[Desktop-packages] [Bug 2002290] Re: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE
** Attachment added: "apt output in gnome terminal.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vte/+bug/2002290/+attachment/5640501/+files/apt%20output%20in%20gnome%20terminal.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-terminal in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2002290 Title: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu: New Status in vte package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: VTE has a number of issues when it comes to rendering Arabic letters in the terminal, which could affect a number of languages (Arabic, Urdu, Persian... etc). Bug 1: Any Arabic word in any VTE-based terminal is choppily displayed with spaces between its letters, making readability hard and sometimes not possible. Sometimes the letters are crushed together very closely making reading impossible too. Bug 2: If a non-Arabic text and an Arabic text are displayed together in the same line, then the entire line will be missed up and you won't be able to understand what is being said. Both of these bugs can be seen from the image I attached. I reported both of these bugs together because it's unlikely they can be fixed separately, probably they are related to each other. Problem can be seen in any VTE-based terminal. Here I am using GNOME Terminal 3.44.0 on Ubuntu 22.04, but it can be seen in any Ubuntu version and in any terminal version as well (it has been there since forever). I reported the bug here instead of upstream because that's what they said at the page: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/ReportingBugs, but this bug is not related to Ubuntu only; it happens on all Linux distributions. Happy to provide any information you need, or any do tests or experiments. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 2002290] Re: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE
** Attachment added: "apt output in the browser with RTL.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vte/+bug/2002290/+attachment/5640502/+files/apt%20output%20in%20the%20browser%20with%20RTL.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-terminal in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2002290 Title: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu: New Status in vte package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: VTE has a number of issues when it comes to rendering Arabic letters in the terminal, which could affect a number of languages (Arabic, Urdu, Persian... etc). Bug 1: Any Arabic word in any VTE-based terminal is choppily displayed with spaces between its letters, making readability hard and sometimes not possible. Sometimes the letters are crushed together very closely making reading impossible too. Bug 2: If a non-Arabic text and an Arabic text are displayed together in the same line, then the entire line will be missed up and you won't be able to understand what is being said. Both of these bugs can be seen from the image I attached. I reported both of these bugs together because it's unlikely they can be fixed separately, probably they are related to each other. Problem can be seen in any VTE-based terminal. Here I am using GNOME Terminal 3.44.0 on Ubuntu 22.04, but it can be seen in any Ubuntu version and in any terminal version as well (it has been there since forever). I reported the bug here instead of upstream because that's what they said at the page: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/ReportingBugs, but this bug is not related to Ubuntu only; it happens on all Linux distributions. Happy to provide any information you need, or any do tests or experiments. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 2002290] Re: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE
Hello Egmont. Thank you for the detailed reply and for fixing my understanding about these issues. I also highly appreciate your work and help! I was using the default font in Ubuntu, but when I changed it to Monospace 9 (or even 12) as you suggested, the spaces issues disappeared and the text is now indeed very much more readable. I attached screenshots for Monospace 9 and 12. I am not sure however, which Monospace font is that? I mean, to which family? In the terminal settings it just says "Monospace". So perhaps the first thing we can drive from this to fix bug 1: Use a different terminal font by default in Ubuntu for GNOME Terminal instead of the one currently being used (which currently seems to me to be Ubuntu Mono 12)? Maybe this could be done at least when the system language is Arabic? I will test additional possible fonts and see how they would look like. For bug 2, I did a small test for "apt" output in the terminal and also in the web browser (attached images) and in Gedit. You can see that both the RTL webpage and Gedit can display the same output text very much better than the terminal, the order of the text is changed, and displays very nicely. Perhaps the only issue is from apt's translation side (they seem to have left 1 letter untranslated which is the M letter in "MB", which is giving the uncomfortable look), but aside from that, Gedit and the web browser can display the same text without issues, unlike in the GNOME Terminal which changes the order of the text. So to sum up, if my understanding is correct, are you saying that VTE actually supports displaying RTL/BiDi correctly, and this is just an issue in "applications" like apt, tmux, vim... etc, and they need to fix this issue from their side? I mean, it is an issue in the apps themselves, and not terminal emulators (like GNOME Terminal), correct? Thank you so much for your help, and for your work over the years. I am trying to make a small volunteering team to report all Arabic/RTL related bugs in Linux and open source software (we have sadly so many, like tens of them!), and we are gradually starting to report and investigate any bug. I would happily test any scenario or experiment to fix any Arabic or RTL-related bug. P.S: It sounds like Launchpad does not allow multiple image uploads (or I didn't find it), so I had to upload images one by one, sorry for that! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-terminal in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2002290 Title: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu: New Status in vte package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: VTE has a number of issues when it comes to rendering Arabic letters in the terminal, which could affect a number of languages (Arabic, Urdu, Persian... etc). Bug 1: Any Arabic word in any VTE-based terminal is choppily displayed with spaces between its letters, making readability hard and sometimes not possible. Sometimes the letters are crushed together very closely making reading impossible too. Bug 2: If a non-Arabic text and an Arabic text are displayed together in the same line, then the entire line will be missed up and you won't be able to understand what is being said. Both of these bugs can be seen from the image I attached. I reported both of these bugs together because it's unlikely they can be fixed separately, probably they are related to each other. Problem can be seen in any VTE-based terminal. Here I am using GNOME Terminal 3.44.0 on Ubuntu 22.04, but it can be seen in any Ubuntu version and in any terminal version as well (it has been there since forever). I reported the bug here instead of upstream because that's what they said at the page: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/ReportingBugs, but this bug is not related to Ubuntu only; it happens on all Linux distributions. Happy to provide any information you need, or any do tests or experiments. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 2002290] Re: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE
** Attachment added: "apt output in gedit.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vte/+bug/2002290/+attachment/5640503/+files/apt%20output%20in%20gedit.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-terminal in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2002290 Title: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu: New Status in vte package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: VTE has a number of issues when it comes to rendering Arabic letters in the terminal, which could affect a number of languages (Arabic, Urdu, Persian... etc). Bug 1: Any Arabic word in any VTE-based terminal is choppily displayed with spaces between its letters, making readability hard and sometimes not possible. Sometimes the letters are crushed together very closely making reading impossible too. Bug 2: If a non-Arabic text and an Arabic text are displayed together in the same line, then the entire line will be missed up and you won't be able to understand what is being said. Both of these bugs can be seen from the image I attached. I reported both of these bugs together because it's unlikely they can be fixed separately, probably they are related to each other. Problem can be seen in any VTE-based terminal. Here I am using GNOME Terminal 3.44.0 on Ubuntu 22.04, but it can be seen in any Ubuntu version and in any terminal version as well (it has been there since forever). I reported the bug here instead of upstream because that's what they said at the page: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/ReportingBugs, but this bug is not related to Ubuntu only; it happens on all Linux distributions. Happy to provide any information you need, or any do tests or experiments. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 2002290] Re: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE
Also I found the default Monospace used in Ubuntu. It is DejaVu Sans Mono: mhsabbagh@ubuntu2204:/$ fc-match monospace DejaVuSansMono.ttf: "DejaVu Sans Mono" "Book" -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-terminal in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2002290 Title: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu: New Status in vte package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: VTE has a number of issues when it comes to rendering Arabic letters in the terminal, which could affect a number of languages (Arabic, Urdu, Persian... etc). Bug 1: Any Arabic word in any VTE-based terminal is choppily displayed with spaces between its letters, making readability hard and sometimes not possible. Sometimes the letters are crushed together very closely making reading impossible too. Bug 2: If a non-Arabic text and an Arabic text are displayed together in the same line, then the entire line will be missed up and you won't be able to understand what is being said. Both of these bugs can be seen from the image I attached. I reported both of these bugs together because it's unlikely they can be fixed separately, probably they are related to each other. Problem can be seen in any VTE-based terminal. Here I am using GNOME Terminal 3.44.0 on Ubuntu 22.04, but it can be seen in any Ubuntu version and in any terminal version as well (it has been there since forever). I reported the bug here instead of upstream because that's what they said at the page: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/ReportingBugs, but this bug is not related to Ubuntu only; it happens on all Linux distributions. Happy to provide any information you need, or any do tests or experiments. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 2002290] Re: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE
** Attachment added: "lam-alif ligature in GNOME Terminal (without, with).png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+attachment/5640983/+files/lam-alif%20ligature%20in%20GNOME%20Terminal%20%28without%2C%20with%29.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-terminal in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2002290 Title: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu: New Status in vte package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: VTE has a number of issues when it comes to rendering Arabic letters in the terminal, which could affect a number of languages (Arabic, Urdu, Persian... etc). Bug 1: Any Arabic word in any VTE-based terminal is choppily displayed with spaces between its letters, making readability hard and sometimes not possible. Sometimes the letters are crushed together very closely making reading impossible too. Bug 2: If a non-Arabic text and an Arabic text are displayed together in the same line, then the entire line will be missed up and you won't be able to understand what is being said. Both of these bugs can be seen from the image I attached. I reported both of these bugs together because it's unlikely they can be fixed separately, probably they are related to each other. Problem can be seen in any VTE-based terminal. Here I am using GNOME Terminal 3.44.0 on Ubuntu 22.04, but it can be seen in any Ubuntu version and in any terminal version as well (it has been there since forever). I reported the bug here instead of upstream because that's what they said at the page: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/ReportingBugs, but this bug is not related to Ubuntu only; it happens on all Linux distributions. Happy to provide any information you need, or any do tests or experiments. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 2002290] Re: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE
** Attachment added: "VTE with RTL enabled.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+attachment/5640984/+files/VTE%20with%20RTL%20enabled.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-terminal in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2002290 Title: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu: New Status in vte package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: VTE has a number of issues when it comes to rendering Arabic letters in the terminal, which could affect a number of languages (Arabic, Urdu, Persian... etc). Bug 1: Any Arabic word in any VTE-based terminal is choppily displayed with spaces between its letters, making readability hard and sometimes not possible. Sometimes the letters are crushed together very closely making reading impossible too. Bug 2: If a non-Arabic text and an Arabic text are displayed together in the same line, then the entire line will be missed up and you won't be able to understand what is being said. Both of these bugs can be seen from the image I attached. I reported both of these bugs together because it's unlikely they can be fixed separately, probably they are related to each other. Problem can be seen in any VTE-based terminal. Here I am using GNOME Terminal 3.44.0 on Ubuntu 22.04, but it can be seen in any Ubuntu version and in any terminal version as well (it has been there since forever). I reported the bug here instead of upstream because that's what they said at the page: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/ReportingBugs, but this bug is not related to Ubuntu only; it happens on all Linux distributions. Happy to provide any information you need, or any do tests or experiments. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 2002290] Re: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE
Hi Egmont.
For bug 1, yes, fontconfig can be used for this. We even have a special
configuration file at /etc/fonts/conf.d/56-language-selector-ar.conf to
use a different font when the system language is Arabic (Noto Sans
Arabic). I believe it can be tweaked to use a custom Monospace font when
system language is Arabic like this:
monospace
DejaVu Sans Mono
Adding this to the file made the Monospace font change to DejaVu Sans Mono in
some places (e.g Gedit), but the GNOME Terminal was still using Ubuntu Mono for
some reason. I don't know why at the moment.
Perhaps I need to open a thread on Ubuntu Discourse. There are some i18n
guys there last time I remember. I will do that and see how we can
change the default font in the terminal for Arabic.
About lam-alif ligature, if you meant using the letter "alif" + letter
"lam" then they can be displayed in a good shape in the terminal. But if
you meant this one combined letter which has both alif and lam already
together then it is indeed broken in the terminal. However, not so many
Arabic people use this letter, and as a workaround, it can be written as
a normal lam + normal alif in order to be displayed like the first line
in my new attached screenshot. I think it's not a big deal for now.
For bug 2. Wow! Indeed as you said, it works well now and the text is
displayed correctly just like in Gedit. I attached a screenshot.
Is there a way where we can use this "printf '\e[?2501h'" workaround in
the GNOME Terminal in Ubuntu, at least only when the Arabic language is
set for the system by default? If the user is an Arabic-based user, then
it makes sense to offer this advantage for him/her in the terminal I
believe.
For example, we can append this by default to ~/.bashrc:
systemlanguage=${LANG:0:2}
if [ $systemlanguage == "ar" ]; then printf '\e[?2501h'; fi
If the system language is "ar", it will enable the auto-detection of
paragraph direction in the VTE session. What do you think? I can suggest
this in the Ubuntu Discourse too for the i18n guys.
Thank you Egmont for your help!
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Title:
Poor Arabic rendering in VTE
Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu:
New
Status in vte package in Ubuntu:
New
Bug description:
VTE has a number of issues when it comes to rendering Arabic letters
in the terminal, which could affect a number of languages (Arabic,
Urdu, Persian... etc).
Bug 1: Any Arabic word in any VTE-based terminal is choppily displayed
with spaces between its letters, making readability hard and sometimes
not possible. Sometimes the letters are crushed together very closely
making reading impossible too.
Bug 2: If a non-Arabic text and an Arabic text are displayed together
in the same line, then the entire line will be missed up and you won't
be able to understand what is being said.
Both of these bugs can be seen from the image I attached.
I reported both of these bugs together because it's unlikely they can
be fixed separately, probably they are related to each other.
Problem can be seen in any VTE-based terminal. Here I am using GNOME
Terminal 3.44.0 on Ubuntu 22.04, but it can be seen in any Ubuntu
version and in any terminal version as well (it has been there since
forever).
I reported the bug here instead of upstream because that's what they
said at the page: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/ReportingBugs,
but this bug is not related to Ubuntu only; it happens on all Linux
distributions.
Happy to provide any information you need, or any do tests or
experiments.
To manage notifications about this bug go to:
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[Desktop-packages] [Bug 2002290] Re: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE
** Attachment added: "VTE BiDi autodetect.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+attachment/5641431/+files/VTE%20BiDi%20autodetect.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-terminal in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2002290 Title: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu: New Status in vte2.91 package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: VTE has a number of issues when it comes to rendering Arabic letters in the terminal, which could affect a number of languages (Arabic, Urdu, Persian... etc). Bug 1: Any Arabic word in any VTE-based terminal is choppily displayed with spaces between its letters, making readability hard and sometimes not possible. Sometimes the letters are crushed together very closely making reading impossible too. Bug 2: If a non-Arabic text and an Arabic text are displayed together in the same line, then the entire line will be missed up and you won't be able to understand what is being said. Both of these bugs can be seen from the image I attached. I reported both of these bugs together because it's unlikely they can be fixed separately, probably they are related to each other. Problem can be seen in any VTE-based terminal. Here I am using GNOME Terminal 3.44.0 on Ubuntu 22.04, but it can be seen in any Ubuntu version and in any terminal version as well (it has been there since forever). I reported the bug here instead of upstream because that's what they said at the page: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/ReportingBugs, but this bug is not related to Ubuntu only; it happens on all Linux distributions. Happy to provide any information you need, or any do tests or experiments. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 2002290] Re: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE
** Attachment added: "VTE BiDi LTR base.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+attachment/5641433/+files/VTE%20BiDi%20LTR%20base.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-terminal in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2002290 Title: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu: New Status in vte2.91 package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: VTE has a number of issues when it comes to rendering Arabic letters in the terminal, which could affect a number of languages (Arabic, Urdu, Persian... etc). Bug 1: Any Arabic word in any VTE-based terminal is choppily displayed with spaces between its letters, making readability hard and sometimes not possible. Sometimes the letters are crushed together very closely making reading impossible too. Bug 2: If a non-Arabic text and an Arabic text are displayed together in the same line, then the entire line will be missed up and you won't be able to understand what is being said. Both of these bugs can be seen from the image I attached. I reported both of these bugs together because it's unlikely they can be fixed separately, probably they are related to each other. Problem can be seen in any VTE-based terminal. Here I am using GNOME Terminal 3.44.0 on Ubuntu 22.04, but it can be seen in any Ubuntu version and in any terminal version as well (it has been there since forever). I reported the bug here instead of upstream because that's what they said at the page: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/ReportingBugs, but this bug is not related to Ubuntu only; it happens on all Linux distributions. Happy to provide any information you need, or any do tests or experiments. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 2002290] Re: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE
** Attachment added: "VTE BiDi RTL base.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+attachment/5641432/+files/VTE%20BiDi%20RTL%20base.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-terminal in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2002290 Title: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu: New Status in vte2.91 package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: VTE has a number of issues when it comes to rendering Arabic letters in the terminal, which could affect a number of languages (Arabic, Urdu, Persian... etc). Bug 1: Any Arabic word in any VTE-based terminal is choppily displayed with spaces between its letters, making readability hard and sometimes not possible. Sometimes the letters are crushed together very closely making reading impossible too. Bug 2: If a non-Arabic text and an Arabic text are displayed together in the same line, then the entire line will be missed up and you won't be able to understand what is being said. Both of these bugs can be seen from the image I attached. I reported both of these bugs together because it's unlikely they can be fixed separately, probably they are related to each other. Problem can be seen in any VTE-based terminal. Here I am using GNOME Terminal 3.44.0 on Ubuntu 22.04, but it can be seen in any Ubuntu version and in any terminal version as well (it has been there since forever). I reported the bug here instead of upstream because that's what they said at the page: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/ReportingBugs, but this bug is not related to Ubuntu only; it happens on all Linux distributions. Happy to provide any information you need, or any do tests or experiments. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 2002290] Re: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE
Hi Egmond. Thank you for the info. About lam-alif: Yes, you are right. It indeed is displayed like a U in my screenshot, although it should have been similar to a "y", but as you said, it is not that terribly bad and can be read without an issue. Perhaps we can improve it in a future work! About RTL bug: I have searched and found the following file from you regarding the modes you described: https://github.com/skirino/vte/blob/master/perf/bidi.sh And I tried the following modes: - alias ltr='printf "\e[1 k"' - alias rtl='printf "\e[2 k"' I attached images for how they look like (Also a 3rd screenshot for autodetect again). The RTL base one would have been good if the user is expected to write everything 100% in Arabic. However that's not the case; normal commands are written in English but the output of the commands may be Arabic, and some strings may not be translated. You can see how the Shell interrupter is displayed totally missed up if you write one line in English, and the other line in Arabic. In fact, if you try to write in English using RTL base, then you will notice that the shell interrupter is moving to the left side with you as you write! :D I think it would be good if someone developed a command line based tool in Arabic/RTL languages, then he/she can opt for using this mode by default (because their application is 100% for RTL-based audience), but in the normal average terminal it would be a horrible user experience. The LTR one was just like the default situation in VTE. The text is not displayed good if it was Arabic and the line gets messed up. Please tell me if you need more tests or experiments, I would be happy to provide them. Yes, of course we can also add Urdu and Persian and other RTL-based languages to the list from $locale, it was just a simple example. Thank you again Egmont for taking time to do all this work and respond here. Best. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-terminal in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2002290 Title: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu: New Status in vte2.91 package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: VTE has a number of issues when it comes to rendering Arabic letters in the terminal, which could affect a number of languages (Arabic, Urdu, Persian... etc). Bug 1: Any Arabic word in any VTE-based terminal is choppily displayed with spaces between its letters, making readability hard and sometimes not possible. Sometimes the letters are crushed together very closely making reading impossible too. Bug 2: If a non-Arabic text and an Arabic text are displayed together in the same line, then the entire line will be missed up and you won't be able to understand what is being said. Both of these bugs can be seen from the image I attached. I reported both of these bugs together because it's unlikely they can be fixed separately, probably they are related to each other. Problem can be seen in any VTE-based terminal. Here I am using GNOME Terminal 3.44.0 on Ubuntu 22.04, but it can be seen in any Ubuntu version and in any terminal version as well (it has been there since forever). I reported the bug here instead of upstream because that's what they said at the page: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/ReportingBugs, but this bug is not related to Ubuntu only; it happens on all Linux distributions. Happy to provide any information you need, or any do tests or experiments. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 2002290] Re: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE
Thank you Gunnar, for the help! Indeed it works well on my testing (image attached); GNOME Terminal's custom font option is disabled (so it is using the default font), and Ubuntu Mono is still used in GNOME Tweaks, and still the GNOME Terminal now uses Monospace font by default, making the first problem solved. Thanks again for the help. Best. ** Attachment added: "gnome terminal with default monospace font.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vte2.91/+bug/2002290/+attachment/5643448/+files/gnome%20terminal%20with%20default%20monospace%20font.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-terminal in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2002290 Title: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu: In Progress Status in vte2.91 package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: VTE has a number of issues when it comes to rendering Arabic letters in the terminal, which could affect a number of languages (Arabic, Urdu, Persian... etc). Bug 1: Any Arabic word in any VTE-based terminal is choppily displayed with spaces between its letters, making readability hard and sometimes not possible. Sometimes the letters are crushed together very closely making reading impossible too. Bug 2: If a non-Arabic text and an Arabic text are displayed together in the same line, then the entire line will be missed up and you won't be able to understand what is being said. Both of these bugs can be seen from the image I attached. I reported both of these bugs together because it's unlikely they can be fixed separately, probably they are related to each other. Problem can be seen in any VTE-based terminal. Here I am using GNOME Terminal 3.44.0 on Ubuntu 22.04, but it can be seen in any Ubuntu version and in any terminal version as well (it has been there since forever). I reported the bug here instead of upstream because that's what they said at the page: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/ReportingBugs, but this bug is not related to Ubuntu only; it happens on all Linux distributions. Happy to provide any information you need, or any do tests or experiments. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 2002290] Re: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE
Thank you Gunnar for fixing the font issue in gnome terminal. So now, we can say that bug 1 is fixed. The only thing that remains is related to bug 2 and the RTL text auto-detection in VTE. I am yet to hear from Egmont on anything we can do in this regard. I hope we can find a solution to use the auto-detection feature by default in VTE, so that the RTL issue gets fixed not just for Arabic but for many other languages as well, and not just in GNOME Terminal but basically in any terminal that uses VTE. Happy to provide any tests or do any experiments you would like. Best! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-terminal in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2002290 Title: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in vte2.91 package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: VTE has a number of issues when it comes to rendering Arabic letters in the terminal, which could affect a number of languages (Arabic, Urdu, Persian... etc). Bug 1: Any Arabic word in any VTE-based terminal is choppily displayed with spaces between its letters, making readability hard and sometimes not possible. Sometimes the letters are crushed together very closely making reading impossible too. Bug 2: If a non-Arabic text and an Arabic text are displayed together in the same line, then the entire line will be missed up and you won't be able to understand what is being said. Both of these bugs can be seen from the image I attached. I reported both of these bugs together because it's unlikely they can be fixed separately, probably they are related to each other. Problem can be seen in any VTE-based terminal. Here I am using GNOME Terminal 3.44.0 on Ubuntu 22.04, but it can be seen in any Ubuntu version and in any terminal version as well (it has been there since forever). I reported the bug here instead of upstream because that's what they said at the page: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/ReportingBugs, but this bug is not related to Ubuntu only; it happens on all Linux distributions. Happy to provide any information you need, or any do tests or experiments. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 2002290] Re: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE
@Gunnar: Thank you for the continous help. I have tested the new update and indeed it now respects the font size of Monospace font in GNOME Tweaks (image attached). Thanks again! ** Attachment added: "gnome-terminal new monospace.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+attachment/5647490/+files/gnome-terminal%20new%20monospace.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-terminal in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2002290 Title: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in vte2.91 package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: VTE has a number of issues when it comes to rendering Arabic letters in the terminal, which could affect a number of languages (Arabic, Urdu, Persian... etc). Bug 1: Any Arabic word in any VTE-based terminal is choppily displayed with spaces between its letters, making readability hard and sometimes not possible. Sometimes the letters are crushed together very closely making reading impossible too. Bug 2: If a non-Arabic text and an Arabic text are displayed together in the same line, then the entire line will be missed up and you won't be able to understand what is being said. Both of these bugs can be seen from the image I attached. I reported both of these bugs together because it's unlikely they can be fixed separately, probably they are related to each other. Problem can be seen in any VTE-based terminal. Here I am using GNOME Terminal 3.44.0 on Ubuntu 22.04, but it can be seen in any Ubuntu version and in any terminal version as well (it has been there since forever). I reported the bug here instead of upstream because that's what they said at the page: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/ReportingBugs, but this bug is not related to Ubuntu only; it happens on all Linux distributions. Happy to provide any information you need, or any do tests or experiments. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 2002290] Re: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE
** Attachment added: "nano output with LTR.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+attachment/5647493/+files/nano%20output%20with%20LTR.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-terminal in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2002290 Title: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in vte2.91 package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: VTE has a number of issues when it comes to rendering Arabic letters in the terminal, which could affect a number of languages (Arabic, Urdu, Persian... etc). Bug 1: Any Arabic word in any VTE-based terminal is choppily displayed with spaces between its letters, making readability hard and sometimes not possible. Sometimes the letters are crushed together very closely making reading impossible too. Bug 2: If a non-Arabic text and an Arabic text are displayed together in the same line, then the entire line will be missed up and you won't be able to understand what is being said. Both of these bugs can be seen from the image I attached. I reported both of these bugs together because it's unlikely they can be fixed separately, probably they are related to each other. Problem can be seen in any VTE-based terminal. Here I am using GNOME Terminal 3.44.0 on Ubuntu 22.04, but it can be seen in any Ubuntu version and in any terminal version as well (it has been there since forever). I reported the bug here instead of upstream because that's what they said at the page: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/ReportingBugs, but this bug is not related to Ubuntu only; it happens on all Linux distributions. Happy to provide any information you need, or any do tests or experiments. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 2002290] Re: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE
** Attachment added: "cat output with LTR.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+attachment/5647492/+files/cat%20output%20with%20LTR.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-terminal in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2002290 Title: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in vte2.91 package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: VTE has a number of issues when it comes to rendering Arabic letters in the terminal, which could affect a number of languages (Arabic, Urdu, Persian... etc). Bug 1: Any Arabic word in any VTE-based terminal is choppily displayed with spaces between its letters, making readability hard and sometimes not possible. Sometimes the letters are crushed together very closely making reading impossible too. Bug 2: If a non-Arabic text and an Arabic text are displayed together in the same line, then the entire line will be missed up and you won't be able to understand what is being said. Both of these bugs can be seen from the image I attached. I reported both of these bugs together because it's unlikely they can be fixed separately, probably they are related to each other. Problem can be seen in any VTE-based terminal. Here I am using GNOME Terminal 3.44.0 on Ubuntu 22.04, but it can be seen in any Ubuntu version and in any terminal version as well (it has been there since forever). I reported the bug here instead of upstream because that's what they said at the page: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/ReportingBugs, but this bug is not related to Ubuntu only; it happens on all Linux distributions. Happy to provide any information you need, or any do tests or experiments. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 2002290] Re: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE
** Attachment added: "cat output with autodetect.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+attachment/5647491/+files/cat%20output%20with%20autodetect.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-terminal in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2002290 Title: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in vte2.91 package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: VTE has a number of issues when it comes to rendering Arabic letters in the terminal, which could affect a number of languages (Arabic, Urdu, Persian... etc). Bug 1: Any Arabic word in any VTE-based terminal is choppily displayed with spaces between its letters, making readability hard and sometimes not possible. Sometimes the letters are crushed together very closely making reading impossible too. Bug 2: If a non-Arabic text and an Arabic text are displayed together in the same line, then the entire line will be missed up and you won't be able to understand what is being said. Both of these bugs can be seen from the image I attached. I reported both of these bugs together because it's unlikely they can be fixed separately, probably they are related to each other. Problem can be seen in any VTE-based terminal. Here I am using GNOME Terminal 3.44.0 on Ubuntu 22.04, but it can be seen in any Ubuntu version and in any terminal version as well (it has been there since forever). I reported the bug here instead of upstream because that's what they said at the page: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/ReportingBugs, but this bug is not related to Ubuntu only; it happens on all Linux distributions. Happy to provide any information you need, or any do tests or experiments. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 2002290] Re: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE
** Attachment added: "nano output with autodetect.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+attachment/5647494/+files/nano%20output%20with%20autodetect.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-terminal in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2002290 Title: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in vte2.91 package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: VTE has a number of issues when it comes to rendering Arabic letters in the terminal, which could affect a number of languages (Arabic, Urdu, Persian... etc). Bug 1: Any Arabic word in any VTE-based terminal is choppily displayed with spaces between its letters, making readability hard and sometimes not possible. Sometimes the letters are crushed together very closely making reading impossible too. Bug 2: If a non-Arabic text and an Arabic text are displayed together in the same line, then the entire line will be missed up and you won't be able to understand what is being said. Both of these bugs can be seen from the image I attached. I reported both of these bugs together because it's unlikely they can be fixed separately, probably they are related to each other. Problem can be seen in any VTE-based terminal. Here I am using GNOME Terminal 3.44.0 on Ubuntu 22.04, but it can be seen in any Ubuntu version and in any terminal version as well (it has been there since forever). I reported the bug here instead of upstream because that's what they said at the page: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/ReportingBugs, but this bug is not related to Ubuntu only; it happens on all Linux distributions. Happy to provide any information you need, or any do tests or experiments. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 2002290] Re: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE
@Egmont: Thank you for the valuable feedback. First I would like to ask you to forgive me if some of my words are not clear or vague; I am not a native English speaker so it is a little bit hard when I write long responses like this. I hope I am correctly delivering my ideas to you and others. I just would like to confirm again that my proposal is related to changing the default text behavior in VTE *only for Arabic/RTL-based languages*. Languages like Arabic, Persian, Urdu, Hebrew... etc and only these. Other users of English, French, Italian and other languages do not need to endure this change (because they do not need autodetection or RTL text). Hence, we are talking about a change that would not affect 95% of the user base. I understand your concern and that we may still need to do further testing. And I will work on providing more test cases for various applications. Still, I wholeheartedly believe that any Arabic/RTL user would be quite happy with this proposed change because it makes the RTL text rendering so much better regardless of the application, terminal emulator or Linux distribution used. (I will provide more of these examples). Ideally, there shouldn't be a text in other languages when the system language is set to Arabic. E.g the output of "apt" should be fully translated to Arabic, and the interface text for "nano" should be translated too, which ultimately should result in a much better UX for Arabic users. That is, the entire command line interface be translated to Arabic and supportive of RTL text. Everything from Python/C/Rush syntax errors or outputs, all the way up to tools like apt, nano, vi or emacs. This is a very long journey and it may take many years until we reach that point. However, in order to get there, we need to start somewhere. One of the main reasons perhaps why no Arabic users provided feedback all these years is that Arabic or RTL support needs a huge investment in terms of effort to make it feasible for the end user. And so far no one stepped up to do that effort. We need efforts in both the fields of translation + RTL support to make this happen. Sadly, we are missing on both. I believe if we succeed in supporting RTL applications in the terminal and fixing the bugs we are currently facing, then this could open the door for a wide range of CLI-based computing for RTL languages speakers. We could have command line tools that fully support these languages (even RTL TUIs!), instead of just English as we have today. We could finally print correctly formatted Python error messages in Arabic instead of being afraid to translate it; because we know it wouldn't render correctly in the LTR terminal. I want to add a few additional reasons on why feedback is small regarding your work on RTL: - I honestly didn't hear about it although I am invested in Linux and open source software for 13 years in the Arabic Linux communities. I was surprised to know that RTL support is already there in VTE. I think that I came across a social media post once that talks about it in 2020, but because of Coronavirus and how all of our lives were missed up, I just couldn't give it enough attention at that time. - The political factor is also important. I don't want to talk about politics here of course, but currently, all RTL-speaking nations are in chaos; the middle east is full of wars and issues (Arabic), and the people of Iran (Persian) have their issues too. Afghanistan/Pakistan both have their problems as well with the recent events (Urdu), Israel (Hebrew)... And so on. In such circumstances, the interest in open source software or Linux, yet in terminal-based applications, or even more in bugs related to text rendering (RTL) in the terminal, would be quite small and considered to be luxurious for most people. The open source userbase from these countries in general is already small, so it's rare to find someone capable of following these topics and providing further feedback. I am writing this reply to you from Turkey, where 40K people were killed last week in the earthquake that happened (also in Syria). So overall, nothing is stable in these lands, including the land itself. - The dominant majority of Arabic users at least are using English as a system-wide language. When I made polls asking them why, they say that there are many bugs and problems in Arabic support in general on Linux, so they just give up on the whole thing and decide to use English everywhere, although it is not their main language. (For such users btw, our proposal does not affect them). - I would like to repeat the fact that the Arabic/RTL-based languages user base is quite small; I rarely see someone using Linux here (other than developers). Most people use Windows or macOS just like everywhere. However, if we wanted to promote Linux more in these communities, then we need to make sure that there are no blocking bugs or issues related to Arabic with open source software. And th
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 2002290] [NEW] Poor Arabic rendering in VTE
Public bug reported: VTE has a number of issues when it comes to rendering Arabic letters in the terminal, which could affect a number of languages (Arabic, Urdu, Persian... etc). Bug 1: Any Arabic word in any VTE-based terminal is choppily displayed with spaces between its letters, making readability hard and sometimes not possible. Sometimes the letters are crushed together very closely making reading impossible too. Bug 2: If a non-Arabic text and an Arabic text are displayed together in the same line, then the entire line will be missed up and you won't be able to understand what is being said. Both of these bugs can be seen from the image I attached. I reported both of these bugs together because it's unlikely they can be fixed separately, probably they are related to each other. Problem can be seen in any VTE-based terminal. Here I am using GNOME Terminal 3.44.0 on Ubuntu 22.04, but it can be seen in any Ubuntu version and in any terminal version as well (it has been there since forever). I reported the bug here instead of upstream because that's what they said at the page: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/ReportingBugs, but this bug is not related to Ubuntu only; it happens on all Linux distributions. Happy to provide any information you need, or any do tests or experiments. ** Affects: gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Affects: vte (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Attachment added: "Image demonstrating the issues" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2002290/+attachment/5640107/+files/2023-01-09_10-18.png ** Also affects: gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to vte in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2002290 Title: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu: New Status in vte package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: VTE has a number of issues when it comes to rendering Arabic letters in the terminal, which could affect a number of languages (Arabic, Urdu, Persian... etc). Bug 1: Any Arabic word in any VTE-based terminal is choppily displayed with spaces between its letters, making readability hard and sometimes not possible. Sometimes the letters are crushed together very closely making reading impossible too. Bug 2: If a non-Arabic text and an Arabic text are displayed together in the same line, then the entire line will be missed up and you won't be able to understand what is being said. Both of these bugs can be seen from the image I attached. I reported both of these bugs together because it's unlikely they can be fixed separately, probably they are related to each other. Problem can be seen in any VTE-based terminal. Here I am using GNOME Terminal 3.44.0 on Ubuntu 22.04, but it can be seen in any Ubuntu version and in any terminal version as well (it has been there since forever). I reported the bug here instead of upstream because that's what they said at the page: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/ReportingBugs, but this bug is not related to Ubuntu only; it happens on all Linux distributions. Happy to provide any information you need, or any do tests or experiments. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 2002290] Re: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE
** Attachment added: "gnome terminal with Monospace 9 font.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vte/+bug/2002290/+attachment/5640499/+files/gnome%20terminal%20with%20Monospace%209%20font.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-terminal in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2002290 Title: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu: New Status in vte package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: VTE has a number of issues when it comes to rendering Arabic letters in the terminal, which could affect a number of languages (Arabic, Urdu, Persian... etc). Bug 1: Any Arabic word in any VTE-based terminal is choppily displayed with spaces between its letters, making readability hard and sometimes not possible. Sometimes the letters are crushed together very closely making reading impossible too. Bug 2: If a non-Arabic text and an Arabic text are displayed together in the same line, then the entire line will be missed up and you won't be able to understand what is being said. Both of these bugs can be seen from the image I attached. I reported both of these bugs together because it's unlikely they can be fixed separately, probably they are related to each other. Problem can be seen in any VTE-based terminal. Here I am using GNOME Terminal 3.44.0 on Ubuntu 22.04, but it can be seen in any Ubuntu version and in any terminal version as well (it has been there since forever). I reported the bug here instead of upstream because that's what they said at the page: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/ReportingBugs, but this bug is not related to Ubuntu only; it happens on all Linux distributions. Happy to provide any information you need, or any do tests or experiments. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 2002290] Re: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE
** Attachment added: "gnome terminal with Monospace 12.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vte/+bug/2002290/+attachment/5640500/+files/gnome%20terminal%20with%20Monospace%2012.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to gnome-terminal in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/2002290 Title: Poor Arabic rendering in VTE Status in gnome-terminal package in Ubuntu: New Status in vte package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: VTE has a number of issues when it comes to rendering Arabic letters in the terminal, which could affect a number of languages (Arabic, Urdu, Persian... etc). Bug 1: Any Arabic word in any VTE-based terminal is choppily displayed with spaces between its letters, making readability hard and sometimes not possible. Sometimes the letters are crushed together very closely making reading impossible too. Bug 2: If a non-Arabic text and an Arabic text are displayed together in the same line, then the entire line will be missed up and you won't be able to understand what is being said. Both of these bugs can be seen from the image I attached. I reported both of these bugs together because it's unlikely they can be fixed separately, probably they are related to each other. Problem can be seen in any VTE-based terminal. Here I am using GNOME Terminal 3.44.0 on Ubuntu 22.04, but it can be seen in any Ubuntu version and in any terminal version as well (it has been there since forever). I reported the bug here instead of upstream because that's what they said at the page: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Terminal/ReportingBugs, but this bug is not related to Ubuntu only; it happens on all Linux distributions. Happy to provide any information you need, or any do tests or experiments. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/2002290/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1752938] Re: Upgrading Ubuntu 18.04 disables GPU hardware acceleration
Confirmed here too. Instead of using my Intel 520 HD, the system is using: "llvmpipe (LLVM 6.0, 256 bits)" (The details section from GNOME Center). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to xorg in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1752938 Title: Upgrading Ubuntu 18.04 disables GPU hardware acceleration Status in xorg package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: I don't know which package causes this problem. The thing is ugrading Ubuntu 18.04 disables my GPU hardware acceleration. glxinfo_before_upgrade OpenGL vendor string: X.Org OpenGL renderer string: Radeon RX 560 Series (POLARIS11 / DRM 3.23.0 / 4.15.0-10-generic, LLVM 5.0.1) OpenGL core profile version string: 4.5 (Core Profile) Mesa 17.3.3 glxinfo_after_upgrade OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc. OpenGL renderer string: llvmpipe (LLVM 5.0, 256 bits) OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 17.3.3 This problem is reproducible. Steps to reproduce: 1. Install Ubuntu 18.04 daily live. I've tried Kubuntu 18.04 Feb 26's daily live(the installer in Mar 1 crashes which prevents me from installing it) and Xubuntu 18.04 Mar 2's daily live. Ubuntu is utilizing my GPU in live cd session and after the fresh install Ubuntu is also utilizing my GPU. 2. Reboot into the newly installed system, do a dist-upgrade and reboot again. Opengl renderer falls back to llvmpipe. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 18.04 Package: xorg 1:7.7+19ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.15.0-10.11-generic 4.15.3 Uname: Linux 4.15.0-10-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.8-0ubuntu10 Architecture: amd64 BootLog: Error: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/log/boot.log' CompositorRunning: None CurrentDesktop: XFCE Date: Sat Mar 3 00:58:35 2018 DistUpgraded: Fresh install DistroCodename: bionic DistroVariant: ubuntu ExtraDebuggingInterest: Yes, if not too technical GraphicsCard: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Baffin [Polaris11] [1002:67ff] (rev cf) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Baffin [Radeon RX 560] [1043:04be] InstallationDate: Installed on 2018-03-02 (0 days ago) InstallationMedia: Xubuntu 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver" - Alpha amd64 (20180302) MachineType: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. B85M-D3V-A ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-10-generic.efi.signed root=UUID=d2dcc7eb-84ca-4102-9ae1-239de26d113c ro quiet splash vt.handoff=1 Renderer: Software SourcePackage: xorg Symptom: display UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) dmi.bios.date: 02/12/2015 dmi.bios.vendor: American Megatrends Inc. dmi.bios.version: F2 dmi.board.asset.tag: To be filled by O.E.M. dmi.board.name: B85M-D3V-A dmi.board.vendor: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. dmi.board.version: x.x dmi.chassis.asset.tag: To Be Filled By O.E.M. dmi.chassis.type: 3 dmi.chassis.vendor: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. dmi.chassis.version: To Be Filled By O.E.M. dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnAmericanMegatrendsInc.:bvrF2:bd02/12/2015:svnGigabyteTechnologyCo.,Ltd.:pnB85M-D3V-A:pvrTobefilledbyO.E.M.:rvnGigabyteTechnologyCo.,Ltd.:rnB85M-D3V-A:rvrx.x:cvnGigabyteTechnologyCo.,Ltd.:ct3:cvrToBeFilledByO.E.M.: dmi.product.family: To be filled by O.E.M. dmi.product.name: B85M-D3V-A dmi.product.version: To be filled by O.E.M. dmi.sys.vendor: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. version.compiz: compiz N/A version.libdrm2: libdrm2 2.4.90-1 version.libgl1-mesa-dri: libgl1-mesa-dri 17.3.3-0ubuntu1 version.libgl1-mesa-glx: libgl1-mesa-glx 17.3.3-0ubuntu1 version.xserver-xorg-core: xserver-xorg-core 2:1.19.6-1ubuntu2 version.xserver-xorg-input-evdev: xserver-xorg-input-evdev N/A version.xserver-xorg-video-ati: xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:7.10.0-1 version.xserver-xorg-video-intel: xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.99.917+git20171229-1 version.xserver-xorg-video-nouveau: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:1.0.15-2 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1752938/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 1752938] Re: Upgrading Ubuntu 18.04 disables GPU hardware acceleration
Xorg log file, containing some error messages "No input driver specified". ** Attachment added: "Xorg log file" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1752938/+attachment/5131232/+files/Xorg.0.log -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to xorg in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1752938 Title: Upgrading Ubuntu 18.04 disables GPU hardware acceleration Status in xorg package in Ubuntu: Confirmed Bug description: I don't know which package causes this problem. The thing is ugrading Ubuntu 18.04 disables my GPU hardware acceleration. glxinfo_before_upgrade OpenGL vendor string: X.Org OpenGL renderer string: Radeon RX 560 Series (POLARIS11 / DRM 3.23.0 / 4.15.0-10-generic, LLVM 5.0.1) OpenGL core profile version string: 4.5 (Core Profile) Mesa 17.3.3 glxinfo_after_upgrade OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc. OpenGL renderer string: llvmpipe (LLVM 5.0, 256 bits) OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 17.3.3 This problem is reproducible. Steps to reproduce: 1. Install Ubuntu 18.04 daily live. I've tried Kubuntu 18.04 Feb 26's daily live(the installer in Mar 1 crashes which prevents me from installing it) and Xubuntu 18.04 Mar 2's daily live. Ubuntu is utilizing my GPU in live cd session and after the fresh install Ubuntu is also utilizing my GPU. 2. Reboot into the newly installed system, do a dist-upgrade and reboot again. Opengl renderer falls back to llvmpipe. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 18.04 Package: xorg 1:7.7+19ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.15.0-10.11-generic 4.15.3 Uname: Linux 4.15.0-10-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.20.8-0ubuntu10 Architecture: amd64 BootLog: Error: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/var/log/boot.log' CompositorRunning: None CurrentDesktop: XFCE Date: Sat Mar 3 00:58:35 2018 DistUpgraded: Fresh install DistroCodename: bionic DistroVariant: ubuntu ExtraDebuggingInterest: Yes, if not too technical GraphicsCard: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Baffin [Polaris11] [1002:67ff] (rev cf) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Baffin [Radeon RX 560] [1043:04be] InstallationDate: Installed on 2018-03-02 (0 days ago) InstallationMedia: Xubuntu 18.04 LTS "Bionic Beaver" - Alpha amd64 (20180302) MachineType: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. B85M-D3V-A ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-10-generic.efi.signed root=UUID=d2dcc7eb-84ca-4102-9ae1-239de26d113c ro quiet splash vt.handoff=1 Renderer: Software SourcePackage: xorg Symptom: display UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) dmi.bios.date: 02/12/2015 dmi.bios.vendor: American Megatrends Inc. dmi.bios.version: F2 dmi.board.asset.tag: To be filled by O.E.M. dmi.board.name: B85M-D3V-A dmi.board.vendor: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. dmi.board.version: x.x dmi.chassis.asset.tag: To Be Filled By O.E.M. dmi.chassis.type: 3 dmi.chassis.vendor: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. dmi.chassis.version: To Be Filled By O.E.M. dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnAmericanMegatrendsInc.:bvrF2:bd02/12/2015:svnGigabyteTechnologyCo.,Ltd.:pnB85M-D3V-A:pvrTobefilledbyO.E.M.:rvnGigabyteTechnologyCo.,Ltd.:rnB85M-D3V-A:rvrx.x:cvnGigabyteTechnologyCo.,Ltd.:ct3:cvrToBeFilledByO.E.M.: dmi.product.family: To be filled by O.E.M. dmi.product.name: B85M-D3V-A dmi.product.version: To be filled by O.E.M. dmi.sys.vendor: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. version.compiz: compiz N/A version.libdrm2: libdrm2 2.4.90-1 version.libgl1-mesa-dri: libgl1-mesa-dri 17.3.3-0ubuntu1 version.libgl1-mesa-glx: libgl1-mesa-glx 17.3.3-0ubuntu1 version.xserver-xorg-core: xserver-xorg-core 2:1.19.6-1ubuntu2 version.xserver-xorg-input-evdev: xserver-xorg-input-evdev N/A version.xserver-xorg-video-ati: xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:7.10.0-1 version.xserver-xorg-video-intel: xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.99.917+git20171229-1 version.xserver-xorg-video-nouveau: xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:1.0.15-2 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1752938/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Desktop-packages] [Bug 952956] Re: lightdm not is not loging to sessions in 12.04~B1..
Hey Robert, 4 years is not a long time, isn't? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Desktop Packages, which is subscribed to lightdm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/952956 Title: lightdm not is not loging to sessions in 12.04~B1.. Status in lightdm package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: using ubuntu 12.04~Beta 1 and kernel "3.2.0-8-generic-pae #15-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 11 15:34:57 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux", lightdm 1.1.7. after make a "sudo apt-get upgrade" command and restarting, i couldn't log in to the sessions using lightdm, when i write the password and choose the session i want and press enter, lightdm log me out in the same sec, and i can't login, and i am writing this bug report using the recovery mode then i run "gnome-shell --replace" so i can get in so the session.. any fix? thanks. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04 Package: lightdm (not installed) ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-8.15-generic-pae 3.2.0 Uname: Linux 3.2.0-8-generic-pae i686 ApportVersion: 1.94.1-0ubuntu2 Architecture: i386 Date: Mon Mar 12 14:32:39 2012 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS "Precise Pangolin" - Alpha i386 (20120112) ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=ar:en TERM=xterm PATH=(custom, no user) LANG=ar_SY.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: lightdm UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/952956/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages Post to : desktop-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~desktop-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
