the 
Open Office Release as a first improvement.
On the discussion in this thread @dev declared only stuff that is in 
trunc can be part of an release.
Since Hanya has comitter rights granted it was suggested he should be 
the one commiting his script.


@Hanya: Do you believe that your script is stable enough to be added 
or is there work to do to get it commited?

Can you commit your work, so we can add it for release?

@Jim (Release Manager):
What is the timeframe for you to get this script into 4.1.4. You only 
stated that it has to be in svn, not until when and what the timeframe 
is. My understanding is the current Version is close to a RC.


Hope this drives this topic a little further.

All the best
Peter

Am 13.06.2017 um 23:42 schrieb Marcus:

Am 13.06.2017 um 23:24 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

Marcus wrote:

assumed it's OK on trunk and 4.1.4, how do we integrate this into the
installation process?


I see it as an on-demand tool. So nothing would be added to the 
installation process. A new menu item would be available for it (the 
current solution uses the macro runner menu).


It seems, though, that the current implementation relies on being 
executed from the user profile and this will probably not work for 
our 4.1.4 use case: I haven't checked, but I believe that the 
profile is left unchanged by maintenance (4.1.x) updates. This 
should be investigated though: there is likely a way to bundle it as 
a "shared" script that would then be available even without touching 
the profile.


an alternative would be to create a new Help menu entry (e.g., "Help 
- Spell check fix"). This opens a webpage which provides a download 
link to the file and a text with explainations/instructions: Why is 
it needed, how to unpack/install/execute it, what is it going to do, 
etc.


Marcus


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Re: Forums and Wiki VM Migrations

[Andrea Pescetti]

Matthias Seidel wrote:

After the migration I would love to have some kind of administrative
access to the Wiki.
Would that be possible?


Sure, we just need (lazy) consensus from this list, i.e., nobody saying 
that they oppose, so that's easy. What access would you like to have?


1) Access to the wiki itself (current administrators: Keith, who is 
doing most of the work -basically, accounts creation- and me). No 
particular skills needed, everything is done in browser.


2) Shell access to the VM (here I don't know who has access exactly, but 
the only active, or semi-active, one would be me). Here the work 
concerns mainly the occasional MediaWiki upgrade. Average sysadmin 
skills needed. This is managed by Infra, but Infra will still want to 
have lazy consensus from this list.


Note: when I say "wiki" above, I mean MWiki aka https://wiki.openoffice.org/

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Test builds for Windows

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi at all,

I am just doing a build of AOO414 including all 41 available languages.
(This is done mainly to see if my VM with Windows 10 can handle it and
how long it takes)

If you want to test a language which is not currently listed here:

https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-414-Test/

please drop me a line.

Note: The coming build will include shell extensions for Windows 64bit
(--enable-win-x64-shellext)

Kind regards, Matthias




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Re: Forums and Wiki VM Migrations

[Matthias Seidel]

Hi Andrea,

Am 28.06.2017 um 18:03 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> After the migration I would love to have some kind of administrative
>> access to the Wiki.
>> Would that be possible?
>
> Sure, we just need (lazy) consensus from this list, i.e., nobody
> saying that they oppose, so that's easy. What access would you like to
> have?
>
> 1) Access to the wiki itself (current administrators: Keith, who is
> doing most of the work -basically, accounts creation- and me). No
> particular skills needed, everything is done in browser.

I am not sure.
I already have an account and can modify content. But I would like to
edit some links and graphics to get the Wiki in line with our other
pages. If that can be done with this access I am totally happy.

>
> 2) Shell access to the VM (here I don't know who has access exactly,
> but the only active, or semi-active, one would be me). Here the work
> concerns mainly the occasional MediaWiki upgrade. Average sysadmin
> skills needed. This is managed by Infra, but Infra will still want to
> have lazy consensus from this list.

I think this is not needed...

>
> Note: when I say "wiki" above, I mean MWiki aka
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/

Me too! ;-)

Regards, Matthias

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> Regards,
>   Andrea.
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