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2013-04-07 Thread Yan Ji
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 2013-01-01,2755,832
 2013-02-01,2864,898
 2013-03-01,2973,981
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Re: LanguageTool have problems on dev builds (no context menu suggestions)

2013-04-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti

RGB ES wrote:

I just noticed that the LanguageTool extension(1) have some problems on
both, the latest builds from the build bot and the one layer build from
Jürgen, but it works without issues on 3.4.1 so it's not a problem with the
extension but with AOO.


It's not necessarily a problem in OpenOffice; it might be that 
LanguageTool has problems with some backwards-incompatible changes done 
in OpenOffice. To start, I would recommend to make the extension 
developers aware of it: http://www.languagetool.org/ asking them to 
write to this list if they need additional information.


Regards,
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Re: [QA][Weekly Report] Defects Status weekly report as of 2013/04/08

2013-04-07 Thread Albino B Neto
2013/4/7 Yi Xuan Liu :
> Defects status weekly report as of 20130408:
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/Report/DefectStatus#Weekly_report_as_of_2013.2F04.2F08

I thought nice disseminate on social networking:

http://identi.ca/notice/100521297

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Re: LanguageTool have problems on dev builds (no context menu suggestions)

2013-04-07 Thread RGB ES
2013/4/7 Andrea Pescetti 

> RGB ES wrote:
>
>> I just noticed that the LanguageTool extension(1) have some problems on
>> both, the latest builds from the build bot and the one layer build from
>> Jürgen, but it works without issues on 3.4.1 so it's not a problem with
>> the
>> extension but with AOO.
>>
>
> It's not necessarily a problem in OpenOffice; it might be that
> LanguageTool has problems with some backwards-incompatible changes done in
> OpenOffice. To start, I would recommend to make the extension developers
> aware of it: http://www.languagetool.org/ asking them to write to this
> list if they need additional information.
>

OK, I've sent an email to one of the main developers.

Regards
Ricardo




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Re: LanguageTool have problems on dev builds (no context menu suggestions)

2013-04-07 Thread RGB ES
2013/4/7 Andrea Pescetti 

> RGB ES wrote:
>
>> I just noticed that the LanguageTool extension(1) have some problems on
>> both, the latest builds from the build bot and the one layer build from
>> Jürgen, but it works without issues on 3.4.1 so it's not a problem with
>> the
>> extension but with AOO.
>>
>
> It's not necessarily a problem in OpenOffice; it might be that
> LanguageTool has problems with some backwards-incompatible changes done in
> OpenOffice.


There is list of those changes? The release notes talks about an unified
menu API and points to this issue

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121542

but I'm not sure about the meaning of that.

Regards
Ricardo



> To start, I would recommend to make the extension developers aware of it:
> http://www.languagetool.org/ asking them to write to this list if they
> need additional information.
>
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>   Andrea.
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Re: LanguageTool have problems on dev builds (no context menu suggestions)

2013-04-07 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Ricardo,

On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 03:18:11PM +0200, RGB ES wrote:
> 2013/4/7 Andrea Pescetti 
> 
> > RGB ES wrote:
> >
> >> I just noticed that the LanguageTool extension(1) have some problems on
> >> both, the latest builds from the build bot and the one layer build from
> >> Jürgen, but it works without issues on 3.4.1 so it's not a problem with
> >> the
> >> extension but with AOO.
> >>
> >
> > It's not necessarily a problem in OpenOffice; it might be that
> > LanguageTool has problems with some backwards-incompatible changes done in
> > OpenOffice.
> 
> 
> There is list of those changes? The release notes talks about an unified
> menu API and points to this issue
> 
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121542
> 
> but I'm not sure about the meaning of that.

This API change is completely unrelated to grammar checking. Please open
a bug, this is also reproducible with
http://extensions.openoffice.org/project/lightproof
so the regression is in AOO code.


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Re: LanguageTool have problems on dev builds (no context menu suggestions)

2013-04-07 Thread RGB ES
2013/4/7 Ariel Constenla-Haile 

> Hi Ricardo,
>
> On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 03:18:11PM +0200, RGB ES wrote:
> > 2013/4/7 Andrea Pescetti 
> >
> > > RGB ES wrote:
> > >
> > >> I just noticed that the LanguageTool extension(1) have some problems
> on
> > >> both, the latest builds from the build bot and the one layer build
> from
> > >> Jürgen, but it works without issues on 3.4.1 so it's not a problem
> with
> > >> the
> > >> extension but with AOO.
> > >>
> > >
> > > It's not necessarily a problem in OpenOffice; it might be that
> > > LanguageTool has problems with some backwards-incompatible changes
> done in
> > > OpenOffice.
> >
> >
> > There is list of those changes? The release notes talks about an unified
> > menu API and points to this issue
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121542
> >
> > but I'm not sure about the meaning of that.
>
> This API change is completely unrelated to grammar checking. Please open
> a bug, this is also reproducible with
> http://extensions.openoffice.org/project/lightproof
> so the regression is in AOO code.
>

OK, it is filled here:

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122015

I used Writer/UI as Product/Component.

Regards
Ricardo




>
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
>


Customized builds

2013-04-07 Thread Alexandro Colorado
I wonder if the nightly builds support customized builds, if for example if
a user wants a build that has some special configuration like, anti-alias
by default or a customized default templates or menu layout.

Can the nightly build infrastructure be used to generate that?

If not, why not, what would be needed to do that.

Regards.


-- 
Alexandro Colorado
Apache OpenOffice Contributor
http://es.openoffice.org


Re: Customized builds

2013-04-07 Thread janI
On 7 April 2013 20:58, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:

> I wonder if the nightly builds support customized builds, if for example if
> a user wants a build that has some special configuration like, anti-alias
> by default or a customized default templates or menu layout.
>
> Can the nightly build infrastructure be used to generate that?
>
No, our buildbot's run with a preconfigured setup, including number of
tasks and configure for each task (job).


>
> If not, why not, what would be needed to do that.
>
We would need to change away from build bot, it cannot support dynamic. All
changes in the setup has to be done via the infrastructure svn, where only
a few have access.

But I dont really get, if a user wants a customized build, would it not be
simpler for him to build it himself ? the nightly build are in my opinion
to secure that our product builds and that the branches compile on
different platforms. The purpose of the nightly build is not to save the
user from installing a compiler.

rgds
jan I.

>
> Regards.
>
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> http://es.openoffice.org
>


Re: Customized builds

2013-04-07 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:12 PM, janI  wrote:

> On 7 April 2013 20:58, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
>
> > I wonder if the nightly builds support customized builds, if for example
> if
> > a user wants a build that has some special configuration like, anti-alias
> > by default or a customized default templates or menu layout.
> >
> > Can the nightly build infrastructure be used to generate that?
> >
> No, our buildbot's run with a preconfigured setup, including number of
> tasks and configure for each task (job).
>
>
> >
> > If not, why not, what would be needed to do that.
> >
> We would need to change away from build bot, it cannot support dynamic. All
> changes in the setup has to be done via the infrastructure svn, where only
> a few have access.
>
> But I dont really get, if a user wants a customized build, would it not be
> simpler for him to build it himself ? the nightly build are in my opinion
>

Well because a user might want to just click on a build made by an
automated bot.

This is done a lot by OpenSuSE studio people which can let you remaster
SuSE through a web interface and download the .iso, virtual machine or
amazon image.


> to secure that our product builds and that the branches compile on
> different platforms. The purpose of the nightly build is not to save the
> user from installing a compiler.
>
> rgds
> jan I.
>
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Alexandro Colorado
> > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> > http://es.openoffice.org
> >
>



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http://es.openoffice.org


Re: Customized builds

2013-04-07 Thread janI
On 7 April 2013 21:24, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:12 PM, janI  wrote:
>
> > On 7 April 2013 20:58, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
> >
> > > I wonder if the nightly builds support customized builds, if for
> example
> > if
> > > a user wants a build that has some special configuration like,
> anti-alias
> > > by default or a customized default templates or menu layout.
> > >
> > > Can the nightly build infrastructure be used to generate that?
> > >
> > No, our buildbot's run with a preconfigured setup, including number of
> > tasks and configure for each task (job).
> >
> >
> > >
> > > If not, why not, what would be needed to do that.
> > >
> > We would need to change away from build bot, it cannot support dynamic.
> All
> > changes in the setup has to be done via the infrastructure svn, where
> only
> > a few have access.
> >
> > But I dont really get, if a user wants a customized build, would it not
> be
> > simpler for him to build it himself ? the nightly build are in my opinion
> >
>
> Well because a user might want to just click on a build made by an
> automated bot.
>
> This is done a lot by OpenSuSE studio people which can let you remaster
> SuSE through a web interface and download the .iso, virtual machine or
> amazon image.
>
I can understand the need for an OS, but do we really want to "distribute"
different packages. The binary we deliver, have quite a lot of options for
configuration.

I admit, that I think a lot more in reducing the compile switches (a la,
this is our binary, all compile options are solely for our
developers/testers)if a compile switch is usefull to a user, it should
be an option in the program instead.

rgds
jan I.

>
>
> > to secure that our product builds and that the branches compile on
> > different platforms. The purpose of the nightly build is not to save the
> > user from installing a compiler.
> >
> > rgds
> > jan I.
> >
> > >
> > > Regards.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Alexandro Colorado
> > > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> > > http://es.openoffice.org
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> http://es.openoffice.org
>


Re: Customized builds

2013-04-07 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:48 PM, janI  wrote:

> On 7 April 2013 21:24, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:12 PM, janI  wrote:
> >
> > > On 7 April 2013 20:58, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
> > >
> > > > I wonder if the nightly builds support customized builds, if for
> > example
> > > if
> > > > a user wants a build that has some special configuration like,
> > anti-alias
> > > > by default or a customized default templates or menu layout.
> > > >
> > > > Can the nightly build infrastructure be used to generate that?
> > > >
> > > No, our buildbot's run with a preconfigured setup, including number of
> > > tasks and configure for each task (job).
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > If not, why not, what would be needed to do that.
> > > >
> > > We would need to change away from build bot, it cannot support dynamic.
> > All
> > > changes in the setup has to be done via the infrastructure svn, where
> > only
> > > a few have access.
> > >
> > > But I dont really get, if a user wants a customized build, would it not
> > be
> > > simpler for him to build it himself ? the nightly build are in my
> opinion
> > >
> >
> > Well because a user might want to just click on a build made by an
> > automated bot.
> >
> > This is done a lot by OpenSuSE studio people which can let you remaster
> > SuSE through a web interface and download the .iso, virtual machine or
> > amazon image.
> >
> I can understand the need for an OS, but do we really want to "distribute"
> different packages. The binary we deliver, have quite a lot of options for
> configuration.
>
> I admit, that I think a lot more in reducing the compile switches (a la,
> this is our binary, all compile options are solely for our
> developers/testers)if a compile switch is usefull to a user, it should
> be an option in the program instead.
>

The question came from a user that wonder how difficult would it be to
remaster a binary of AOO 'in the cloud' which made me think of the nightly
builds. But I understand this is more challenging that at first glance. i
guess if this was trivial, l10n would have used long ago instead of waiting
for a localized version.



>
> rgds
> jan I.
>
> >
> >
> > > to secure that our product builds and that the branches compile on
> > > different platforms. The purpose of the nightly build is not to save
> the
> > > user from installing a compiler.
> > >
> > > rgds
> > > jan I.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Alexandro Colorado
> > > > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> > > > http://es.openoffice.org
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Alexandro Colorado
> > Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> > http://es.openoffice.org
> >
>



-- 
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Apache OpenOffice Contributor
http://es.openoffice.org


OpenOffice blog planets all dead - is there a new one?

2013-04-07 Thread David Gerard
http://www.openoffice.org/editorial/blogs.html

This page is seriously out of date. In particular, there's four blog
planets listed there, none of which are operational. Is there a new
blog planet? Should there be?


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Re: OpenOffice blog planets all dead - is there a new one?

2013-04-07 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
"Seriously out of date" is an understatement. We're almost talking
archeology here. I haven't maintained that page in years, and the one that
is most relevant is probably here, https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/, but it's
not a planet.
louis


On 7 April 2013 18:42, David Gerard  wrote:

> http://www.openoffice.org/editorial/blogs.html
>
> This page is seriously out of date. In particular, there's four blog
> planets listed there, none of which are operational. Is there a new
> blog planet? Should there be?
>
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Re: OpenOffice blog planets all dead - is there a new one?

2013-04-07 Thread RGB ES
2013/4/8 David Gerard 

> http://www.openoffice.org/editorial/blogs.html
>
> This page is seriously out of date. In particular, there's four blog
> planets listed there, none of which are operational. Is there a new
> blog planet? Should there be?
>

Exactly one year ago there was a thread about a "planet AOO":

http://markmail.org/message/u4qxggwpfgw4ij2h

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Ricardo



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Re: OpenOffice blog planets all dead - is there a new one?

2013-04-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts
wrote:

> "Seriously out of date" is an understatement. We're almost talking
> archeology here. I haven't maintained that page in years, and the one that
> is most relevant is probably here, https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/, but it's
> not a planet.
> louis
>
>
Fortunately that is the blog we link to prominently from our website.

The http://www.openoffice.org/editorial/blogs.html page David found is
almost invisible to users, since it is not prominently linked from
anywhere, onsite or off.  In the last 30 days it has received only 158
visits, out of over 6 million visits to the website.  So it is not the
highest on my list of webpages to worry about.

That said, all committers are able to get their personal blogs aggregated
into the Apache Committers Planet:  http://planet.apache.org/committers/

And if we want to have an OpenOffice-specifc version of this it would not
be too difficult to do.

-Rob


>
> On 7 April 2013 18:42, David Gerard  wrote:
>
> > http://www.openoffice.org/editorial/blogs.html
> >
> > This page is seriously out of date. In particular, there's four blog
> > planets listed there, none of which are operational. Is there a new
> > blog planet? Should there be?
> >
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Re: CMS diff:

2013-04-07 Thread Rob Weir
Thanks for the patch. I've checked it in.

-Rob


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Re: OS for main AOO buildbots

2013-04-07 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Kay,

On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 04:33:05PM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote:
> Well, Ok. I think we need to maintain a secure environment with
> anything used for our builds -- libraries, etc. That would be my only
> concern with "older" items.

CentOS 5 is currently being maintained; in fact, the "latest and
greatest" 5 version has been released on January 2013
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/2013-January/019205.html

CentOS 5 will get full updates until Q1 2014, and maintenance updates
until March 31st, 2017 
http://wiki.centos.org/About/Product
http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/General#head-fe8a0be91ee3e7dea812e8694491e1dde5b75e6d

This means there will be security and other critical bug fixes until
2017, while maintaining the kernel and glibc base (2.6.18 and 2.5,
respectively).

You won't find this in other distros, not even Debian (squeeze has
glibc-2.11 http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/glibc-2.11-1), which is
known for "stability than cutting-edge packages".


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Re: Customized builds

2013-04-07 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 4/7/13 9:58 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:48 PM, janI  wrote:
> 
>> On 7 April 2013 21:24, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:12 PM, janI  wrote:
>>>
 On 7 April 2013 20:58, Alexandro Colorado  wrote:

> I wonder if the nightly builds support customized builds, if for
>>> example
 if
> a user wants a build that has some special configuration like,
>>> anti-alias
> by default or a customized default templates or menu layout.
>
> Can the nightly build infrastructure be used to generate that?
>
 No, our buildbot's run with a preconfigured setup, including number of
 tasks and configure for each task (job).


>
> If not, why not, what would be needed to do that.
>
 We would need to change away from build bot, it cannot support dynamic.
>>> All
 changes in the setup has to be done via the infrastructure svn, where
>>> only
 a few have access.

 But I dont really get, if a user wants a customized build, would it not
>>> be
 simpler for him to build it himself ? the nightly build are in my
>> opinion

>>>
>>> Well because a user might want to just click on a build made by an
>>> automated bot.
>>>
>>> This is done a lot by OpenSuSE studio people which can let you remaster
>>> SuSE through a web interface and download the .iso, virtual machine or
>>> amazon image.
>>>
>> I can understand the need for an OS, but do we really want to "distribute"
>> different packages. The binary we deliver, have quite a lot of options for
>> configuration.
>>
>> I admit, that I think a lot more in reducing the compile switches (a la,
>> this is our binary, all compile options are solely for our
>> developers/testers)if a compile switch is usefull to a user, it should
>> be an option in the program instead.
>>
> 
> The question came from a user that wonder how difficult would it be to
> remaster a binary of AOO 'in the cloud' which made me think of the nightly
> builds. But I understand this is more challenging that at first glance. i
> guess if this was trivial, l10n would have used long ago instead of waiting
> for a localized version.
> 
> 

Well the idea in general is not a bad one. But I would think more in the
direction of customized packaging. Means if some body needs only a
writer and dependencies in French, he can click on some options and can
later on download a new packaged french writer version. Together with a
good update mechanism and a stable and secure infra structure supporting
such a service it can be interesting.

But we are far away from this in many areas and we have far more
important things that can benefit from some activity.

Juergen


> 
>>
>> rgds
>> jan I.
>>
>>>
>>>
 to secure that our product builds and that the branches compile on
 different platforms. The purpose of the nightly build is not to save
>> the
 user from installing a compiler.

 rgds
 jan I.

>
> Regards.
>
>
> --
> Alexandro Colorado
> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
> http://es.openoffice.org
>

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Alexandro Colorado
>>> Apache OpenOffice Contributor
>>> http://es.openoffice.org
>>>
>>
> 
> 
> 


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