update of misc/section

2019-07-20 Thread Baptiste Jammet
Hi,

While updating french translation,
I think there was a mistake in the commit
7395d1c22210 for the file
english/international/Swedish/index.wml

All the paragraph has been removed, instead of only the end of the
sentence "beside the 

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Re: update of misc/section

2019-07-20 Thread Andreas Ronnquist
On Sat, 20 Jul 2019 11:44:44 +0200,
Baptiste Jammet wrote:

>Hi,
>
>While updating french translation,
>I think there was a mistake in the commit
>7395d1c22210 for the file
>english/international/Swedish/index.wml
>
>All the paragraph has been removed, instead of only the end of the
>sentence "beside the The relaterade.wml page still exist in swedish.
>
>Baptiste (not -www subscribed)

Thanks -

I have re-added the text describing "Related resources", which links
the Swedish-specific related resources, but not the link to "general
links", which is to a page in the misc/ folder.

-- Andreas Rönnquist
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andr...@ronnquist.net


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Processed: cloning 613543, reopening -1, reassign -1 to release.debian.org

2019-07-20 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:

> clone 613543 -1
Bug #613543 {Done: David Prévot } [www.debian.org] 
www.debian.org: the debian.org favicon has broken transparency.
Bug 613543 cloned as bug 932572
> reopen -1
Bug #932572 {Done: David Prévot } [www.debian.org] 
www.debian.org: the debian.org favicon has broken transparency.
Bug reopened
Ignoring request to alter fixed versions of bug #932572 to the same values 
previously set
> # https://lists.debian.org/debian-services-admin/2019/07/msg0.html
> reassign -1 release.debian.org
Bug #932572 [www.debian.org] www.debian.org: the debian.org favicon has broken 
transparency.
Bug reassigned from package 'www.debian.org' to 'release.debian.org'.
Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug #932572 to the same values 
previously set
Ignoring request to alter fixed versions of bug #932572 to the same values 
previously set
> thanks
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notes from the web team meeting at Debconf

2019-07-20 Thread Thomas Lange
We had a small web team meeting today in Curitiba at DebConf.
Attendees: Steve, Carsten, Valession, Thomas

We talked about the new homepage.

- We will disable auto sliding of the photos, user must click to see next/other 
photos
- The black/white icons are great, we may want to adjust the thickness
  of two icons (more and user support)


News section
- calendar sheets, valessio/thomas think it's to big,
  Proposal from Steve: remove day of week and year
  optional: maybe use numbers instead of words
- idea: try to create a news entry at least every two weeks

Why Debian section
- Move "Why Debian" to the right half, between "User support" and More
  and link it to intro/why_debian === DONE
- on intro/Why_debian put some highlight items (I have 5 items) on the top of 
the page
  target different groups in "Why Debian"
  - business user
  - home users
  - developers
  - special use cases (blends? e.g. point to Debian edu)
  why_debian is a text from 1998. Maybe I just rewrite it.

- remove Debian from top bar text "Debian Blog" "Debian Micronews"  "Planet 
Debian" === DONE


For mobiles or other narrow devices Valessio can make a drop down like menu on 
the top left for kalles design.

- new /community page, put a picture on this page, maybe the DPL with a welcome 
message
- new /software page, add picture (swirl or desktop), remove CD vendors, 
pre-installed computer

Timeline
- implement the changes (homepage and the two "more" pages)
- Set a date and give the translators some time (2-3 weeks) to prepare their 
versions
- write announcement
- merge new-homepage branch into master


Changing photo shown on the new homepage:
We will remove the auto sliding feature. People can still click on one
of the bubble below to see another photo.
We like to change the primary photo shown after some time (once a week?).
Idea: we have several photos available. The wml links to image1, which
is a symlink to a particular photo. We change the symlink without
changing the wml file, so the users do not always see the same
photo. Can this be implemented in one of the cron jobs (lessoften,..)?
Other ideas?


==
We also looked at the current version of the new download page
Here, a lot more work has to be done. This is independent from the new
homepage.

- explain which image the user should choose
   we need some short text, so the user can select his/her ISO
- Explain what's the difference between the several images
- We had a look at https://trisquel.info download
  this is an easy way to choose
- have also looked at the Ubuntu download (desktop,server,cloud)
- in Debian we have (net installer, live image with calamares, cloud)
- free/non-free variants (e.g. if you have a notebook, you may need the 
non-free version)
- What information can be put into a hover box or when clicking on "show
  more info"?

download: s/Use your Debian installation/Start your Debian installation/


P.S.: There will also be a web BoF and a web work session during the next days.

-- 
regards Thomas



Re: wiki.debian.org repository contents

2019-07-20 Thread Azure Zanculmarktum
> Why do you need this?

I'm trying to have the offline version of the wiki. That's all.



Re: notes from the web team meeting at Debconf

2019-07-20 Thread Laura Arjona Reina
Hi
Thanks for the work and this message!

I have updated my local copy of the repo/branch and built it, you can
see the current status in https://debian-newhomepage.larjona.net/

El 20/7/19 a las 22:46, Thomas Lange escribió:
> We had a small web team meeting today in Curitiba at DebConf.
> Attendees: Steve, Carsten, Valession, Thomas
> 
> We talked about the new homepage.
> 
> - We will disable auto sliding of the photos, user must click to see 
> next/other photos
> - The black/white icons are great, we may want to adjust the thickness
>   of two icons (more and user support)
> 
> 
> News section
> - calendar sheets, valessio/thomas think it's to big,
>   Proposal from Steve: remove day of week and year
>   optional: maybe use numbers instead of words

I feel that the calendar "image" is more for future events, not (past) news?
I agree that it's too big. +1 to remove the day of the week. Year I
think we should keep it.

> - idea: try to create a news entry at least every two weeks
> 

This should be "easy", if there is nothing new in the proper website,
the news can be chosen from the published micronews.

> Why Debian section
> - Move "Why Debian" to the right half, between "User support" and More
>   and link it to intro/why_debian === DONE
> - on intro/Why_debian put some highlight items (I have 5 items) on the top of 
> the page
>   target different groups in "Why Debian"
>   - business user
>   - home users
>   - developers
>   - special use cases (blends? e.g. point to Debian edu)
>   why_debian is a text from 1998. Maybe I just rewrite it.
> 
> - remove Debian from top bar text "Debian Blog" "Debian Micronews"  "Planet 
> Debian" === DONE
> 
> 
> For mobiles or other narrow devices Valessio can make a drop down like menu 
> on the top left for kalles design.

I've seen several issues when displaying the new homepage in a phone but
I guess I'll wait for the design to settle a bit more.

> 
> - new /community page, put a picture on this page, maybe the DPL with a 
> welcome message

We have an open bug about this: #924942
I would prefer to repeat a group photo, but I have no strong opinion on
this.

> - new /software page, add picture (swirl or desktop), remove CD vendors, 
> pre-installed computer
> 

I feel that those (CD vendors, preinstalled devices vendors) belong to
the /community section, together with /users, /partners,
/mirror/sponsors, etc

> Timeline
> - implement the changes (homepage and the two "more" pages)
> - Set a date and give the translators some time (2-3 weeks) to prepare their 
> versions
> - write announcement
> - merge new-homepage branch into master
> 
> 
> Changing photo shown on the new homepage:
> We will remove the auto sliding feature. People can still click on one
> of the bubble below to see another photo.
> We like to change the primary photo shown after some time (once a week?).
> Idea: we have several photos available. The wml links to image1, which
> is a symlink to a particular photo. We change the symlink without
> changing the wml file, so the users do not always see the same
> photo. Can this be implemented in one of the cron jobs (lessoften,..)?
> Other ideas?
> 

I don't know which is the better way to do this. If we change the name
of the file linked/displayed, it won't be issues with the browser cache.
Otherwise, we need to take into account possible browser caches
displaying the "old" image.

> 
> ==
> We also looked at the current version of the new download page
> Here, a lot more work has to be done. This is independent from the new
> homepage.
> 
> - explain which image the user should choose
>we need some short text, so the user can select his/her ISO
> - Explain what's the difference between the several images
> - We had a look at https://trisquel.info download
>   this is an easy way to choose
> - have also looked at the Ubuntu download (desktop,server,cloud)
> - in Debian we have (net installer, live image with calamares, cloud)
> - free/non-free variants (e.g. if you have a notebook, you may need the 
> non-free version)
> - What information can be put into a hover box or when clicking on "show
>   more info"?
> 
> download: s/Use your Debian installation/Start your Debian installation/
> 

I see no recent changes in the corresponding branch, so I didn't rebuild
my local copy yet. If there are changes, I will rebuild and you can see
them in https://debian-newdownload.larjona.net/download/

> 
> P.S.: There will also be a web BoF and a web work session during the next 
> days.
> 

Great! I'll look at the schedule and hopefully the remote attending
people can contribute somehow.

Good work!
Cheers
-- 
Laura Arjona Reina
https://wiki.debian.org/LauraArjona



Re: wiki.debian.org repository contents

2019-07-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 6:07 AM Azure Zanculmarktum wrote:

> I'm trying to have the offline version of the wiki. That's all.

I see, it would have been good to mention that in your first mail.

We would like to be able to provide that. MoinMoin has a mechanism to
dump the entire wiki to HTML that we could use for an initial dump.
Unfortunately the dump process takes a lot of resources and time so it
isn't feasible to easily provide an up-to-date dump. Many years ago I
wrote a patch that would allow for an incremental dump process, which
would reduce the cost of the dump process and allow us to provide
this. Unfortunately the patch has not yet been merged into upstream
MoinMoin. In addition the patch was written for MoinMoin 1.9, which is
now kept as a stable/frozen release. Fortunately development of
MoinMoin 2.0 has recently picked up quite a bit, so porting the change
to that and submitting it for inclusion via github needs to be done.
I'll try to work on that at some point but I welcome help with this.

https://moinmo.in/
https://moinmo.in/MoinDump
https://moinmo.in/MoinMoinPatch/IncrementalDump
https://github.com/moinwiki/moin

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pabs

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Big problem

2019-07-20 Thread Teng Hui
Both are 2019, do not add a wireless drive? Notebook installation also need to 
download the U disk to add?


Re: Big problem

2019-07-20 Thread Wenbin Lv
Debian does not include non-free firmware in official installation media,
and you can download unoficial CD/DVD with non-free firmware in
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/,
as stated in the installation manual (
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04). Alternatively you
can use the full DVD image to finish installation and setup wireless
network (using .deb downloaded from a Debian mirror on another computer)
later.

On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 1:06 PM Teng Hui  wrote:

> Both are 2019, do not add a wireless drive? Notebook installation also
> need to download the U disk to add?
>