Savage3D crashes when switching to full screen in X (crash in 4.3.0 only!)

2003-08-12 Thread ralf
Hi,

today I tried your experimental packages from deb experimental (4.3.0-0pre1v1).
When I use my savage 3d (actually hercules terminator beast) graphics card and try to 
watch a movie using the current avifile from unstable (0.7.38.20030710-1) (+ icewm)
it works ... well almost: when trying to switch to full screen mode, my computer hangs 
completely and can only be resetted (keyboard, etc. dead, monitor first issues a
warning of the refresh rate being out of spec then shuts down, ...). I didn't find 
anything of interest in the log files (those that weren't corrupted during the crash
;-) ).
However, when I plug in a matrox g200 graphics card the full screen mode works fine 
(well it seems to take longer that in 4.2.1. but I works).
Note, that when I used xfree86 from unstable (4.2.1-9) + Tim Roberts's latest 4.2.x 
binary driver savage_drv.o (since the original savage_drv.o from 4.2.1-9 is not able to
set a resolution/refresh rate that my monitor likes), my savage3d card had no problems 
with the full screen mode (i.e. it worked and did not crash my machine).
Thus I tried Tim Roberts's 4.3.0 binary driver, but without success (full screen mode 
crashes, too).

Hence I observe the problem in xfree86 4.3.0 only and not in the predecessor version 
(4.2.1). It seems that a change in the code that makes the switch to fullscreen mode
makes my system go belly up with the savage3d graphics card/driver but not with 
another graphics card (matrox g200).

Best regards and thanx for all your work,
Ralf


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Re: xfree86 4.3.0-pre1v1 sources ?

2003-08-12 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 01:34:56PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 09:28:15PM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 12:48:45PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > BTW, is it to early to upload my gnome-randr-applet package, which
> > > depends on 4.3.0 ? I have it ready for month, but couldn't upload it
> > > previously. If i upload it to experimental, it should enter experimental
> > > together with xfree86, but then, maybe i should wait to have an official
> > > 4.3.0 package in unstable ?
> > 
> > I don't see why you shouldn't upload it to experimental now.
> 
> I just need a 4.3.0 package to build with. The -0ds4 would not be ok,
> since it will not have the right dependencies.

BTW, i have this problem with the packages :

  $ lintian gnome-randr-applet_0.2-0.1_i386.deb 
  E: gnome-randr-applet: package-has-a-duplicate-relation
xlibs (>> 4.1.0), xlibs (>> 4.3.0)

Where is the first xlibs dependency comming from ? I suppose it causes
no problem, since it is less strong than the first one, but it is not
tidy.

I have a shlibs.local for libRandR, but it changes nothing to have it or
not.

Anyway, i am uploading it to experimental now.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: DRI performance on my Radeon 7500 with 4.3.0 pre1v1

2003-08-12 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 00:59, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
> Hi,
> the update from 4.2.1-6 towards 4.3.0-pre1v1 was pretty smooth,
> everything works as expected. I never really used 3D with my
> Radeon 7500 QW (64 MB SDRAM) before, but I thought I'd give it
> a try with 4.3.0. With the included drm-src package recompiled
> for 2.4.21-bk30 (comparable to -rc1) and 2.6.0-test3 I get only
> 330 to 440 fps (agp4, enablepageflip) in glxgears (normal size
> on a 1024x768 screen on a Athlon 1700+), 

I hope you mean the size the window comes up in by 'normal size' ?

> while someone on #dri told me that he had 1300-2500 on a Radeon 
> 7500 a year ago.

Your numbers are low indeed.

Does setting the RADEON_NO_USLEEPS and/or RADEON_NO_IRQS environment
variable(s) make a difference? (See
http://dri.sourceforge.net/doc/dri_driver_features.phtml for a list of
other environment variable to tweak driver behaviour)


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Re: question about patch 003a

2003-08-12 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 06:35:29AM -0500, Warren Turkal wrote:
> Can I get a clue as to how to detect an error when I disable the patch?

Sure.  The /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources file will look all wrong.  I.e. have
less stuff in it than it does otherwise.

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XFree86 4.3 memory leak?

2003-08-12 Thread Jeremy Nickurak
I was waiting for official prereleases to ask about this (again), but
now that pre1 is out, somebody else out there has to be having the same
problem as me and this can be caught before it hits sid:

I recently upgraded from X 4.2 to X 4.3, and have noticed staggering
memory problems. In a few hours of use, X will jump up to over 200 megs
of memory before other processes start getting killed.

I've gone back and forth between 4.2 and 4.3 a few times, and that's
definately the pivot point in all my results.

Matrox mil. G400DH 32Mb, Debian Sid.

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Matrox PowerDesk configured."
Screen "Display 1" RightOf "Display 2"
Screen "Display 2" 0 0
InputDevice"Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice"Configured Mouse"
EndSection

Section "Files"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic/"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID/"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load  "GLcore"
Load  "bitmap"
Load  "dbe"
Load  "ddc"
Load  "extmod"
Load  "freetype"
Load  "glx"
Load  "int10"
Load  "record"
Load  "speedo"
Load  "type1"
Load  "vbe"
Load  "dri"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Generic Keyboard"
Driver  "keyboard"
Option  "CoreKeyboard"
Option  "XkbRules" "xfree86"
Option  "XkbModel" "aronkb"
Option  "XkbLayout" "dvorak"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Configured Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "CorePointer"
Option  "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
Option  "ZAxisMapping" "5 6"
Option  "Buttons" "6"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Display 1"
HorizSync30.0 - 85.0
VertRefresh  50.0 - 130.0
Option   "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Display 2"
HorizSync30.0 - 85.0
VertRefresh  50.0 - 130.0
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "MATROX CARD 1"
Driver  "mga"
VideoRam32768
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
Option "NoLogo"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "MATROX CARD 2"
Driver  "mga"
VideoRam32768
#   Option  "TV" "yes"
#   Option  "CableType" "YC_COMPOSITE"
#   Option  "TVStandard" "NTSC"
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
Screen  1
Option "NoLogo"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Display 1"
Device "MATROX CARD 1"
Monitor"Display 1"
DefaultDepth 24
Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps"
SubSection "Display"
Depth 1
Modes"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 4
Modes"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Display 2"
Device "MATROX CARD 2"
Monitor"Display 2"
DefaultDepth 24
Option "XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps"
SubSection "Display"
Depth 1
Modes"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 4
Modes"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640

Re: patch numbers

2003-08-12 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 11:10:07AM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 07:24:45AM -0500, Warren Turkal wrote:
> > The patch numbers are not being properly followed.
> > 
> > I have been submitting some patches upstream that are already fixed. They
> > should be in a category not unlike patches from upstream so that we know
> > that they can be deleted in the next version. I propose that 000 type
> > patches should also include this class of patches such that 000 patches can
> > just be deleted upon moving to a new upstream version. A patch of this type
> > is 102, the sparc pci fix. I know that we may not know immediately when
> > something like this is fixed, but when we know, it should be moved.
> > 
> > Also, I have come across patches that are not labeled 900+ that are debian
> > specific. I think that we need to promote these types of patches to the
> > 900+ series patches. A couple patches of this type are 003 and 800, debian
> > specific config patches. Please consider debian specificity when numbering
> > patches.
> 
> #003 should be merged upstream, so other people can build Debian packages; the
> only part is where we do #define DebianMaintainer YES, or such - that's the 
> only
> part we should keep as Debian-specific. Ditto #800.

If you like, i can commit in some of the stuff. Especially the stuff
like this which is mostly #ifdef protected could be a good candidate for
a commit. I will see the opinion of upstream about this, and do the
commits if it is ok, if you want that is.

> As for #102 and the like, it's likely that the patch was developed by a
> Debianite and sent to us, and we merged it and upstream later picked it up, so
> the numbering became inaccurate (sort of) *after* the fact.

Would be less if we sent more stuff upstream.

Friendly,

Sven Luther



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any chances to incorporate savage driver from S3

2003-08-12 Thread Ondřej Surý
Hello,

Since Tim Roberts stopped work on his savage driver (see below), is
there any chances that S3 driver will be incorporated into XFree86? 
(either Debian or upstream ;-)  It supports DRI (-ac kernels has it),
but is for 4.2.0 only (ie. some work would be needed to use it on 4.3.x.

It would be great to have DRI on my laptop, so I could play
Neverwinter Nights ;-)

***

   From: 
Tim Roberts
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
   Reply-To: 
Tim Roberts
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To: 
savage40
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 
[Savage40] Better
Driver Out There
   Date: 
Wed, 09 Jul 2003
11:32:34 -0700

Well, folks, it appears that my Savage driver is now a LONG ways from
the state 
of the art.  I am no longer "da man".

Unbeknownst to me, VIA/S3 have been quietly bulking up their snapshot of
the 
Savage driver.  Recently, they were persuaded to release their driver to
the 
world in source form:

  http://www.linux.org.uk/~alan/S3.zip

I have not tried to compile this yet, but based on a quick perusal of
the 
source code, it looks like it:

 * Supports all of the Savage chips
 * Supports video4linux for videoport/zoomvideo
 * Supports the Chrontel TV part on ProSavageDDR motherboards
 * Supports MPEG motion compensation acceleration (XvMC)
and (drum roll, please):
 * Supports DRI and OpenGL

They have made so many changes that it is almost impossible for me to
determine 
whether all of my recent fixes are in their code, but given the
thoroughness I 
see in other places, I suspect that they are.

So, if you have the inclination and ability to build from source, it
would be 
well worth your trouble to give this a try.  If you do build binaries
for 
either 4.2.0 or 4.3.0, let me know and I will announce it to this list.

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Re: patch numbers

2003-08-12 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 03:54, Warren Turkal wrote:
> 
> I am braving the world the the X inner sanctum. Does anyone here know 
> if the X people monitor the bugzilla dilligently, 

A number of people do, in particular Egbert, otherwise he wouldn't have
recommended this.

> or should I post a message to the x devel list upon submitting a number 
> of bug reports providing links and short descriptions.

You can still do this after a while for patches which didn't get
attention in bugzilla for some reason.

> BTW, my goal is to get as many of the debian patches merged as possible
> upstream so that they will not have to be ported when 4.4 comes out.

Great, more power to you! :)


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Bug#200699:

2003-08-12 Thread Matt Swift


Here is an idea for /etc/logrotate.d/xdm:

# Logrotate file for xdm.log

# The log file is named in /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config.  How to extract it here?
# DisplayManager.errorLogFile:  /var/log/xdm.log
#
# Better include a warning in a comment in /etc/X11/xdm/xdm-config that the log
# file name is assumed here.

# These defaults in /etc/logrotate.conf:
# weekly
# rotate 4
# create

/var/log/xdm.log {
notifempty
missingok
}




Re: XFree86 4.3 memory leak?

2003-08-12 Thread Felipe Almeida Lessa
Em Ter, 2003-08-12 às 03:33, Jeremy Nickurak escreveu:
> I was waiting for official prereleases to ask about this (again), but
> now that pre1 is out, somebody else out there has to be having the same
> problem as me and this can be caught before it hits sid:

You got it! I'm having the same problem, but I didn't notice until you
sent this message. The only difference is my version: I'm using
4.3.0-0ds4. Maybe this is a problem of a Debian patch applied during
compilation, since others distribution (RedHat and Mandrake) don't have
this problem.

Cheers,
Felipe Almeida Lessa.



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Re: XFree86 4.3 memory leak?

2003-08-12 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 18:08, Felipe Almeida Lessa wrote:
> Em Ter, 2003-08-12 às 03:33, Jeremy Nickurak escreveu:
> > I was waiting for official prereleases to ask about this (again), but
> > now that pre1 is out, somebody else out there has to be having the same
> > problem as me and this can be caught before it hits sid:
> 
> You got it! I'm having the same problem, but I didn't notice until you
> sent this message. The only difference is my version: I'm using
> 4.3.0-0ds4. Maybe this is a problem of a Debian patch applied during
> compilation, since others distribution (RedHat and Mandrake) don't have
> this problem.

Interesting thought, as it doesn't seem to happen with
xserver-xfree86-dri-trunk either, which only applies a few patches.

Keep in mind though that the X server manages resources on behalf of
clients, e.g. - check out FAQs and XFree86 bugs on the subject.


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Re: X restarts after switching from vt7 to console

2003-08-12 Thread Marcus C. Gottwald

Hi!

Thomas E. Vaughan wrote (Thu 2003-Aug-07 06:52:34 -0600):

> > When switching from X-Window to Console (Ctrl-Alt-F2)
> > X-Server makes an automatic restart after a short time (5
> > to 20 seconds) and the kdm login screen appears again on
> > vt7.
> 
> That happens to me with debian sid.  I have an i810 graphics
> subsystem.  This has happened for months.

Looks like bugs.xfree86.org #103. I compiled the patch from
Egbert Eich with Daniel Stones' current (4.3.0-0ds4) sources,
which solved the problem. Daniel has promised to include the
patch in 4.3.0-0pre1v1.


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Re: XFree86 4.3 memory leak?

2003-08-12 Thread Jeremy Nickurak
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 10:08, Felipe Almeida Lessa wrote:
> You got it! I'm having the same problem, but I didn't notice until you
> sent this message. The only difference is my version: I'm using
> 4.3.0-0ds4. Maybe this is a problem of a Debian patch applied during
> compilation, since others distribution (RedHat and Mandrake) don't have
> this problem.

I did have the same problem with 4.3.0-0ds4.
Is there a straightforward way to try a patch-free build? I do have a
tree here that's ready and able to compile the pre1v1 release...

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Bug#205129: XFree86 and ATI Radeon 7500. (2)

2003-08-12 Thread Goldfinger
Package: XFree86
Version 4.1.0.1


I use graphics card ATI RADEON 7500 built by ATI.
After installation Debian 3.0 r1 and windowmaker I wrote in text mode
"startx" and mistake appeared, (Fatal server error: no screens found)
which content is in enclosure.
I ask about help.

Configuration:
Iiyama HM 704 UTC
MSI KT3 Ultra Aru
AMI® BIOS ver. 5.7
AMD Duron 1300 Morgan
DDR 512 Nanya

Michael
Best Regards
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Re: X restarts after switching from vt7 to console

2003-08-12 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 10:03:47PM +0200, Marcus C. Gottwald wrote:
> Thomas E. Vaughan wrote (Thu 2003-Aug-07 06:52:34 -0600):
> 
> > > When switching from X-Window to Console (Ctrl-Alt-F2)
> > > X-Server makes an automatic restart after a short time (5
> > > to 20 seconds) and the kdm login screen appears again on
> > > vt7.
> > 
> > That happens to me with debian sid.  I have an i810 graphics
> > subsystem.  This has happened for months.
> 
> Looks like bugs.xfree86.org #103. I compiled the patch from
> Egbert Eich with Daniel Stones' current (4.3.0-0ds4) sources,
> which solved the problem. Daniel has promised to include the
> patch in 4.3.0-0pre1v1.

It's already included:
deb http://debian.mirror/debian/ ../project/experimental/ main

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Bug#178242: 4.2.1-9 works

2003-08-12 Thread Norbert Veber
It works for me too.

Thanks,

Norbert