windows support
devs, at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing_comparison cloudstack is reported to not support windows as host os ; https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cloud_computing_comparison&action=edit§ion=3 I am not familiar enough to do the edit and be confident but don't we? -- Daan
Re: [VOTE] jenkins jobs removal
+1 on removing pre-4.5 jobs. On 02-Oct-2015, at 6:47 am, Remi Bergsma mailto:rberg...@schubergphilis.com>> wrote: +1 on 4.3 jobs, although I'd like to hear from Rohit to confirm +0 on the rest as I cannot judge it. Regards, Remi Sent from my iPhone On 02 Oct 2015, at 02:44, Pierre-Luc Dion mailto:pdion...@apache.org>> wrote: Following Jenkins jobs on j.bac.o will be deleted doing the following tasks: 1. backup of the jobs configuration will be taken: tar -zcvf j.bac.o_jobs-archive_20151005.tgz ~jenkins/jobs 2. job will be deleted from jenkins 3. workspaces will be deleted from jenkins master server to free up disk space. VIEW | NAME | STATE| LAST_SUCCESS -|---|--|-- 4.3 | cloudstack-4.3-maven-build| blue | 2015-08-14 01:59:15 4.3 | cloudstack-4.3-maven-build-noredist | aborted | 2015-03-11 08:11:01 4.3 | cloudstack-4.3-package-deb| blue | 2015-08-14 02:04:39 4.3 | cloudstack-4.3-package-rpm| blue | 2015-03-11 08:11:01 4.3 | cloudstack-4.3-package-rpm-noredist | blue | 2014-09-02 10:29:12 4.3 | cloudstack-4.3-systemvm | blue | 2015-01-28 15:33:09 4.3 | cloudstack-4.3-systemvm64 | blue | 2015-01-28 13:25:12 4.3 | HyperVAgent4.3| blue | 2014-12-04 11:27:14 disabled | build-docs-admin-master | disabled | 2014-03-25 13:20:25 disabled | build-docs-devguide-master| disabled | 2014-03-25 13:26:51 disabled | build-docs-install-master | disabled | 2014-03-25 13:26:51 disabled | build-docs-midonet-master | disabled | 2014-02-06 06:44:22 disabled | build-docs-niciranvp-master | disabled | 2014-02-06 06:42:37 disabled | build-docs-release-notes-master | disabled | 2014-02-06 06:48:51 disabled | build-docs-vxlan-master | disabled | 2014-02-06 06:26:57 disabled | build-test-centos-builtin | disabled | n/a disabled | built-test-archive| disabled | 2014-06-06 01:38:51 disabled | cloudstack-4.4-auto-marvin| disabled | 2015-06-15 13:28:22 disabled | docs-4.3-gsoc-guide | disabled | 2015-03-08 18:20:07 disabled | Master - Python Static Code Analysis | disabled | n/a disabled | mgmt-build-reviewboard-requests | disabled | n/a disabled | run-checkin-tests | disabled | n/a disabled | simulator-build | disabled | 2014-07-31 09:47:03 disabled | simulator-deploydb| disabled | 2014-02-12 19:50:50 disabled | simulator-gate| disabled | 2014-01-23 04:18:31 disabled | simulator-singlerun | disabled | 2015-05-01 10:30:28 disabled | start-jetty | disabled | 2014-02-12 19:23:03 disabled | stop-jetty| disabled | 2013-11-20 08:14:46 disabled | test-matrix-4.4 | disabled | n/a disabled | test-matrix-extended-4.4 | disabled | n/a disabled | test-matrix-extended-master | disabled | 2014-02-21 04:35:36 disabled | test-matrix-master| disabled | n/a disabled | test-smoke-matrix-master | disabled | 2014-12-21 10:39:18 disabled | test-yumrepo-refresh-4.4 | disabled | 2014-10-21 09:43:33 disabled | test-yumrepo-refresh-master | disabled | 2014-11-21 05:32:00 management | mgmt-build-reviewboard-requests | disabled | n/a master | build-systemvm64-master-with-debian8 | red | n/a master | cloudstack-rpm-packages-with-branch-parameter | notbuilt | n/a master | pull-requests | notbuilt | n/a parameterized| cloudstack-rpm-packages-with-branch-parameter | notbuilt | n/a parameterized| parameterized-slowbuild | notbuilt | n/a parameterized| parameterized-sytemvm | notbuilt | n/a simulator| fastsimulatorbuild| red | n/a simulator| sim
Re: windows support
Yes, ACS supports Hyper-V. I was told Hyper-V is tested as tier-1 HV at Citrix for CP, however I have not heard of anyone on the ML actually running it. -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - > From: "Daan Hoogland" > To: "dev" > Sent: Tuesday, 6 October, 2015 08:28:12 > Subject: windows support > devs, > > at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing_comparison cloudstack is > reported to not support windows as host os ; > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cloud_computing_comparison&action=edit§ion=3 > > I am not familiar enough to do the edit and be confident but don't we? > > -- > Daan
Re: Xen - Migration fails in clustered environment - Possible fix
Hi All, I've raised a bug report for this issue, https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-8937 Would it be possible for someone to give this a try at some point to see if it is reproducible? Cheers On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 7:28 AM, cs user wrote: > Hi Folks, > > This jira issue relates to vmware, and a fix appears to have been included > for it in 4.5.1 and 4.5.2. > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-8412 > > This is the diff of the commit: > > > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cloudstack.git;a=commitdiff;h=27b7e49;hp=6c649ce3ae3e4b3c785e98ef0da8da4410c7dad5 > > From looking at the code, the exact same changes need to be made for > Xenserver, here for example: > > > https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/blob/master/plugins/hypervisors/xenserver/src/org/apache/cloudstack/storage/motion/XenServerStorageMotionStrategy.java > > We are running 4.5.1 and 4.5.2 and see the same issue in a clustered > environment. > > Cheers! >
Re: [VOTE] jenkins jobs removal
test-matrix-* and test-yumreporefresh* can safely be deleted. Thanks, ~Talluri On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Rohit Yadav wrote: > +1 on removing pre-4.5 jobs. > > On 02-Oct-2015, at 6:47 am, Remi Bergsma > wrote: > > +1 on 4.3 jobs, although I'd like to hear from Rohit to confirm > > +0 on the rest as I cannot judge it. > > Regards, Remi > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 02 Oct 2015, at 02:44, Pierre-Luc Dion wrote: > > Following Jenkins jobs on j.bac.o will be deleted doing the following > tasks: > 1. backup of the jobs configuration will be taken: > tar -zcvf j.bac.o_jobs-archive_20151005.tgz ~jenkins/jobs > 2. job will be deleted from jenkins > 3. workspaces will be deleted from jenkins master server to free up disk > space. > > > VIEW | NAME | > STATE| LAST_SUCCESS > > -|---|--|-- > 4.3 | cloudstack-4.3-maven-build| blue > | 2015-08-14 01:59:15 > 4.3 | cloudstack-4.3-maven-build-noredist | > aborted | 2015-03-11 08:11:01 > 4.3 | cloudstack-4.3-package-deb| blue > | 2015-08-14 02:04:39 > 4.3 | cloudstack-4.3-package-rpm| blue > | 2015-03-11 08:11:01 > 4.3 | cloudstack-4.3-package-rpm-noredist | blue > | 2014-09-02 10:29:12 > 4.3 | cloudstack-4.3-systemvm | blue > | 2015-01-28 15:33:09 > 4.3 | cloudstack-4.3-systemvm64 | blue > | 2015-01-28 13:25:12 > 4.3 | HyperVAgent4.3| blue > | 2014-12-04 11:27:14 > disabled | build-docs-admin-master | > disabled | 2014-03-25 13:20:25 > disabled | build-docs-devguide-master| > disabled | 2014-03-25 13:26:51 > disabled | build-docs-install-master | > disabled | 2014-03-25 13:26:51 > disabled | build-docs-midonet-master | > disabled | 2014-02-06 06:44:22 > disabled | build-docs-niciranvp-master | > disabled | 2014-02-06 06:42:37 > disabled | build-docs-release-notes-master | > disabled | 2014-02-06 06:48:51 > disabled | build-docs-vxlan-master | > disabled | 2014-02-06 06:26:57 > disabled | build-test-centos-builtin | > disabled | n/a > disabled | built-test-archive| > disabled | 2014-06-06 01:38:51 > disabled | cloudstack-4.4-auto-marvin| > disabled | 2015-06-15 13:28:22 > disabled | docs-4.3-gsoc-guide | > disabled | 2015-03-08 18:20:07 > disabled | Master - Python Static Code Analysis | > disabled | n/a > disabled | mgmt-build-reviewboard-requests | > disabled | n/a > disabled | run-checkin-tests | > disabled | n/a > disabled | simulator-build | > disabled | 2014-07-31 09:47:03 > disabled | simulator-deploydb| > disabled | 2014-02-12 19:50:50 > disabled | simulator-gate| > disabled | 2014-01-23 04:18:31 > disabled | simulator-singlerun | > disabled | 2015-05-01 10:30:28 > disabled | start-jetty | > disabled | 2014-02-12 19:23:03 > disabled | stop-jetty| > disabled | 2013-11-20 08:14:46 > disabled | test-matrix-4.4 | > disabled | n/a > disabled | test-matrix-extended-4.4 | > disabled | n/a > disabled | test-matrix-extended-master | > disabled | 2014-02-21 04:35:36 > disabled | test-matrix-master| > disabled | n/a > disabled | test-smoke-matrix-master | > disabled | 2014-12-21 10:39:18 > disabled | test-yumrepo-refresh-4.4 | > disabled | 2014-10-21 09:43:33 > disabled | test-yumrepo-refresh-master | > disabled | 2014-11-21 05:32:00 > management | mgmt-build-reviewboard-requests | > disabled | n/a > master | build-systemvm64-master-with-debian8 | red >| n/a > master | cloudstack-rpm-packages-with-branch-parameter | > notbuilt | n/a > master | pull-requests | > notbuilt | n/a > parameterized| cloudstack-rpm-packages-with-branch-parameter | > notbuilt | n/a > para
CS 4.5.2 Error while adding First Xenserver 6.5 with bond
Hi All Today I installed CS 4.5.2 along with Xenserver 6.5 with all upto date hotfix and xenserver configured with bonding. During the Advance Networking while add the first host xenserver I could see error as something went wrong fix it While checking the log file I could see error as pasted below. om.cloud.utils.exception.CloudRuntimeException: Cannot transit agent status with event AgentDisconnected for host 1, mangement Detail logs are uploaded in dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/sh/03cgrx969sub5n5/AAAf3tw2CzViyMDUs4LXyxfYa?dl=0 Thanks, Keerthi
zone creation wizard
Bruno, Nitin, I would like to test PRs 906 and 912 combined, maybe one of you can pull in the other ones changes and make one PR a combined one? We can also create a new one merging in both of yours but this seems useless overhead thanks, -- Daan
[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: Fix bugs on last step on Wizard zone and ...
Github user DaanHoogland commented on the pull request: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/912#issuecomment-145853416 I tried to run the wizard with this patch applied but the wizard doesn't show 'finished' nor does it finish after pressing 'next' for a final time. I shows a blank screen and then loops back to the beginning of the wizard. --- If your project is set up for it, you can reply to this email and have your reply appear on GitHub as well. If your project does not have this feature enabled and wishes so, or if the feature is enabled but not working, please contact infrastructure at infrastruct...@apache.org or file a JIRA ticket with INFRA. ---
[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: BUG-ID CLOUDSTACK-8939
GitHub user yvsubhash opened a pull request: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/914 BUG-ID CLOUDSTACK-8939 Fixing the error with snapshot size calculation in a vm with memory You can merge this pull request into a Git repository by running: $ git pull https://github.com/yvsubhash/cloudstack CLOUDSTACK-8939 Alternatively you can review and apply these changes as the patch at: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/914.patch To close this pull request, make a commit to your master/trunk branch with (at least) the following in the commit message: This closes #914 commit 5fecae08d167727437b82c92e26a550ef29bd0b2 Author: subhash yedugundla Date: 2015-10-06T13:58:13Z BUG-ID CLOUDSTACK-8939 Fixing the error with snapshot size calculation in a vm with memory --- If your project is set up for it, you can reply to this email and have your reply appear on GitHub as well. If your project does not have this feature enabled and wishes so, or if the feature is enabled but not working, please contact infrastructure at infrastruct...@apache.org or file a JIRA ticket with INFRA. ---
[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: BUG-ID CLOUDSTACK-8939
Github user remibergsma commented on the pull request: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/914#issuecomment-145924406 @yvsubhash Thanks for the PR. Can you please change the title to be more descriptive? Like: CLOUDSTACK-8939 Fixing snapshot size calculation Or something like that. Any tests for this (unit / integration)? How was this tested? How can we test it? --- If your project is set up for it, you can reply to this email and have your reply appear on GitHub as well. If your project does not have this feature enabled and wishes so, or if the feature is enabled but not working, please contact infrastructure at infrastruct...@apache.org or file a JIRA ticket with INFRA. ---
Re: Xen - Migration fails in clustered environment - Possible fix
I'm trying to take a look at this, but running into: Failed to execute goal on project cloud-framework-cluster: Could not resolve dependencies for project org.apache.cloudstack:cloud-framework-cluster:jar:4.5.2: Could not find artifact org.apache.cloudstack:cloud-api:jar:tests:4.5.2 in central ( http://repo.maven.apache.org/maven2 When trying to compile. Anyone know why this might be? On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 11:06 AM, cs user wrote: > Hi All, > > I've raised a bug report for this issue, > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-8937 > > Would it be possible for someone to give this a try at some point to see > if it is reproducible? > > Cheers > > On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 7:28 AM, cs user wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> >> This jira issue relates to vmware, and a fix appears to have been >> included for it in 4.5.1 and 4.5.2. >> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-8412 >> >> This is the diff of the commit: >> >> >> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=cloudstack.git;a=commitdiff;h=27b7e49;hp=6c649ce3ae3e4b3c785e98ef0da8da4410c7dad5 >> >> From looking at the code, the exact same changes need to be made for >> Xenserver, here for example: >> >> >> https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/blob/master/plugins/hypervisors/xenserver/src/org/apache/cloudstack/storage/motion/XenServerStorageMotionStrategy.java >> >> We are running 4.5.1 and 4.5.2 and see the same issue in a clustered >> environment. >> >> Cheers! >> > >
[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: BUG-ID:CLOUDSTACK-8921
Github user remibergsma commented on a diff in the pull request:
https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/899#discussion_r41290357
--- Diff:
plugins/hypervisors/xenserver/src/com/cloud/hypervisor/xenserver/resource/Xenserver625StorageProcessor.java
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@@ -544,6 +546,9 @@ public Answer backupSnapshot(final CopyCommand cmd) {
} else {
newSnapshot.setParentSnapshotPath(prevBackupUuid);
}
+s_logger.info("# New snapshot details: " +
newSnapshot.toString());
+s_logger.info("# New snapshot physical utilization:
"+physicalSize);
+
--- End diff --
Agree, please remove the hashes.
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[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: CLOUDSTACK-8908 After copying the templat...
Github user remibergsma commented on the pull request: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/896#issuecomment-145926015 @yvsubhash Please fix the license in this file: engine/schema/test/com/cloud/usage/dao/UsageStorageDaoImplTest.java --- If your project is set up for it, you can reply to this email and have your reply appear on GitHub as well. If your project does not have this feature enabled and wishes so, or if the feature is enabled but not working, please contact infrastructure at infrastruct...@apache.org or file a JIRA ticket with INFRA. ---
[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: CLOUDSTACK-8888: Xenserver 6.0.2 host stu...
Github user remibergsma commented on the pull request: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/861#issuecomment-145928165 @koushik-das @runseb, no response from @SudharmaJain on this matter. I propose to merge this PR #861 and close the other (#883). Agree? --- If your project is set up for it, you can reply to this email and have your reply appear on GitHub as well. If your project does not have this feature enabled and wishes so, or if the feature is enabled but not working, please contact infrastructure at infrastruct...@apache.org or file a JIRA ticket with INFRA. ---
[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: Fix bugs on last step on Wizard zone and ...
Github user milamberspace commented on the pull request: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/912#issuecomment-145985072 @DaanHoogland you need to double-check that the old zoneWizard.js file is changed on you browser (clean cache) and on the tomcat installation (if not a new installation) in work/temp dir. I have a lot of problem to test that because even I clean my browser cache, the tomcat service continue to serve the old zoneWizard.js without the L in the _l() function. Finally I made a full clean installation of CS to validate my fixes. --- If your project is set up for it, you can reply to this email and have your reply appear on GitHub as well. If your project does not have this feature enabled and wishes so, or if the feature is enabled but not working, please contact infrastructure at infrastruct...@apache.org or file a JIRA ticket with INFRA. ---
[GitHub] cloudstack pull request:
Github user ehlerst commented on the pull request: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/commit/2b41f98346eaae981238c41f8cc7092ef72492d9#commitcomment-13624715 How would you work around this if you didnt want your box to reboot? Previously we changed /sbin/reboot to just echo "use some other command" Now with this option your box just reboots no questions asked. --- If your project is set up for it, you can reply to this email and have your reply appear on GitHub as well. If your project does not have this feature enabled and wishes so, or if the feature is enabled but not working, please contact infrastructure at infrastruct...@apache.org or file a JIRA ticket with INFRA. ---
[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: CLOUDSTACK-8888: Xenserver 6.0.2 host stu...
Github user koushik-das commented on the pull request: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/861#issuecomment-146079758 @remibergsma +1 --- If your project is set up for it, you can reply to this email and have your reply appear on GitHub as well. If your project does not have this feature enabled and wishes so, or if the feature is enabled but not working, please contact infrastructure at infrastruct...@apache.org or file a JIRA ticket with INFRA. ---
[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: CLOUDSTACK-8906: /var/log/cloud/ doesn't ...
Github user SudharmaJain commented on the pull request: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/883#issuecomment-146081053 @koushik-das This bug exist in xenserver 6.0.2 and later. For XenServer 6.0, logrotation works. Thats is the reason i have implemented XenServer602Resource and didn't used Xenserver600Resource. Contents of patch file for 6.0 and 6.0.2 had a difference of one line. I have added a new file logrotate to be deployed in /etc/cron.hourly for versions 6.0.2 and later. So i have updated the patch file for 6.2 and 6.5 as well. --- If your project is set up for it, you can reply to this email and have your reply appear on GitHub as well. If your project does not have this feature enabled and wishes so, or if the feature is enabled but not working, please contact infrastructure at infrastruct...@apache.org or file a JIRA ticket with INFRA. ---
[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: CLOUDSTACK-8906: /var/log/cloud/ doesn't ...
Github user SudharmaJain commented on the pull request: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/883#issuecomment-146083023 @remibergsma @koushik-das For incorporating the change in XenServer600Resource, I need to test the change for Xenserver 6.0. After checking it for 6.0, I will update the PR. --- If your project is set up for it, you can reply to this email and have your reply appear on GitHub as well. If your project does not have this feature enabled and wishes so, or if the feature is enabled but not working, please contact infrastructure at infrastruct...@apache.org or file a JIRA ticket with INFRA. ---
[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: CLOUDSTACK-8908 After copying the templat...
Github user yvsubhash commented on the pull request: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/896#issuecomment-146090133 License Added --- If your project is set up for it, you can reply to this email and have your reply appear on GitHub as well. If your project does not have this feature enabled and wishes so, or if the feature is enabled but not working, please contact infrastructure at infrastruct...@apache.org or file a JIRA ticket with INFRA. ---
[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: CLOUDSTACK-8906: /var/log/cloud/ doesn't ...
Github user remibergsma commented on the pull request: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/883#issuecomment-146093740 @SudharmaJain Please test PR #861 and confirm your problem has been solved. We'll then close this PR and merge the other. --- If your project is set up for it, you can reply to this email and have your reply appear on GitHub as well. If your project does not have this feature enabled and wishes so, or if the feature is enabled but not working, please contact infrastructure at infrastruct...@apache.org or file a JIRA ticket with INFRA. ---
[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: Pr 906 912 bug zone wizard and adv search...
GitHub user milamberspace opened a pull request: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/915 Pr 906 912 bug zone wizard and adv search popup You can merge this pull request into a Git repository by running: $ git pull https://github.com/milamberspace/cloudstack PR-906-912-BugZoneWizardAndAdvSearchPopup Alternatively you can review and apply these changes as the patch at: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/915.patch To close this pull request, make a commit to your master/trunk branch with (at least) the following in the commit message: This closes #915 commit 2651956cf427614f5c50e89c3405e88319961cdd Author: Nitin Kumar Maharana Date: 2015-10-01T10:34:20Z CLOUDSTACK-8930: Showing blank screen when click 'Next' link in final step of Add Zone wizard. commit e64025a2b8d78b5c6fe8f2eff9d203ea6ef953de Author: Milamber Date: 2015-10-07T06:50:04Z PR 906 (CLOUDSTACK-8930) and PR 912 combined. Bugs on localization buttons in zone wizard final step and Advanced search popup --- If your project is set up for it, you can reply to this email and have your reply appear on GitHub as well. If your project does not have this feature enabled and wishes so, or if the feature is enabled but not working, please contact infrastructure at infrastruct...@apache.org or file a JIRA ticket with INFRA. ---
[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: Fix bugs on last step on Wizard zone and ...
Github user milamberspace commented on the pull request: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/912#issuecomment-146095698 Closed. New PR #915 --- If your project is set up for it, you can reply to this email and have your reply appear on GitHub as well. If your project does not have this feature enabled and wishes so, or if the feature is enabled but not working, please contact infrastructure at infrastruct...@apache.org or file a JIRA ticket with INFRA. ---
[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: Fix bugs on last step on Wizard zone and ...
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[GitHub] cloudstack pull request: CLOUDSTACK-8930: Showing blank screen whe...
Github user milamberspace commented on the pull request: https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/906#issuecomment-146096049 @nitin-maharana #906 and #912 combined into #915 You can close this PR. Thanks. --- If your project is set up for it, you can reply to this email and have your reply appear on GitHub as well. If your project does not have this feature enabled and wishes so, or if the feature is enabled but not working, please contact infrastructure at infrastruct...@apache.org or file a JIRA ticket with INFRA. ---
Re: zone creation wizard
Done with PR #915 https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/pull/915 Thanks. On 06/10/2015 12:49, Daan Hoogland wrote: Bruno, Nitin, I would like to test PRs 906 and 912 combined, maybe one of you can pull in the other ones changes and make one PR a combined one? We can also create a new one merging in both of yours but this seems useless overhead thanks, -- Daan
